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Aeon Amadi
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Posted - 2015.07.28 20:44:00 -
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A few suggestions on suggesting terminology:
1) It should be short and sweet so that it looks nice on the kill feed.
2) It shouldn't be too generic, as these are terms for the Elite.
3) It shouldn't be too specific.
4) It shouldn't be copying something pre-existing, like a Ship Name or a Lore Entity.
5) The factional cultures are more than the mythologies they draw names from.
Also, fixed the Trello to be public. Thanks KAGE.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2015.07.28 20:50:00 -
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Updated my suggestion post (here)
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Jaysyn Larrisen
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Posted - 2015.07.28 21:08:00 -
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CCP Rattati wrote:What would be the toughest types of mercs/soldiers that earn their way to being the absolute highest ranks within each Faction
Let's say the Empress's Bodyguards, or the Navy Seals of Gallente, etc.
What could be a cool name for these types of elite soldiers per Faction. Feel free to inspire me
Amarr: Echelon, Templars, Chosen,
I'm of course a huge fan of the W40k mythos and always loved the concept of power curve
human>human soldier>human hero without enhancement> space marine > space marine hero > primarch > custodian (elite bodyguard) > emperor
Very nice thread starter and major kudos for the WH40K reference. 
Just a couple thoughts on this:
1) The Amarr seems in the best shape in terms of ranks and titles. No lack of Paladin, Crusader, Templar, Seraph, Cyber Knight, Empresses Hand, etc that you can dip into.
2) The Minmatar have some pretty good options on the table by dipping into animal (Ghost Wolves), forces of nature (Dust Devils), weapons (Shield Chief, Dagger Captain, etc), or specific tribal pieces (Thukker Long Hunter, Brutor Khan). You could mix in a bit of Viking-esqe titles such as "Jarl" but i recommend keeping it a little bit less culturally specific (more on this in a sec).
3) The Gallante start getting a little thin once you get past the Black Eagles if you are going pure lore. I think you may want to branch out with some other titles that hit the vibe of the Gallante that evoke the glam democratic facade they have. How about something like Icon, Warbird, Patriot, or Liberator.
4) Finally the Caldari - I think arguably the most difficult since folks drive to very obscure and difficult to understand Fino-Nipponese mish mashes. My opinion is that you need to keep this less culturally specific to our viewpoint and again go more for the vibe. As noted by others rarely do the Caldari ships have these type of monikers so why should we? Some examples for Caldari Mercs: Operative, Privateer, Raptor Commander, Longstrike Specialist, Veteran Contractor.
Again...this is my opinion and i'm quite keen to help out with this.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.07.28 21:20:00 -
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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:
1) The Amarr seems in the best shape in terms of ranks and titles. No lack of Paladin, Crusader, Templar, Seraph, Cyber Knight, Empresses Hand, etc that you can dip into.
I cannot substantiate anything relating to Seraph or Empresses Hand though I must admit neither sounds particularly likely to actually be a rank within the Imperial/Empire military.
Which I reiterate once more Dust 514 players are not a part of in any official capacity.
Em shah tey et naGÇÖemsaer ek rahvi, amarr osedah gasi ubday pahk. Ekin tey vahka ijed div ema ziel. Et tey vamatal em.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2015.07.28 21:24:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:
1) The Amarr seems in the best shape in terms of ranks and titles. No lack of Paladin, Crusader, Templar, Seraph, Cyber Knight, Empresses Hand, etc that you can dip into.
I cannot substantiate anything relating to Seraph or Empresses Hand though I must admit neither sounds particularly likely to actually be a rank within the Imperial/Empire military. Which I reiterate once more Dust 514 players are not a part of in any official capacity.
The Amarr could use the Sefrim (Sef singular). I get the sense they're inspired by seraphs anyway.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.07.28 21:25:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:True Adamance wrote:Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:
1) The Amarr seems in the best shape in terms of ranks and titles. No lack of Paladin, Crusader, Templar, Seraph, Cyber Knight, Empresses Hand, etc that you can dip into.
I cannot substantiate anything relating to Seraph or Empresses Hand though I must admit neither sounds particularly likely to actually be a rank within the Imperial/Empire military. Which I reiterate once more Dust 514 players are not a part of in any official capacity. The Amarr could use the Sefrim (Sef singular). I get the sense they're inspired by seraphs anyway.
