Heimdallr69- was officially known by fellow Imps as Homodoll..then Rampage changed it too Heimdallrdallr, then others changed it to 69, After that it was Hentaidoll..a few months ago EMBlackout changed it to Heimpai..and recently changed by Zaria to Heimy and Heimypoo, she got everyone on that bandwagon...thanks Zari =ƒÿÜ

We should compile a history of Dust. From chromosome to present. All the major events, corps, alliances, players who made a difference.

Would be interesting to read. Maybe inspire some noobs to go out and make some of their own history.

Anyone want to start? Someone from closed beta, tell us of the opening days if Dust

You know people can not resist Zaria, Heimy.

We should compile a history of Dust. From chromosome to present. All the major events, corps, alliances, players who made a difference.

Would be interesting to read. Maybe inspire some noobs to go out and make some of their own history.

Anyone want to start? Someone from closed beta, tell us of the opening days if Dust

More details about Mordu's Trials/Codex/Chromosome that come to mind:

- RDVs that were easier to kill than tanks.
- Disco tanks (tanks would land upside down and spin around like a top killing everything in their path and awarding the enemy team with kills)
- Light poles that would insta-kill tanks on collision
- Dropships that didn't have collision damage flying around running people over
- Small Turret Installations with forward facing shields that guarded the gunner (could only be attacked from behind)
- Bunker installations (turrets would have small walls infantry could hide behind)
- Random note; I ran a Cal Assault with x4 Armor Repairers because hit detection was so bad I could rep-tank.
- Different weapon sounds
- CCP being completely indecisive with what they wanted the Assault Rifle sights to look like (went from Camera Sights, to horrible iron sights, to the iron sights we have now).
- Laser Rifles being 100% OP being able to kill players just by touching them with the laser beam
- Equipment would 'slide' down hills until they either exploded or found level terrain before activating
- Terrain itself would reach out and grab your ankles. Lot of players would get stuck and would have to suicide.
- Maps had holes (like, legitimate freaggin holes) that tanks could fall endlessly to their deaths through.
- Kindred/Solstice Scouts, Relic/Firebrand Assaults, Anasoma/Colossus Heavies, and Hazard/whatever the other one Logistics aurum cosmetics that were totally awesome.
- Skill boosters could only be activated one at a time and could not be queued, so you literally had to be on at the exact moment they expired.
- We got more SP from being in a match than playing in a match. AFKing was pretty bad.
- Bug in which Dust 514 would randomly delete itself from your hard-drive and not allow you to re-install stating 'download corrupted'
- The only things a squad leader could do was drop an orbital and make someone else a squad leader
- Vehicles would not return to assets after a match, meaning a LOT of tanks vanished into thin air.
- Players were segregated by random NPC corporations and had corporate forums with which to talk to one another. It led to a lot of alienation for some of the dumbest reasons.
- The front turret on a tank used to be off-set and on top of the chassis so that it, as well, had 360 degree fire.
- 'Experimental Sniper Rifle' that had bullet drop mechanics.... because.... Rail Guns do that at 300m.
- Contact grenades were stupidly OP with a 6.6m blast radius and could only be obtained via Aurum.
- Literally all upcoming information about the game had to come from IRC.
- Players, especially those in corporations like STB, actually made their characters with their clan tags to show loyalty because we didn't have corporation identification.
- You could do damage to the MCC using Railgun Installations.
- CCP was considering a martyrdom mechanic.
- Black Ops Tanks with built in CRU that were the single most useless vehicle at the time.
- SP Daily cap instead of weekly cap. Then, when we got a weekly cap, you would hit it and then would get next to nothing (I think it was like, 50 SP a match).
- We had an Oceanic server that was primarily used for AFKing, testing, and dicking around.

Politics:

- Triton Industries who tried to bully their way to the top annnnnd failed.
- Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz who were considered the elite of the elite until Uprising came out and then they got roflstomped into failscade by Hellstorm.
- Subdreddit and Goonfeet which was hilarious what with Cerebral Wolf Jr. basically trying to take up the Dust 514 crown for Goonswarm before getting hellfired into oblivion by none other than The Mittani himself.
- Onslaught Inc. which would up being quite literally one of the only remaining closed beta corporations today.
- Restless Spirits which no-one remembered for anything important.
- Pro Hic Immortalis which... for some reason I think turned into Molon Labe??? Dunno.
- What The French which pretty much failscaded as soon as Cazaderon rage-quit the CPM over Legion.
- The Southern Legion which was an Australian corp run by Black Jackal.

