Precisely

So one group I'd kind of like to reference to is the shinsengumi who I feel with some work could end up being a caldari 'elite' type group that would work well.

Would require some name tweaking though.

I like it, and I'd have to agree that with a bit of tweaking it'd make a fitting analogue for the elite special operations force that the Caldari have been missing. Reading up on them it seems like they're really exemplify the idea of a number of specialists from different corperate backgrounds coming together to form an elite team to be used in support of the State in any way they can. I still think we should pair it with a more modern title though to make something like the Roushi / Shinsengumi Pathfinders.

Alternatively, if we wanted to get crazy, we could take a tab from Finland and make the Roushi Erikoisj+ñ+ñk+ñrikomppania (Roushi Special Jaeger Company, the RSJC). In native Caldari, that would make it the REJK. (Pronounced "The Rejects".) It's funny because before Caldari Prime there was a stigma among the Caldari that soldiers working for private companies like The Watch were only there because they couldn't hack it in the Expeditionary Marines. It's also a cool acronym, similar to modern agencies like JSOC and MAC V SOG. I know, I don't expect anyone to actually like this idea but... I think it's pretty cool.

Alternatively, for the Minimatar (which are normally outside of my area of expertice) I'd recommend the Ulfhednar.

We already have the Valkeniers, who are the Republic's big bad reformed prisoner soldiers, but New Eden lacks a more stealthy and cunning option in the Matari repertoire. In ancient nordic traditions while berserkers traditionally embodied the spirit of The Bear and charged headlong into the enemy front lines, ulfhednars were soldiers who strive to channel the soul of the wolf into how they fought on the battlefield. They would dye their skin black, don a wolf pelt, and band together in packs to take down opponents through skirmish hit-and-run tactics. Ultimately ulfhednar raiding parties were so successful that Europeans who fell victim deduced that they had superhuman abilities, which supposidly inspired some of the first tales of werewolves.

While wolves are only a legend in New Eden, the idea of a group of Minmatar soldiers throwing on animal furs over modern chest rigs and placing themselves behind enemy lines to disrupt logistics and free slaves just seems fitting.

Phoenix's are caldari in eve (its their dreadnought).

Amarr (Templar) Ascendants
(Leave the Templar bit out, so that it gets that alliterative sound to it.)

(Fluff text:) The order of the few who have risen (ascended if you will) above their inherent capabilities and proven themselves worthy, through loyalty and zeal, of recognition as true Templars.


(Reason behind fluff: Since the first batch of Templars went sour, the Amarr decided that future Templars would be a honorary designation only afforded to the most loyal... or something like that)

Being immortal isnt as prestigious as you think within the Amarr Empire.

Huh... What are you on about?

Many Amarr believe the process of cloning fundamentally corrupts the soul. This is why most Heir and the Empress do not clone even though they are able to become capsuleers. That law however only applies to nobility and not the normal rank and file of the Empire though in circles Immortal Clones like us are openly reviled.

However in this case I'm not sure Sacred Flesh is relevant to us.

Thank you for the explanation, but I still can't make out if you guys think that calling the afw rank10 Amarr (Templar) Ascendants is a good or bad thing.

Since mercs from all kinds of places can get to afw rank10 the bit about rising above was directed at non-amarr mercs.

And the Amarr Templars is supposed to be about dust clones, no?

I'm not really convinced randomly introducing a faction such as the 'Empress Guard' is a good idea. Frankly I think it's a terrible one since Dusters and Capsuleers like us are in no way officially attached to the military groups of our respective entities and giving a group of players a direct line to any factional leadership..... however with the threat of being labelled 'anti-fun' hanging over my head should I dare speak out against the whims of others I've little choice but to capitulate.

Read the descriptions of the pub corps you fight for. That stuff is moderately in place just not used. All their ceos and the stories that CCP could make, non existent too.

But the Amarr Templars is a mercenary company isn't it? That sounds fairly far removed from any 'Empress Guard' to me. Not labelling you in any way, so go on speak freely. Besides I am more attached to calling the mercs who get afw rank10 Ascendants bit than anything else, if Templars doesn't fit in there then Templars doesn't fit in there but maybe something else will?

My point. Why recreate the wheel when the wheel is already there.

Read the descriptions of the pub corps you fight for. That stuff is moderately in place just not used. All their ceos and the stories that CCP could make, non existent too.

What about the Amarr Kameiras?
According to the eve lore they are an elite unit mostly composed of soldiers of conquered races rased from young age to serve the empire but have Amarrian (hope is spelled correctly) officers

What about the Amarr Kameiras?
According to the eve lore they are an elite unit mostly composed of soldiers of conquered races rased from young age to serve the empire but have Amarrian (hope is spelled correctly) officers

Kameira is not a rank that you can earn it is what you are. As I mentioned they are the products of the H.E.P Human Experimentation drawn from the the best stocks of carefully bred slaves and raised specifically in traditional Amarrian forms to become a unique breed of soldier.

You cannot become one unless you are born and raised as one.

That's why I mentioned the officers, aren't they considered part of the unit? Correct me if I'm wrong
I also always liked the name "Shining Flame" maybe something inspired to that?

I would agree, but the problem is that Berserkers come from the words "Ber" and "serkr", which means "Bearshirt" for the pelts worn specifically by berserkers. That having been said eventually the meaning of the word was lost entirely to other cultures and 'berserkers' became a blanket term for Norse animal warriors. Wolf Berserker would then translate to "Wolf Bear Shirt."

I suppose we could settle with just plain Berserkers, but that would have entirely different implications.