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First Prophet Nos Nothi 3	Posted - 2015.06.16 22:10:00 - [1] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: They may have had a more advanced military, but someone else in the thread actually reposted what I read. "At one time they had a flourishing empire with a level of mechanical excellence never before or since seen anywhere." Although that statement confuses me. If it hasn't been seen anywhere since, that would mean the Amarr didn't grab any of their tech for some reason. Not even remotely what I would consider technological supremacy over the other races Scheneighnay. The Minmatar Empire [what it was supposedly called at the time] was developed to the point of space flight age however had I suppose you could say was relatively new to it or cautious only having colonised localised system. If the Minmatar did have such and advanced level of technology they did not show it either in their colonisation attempts or in the short few hours it took a few thousand Amarrians to capture billions of Minmatar. There's more to technology than just weapons. The reason for their lack of colonization wasn't because they were afraid or because they didn't have the technology for it, it's because there was little incentive for it. Matar is a natural paradise, even more so before the invasion. Not much reason to go far when you can get everything you need nearby. (The early Amarr empire nearly broke apart from over population and a stagnant economy.) The success of the Amarrian invasion is due the fact that the Minmatar had been at peace for centuries, and was unaware of any other advanced race. (The Gallente and Caldari made contact early on, and the Amarrians made contact with the Udorians early as well. The Minmatar however were alone within their region.) Thus little reason to improve weapons or build defenses. The Amarr also had waited to invade just as the largest storm on the planet happened. Now these facts shouldn't detract from the technology the Minmatar did have. The fact that the most numerous race managed to live prosperously on such little land and was capable of production of pretty advanced technology without international trade is pretty amazing. Whatever it is they were doing, it was clearly super efficient and beyond what every other race was doing. "At one time they had a flourishing empire with a level of mechanical excellence never before or since seen anywhere." I will say however, the fact that this line is never gone into any more detail is infuriating to me, because there is such ambiguity involved. One of the most important things to make note of though is that the Minmatar empire was *flourishing*. Meaning any Amarrian justification for the invasion involving uplifting the Minmatar or saving them from squalor is a total lie. "The Wrath of Rust is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
First Prophet Nos Nothi 3	Posted - 2015.06.16 23:18:00 - [2] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: The planet of Pator had many tribal wars as evedent in the Elder lore saying they had been peaceful is false when they only united as one to combat the Amarr. Pator is the system. Not the planet. The planet is Matar. "However, having known no large-scale warfare for centuries" I've not seen a date on when the tribal wars happened so I'm not sure how long they were between the invasion, but I'm fairly certain I read Matar was at peace for 600 years before the Amarrian invasion. I'll look more into finding a source for that later. "The Wrath of Rust is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
First Prophet Nos Nothi 3	Posted - 2015.06.17 02:37:00 - [3] - Quote Nocturnal Soul wrote: First Prophet wrote: Nocturnal Soul wrote: The planet of Pator had many tribal wars as evedent in the Elder lore saying they had been peaceful is false when they only united as one to combat the Amarr. Pator is the system. Not the planet. The planet is Matar. "However, having known no large-scale warfare for centuries" I've not seen a date on when the tribal wars happened so I'm not sure how long they were between the invasion, but I'm fairly certain I read Matar was at peace for 600 years before the Amarrian invasion. I'll look more into finding a source for that later. Cool let me know what you find! Under Day of Darkness "Only those on Matar itself were able to put up a fierce resistance, though thanks to centuries of peace, they had little capability to withstand the logistical and technologically superior Empire." The timeline puts the unification of the Minmatar tribes at AD 20374, while first contact between Amarr and Minmatar happens at AD 22355 nearly 2000 years apart. "The Wrath of Rust is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
First Prophet Nos Nothi 3	Posted - 2015.06.18 04:09:00 - [4] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: True Adamance wrote: Dries - _ - Get more likes to have your name spelt correctly. You spelled it correctly already though. "The Wrath of Rust is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
First Prophet Nos Nothi 3	Posted - 2015.06.18 04:18:00 - [5] - Quote True Adamance wrote: First Prophet wrote: True Adamance wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: True Adamance wrote: Dries - _ - Get more likes to have your name spelt correctly. You spelled it correctly already though. Get more likes to have me........ um..... pay attention I guess? Not interested. Learn to shi*tpost to have me care. "The Wrath of Rust is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
First Prophet Nos Nothi 3	Posted - 2015.06.18 04:33:00 - [6] - Quote True Adamance wrote: [i]Sorry, this is True Adamance's automated posting service. No automated response is efficient enough to handle my shitposting. "The Wrath of Rust is Immense. His Justice is Swift and Decisive. His Tolerance is Limited."
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