More as I start to remember it all.

Finally the height of the war is upon us. EON vs LOI. Certain rules are put into place, not to mention that EON and LOI, were never going to fight. They did. Previously everyone in HellStorm voted on everything. Not anymore. Nearing this time HellStorm picks up a woman at Kujos discretion. Some kind of relationship begins to develop between them. Kujos real life girlfriend is apparently not present anymore. In the middle of the night, Kujo, his new digital girlfriend, and five of his friends in HellStorm leave, with almost the entire corp wallet. Billions in ISK. The rest of HellStorm left to fight a gritty battle against EON, which we lost.

In the beginning. There were no corps. It was like a wild west. It was great. Really difficult to get teamed up on. I loved it. Made tons of ISK. Wish I could have that back

Why start from chromosome. Most interesting stuff happen before dust was even released.

When there was hope...


My alliance for instance at the time had multiple titans and hundreds of EVE pilots ready to live and fight in Molden Heath because we were told there was going to be a connection. And not dust mercs who played EVE. No we had EVE pilots with years of null sec experience who have been playing for 5 plus years. How silly it seems in retrospect

I was in a corp called synergy. A corporation that I had merged crime wave syndicate into. Corp matches were still a thing at the time. My squad, a group of a few guys, that I ran with every night weren't getting fielded. This made me concerned for my squad, with the upcoming PC. Which was on everyone's minds.

After some shopping around. Hellstorm was more than willing to take us in, and promises to field every one of my squad mates for every single PC. Cronos begins over taking every district in sight. We were told it had to do with shipping lanes in EVE. Cronos decides to start taking the three districts hell storm had. We were literally doing nothing, besides having our first three districts. Bosena. Their first attack was a failure, even with Jenza awoxing. Cronos decides to outsource. The PFBZ make attempts at our districts. This results in failure and the disbanding of the PFBZ. We decide to expand our territory, and are later labeled as "terrorists".

Finally the height of the war is upon us. EON vs LOI. Certain rules are put into place, not to mention that EON and LOI, were never going to fight. They did. Previously everyone in HellStorm voted on everything. Not anymore. Nearing this time HellStorm picks up a woman at Kujos discretion. Some kind of relationship begins to develop between them. Kujos real life girlfriend is apparently not present anymore. In the middle of the night, Kujo, his new digital girlfriend, and five of his friends in HellStorm leave, with almost the entire corp wallet. Billions in ISK. The rest of HellStorm left to fight a gritty battle against EON, which we lost.

Then there was fanfest 2014 and the game ended

Never was there such great alliance vs alliance espionage wars since before the release of dust(When there was hope)


http://dustmercs.blogspot.ru/2012/06/inside-entropy-virus-part-1.html
http://dustmercs.blogspot.ru/2012/07/inside-entropy-virus-part-2.html
http://dustmercs.blogspot.ru/2012/09/eon-insider-leaks-secret-transcripts.html
http://dustmercs.blogspot.ru/2012/06/is-roflsyn-confrontation-brewing.html
http://dustmercs.blogspot.ru/2012/10/a-look-inside-failing-betamax_12.html
http://dustmercs.blogspot.ru/2012/10/link-between-faux-gnn-and-eon-discovered.html


Meta game was and is still the main reason i play this game.

They don't understand that their "gun game" will mean nothing in New Eden. They talk bad about other members of the alliance, yet Protoman and all of the GC guys can run their mouth and get a target painted on our backs with powerful New Eden Alliances like GSF/Test......its all a little hypocritical if you ask me and there is definitely a lack of overall control by leadership."

Brought back some great memories, this thread. I was watching the wars, espionage, merc trading and Molden donut changes with a strong sense of awe.

Damn, Dust can't die man! It has to move to another platform and get a new spark!!

Good times, i wonder if they still think they had a chance around here sucking as bad as they did before CCP ruined our future.

Agreed.


This is exactly what separates Dust from other shooters, and the reason this under-funded F2P shooter on an outdated platform is still going into its 4th year.

This would be a great advertisement piece for Dust: Show all the rich player-made history, and offer new players a chance to create their own

Basically, my memory of it went like this:


Dust 514 explained in rudimentary detail, show the first ever cross game-play of Dust 514 / Eve Online with a successful cross platform orbital strike on the infamous Crater Lake map.


Dust 514 closed beta opens up to a select few Playstation Plus subscribers despite CCP stating that Eve Online players would get first dibs. Controversy ensues from bitter Eve players wanting to try it first and Playstation Plus subscribers who got in early break the closed beta NDA and start uploading youtube videos comparing the game to Halo.