That as you well know would be blasphemy.
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benandjerrys
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Posted - 2015.07.28 21:33:00 -
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicarii
For the Minmatar: Sicarii
Real life: they were Assassins Creed. Like... No joke.
Read it.
Thank you! 
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Jaysyn Larrisen
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Posted - 2015.07.28 21:41:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:
1) The Amarr seems in the best shape in terms of ranks and titles. No lack of Paladin, Crusader, Templar, Seraph, Cyber Knight, Empresses Hand, etc that you can dip into.
I cannot substantiate anything relating to Seraph or Empresses Hand though I must admit neither sounds particularly likely to actually be a rank within the Imperial/Empire military. Which I reiterate once more Dust 514 players are not a part of in any official capacity.
True, I should have clarified. I was mixing known New Eden lore and titles that were more in the spirit of things. I am often a mild lore stickler but in this case i think Dust players should have a little creative license to make this something unique to us.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2015.07.28 21:46:00 -
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The lack of good Caldari names on the trello compels me to put forward some:
State Enforcers
Corporate Protectors
Enforcement Directorate
Kajiuu-Vaaka Elite (made up the word Kajiuu-Vaaka, but could be written in the lore as the name of the corporation's founder)
Conglomerated Defense Force
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.07.28 21:56:00 -
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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:True Adamance wrote:Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:
1) The Amarr seems in the best shape in terms of ranks and titles. No lack of Paladin, Crusader, Templar, Seraph, Cyber Knight, Empresses Hand, etc that you can dip into.
I cannot substantiate anything relating to Seraph or Empresses Hand though I must admit neither sounds particularly likely to actually be a rank within the Imperial/Empire military. Which I reiterate once more Dust 514 players are not a part of in any official capacity. True, I should have clarified. I was mixing known New Eden lore and titles that were more in the spirit of things. I am often a mild lore stickler but in this case i think Dust players should have a little creative license to make this something unique to us.
And this is why I put no stock in this process. This isn't lore. It's an en masse submission of random and fanciful names supplied by the community with no context or purpose and wholly separate from EVE in its entirety.
Rather than focus on introducing and arbitrary series of titles that have no purpose and provide no insight into the universe of New Eden why not focus on actually bringing the context, story arcs, and histories of existing New Eden content into the fore of Dust. We've tried this before and no one was happy with the previous results.
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Mina Longstrike
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Posted - 2015.07.28 22:03:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:
says "Board not found."
EDIT: Also I'm glad that someone else realizes that the best way to name Minmatar things is not just throwing in a bunch of hard to pronounce Norse words, and that there are other inspirations for the names.
Hey, I realise that. I'm just inclined towards some of those things, I'm aware of their associations with weapons & weather but lacking in suggestions I feel are as good as others.
A "musketeer" is one of the styles of thing that could be conceivably be associated with the minmatar... Maybe fusileer or something. Or some other similar type stuff. Maybe 'creating' a matari style name for nova knives and referring to a scout by it would work.
I'm also not sure how to approach the 'weather" angle, maybe a reference to volcano's or something? tectonic movement?
Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:
Just a couple thoughts on this:
1) The Amarr seems in the best shape in terms of ranks and titles. No lack of Paladin, Crusader, Templar, Seraph, Cyber Knight, Empresses Hand, etc that you can dip into.
2) The Minmatar have some pretty good options on the table by dipping into animal (Ghost Wolves), forces of nature (Dust Devils), weapons (Shield Chief, Dagger Captain, etc), or specific tribal pieces (Thukker Long Hunter, Brutor Khan). You could mix in a bit of Viking-esqe titles such as "Jarl" but i recommend keeping it a little bit less culturally specific (more on this in a sec).
3) The Gallante start getting a little thin once you get past the Black Eagles if you are going pure lore. I think you may want to branch out with some other titles that hit the vibe of the Gallante that evoke the glam democratic facade they have. How about something like Icon, Warbird, Patriot, or Liberator.
