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Victus Auxellias wrote:

There is no mistrust for other cultures only hatred towards the federation predominantly thanks to events that transpired on a whole to label the entirety of the state as Xenophobic is absurd when the defense of the Intaki by the state was the highest priority and the Intaki and Caldari have been long allies with the main example being that of Mordu's Legion that fought alongside the Caldari State. The perpetrators of the Waschi Uprising were disbanded and punished and the alliance between the Intaki and the Caldari exists today. You cannot use extremist and isolated events and groups as a basis to label an entire nation as xenophobic.

The CBD Corporation is one of the biggest exporters/importers in Caldari space in which being xenophobic and mistrusting of other cultures is not practical. They are not traditional by any means in which they go against on many occasions the codes and conduct of the state and what it is to be Caldari the three you mention belong to the practical political bloc and have all three ties to organised crime and the underworld of New Eden in which they deal in unethical business tactics. But I have to make this clear once again their is no emphasis on the blood lines, ethnicity is not and never has been a relevant factor to any Caldari and the dislike to being influenced by outside forces is shared by all factions neither would be willing to capitulate nor does the State impose their way of life on the other factions they only wish to exist freely and independent. As xenophobia goes hand in hand with racism and the preservation of culture is merely the way of life that we have within the state not a racial agenda the state exists of numerous ethnicities and races and are in fact innately non xenophobic as we all identify as racially Caldari no matter of ethnicity. So the only mistrust you can refer too is that towards the federation which is justified with the ongoing conflict are their wish to undermine the state and cease its existence.


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MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.17 01:06:00 - [1] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: I have a couple questions. @Kirk - Why do the Gallente and Caldari continue to fight? From what I understand from what you wrote, the Caldari wanted independence from the Federation. Do the Gallente still not want the Caldari to be independent? @True - Did the Amarr not try to enslave the Gallente and Caldari as well? If not, what made them different from the Minmatar? And why did the Amarr start by trying to enslave the Jovians? The Caldari empire is still small, and relatively recently separated (in the grand scheme) from the gallente federation: We only broke free about 100 years ago or so... and we've had to arm up and arm up quickly. It's essentially similar to the separation of north and south korea. The gallente want to re-integrate the caldari as they believe we didn't have the right to leave or close our doors to them again (aka the only correct type of freedom and independence is the gallente brand). The Caldari more or less have a very, very deeply ingrained resentment to the gallente who would consider themselves their betters and desperately desire their autonomy and Independence. The amarr only met the gallente relatively 'recently' (something like IIRC 2000 years ago?) when their federation had already been established... and it was like two incredibly nervous and wary stray cats running across each other. The amarr approached with their frigate and tried opening communications... the gallente orbited warily and said something that sounded I guess harsh to the amarr, the amarr frigate lit a cynosural field which scared the gallente frigate (as it was something it had never seen before) into promptly warping away (something the amarr had never seen before) who promptly ran away. The amarr never tried to enslave the caldari, because they were a pragmatic ally against the gallente (who were busy shouting at the amarr that slavery is bad!) and the caldari got along extremely well with the khanid (who put in good words for them among the amarr). To explain a bit more about the cultural differences between the caldari and the gallente: The people who would become the gallente had purchased a very easily habitable planet and terraformed it well before the eve gate collapsed, their fledgling society still had it incredibly easy after the collapse - it was easy to hang onto beliefs that served everyone. The caldari had purchased a much harsher planet and hadn't terraformed it nearly as well by the collapse, only certain zones were easily habitable and even then life was incredibly hard... In order to survive you always had to put the group ahead of yourself. When the gallente made contact with the caldari it would be much like our society today making contact with a dark ages society. Even if you try your hardest, you're going to come off like an elitist jerk... and unlike some fanciful star trek federation who had made first contact thousands of times and had it down to an art, the caldari were the first culture the gallente had met other than themselves (and it had opened up a pandora's box of questions discovering the same 'race' on another planet with no recorded history linking them). In short the gallente ended up being meddlers and dragged the caldari kicking and screaming towards federation. The gallente way was to them the only right way - which was not something the caldari shared as they placed almost no value on individuality. Even from the earliest days they rubbed each other wrong, and the caldari found out the hard way democracies have some very big downsides, especially when you're a permanent minority (the caldari never had anywhere near the population of the gallente). When the gallente found the secret colonies the caldari had been working on they demanded that the caldari bring them into the federation as democracies... The caldari refused, informed the gallente that they would never accept democratic government (preferring their own meritocracies) and also informed the gallente that they were