Eve players finally get into closed beta through BS 'access codes' that were given out randomly and play on the Crater Lake map. Swarm Launchers are stupid OP due to lack of friendly fire (they were dumb-fired back then) and hit detection issues abound. Framerate was terrible (yes, worse than it is now) but the game had it's own unique charm to it. There were only a handful of servers available to play on, divided between North America and Europe, but the game was beautiful for the first playable bit of New Eden FPS experience.


Following a character wipe, Codex is released with a new weapon: Mass Driver. Scouts and Breach Assault Rifles are stupid OP because of hit detection issues. We get the Line Harvest map in place of Crater Lake, which would never be seen again. CRUs and Supply Depot models are changed and with them the hacking mechanics are changed as well. A few game reviewers start to hint at the building interest of the game, showing clips.

CCP opens(?) closed beta to anyone that'll drop $20 on a starter pack that contains an access code to get in.

Somewhere along the line we got female models despite crazy lore contradictions (infantry clones have no personality or gender, let alone specified appearances, as they're basically just faceless bases made of biomass giblets). The decision to change the power level structure (Standard/Advanced/Prototype) results in a HUGE benefit for new players as back then the higher power levels had higher HP values built into the suit as well as high PG/CPU and fitting slots.

Type-II suits are introduced to make up for the lack of variety in the suits as we only had The Original Four: The Amarr Heavy, The Caldari Assault, The Minmatar Logistics, and the Gallente Scout.

Skill Point accrual was tripled during this time period to allow players to experiment with things much faster than they would through normal gameplay. Doesn't really matter as there is a character wipe soon after as the server is moved over to Buckingham.

Communications Outpost had an issue where the game would freeze whenever you tried to run up the stairs between what is now Alpha and the supply depot outside the building. This was one of many crippling bugs.


The 'golden age' according to many vets. This is when the game had a lot of optimizations made to increase the frame-rate, Manus Peak was still a freaggin peak and not a plataeu, Light Weapon Sharpshooter was the most over-powered thing in the world (it gave a passive increase to weapon range resulting in 100m Assault Rifles), and Shield Tanking was where it was at. Nova Knives became an actual weapon as before they were used in the default melee, which then became a rifle butt.

Ashland and Skim Junction maps are introduced by Skim Junction is later removed due to -crippling hard freezes. Bugs abound but the gameplay itself was pretty solid and much beloved by the community for what it was.

Jenza Aranda and Betamax - one of the bigger corps at the time - find a bug that allows for potentially infinite Warbarge Strikes and abuse the ever living **** out of it until it gets fixed (seriously, they hit us with 13 in one go at one point). ICECREAMKING and his band of misfits find out you can make infinite WP (and subsequently warbarge strikes) by crashing a vehicle into a wall over and over again and repairing it with a rep tool and forever doom us to no longer get WP from repairing vehicles.

Suryas and Sagaris (Marauder HAVs) are stupid OP and nigh invincible and are fielded en masse by another bigger corporation (STB - a clan that came over from MAG).

Universal Voice Transmitters (the dumbest thing in the world) were a thing that you had to buy with real money in order to use voice communications. hated by the community and would later be removed.

Seraphim something or another is another big corporation and these head honchos frequently duke it out in Corporation Battles (which were a battle system in which both parties put up a 1,000,000 ISK collateral and then fought for the prize pot).


Kain Spero and the Imperfects host tournament on Intaki Prime, make mark on the lore (lost my **** over it back then because I was younger and stupider). Imperfects become infamous with a notoriety for forum trolling and generally being good at the game.
Nova Knife starts up the IRC which the developers frequently used to troll the community with hopes and dreams.
Iron Wolf Saber makes forum posts about stuff (mostly screenshots and concept art).

Good times abound, much fun was had.

No PFBHz mention? Sad face

Basically, my memory of it went like this:


Dust 514 explained in rudimentary detail, show the first ever cross game-play of Dust 514 / Eve Online with a successful cross platform orbital strike on the infamous Crater Lake map.


Dust 514 closed beta opens up to a select few Playstation Plus subscribers despite CCP stating that Eve Online players would get first dibs. Controversy ensues from bitter Eve players wanting to try it first and Playstation Plus subscribers who got in early break the closed beta NDA and start uploading youtube videos comparing the game to Halo.

