Except ironically the Caldari are the least ethnically diverse of all the peoples of New Eden.

I'll start with the Gallente and Caldari relationship since it's the one I know most intricately. I'll keep things in layman's terms because it can get confusing quick

Long ago before the Federation was the Federation we know today we, the Gallente people, looked to spread across the stars looking to build up our alliance of different peoples. The Caldari was amongst those people, and one of the major races in our early alliance. The other major races were the Jin Mei, Mannar and Intaki.
When the Gallente first started gaining additional "races" into their fold you somewhat didn't have a choice, while they didn't enslave you like the Amarr might have they certainly had an empire / rome hybrid like persona about it. Being swallowed in the Federation wasn't a completely bad thing like it might have been if you were swallowed by the Amarr. Normally you'd become to get more technologically advanced as your being boosted into the space age even if your race has just figured out how to get in orbit. With the good comes the bad, while Gallente tend to be respectful of all beliefs it's usually only beliefs that mesh well with their culture. This is where the Caldari and Gallente tensions begins. Cultural differences.

When the Gallente found the Caldari they weren't the most technologically advanced people, similar to how the Amarr brought the Minmatar into the "Tech" age the Gallente did the Caldari. The Caldari retention to their duty drive were a welcome addition to the federation and we benefited from each other for a while. Cloaking technology actual came out of a joint Gallente and Caldari development. As time went on and Caldari by themselves became more and more financially and technically stable they finally decided that they grew tired of the Gallente intrusive ways in their Culture which the Caldari were not ones to be assimilated like the others have. The Caldari decided to go off in secret areas of space and build their own bases there in secret without Federal approval.

Long story short, a Gallente Scout vessel found this massive secret war base and Caldari ships, ran in terror and told about what he saw.

The Gallente became infuriated, and rightfully so. Trying to talk it out without wanting to appear weak but the Caldari refused to step down from this independent development tensions became high and it became a cold war of words.

Finally there was a terrorist involved. No one knows what side he was on besides the side of the war economy. He was behind the terrorist attack that killed hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in a city which gave birth to the start of the 1st Gallente Caldari war.


Now, onto Government. While yes, personally I believe that the Gallente are New Eden's best hope of a Progressive future that doesn't mean we aren't without flaws. When it comes to why I align with the Gallente is because of the Culture. Most other cultures don't willingly accept different beliefs and get along well outside of the Caldari, who don't care who you are as long as you work hard and smart (for the most part). Our Government however is a different story, It's gotten slightly better now that the extreme right wing war mongers are out of power from the first war era but we are still extremely paranoid about it.

Think about how America reacted to things in a post 9/11 world, only much more drastic.

The Black Eagles are just another terrorist group that happens to serve a government. They have their uses, but their methods are horrid. One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist, that statement is especially true when it comes to the Minmatar but I'll leave someone else to talk about that.


The Caldari aren't perfect either but it's almost contrast to why I don't like the Federations Government but it's a bit more. If it wasn't 1 in the morning here I'd be happy to explain why I don't like the Caldari.

Mostly dealing with coldness, and radicalism that just doesn't mesh well with the Gallente ideals. I appreciate the drive they have towards work but adhere almost everything else about their culture. The olny Caldari megacorp that's good in my book is Ishukone.



I'll let True Adamance or someone else tell you about the Amarr and Minmatar. My take is, what the Amarr are doing is wrong, but damn the Minmatar are completely out of control a lot of the times

but is that due to the circumstances they've been dealt with?

Not sure, haven't looked into it. It seems like the Amarr caused their own problems when it comes to the Minmatar and how they act. But there's no good and evil in this game....unless you're talking about Blood Raiders or Sansha's Nation.


Anywho, this has been a very brief gist of the History between the Federation and the Caldari.

Seriously.......... I'd be glad to educate you. Starting with the Amarr being more of less my speciality. That being said there is something you need to understand first.

Right and wrong mean very little in New Eden. The four major factions all have glaring flaws that set them apart form their counterparts and contemporary examples of similar cultures.


For instance, and to clarify you, the Amarr are not a racist people who took advantage of a situation to institute racism 'again.' What they are is a theocratic empire composed of many trillions of believers all of whom agree that it is their divine mandate to unite the cluster as one people and that slavery is but one of many ways to achieve that unity.

The Amarr were more or less , though they don't know this, the descendants of religious colonists who passed through the EVE gate and were thrown into a social and technological dark age when the gate collapsed scattering them across the surface of a temperate desert world known as Athra.

They experiences immediate persecution for their beliefs during the earliest years of recorded history being forced from the main continental drift known as Assimia to a small isle known as Amarr Island where they split into groups led by Warlords all of whom answered to a united church. Eventually one warlord, Amarr Asakura united the factions and formed the first Empire, establishing a medieval nobility and peasant class.

United as one Empire the newly forged Amarr took to the main continent where the city states of the Udorians lay and began to wage intermittent wars with them slowly claiming more and more of the continent. The Amarr then formed an alliance with another people, the Khanid, and waged a joint conflict against the Udorians until eventually the last few resisting cities fell to the Amarr all before the modern age of automatic weapons.

What the Amarr however were to do with an entire people post war having formerly pressed Udorian sailors into service in their armies was then the logical step. Using an obscure reference from the Scriptures, the Amarrian religious text, the precedent was set that the Amarr could morally enslave the Udorians and rule over them. They did this for a time until it became well practiced that after several generations of good service slave were to be freed and made full Amarrian citizens.