seceding. This engraged the gallente who went full powertrip and cracked down hard on the caldari, tightening the screws every way they knew how and at the height of things there was a full blockade against caldari prime. The caldari refused to be brought to heel and so freedom fighters arose in the form of the templis dragonaurs, who broke the dome on the underwater city of Nouvelle Rouvenor, killing half a million people. Even the gallente public were enraged by this terrorist attack, and an extreme right-wing government took hold (led by a figure that was probably about as hi.tler/stalin-esque and totalitarian as you could imagine), there was open war between the gallente and the caldari... and an admiral named Yakiya Tovil-Toba rose on the caldari side, his story is best summed up here. The caldari won their freedom, but their lost their homeworld... they never forgot and they never forgave. Tovil-Toba is a hero and a lot of the highest loyalty ranks in eve's fw reference him (and most reference the events preceding his death) The state lost a huge amount of its population in its bid for freedom and it had to resort to entire generations of children born in medical tubes and raised in corporate creches. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Mina Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.17 01:34:00 - [2] - Quote Victus Auxellias wrote: There is no mistrust for other cultures only hatred towards the federation predominantly thanks to events that transpired on a whole to label the entirety of the state as Xenophobic is absurd when the defense of the Intaki by the state was the highest priority and the Intaki and Caldari have been long allies with the main example being that of Mordu's Legion that fought alongside the Caldari State. The perpetrators of the Waschi Uprising were disbanded and punished and the alliance between the Intaki and the Caldari exists today. You cannot use extremist and isolated events and groups as a basis to label an entire nation as xenophobic. The CBD Corporation is one of the biggest exporters/importers in Caldari space in which being xenophobic and mistrusting of other cultures is not practical. They are not traditional by any means in which they go against on many occasions the codes and conduct of the state and what it is to be Caldari the three you mention belong to the practical political bloc and have all three ties to organised crime and the underworld of New Eden in which they deal in unethical business tactics. But I have to make this clear once again their is no emphasis on the blood lines, ethnicity is not and never has been a relevant factor to any Caldari and the dislike to being influenced by outside forces is shared by all factions neither would be willing to capitulate nor does the State impose their way of life on the other factions they only wish to exist freely and independent. As xenophobia goes hand in hand with racism and the preservation of culture is merely the way of life that we have within the state not a racial agenda the state exists of numerous ethnicities and races and are in fact innately non xenophobic as we all identify as racially Caldari no matter of ethnicity. So the only mistrust you can refer too is that towards the federation which is justified with the ongoing conflict are their wish to undermine the state and cease its existence. There is mistrust and abuse of other cultures - if you're not caldari... we don't care about you (unless you're willing to become a client-state). There is also heavy emphasis on bloodlines despite the caldari identifying as a single race, as marriage is largely corporately controlled. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.17 16:57:00 - [3] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: I was gonna queue some CFW, but then I had a thought. If the Gallente were weakened, would that mean that the Minmatar would be easier to conquer? How can I justify playing CFW if it would negatively impact the Minmatar? The Elders (the true mind behind the minmatar) don't live in the republic. They've given up on it. They live out in nullsec among the thukker. While almost 1/3rd of the minmatar population is still enslaved, more of the minmatar live among the nomadic thukker tribes than in the federation or republic. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.17 17:25:00 - [4] - Quote Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Mina Longstrike wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: I was gonna queue some CFW, but then I had a thought. If the Gallente were weakened, would that mean that the Minmatar would be easier to conquer? How can I justify playing CFW if it would negatively impact the Minmatar? The Elders (the true mind behind the minmatar) don't live in the republic. They've given up on it. They live out in nullsec among the thukker. While almost 1/3rd of the minmatar population is still enslaved, more of the minmatar live among the nomadic thukker tribes than in the federation or republic. What does this mean for me then? Who can I fight for? That is entirely up to your interpretation. For me personally? I don't care much about the minmatar as I'm more interested in seeing a strong, independent and self-determining caldari people (I fall under the patriotic caldari). The liberals (largely ishukone, but a few other corps are involved) spend a lot of time courting the republic, believing that they're capable of nurturing a strong client / customer relationship in the future (they might even gasp become friends). The practicals are largely only concerned with the short term and are entirely willing to play arms dealer to both the amarr and the minmatar, as long as it makes them a profit. So while the republic 'represents' the minmatar... It depends a lot on gallente aid, to the point where it's almost a sockpuppet / agent of the federation. I will give credit to Meleatu shakor (I know I spelled that wrong) for telling the federation to ** right off after karin midular (previous leader of the republic) was assassinated... by gallenteans. The gallente are slowly annexing more and more of the republic every day. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.** I have a few alts.