Eve players finally get into closed beta through BS 'access codes' that were given out randomly and play on the Crater Lake map. Swarm Launchers are stupid OP due to lack of friendly fire (they were dumb-fired back then) and hit detection issues abound. Framerate was terrible (yes, worse than it is now) but the game had it's own unique charm to it. There were only a handful of servers available to play on, divided between North America and Europe, but the game was beautiful for the first playable bit of New Eden FPS experience.


Following a character wipe, Codex is released with a new weapon: Mass Driver. Scouts and Breach Assault Rifles are stupid OP because of hit detection issues. We get the Line Harvest map in place of Crater Lake, which would never be seen again. CRUs and Supply Depot models are changed and with them the hacking mechanics are changed as well. A few game reviewers start to hint at the building interest of the game, showing clips.

CCP opens(?) closed beta to anyone that'll drop $20 on a starter pack that contains an access code to get in.

Somewhere along the line we got female models despite crazy lore contradictions (infantry clones have no personality or gender, let alone specified appearances, as they're basically just faceless bases made of biomass giblets). The decision to change the power level structure (Standard/Advanced/Prototype) results in a HUGE benefit for new players as back then the higher power levels had higher HP values built into the suit as well as high PG/CPU and fitting slots.

Type-II suits are introduced to make up for the lack of variety in the suits as we only had The Original Four: The Amarr Heavy, The Caldari Assault, The Minmatar Logistics, and the Gallente Scout.

Skill Point accrual was tripled during this time period to allow players to experiment with things much faster than they would through normal gameplay. Doesn't really matter as there is a character wipe soon after as the server is moved over to Buckingham.

Communications Outpost had an issue where the game would freeze whenever you tried to run up the stairs between what is now Alpha and the supply depot outside the building. This was one of many crippling bugs.

I mentioned them in winning that tournament. I wish I could remember who it was against. It was the Imperfecs I think. I am not sure though.

There was QQ over an imperfect hosting the tournament, so they were disqualified from entry. They fought SyN, R*, SI, Ill Omens, Syndicate, Rogue, and i think 2 other corps.

There was QQ over an imperfect hosting the tournament, so they were disqualified from entry. They fought SyN, R*, SI, Ill Omens, Syndicate, Rogue, and i think 2 other corps.

And here i am stomping on ever corp you have been in for the past year...

Might I put in a few words on the dissolution of PFBHz?

Though a lot of people might like to think that we got ROFL-stomped, that simply was not the case as every match before the mass rage quit was still quite close on MCC, and on the clone front. The majority reason for why we lost was a misunderstanding of initial spawn in mechanics.

See, we didn't know to load in the fittings in the WB first while Hellstorm did. This lead us to load in 20+ seconds late allowing Hellstorm to take extremely hard control very early on in the matches with zero resistance.

Seeing every letter turn red while we were still only halfway across the map to our closest letter is more that just a little upsetting, but in the initial attacks on Hellstorm, we figured it as a mechanic of PC that the defenders started either closer to the letters, or they spawned in faster on the initial spawn in.

Following the 3 close games that were our failed attacks, we sat back and waited to be attacked, sure that it was just a defender mechanic that was giving them their lead. We were sure that with that mechanic on our side, it was going to be an easy win for when we had to defend.

So when we got attacked by Hellstorm, and they yet again took over the map while we were only halfway to our first letter, there were people who literally broke their controller. Some guys simply deleted dust right then and there, never to be seen again.

There is literally a thread on our private forums that came up a week later consisting mostly of facepalms titled "So... thats how they get to letters faster!!!?" when it finally came to light what was going on with our late spawn-ins, but by then, it was too late for the corp to come back.

Those losses came on top of the nasty internal strife centered around recruiting standards and weather or not we wanted to stay on Dust anyways because of how poorly CCP had handled the release of Uprising in the first place.

Uprising had already made several guys quit and had put many players more on the fence for staying loyal to the game for what was done to the aiming mechanics. If I might quote indy strizer on the first game played on its release,

"What the hell man, it's like my clone just duct taped his gun to his **** and is trying to aim by swinging it around."

That statement for those of you who didn't play at that time is more accurate that you can possibly know.

Just a bit of clarification for y'all.

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uh, HvLP? You mean, you can beat a PC training corp trying to bring new players into MH?!

Damn, i can see why OH fields you every game.

And you can't beat NF - you tried for years and failed, so you joined OH and started making claims, lmao. Scrub :)

Shhhhhh quiet..... you don't know what you are doing by speaking back to Viktor. He's rich......like really rich.

He'll buy you.

i've spent more ISK then he's ever had xD

No........ no you haven't.