4) Finally the Caldari - I think arguably the most difficult since folks drive to very obscure and difficult to understand Fino-Nipponese mish mashes. My opinion is that you need to keep this less culturally specific to our viewpoint and again go more for the vibe. As noted by others rarely do the Caldari ships have these type of monikers so why should we? Some examples for Caldari Mercs: Operative, Privateer, Raptor Commander, Longstrike Specialist, Veteran Contractor.
Again...this is my opinion and i'm quite keen to help out with this.
1) Lots of agreement here.
2) Minmatar are also quite good
3) There's a HUGE wealth of greek/roman inspired names to draw from.
4) Agreed. I am entirely willing to concede that I jump to more obscure stuff, but if you look at caldari NPC ships you'll see why ('state shurikens, state wakizashi, etc, here's a list, frig, destroyer, cruiser, battlecruiser, battleship). It might not have been entirely transparent and I apologize for that, but I was operating based on previously established information.
Now I COULD get behind "Longstrike specialist" though, because I had actually named this character after a T'au from wh40k called "longstrike" as one of his titles - he was a tank user that destroyed a whole imperial tank batallion & a titan solo, after losing his bonded family. So titles based on deed could work well.
Aeon Amadi wrote:A few suggestions on suggesting terminology:
1) It should be short and sweet so that it looks nice on the kill feed.
2) It shouldn't be too generic, as these are terms for the Elite.
3) It shouldn't be too specific.
4) It shouldn't be copying something pre-existing, like a Ship Name or a Lore Entity.
5) The factional cultures are more than the mythologies they draw names from.
Also, fixed the Trello to be public. Thanks KAGE.
Largely agreed on most points. I have a hardon for mythologies though and they work for some cultures. I don't think anything should be dismissed out of hand (which kind of makes me upset for the voting system but w/e).
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
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Posted - 2015.07.28 22:03:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:True Adamance wrote:Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:
1) The Amarr seems in the best shape in terms of ranks and titles. No lack of Paladin, Crusader, Templar, Seraph, Cyber Knight, Empresses Hand, etc that you can dip into.
I cannot substantiate anything relating to Seraph or Empresses Hand though I must admit neither sounds particularly likely to actually be a rank within the Imperial/Empire military. Which I reiterate once more Dust 514 players are not a part of in any official capacity. True, I should have clarified. I was mixing known New Eden lore and titles that were more in the spirit of things. I am often a mild lore stickler but in this case i think Dust players should have a little creative license to make this something unique to us. And this is why I put no stock in this process. This isn't lore. It's an en masse submission of random and fanciful names supplied by the community with no context or purpose and wholly separate from EVE in its entirety. Rather than focus on introducing and arbitrary series of titles that have no purpose and provide no insight into the universe of New Eden why not focus on actually bringing the context, story arcs, and histories of existing New Eden content into the fore of Dust. We've tried this before and no one was happy with the previous results.
I'm willing to write lore and context if CCP is willing to make it official (which likely won't happen).
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benandjerrys
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Posted - 2015.07.28 22:04:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:True Adamance wrote:Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:
1) The Amarr seems in the best shape in terms of ranks and titles. No lack of Paladin, Crusader, Templar, Seraph, Cyber Knight, Empresses Hand, etc that you can dip into.
I cannot substantiate anything relating to Seraph or Empresses Hand though I must admit neither sounds particularly likely to actually be a rank within the Imperial/Empire military. Which I reiterate once more Dust 514 players are not a part of in any official capacity. True, I should have clarified. I was mixing known New Eden lore and titles that were more in the spirit of things. I am often a mild lore stickler but in this case i think Dust players should have a little creative license to make this something unique to us. And this is why I put no stock in this process. This isn't lore. It's an en masse submission of random and fanciful names supplied by the community with no context or purpose and wholly separate from EVE in its entirety. Rather than focus on introducing and arbitrary series of titles that have no purpose and provide no insight into the universe of New Eden why not focus on actually bringing the context, story arcs, and histories of existing New Eden content into the fore of Dust. We've tried this before and no one was happy with the previous results.
Although yes I submitted an idea I do agree way more then you know now if only our timezones agreed better brother.