This trend persisted well into the era of space flight where the Amarr eventually discovered other fragments of humanity on other far flung worlds. These people they too enslaved, easily dominating them with technological supremacy. It was here the concept of Reclaiming, a religious war of conquest became a powerful driving force in Amarr culture, with them believing that it was their divine role to gather the fragments of humankind and mold them into one people. It was also at this time the Amarr began cruelly experimenting on the captives in what was known as the Human Endurance Project.

Anyhow this persisted into the Unchallenged Era where the Amarr encountered the Minmatar, a people who had reached space flight technology and called themselves the Minmatar Empire. This was the first time the Amarr had ever truly encountered another race like the Minmatar and capitalising like you said on a planet wide storm the Amarr flooded the system, crushed the resistance, and depopulated entire worlds taking billions of Minmatar as slaves. They did this every few years crushing Matari technological developments each time.

Eventually the Amarr encountered the Gallente and the Caldari, the former who loathed the practice of slavery and conspired with a fifth known entity the Jovian Directorate to liberate the Minmatar.

Unknowingly the Amarr manoeuvred themselves into a corner declaring war on the Jovians, a vastly superior technological entity, fighting a battle at Vak' Atioth where an entire 200 ship squadron of the Imperial Navy equipped with the latest technologies fought Jovian Frigates, Cruisers, and a lone Mothership. The Amarrian fleet was annihilated to a man their ships ordered to hold their ground no matter the cost though destroying one in every three Jovian vessels.

In the wake of that defeat across the cluster billions of Matari slaves rose up against the Amarr with Jovian and Gallentean aid starting a bloody war that was known of the Great Rebellion. Millions of Amarr died. Hundred of Millions of Minmatar perished as well.

If we skip ahead to the modern age we exist in the Amarr are actually a much more mild people than they were. The role of Holders, the Amarrian nobility, was reaffirmed as a role of caring for slaves so that they could transition into Amarrian society while the Emperor of the time Heideran VIII declared that the act of 'slave taking' was to be outlawed.

Nowadays more reasonable heads prevail in the Empire and slave taking it at an all time low barring the illegal actions of slavers whom the Amarr punish fiercely. The Amarr however still fight their war against the Minmatar who are unwilling to let the past die and were recently subject to an attack by Minmatar fleets whom broke inter-empire law only to have that fleet smashed aside over Sarum Prime.

Understanding the Amarr means looking at them from their perspective. They do not and have never seen slavery as wrong, nor is it an institution solely designed to benefit from a cheap labour force. They genuinely believe that by bringing the Minmatar into the Empire they are doing them good and slowly helping them understand God.

More over they would be considered arrogant by our standards but that is due to the widely held belief that as Amarrians they are a chosen people charged with ruling the masses. However ironically life in the Empire is about as normal as one could get.

I was gonna queue some CFW, but then I had a thought.

If the Gallente were weakened, would that mean that the Minmatar would be easier to conquer?

How can I justify playing CFW if it would negatively impact the Minmatar?

The Elders (the true mind behind the minmatar) don't live in the republic. They've given up on it. They live out in nullsec among the thukker.

While almost 1/3rd of the minmatar population is still enslaved, more of the minmatar live among the nomadic thukker tribes than in the federation or republic.

What does this mean for me then? Who can I fight for?

That is entirely up to your interpretation. For me personally? I don't care much about the minmatar as I'm more interested in seeing a strong, independent and self-determining caldari people (I fall under the patriotic caldari). The liberals (largely ishukone, but a few other corps are involved) spend a lot of time courting the republic, believing that they're capable of nurturing a strong client / customer relationship in the future (they might even *gasp* become friends). The practicals are largely only concerned with the short term and are entirely willing to play arms dealer to both the amarr and the minmatar, as long as it makes them a profit.

So while the republic 'represents' the minmatar... It depends a lot on gallente aid, to the point where it's almost a sockpuppet / agent of the federation. I will give credit to Meleatu shakor (I know I spelled that wrong) for telling the federation to **** right off after karin midular (previous leader of the republic) was assassinated... by gallenteans.

The gallente are slowly annexing more and more of the republic every day.

You are a mercenary. If the republic is paying you for your services that's entirely up to you. In fact it could be better for you if you weakened the federation as you'd stand to profit more from defense contracts the matari put up.

Similarly, if the Gallente were out of the picture, do you think the Amarr would try to enslave the Caldari?

Were it feasible, the Amarr would enslave anyone who wouldn't take the knee to their faith. (Luckily for all parties--yes even the Amarr--it's not feasible.)

As for your other dilemma, I'm not comfortable speculating that much. However, if you are sympathetic to an independent Minmatar people I don't see how you can reconcile that with being a Caldari hardliner. The economic integration between the State, Khanid Kingdom, and Amarr Empire (after the economic stimulus agreement) is simply too significant at present.

It's tough to be moral in New Eden. I bet even the Sisters of EVE directly do bad things. (Indirectly they tip off the Blood Raiders for juicy targets by making mercy missions.)

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Thanks for the reply, True Adamance. I'm definitely going to check out that Chronicle you mentioned.

Minmatar can't let go of the past, therefore screw them.

Can't let go of the past? Almost a third of all Minmatar are still enslaved today. That calls for action.

Fun sidenote:
All of our jump gate technology is based off of the same principles reverse engineered from the stargates located in the Gallente/Caldari and Amarr systems.

Amarr had a fairly intact jump gate in their system, which made it relatively easy to reverse engineer the tech.
Caldari/Gallente had a fairly broken down gate, but since they were cooperating at the time, they still managed to reverse engineer the gates in a timely manner.

Minmatar were the only ones who were developing a gate technology that relied on different principles, but since the Amarr conquered them, the technology was lost.


It was apparently closer to the Acceleration Gates that are in EVE than anything we use right now, though it allowed for interstellar travel, rather than just inside the same system.

lol

that sig tho