Now if I were to take what I know about EVE....... what I know about Viktor as a mercenary, and what little I know of him as an EVE pilot..... plus the fact that he is Russian [I think]......

He's so space rich he could buy and sell you in real life. Russians take this game really seriously.

I'm very curious as to what happened with DNS and what was all that about with Kane? I

Zion Shad.

L.O.T.U.S

I really have no idea when they were the majors, but I do remember being in both. Sadly it's the oldest player corporations I can remember.

I've been here the whole time, but I can not remember most of it.
Although I do remember a lot of militia fits.
If I search enough I can probably find a few names of older players if my girlfriend has not thrown them away already.

DNS, And how a Podcast ended the alliance. -

EoN has recently just fallen a part, following Imps down the path of **** You CCP. In an attempt to keep things together, Cubs formed MHPD - Moiden Heath Poice Department, with the remaining Teamplayer members and competitive EoN players, and set out to rebuild a team to keep EoN on the map.

After a bumpy road and ups and downs with Ancient Exiles - MHPD disbands to officially declare EoN no more, the members of MHPD go through a transit until Kane, Cubs, and Regynum with the help of several NF and TP leftovers, formed ERA.

ERA then launches a meta campaign to exemplify themselves as mercenaries, create relationships, and weak there enemies *Ancient Exiles*, building many friends a long the way.

Around this time FA formed with Zatara and were quickly making a name for themselves. There efforts quickly putting them as a top contender alongside NF and AE.

Soon, MH would be ripped by these three cooperations going at it. Each trying to be a mercenary group, and therefor, natural competitors and enemies. The forums would serve as the main battlefield as each of the group vied for community attention. Bartering and undercutting prices on districts and mercenaries costs, the efforts each group put down to come out on top was considerable, often overwhelming the War Room as trolling between the three groups intensified.

Eventually, FA started gaining ground on both NF and AE forces after joining MH's EvE Powerhouse - General Tso's Alliance, and were winning over the community at the same time. Threatened by this upstart cooperation, several plans were put into motion. Some would take fruit - others would stop as soon as they started.

One such plan that bore fruit was securing EvE support, a then vital resource for PC that often time decided a match. In doing so, NF tipped the scales back there way. And after several talks between Kujo and Kain - AE, with the rest of there alliance at the time, join DNS with ERA, who left NF.

With NF and AE forces coming down on FA with superior EvE support, teams, and over-all talent count. FA's end was destined. Through tough negotiations by all parties, eventually a cease-fire and deal was cut - FA would join DNS, and MH would be a Vet only zone.

Thus began the DNS reign of terror.

Most corp who didn't abuse district glitching would be removed within a week, it would be a month before OH and WTF are removed, and longer for KEQ, who had taken the glitch the next level and were un-hittable.

Before DNS could enjoy this reign - a division grew in DNS ranks, as once rivals kept to there flags inside the alliance. Trolling and fighting were common, interior affairs overwhlemed by how many people disliked each other.

Then, DNS Black, leader of the DNS alliance, went on Podcast. What wasn't known among the majority of NF, AE, and FA players, was the plan DNS Black and a select other had set upon and not properly discussed with the rest of us. So when we heard on podcast what was planned, a rebellion occurred.

***** were lost, fucks were given, and someones dog was kicked. DNS breaks in 2 - AE,DB, NS, FA, Cap vs ERA and HvLP. It looked like NF and HvLP were going to win easily, having been preparing for the rebellion for months and preparing several teams. Ultimately, it was 1 ERA team, 2 HvLP teams, and one allied team, and one 'all star' team. Vs FA who couldn't field half a team, AE who could barely do half, Cap who had numbers but not the experience yet, DDB had a decent team and NS.

However, leadership in NF ultimately didn't even want to hold onto the land, and realize by letting it go the effort of dealing with everything falls to the corps who actually owned the land. So NF took away all roles and let all there districts go without a fight.

Thus ended DNS. You'll want to ask Zatara for his side of the story, as he's got some juicy info i'm missing, and there's bits i left off for obvious reasons.

The beginning:

A couple years before the release of Chromosome several groups from the game MAG started to talk about this game that CCP was creating. They were all talking to a guy who played EVE and wanted to form an alliance of FPS groups to be prepared for this new game. Mitauchi, from EVE, reached out to Stylie, the leader of KEQ from MAG, about doing this. KEQ leadership then talked to other clans they knew from MAG and some of began our alliance. I cam to this group representing PHI (Pro Hic Immortalis).