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Mina Longstrike
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Posted - 2015.07.28 22:04:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:True Adamance wrote:Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:
1) The Amarr seems in the best shape in terms of ranks and titles. No lack of Paladin, Crusader, Templar, Seraph, Cyber Knight, Empresses Hand, etc that you can dip into.
I cannot substantiate anything relating to Seraph or Empresses Hand though I must admit neither sounds particularly likely to actually be a rank within the Imperial/Empire military. Which I reiterate once more Dust 514 players are not a part of in any official capacity. True, I should have clarified. I was mixing known New Eden lore and titles that were more in the spirit of things. I am often a mild lore stickler but in this case i think Dust players should have a little creative license to make this something unique to us. And this is why I put no stock in this process. This isn't lore. It's an en masse submission of random and fanciful names supplied by the community with no context or purpose and wholly separate from EVE in its entirety. Rather than focus on introducing and arbitrary series of titles that have no purpose and provide no insight into the universe of New Eden why not focus on actually bringing the context, story arcs, and histories of existing New Eden content into the fore of Dust. We've tried this before and no one was happy with the previous results.
Agreeeeeed. I'd rather avoid another flamewar because certain people have 'badwrongfun' and like 'badwrongthings'.
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
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Posted - 2015.07.28 22:09:00 -
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Caldari: Goryo Enforcers. A goryo is a type of japaese vengeful ghost, usually noble, and have died for a cause.
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Jaysyn Larrisen
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Posted - 2015.07.28 22:12:00 -
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Aeon - will you add us to the Trello or do you just want succinct lists by faction in this thread and you add them?
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Jaysyn Larrisen
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Posted - 2015.07.28 22:20:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:True Adamance wrote:Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:
1) The Amarr seems in the best shape in terms of ranks and titles. No lack of Paladin, Crusader, Templar, Seraph, Cyber Knight, Empresses Hand, etc that you can dip into.
I cannot substantiate anything relating to Seraph or Empresses Hand though I must admit neither sounds particularly likely to actually be a rank within the Imperial/Empire military. Which I reiterate once more Dust 514 players are not a part of in any official capacity. True, I should have clarified. I was mixing known New Eden lore and titles that were more in the spirit of things. I am often a mild lore stickler but in this case i think Dust players should have a little creative license to make this something unique to us. And this is why I put no stock in this process. This isn't lore. It's an en masse submission of random and fanciful names supplied by the community with no context or purpose and wholly separate from EVE in its entirety. Rather than focus on introducing and arbitrary series of titles that have no purpose and provide no insight into the universe of New Eden why not focus on actually bringing the context, story arcs, and histories of existing New Eden content into the fore of Dust. We've tried this before and no one was happy with the previous results.
Ok...if there is no canon lore to cover the Rattati's question - why not submit arbitrary names. You'll note in the OP he clearly is looking for titles of mercenaries and war band leaders that invoke certain connotations and many of the ones folks are throwing on the table (myself included) are perhaps more FW specific.
Titles are not limited to just the paper thin slices of lore that address ground forces in New Eden.
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MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2015.07.28 22:22:00 -
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^You can create lore blurbs for your own submissions Jaysyn. I think that's a somewhat reasonable way to do it.
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Jaysyn Larrisen
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Posted - 2015.07.28 22:33:00 -
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Agreed, Mina.
I have no issue with it and if a blurb need to be created I don't mind taking a shot. That said, I honestly think we collectively overthink and dissect it with too fine a scalpel every time Rattati gives us an opening on these types of things.
I think Aeon's rules on his proposed Trello are fairly practical and work well.
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Mina Longstrike
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Posted - 2015.07.28 22:44:00 -
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Jaysyn Larrisen wrote:Agreed, Mina.
I have no issue with it and if a blurb need to be created I don't mind taking a shot. That said, I honestly think we collectively overthink and dissect it with too fine a scalpel every time Rattati gives us an opening on these types of things.
I think Aeon's rules on his proposed Trello are fairly practical and work well.
For the most part, I agree. but I'm already pretty butthurt over stuff like "grenadier, scout sniper, elite" and other things being present largely because I feel like they lack impact. While I also *mostly* agree that these cultures are more than just their respective mythologies that is an excellent place to start especially if you want to learn who these groups are in terms of their linguistics and cultural inspirations, I almost feel like that suggestion is pretty dismissive and were it to be abided by we'd end up seeing some pretty bland and generic things (at least from my perspective).