Mina Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.17 17:37:00 - [5] - Quote You are a mercenary. If the republic is paying you for your services that's entirely up to you. In fact it could be better for you if you weakened the federation as you'd stand to profit more from defense contracts the matari put up. A defining trait of the caldari is that we are incredibly driven by predatory instinct. Most of are not 'nice' people (the same is largely true of anyone with power in any race - they didn't get there by being nice). Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.22 01:51:00 - [6] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Dreis ShadowWeaver wrote: Cloak Dog wrote: Minmatar can't let go of the past, therefore screw them. Can't let go of the past? Almost a third of all Minmatar are still enslaved today. That calls for action. Does it truly call for action? A great many slaves within the Amarr Empire practice the Amarrian faith barring a very small minority. Many slaves that have been emancipated have returned to the Republic and continue their worship only to be victimised by the people who claimed to be their kinsmen. Additionally worth consideration is that the Empire has moved into a social phase where slavery is illegal, calls for Reclaimation are at and all time low, and cooler heads prevail in the upper echelons of noble society.. These slaves are dozens of generations old. They are no longer Matari any longer and as such the Minmatar have no claim to them. These slaves are practising faithful. Many no longer want to go back. The Amarr Empire is entering a peaceful and arguably more co-operative era. We've made a great many cultural concessions during our time on the cluster wide political stage. These are cultural concessions we've not been forced to make but have done for the sake of cluster wide stability. We are not the ones who have broken inter-empire laws. They are our people now, and we shall take better care of them than their Elder's ever have. The empress herself has issued a decree that all slaves whose bloodlines can be traced back at least seven generations from their initial point of enslavement are to be emancipated with full rights of citizenship. Amarrian slavery is often much less brutal than a lot of the views of slavery we have today (where we think american colonization, sugar & cotton era), and more often it is closer to classical slavery (greek/roman & egyptian) where it can be harsh and brutal, but there's often unbelievably, incredibly strict laws that determine how it's practiced. "Slaves" can in theory rise to great status within the amarrian empire, even moreso after they are 'emancipated' with the full rights of amarrian citizens. The kameira's are slaves, and they are well respected as one of the greatest military forces in new eden. Really it comes down to the fact where the amarrian society has asked the question of "Is having an 'owner' such a bad thing?" and for most the answer is "No". The Amarr know who owns them. The caldari know what corporation owns them. The gallente claim to be free, but the vast majority fail to understand that they are bought and paid for by corporate interests. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3	Posted - 2015.06.22 04:17:00 - [7] - Quote ^It can in ways be similar to serfdom too. Which for some time wasn't actually all that bad, because there were a huge amount of legal responsibilities a lord had to his serfs... it was only after some things changed that lords lost their legal obligations and mostly worked on trying to get rid of their serfs to use land for grazing sheep. And I'm not 100% about the specifics of Jamyl's decree (especially in regards to which specific generation), though I know she made one and it upset some holders. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.