RISE of LEGION:

Many of the representatives from these different clans made EVE accounts and started learning New Eden from the inside. We had our own TeamSpeak servers and were able to talk to our veteran EVE players and learn quickly. After a lot of growth in EVE we finally created the corps in New Eden that the old clans would move into when DUST released. We then created our alliance on 2012-01-07.
RISE of LEGION

This allowed us to have a logo set by the time the game came out and be fully prepared as the first DUST 514 alliance. We were ready and established to go for day one well in advance.


HiveMind:

Another set of corps had decided to do something similar. They formed an alliance that was not official, or part of New Eden. They did start to create corps in New Eden though. Their leader went by the name HiveMind. The main corp in their alliance was STB. They were the only rivals we could see for us at the time that were trying to organise in new Eden ahead of time. We of course implanted some spies, as this is New Eden, and learned that their leader had already decided we were enemies and wanted to destroy ROFL.

After learning this we decided to welcome them to New Eden officially. We made some fleets and found their locations and started to pick off their pilots. They acted as if te attacks were unprovoked, and showed that the new DUST community should see ROFL as a bad group. They tried to cry to the media that was starting out at the time, the GNN. They then paid a mercenary group to try to fight us for them in EVE. We went back to our homes in Null Sec, and awaited the fights, but the mercenaries had just taken their money and never tried to fight us.


DUST 514 Tournament:

During the Chromosome beta testing there was a tournament that was put on. EVEbet.com was taking ISK for bets. It was actually a very well organised tournament that allowed for orbital strikes. Kane Spero was involved and did a great job with the event. As I had worked with the PFBHz before in MAg I knew their skill. I put a lot of ISK on that tournament. I bet on many matches having known the corps form the past.

During the last match the PFBHz were in for a good fight, and we wanted to put down strikes from above and show that we were more than just our ground troops. With only a fleet of 40-50 ships the ROFL fleet was able to put down strikes while fighting a fleet of 150 from our competitors who only brought ships to fight us instead of provide strikes of their own. It is only because of the skill of our Fleet Commander Mitauchi that we minimized losses while putting down strikes, and taking out more ISK worth of their ships than we lost. When our scots noticed a fleet of 250 Goons closing in on the battle our fleets finally left to let our competitors be wiped out by the Goonswarm fleet.

The PFBHz took the win on the ground of course. It was a good fight on the ground from what I have heard.

PFBHz vs STB Tournament Finale
^ Great moment in DUST history.


Pro Hic Immortalis and the Uprising:

I had a great time fighting with PHI. I thought I should include a highlight real of my time with PHI in DUST 514.

First District Taken by PHI

PHI vs Nyain San

PHI vs BurgezzE.T.F.

PHI vs PRO/BHD


ROFL Today:

The oldest and longest alliance in DUST 514, ROFL still is around today. Although much different from its original form, the culture that ROFL created has allowed to to continue on.
ROFL

Anyone else here old enough to remember the beta and such? Anyone that was in STB who had a story from the other point of view?

I remember NumberZ tried making two or three different alliances before they finally had EoN. Anyone from that group back then remember really early stories?


I remember that NumberZ had asked PHI to join an alliance he was creating for DUST 514 before we joined with KEQ in getting old MAG groups to create ROFL.

He only asked us to join to tell us we had to try out and then say no. He was still mad from back when he was part of PHI and we refused to listen to his way of doing things. He left and made his own group with a few PHI who wanted to listen to him.

I guess that was part of the ancient history since it lead to drama during the formation of the DUST community.

A couple of corrections,

As a matter of fact, the "bug" that allowed for infinite orbitals wasn't actually a bug. Its because I was playing with the zitro brothers at the time, arguably dust's best tag team in history, while the initial orbital setting was set ridiculously low. Mix that with carefully timed orders which where still largely unknown at the time for effecting WP gain, we could string OB after OB after OB. much fun! The worst but we found was the aptly named betamax circle jerk.

This was waaaaay back when dust was a lobby shooter. We would all enter a game with no one in it and then call down tanks. We would then make a circle alternating between teams. We would then shoot the enemy player across from the circle and the repair (there was a vehicle remote repair module back then)the one to the left. The result was that because this was when WP was very linked to sp gain, we where getting over 1 million sp per game!

Also the IRC was created during the first playable version of dust. It was secured so that only NDA'd peeps could enter.