I mean the amarr are more than just "OMG ROME" ****, but every time lists come up we get "PALADIN INQUISITOR PRAETORIAN" etc which barely scratches the surface and often entirely misrepresents the influences of what the amarr are. As galm succintly summed up in one of the previous threads - the amarr pulled a Charlemagne and tried to emulate roman stability by giving everything roman names, despite not having many actual roman influences to their culture.
For anyone wanting a deeper look, I'd recommend looking up the other empires NPC ship names (can be found without much work from my caldari state npc ship names links) to try and get a bit more 'accuracy' with things.
In short I don't really want to end up with caricaturized depictions of the empires (even though I somewhat fall prey to doing it myself with the caldari) because that makes me sad.
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benandjerrys
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Posted - 2015.07.28 22:45:00 -
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*puts on tinfoil*
Anyone think he is be think tanking another Tony Gonzalez project to introduce Gunjack for the MTAC names?
*removes tinfoil*
*puts on used car salesman toupee*
Read my post^ on the Sicarii and Lucifarii!
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The above post by MIna is how I feel on the matter.
I apologise to you Jaysyn.... was rather abrupt with you. Once again I'll admit it is passion for the subject matter masquerading as something else. I don't care about much in this game any more but the lore is one thing I'd hate to see iterated upon poorly.
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Operative 1174 Uuali
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Interesting. Guess this sort of thing hasn't been fleshed out all that much.
Here's a general concept the titles should correspond to:
Amarr: Catholic church (Roman and/or Eastern Orthodox). I feel "Molester" or "Mobster" should be in there somewhere.
Caldari: Business titles mixed with military titles. Chiefs, deputy chiefs, Associates etc. "Profiteers", "Enrons"?
Gallente: French military titles such a Fusiliers, Grenadiers etc; maybe "Depraved", "Entitled", "Degenerate" or "Libertine" thrown in there. Ratatouille? http://www.videobash.com/video_show/key-amp-peele-ratatouille-2967931
Minmatar: Tribal culture titles or failing that, gangland or prison titles. "Crips", "Bloods"', "East Coast/West Coast", "Hooligans", "Cretins", "Unwashed". "Homeless", "Vagrants"?
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Posted - 2015.07.28 23:25:00 -
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I'm feeling yakuza style titles for caldari.
Y'know, since we already went there.
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Chosokabe Ite
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Posted - 2015.07.29 00:19:00 -
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Amarr: The Left Hand.
Just tried to make it sound devine. Thought it would sound intimidating too.
Gallente: The (blank) Legion.
I got the Legion idea from the French Foreign Legion, and since the Federation has French roots, I thought it'd work. Couldn't come up with a full name though.
Minmatar: The Minmatar words that mean "The Enemy".
I got this idea from the Apache tribe. The name comes from the word Apachu which means "the enemy".
Caldari: The State Retainers.
This one I got from Japanese history, referencing retainers feudal lords would keep around him for protection. The idea is each megacorp would put their best immortal soldiers into one force to sever as "retainers" for them all. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2015.07.29 00:35:00 -
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Chosokabe Ite wrote:Amarr: The Left Hand.
Just tried to make it sound devine. Thought it would sound intimidating too.
Gallente: The (blank) Legion.
I got the Legion idea from the French Foreign Legion, and since the Federation has French roots, I thought it'd work. Couldn't come up with a full name though.
Minmatar: The Minmatar words that mean "The Enemy".
I got this idea from the Apache tribe. The name comes from the word Apachu which means "the enemy".
Caldari: The State Retainers.
This one I got from Japanese history, referencing retainers feudal lords would keep around him for protection. The idea is each megacorp would put their best immortal soldiers into one force to sever as "retainers" for them all.
(The) Kilm'ach as I mentioned before is actually a Minmatar word use to refer to the Demon's the Faithful Amarr fear. Not an ideal rank especially because it is attributed to a mortal Minmatar special operations unit but it's ripped right out of the Stranded Series.