I mentioned them in winning that tournament. I wish I could remember who it was against. It was the Imperfecs I think. I am not sure though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajwUACU7nY4

I don't think there's been mention of my favorite moment in PFBHz history. I remembered imperfects as 3C from MAG and knew that they had a good amount of top tier players and got fairly familiarized with them from running into them in pubs. I remember being asked to get online for a match vs the imperfects and when I saw our team composition I was delighted. Then it was a question of who we were up against so when I got in waiting to deploy and saw their team I immediately knew it was going to be a good fight!

I've always been excited to play against protoman, back in MAG as well. When I first started playing Dust in the closed beta (joined way late though lol) he wrecked me pretty good and gave him some GG messages or w/e, hard to remember. I hadn't played against Reg but knew people talked about him being really good. Zitro and Noc were known for being tankers, and I knew HowDidThatTaste was an experienced heavy. Unfortunately Cyn and Sleepy Zan I didn't know much of but I knew Zan was a sniper and generally snipers don't worry me because you can usually avoid being sniped while holding objectives just fine.

I don't game as much as I used to because it seems harder for me to get excited over it, and there's been so few games that feel like they're worth spending the time into getting good at. This match was so exciting to me because the best feeling when playing FPS is when you KNOW your squad is good and you all have good chemistry together, working together as a cohesive unit. That's a great feeling that I have nostalgia for. But even then you need a good opposing team so it isn't a steam roll, so when I saw their team composition I knew it was going to be fun.

As for the details from the match as I recall.. Holding B was very difficult for the majority of the match, they seemed to have a tank on both sides of it and it's fairly open, so the splash damage was real. We ran into a lot of protoman, reg, howdidthattaste and omni zitro. Inhuman had found a great spot from up above to protect C I believe it was with a lazor which turned out to be pretty key to the victory. Once our anti-tank guys cleared out the tanks that were wrecking havoc at B it felt MUCH easier and that pretty much wrapped up the end of the battle with it being pretty close.

Usually when there's battles involving pretty big egos, there's trash talking afterwards. I was surprised to see a thread between us was made on the forums where everyone chimed in their GGs and talked about it, showing some sportsmanship. It would be a deep dig to find that thread though.

Might I put in a few words on the dissolution of PFBHz?

Though a lot of people might like to think that we got ROFL-stomped, that simply was not the case as every match before the mass rage quit was still quite close on both MCC and on the clone front. The majority reason for why we lost was a misunderstanding of initial spawn in mechanics.

See, we didn't know to load in the fittings in the WB first while Hellstorm did. This lead us to load in 20+ seconds late allowing Hellstorm to take extremely hard control very early on in the matches with zero resistance.

Seeing every letter turn red while we were still only halfway across the map to our closest letter is more that just a little upsetting, but in the initial attacks on Hellstorm, we figured it as a mechanic of PC that the defenders started either closer to the letters, or they spawned in faster on the initial spawn in.

Following the 3 close games that were our failed attacks, we sat back and waited to be attacked, sure that it was just a defender mechanic that was giving them their lead. We were sure that with that mechanic on our side, it was going to be an easy win for when we had to defend.

So when we got attacked by Hellstorm, and they yet again took over the map while we were only halfway to our first letter, there were people who literally broke their controller. Some guys simply deleted dust right then and there, never to be seen again.

There is literally a thread on our private forums that came up a week later consisting mostly of facepalms titled "So... thats how they get to letters faster!!!?" when it finally came to light what was going on with our late spawn-ins, but by then, it was too late for the corp to come back.

Those losses came on top of the nasty internal strife centered around recruiting standards and weather or not we wanted to stay on Dust anyways because of how poorly CCP had handled the release of Uprising in the first place.

Uprising had already made several guys quit and had put many players more on the fence for staying loyal to the game for what was done to the aiming mechanics. If I might quote indy strizer on the first game played on its release,

"What the hell man, it's like my clone just duct taped his gun to his **** and is trying to aim by swinging it around."

That statement for those of you who didn't play at that time is more accurate that you can possibly know.

Just a bit of clarification for y'all.

A couple of corrections,

As a matter of fact, the "bug" that allowed for infinite orbitals wasn't actually a bug.

I thought you all quit because the Tac AR got nerfed

/s

I say this often to **** off Skeletor Voltron.

Zion Shad.

L.O.T.U.S

I really have no idea when they were the majors, but I do remember being in both. Sadly it's the oldest player corporations I can remember.

I've been here the whole time, but I can not remember most of it.
Although I do remember a lot of militia fits.
If I search enough I can probably find a few names of older players if my girlfriend has not thrown them away already.

Maybe it's just me but history is less about events and more about people.

I read briefly some of these other posts...like OH rewriting history about leaving the game for destiny when in reality OH became the very thing it despised and the result was cat dog and fusion coming back to FA...and we started face rolling OH...and then OH and FA quit. Yeah OH had been getting the best of us using our own players...but when fusion and doggy came back oh got rick rolled. OH hit FA in the midst of a rebuild and called us weak...boy the Ole pot calling the kettle black there...compare that to the way we treated OH when they were rebuilding...arms wide open. That was almost as disappointing as the way Cap repaid us for supporting their pleas to remain in TSO...despite it costing us a team players going to OH and elsewhere because they didn't want to be in a blue donut with cap.

you'd get a big earful about how I didn't have the confidence to make FA, but the matches I lead and fced for Lol MHPD was the catalyst for skeletor and himiko to urge me to create a corp...and it would have been called poonswarm if Skel had his way. <3

o drama."

To continue, I question this if you say we caused Tso's to be a blue donut: why would MuLa have been let in after all of this went down? As I was informed upon my return, it was an alliance leadership vote that permitted Roman to join Tso's (my guys voted no, but were outnumbered). Tso's was scared of Pure Evil (maybe OH as well, idk if they were dead yet), and wanted to REMAIN a donut. I told you time and time again when I came back: your leadership circle disgusted me, and you were the ONLY guy I sincerely respected (maybe Kaisar or Skel too, can't remember). My actions in dissolving Tso's was essentially the death penalty for FA mass farming, Roman blue-donut strangle hold, and pleas from my men to open MH up.

Funny, I had the pleasure of watching old IMP/PFB PC videos and the Urgent Fury TP/AE fights where Zatara was fighting just a few days ago. It made me realize: coming into dust the week of Uprising, building a corp out of Uprising babies....I was a shrimp among giants. The struggle to quarry a mole hill in the shadow of mansions. A pawn front lined by bishops, knights, queens, all the while having no idea I was playing a 2D chess game with people who could see the game board from above - marionettes of men. Though I may have carved what measly mark I could in our history, it means absolutely NOTHING without the PEOPLE who entrusted me to lead them; those who bought into a philosophy, a direction, a drive and directive. The guys who stuck around when you get removed from PC entirely. The guys who x'd up no matter the opponent, grinded when isk was scarce, followed FC orders to utter and certain demise.

Zat can be the first to confirm, the ins and outs of leadership in the MH world is a saga in itself. The shady deals, pursuit of the almighty isk, blue-ing, red-ing, "gray"-ing. Those moments where one decision literally was the fate of a corporation in its entirety, whether on the district or in the diplo. In reality, for a leader like those I listed, I know one thing is for sure: everything is for the men. Every fight with my ex, the bar nights skipped, the 10+ hours of dust daily, the list goes on -- all to ensure an enjoyable and memorable experience for the guys you've come to love on your team.

I remember quite clearly the day you told me we would be red Zat, I would be removed from Tso's. At the time, OH was smashing us on the daily, and FA was no showing their own battles vs OH.

Fast forward to leadership issues between Cap and FA..this is where I really have to go with you on this. Lags and Devin wanted to farm and I can't backseat drive from Destiny..when I came back to dust the damage in my eyes was pretty well done. Water under the bridge indeed.

- I don't remember this but apparently IWS ran a smear campaign against The Black Jackal who was running to be a Dust 514 representative.

All I know is that every US player in DUST cheered when Nyain got ass raped and dissolved.

And that Legion will have trees.

Except they no showed..it just took the Corp to be dead for 6 months before anyone grew a pair to attack

Ah, that's the alliance I kept forgetting about in the CRONOS wars - the australians. Wasn't just tristan industry. They faired well, but never really made any waves in PC, so i forgot about 'em. lol

I was a member of Tritan Industries who were the first Dust corp to be robbed by an EVE player, he used a glitch (which was then patched because of this event) to transfer control of the corp to himself, kick everyone apart from an alt he used to lock the corp name and we reformed under the name The Tritan Industries.

Question about the game itself:

When were the Caldari logistics dropsuits introduced? That was around the time I started to figure out what I was doing in the game.

Playing against NS was never fun. They weren't good, the game itself was always on the fritz, and the timers were something awful.

It was less interesting than the team that ceded it's district and challenged us to a death race( I opted out, because burn the world). At least they had a sense of humor and an IDEA behind their play, instead of just a nstionality/race/creed and a desire to implement 1942 era ideological reforms.

The best players they ever developed were dia and milk... Only one of them had the right idea l. Only one of them was competative.