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Jaysyn Larrisen
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Posted - 2015.07.29 00:56:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:The above post by MIna is how I feel on the matter.
I apologise to you Jaysyn.... was rather abrupt with you. Once again I'll admit it is passion for the subject matter masquerading as something else. I don't care about much in this game any more but the lore is one thing I'd hate to see iterated upon poorly.
No worries - I certainly appreciate the passion for the subject and no need for you and I to joust on something we both want to see done well.
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Nocturnal Soul
Primordial Threat
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Posted - 2015.07.29 01:43:00 -
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So is this a FW rank thread?
"The Wrath of God is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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Chosokabe Ite
Shields Of The State
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Posted - 2015.07.29 02:26:00 -
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Changed my ideas, I thought we were thinking up names for special forces divisions at first. |
Galm Fae
Eskola Ergonomics
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Posted - 2015.07.29 04:42:00 -
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Mina!
*Grabs Mina's face*
Look at me Mina. You and I need to work together to make the most badass Caldari special operatives for Lore support that we can imagine.
Though admittedly the idea of a specific Caldari task force for the entire state is a bit troublesome, since individual companies all have their own individual paramilitary organizations all serving individual goals.
Originally the closest thing the Caldari had were the Templis Dragonaurs, who acted as highly skilled insurgents and commandos for the Caldari Expeditionary Forces. They did everything from training to espionage, and the collapse of the Provost regime forced most of them out of office and likely left a massive power vacuum in the state for a unified inter-corporate task force to provide elite operatives.
Oddly enough, I the way I see it this Task Force would function more like a UN coalition type force where you see people drafted from the Ishukone Watch, Home Guard, and other private military companies to aid in an advisory capacity for the State Peacekeepers. After the Providence Directorate finally fell, I doubt anyone in the State would be particularly happy with a unified government trying to consolidate power into a join military agency like the Caldari Navy. It would also serve to make Caldari special operatives characteristically unique from any other potential tier one operatives in the other Empires.
That being said, the exact naming of this sort of agency would be tricky but I have a few suggestions on how to start. First is the most obvious:
Task Force ____________ <---- Insert Psuedo Finn name here
It's everything right there on the tin, an elite joint task force built out of the best operatives from different corporate entities. Alternatively:
__________ Pathfinders
Besides the connection it bares to the elite Canadian Pathfinders (who are just plain badass even if there isn't a direct connection to the Caldari) I really like the implications it has to continuing the legacy of the Caldari Expeditionary Forces before they were reformed into the State Peacekeepers. On the surface, the Pathfinders could be shock troops ready to deploy in small teams at a moments notice to secure an area of the Peacekeepers. On the other hand, this could just be a front for 'go into an area and train and arm insurgents so we have a reason to go in and keep the peace.' There are plenty of ways you could spin it depending on your opinion of the Caldari.
___________ Highlanders
Though it isn't exactly stated, I've personally always felt a deep connection existed between the Caldari history and that of the Scottish. This title would also serve as a reference to the success of Operation Highlander as a sort of tongue-in-cheek reminder never to fail in the defense of a Caldari planet ever again.
Personally I'm a fan of:
Task Force Perkele (Perkele was the Finn god of thunder, which highlights the role of shock troops to these forces.)
Task Force Ookami (The japanese world for wolf, which highlights traditional caldari wolfpack tactics.)
Suribachi Pathfinders / Suribachi Highlanders (In honor of the battle of Iwo Jima)
Simo Pathfinders (In honor of the legendary Winter War sniper nicknamed 'White Death' by the invading Red Army)
Alternatively we have the names of special forces from the nations that the Caldari were born from. These include:
The Teishin Shudan commandos of imperial Japan.
Or alternative the J+ñ+ñk+ñrirykmentti of the Utti Jaeger Regiment, but suffice to say this is a mouth full so it might be best to settle for simply 'Jaegers' which still sounds pretty badass to me.
Really any combination of these ideas would make me happy. The ethnic background of the Caldari is something really important to me, and I would be overjoyed if CCP would take these ideas into consideration when forming this living world that we all enjoy.
Kirjuun! Uakan!
Teknikiara!
Kanpai kameitsamuu!
Ra ra ra!
> --Killer of Snowfall Station--
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