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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN New Eden's Heros
2176
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Posted - 2015.05.08 03:48:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:This nerf is proving to be the most fun I've had in this game for quite some time now
That is sad.
"Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.
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DUST Fiend
16913
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Posted - 2015.05.08 03:48:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:This nerf is proving to be the most fun I've had in this game for quite some time now That is sad. Just like all of you
These tears are delicious
"When in doubt, dropship out"
If you see me, bring AV to collect ISK
DUST STUFF
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN New Eden's Heros
2179
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Posted - 2015.05.08 03:52:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:This nerf is proving to be the most fun I've had in this game for quite some time now That is sad. Just like all of you These tears are delicious
Man, you only got a bucket of my tears. I've got an ocean of yours though.
I look up on some rainy days and see you in your dropship crying, I then proceed to go get my swarms to annihilate you, and then Sun prevails.
"Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.
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DUST Fiend
16913
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Posted - 2015.05.08 03:54:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:DUST Fiend wrote:This nerf is proving to be the most fun I've had in this game for quite some time now That is sad. Just like all of you These tears are delicious Man, you only got a bucket of my tears. I've got an ocean of yours though. I look up on some rainy days and see you in your dropship crying, I then proceed to go get my swarms to annihilate you, and then Sun prevails. How do you think I get up there? I'm green man, that thing runs entirely on Dukey tears.
Also, you clearly don't kill me enough if you think dropping even 100 of my Derps in a match will keep me from calling out another
"When in doubt, dropship out"
If you see me, bring AV to collect ISK
DUST STUFF
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BLOOD Ruler
VOLKOV INDUSTRIES
1794
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Posted - 2015.05.08 03:55:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:It's true Dukey the jump height with no penalties did'nt add up bro, hell tho just ask CCP for a Jetpack cause you'll probably get it, lol. Especially with how persistent you can be TBH, I don't run more than 3 myofibs anyway, but I need not be nerfed!! I only us 2, but was planing to use 4 later on. Can't now, the nerf was indeed worthless. Not balance? When I touch the ground I know I lose half-all shield and some armor. You tell me that wasn't balance, it had the benefit/cost ratio people.
Better maneuver of the cost of shields(dying faster) and taking damage everytime you hit the ground.
To me it sounds like you had no idea how to aim at them when moonwalk occurs.
There won't be a heart left beating... Is that fear I smell
I'll kill you, I'll kill your family, I'll kill your Stars.
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7th Son 7
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
977
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Posted - 2015.05.08 04:05:00 -
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BLOOD Ruler wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:7th Son 7 wrote:It's true Dukey the jump height with no penalties did'nt add up bro, hell tho just ask CCP for a Jetpack cause you'll probably get it, lol. Especially with how persistent you can be TBH, I don't run more than 3 myofibs anyway, but I need not be nerfed!! I only us 2, but was planing to use 4 later on. Can't now, the nerf was indeed worthless. Not balance? When I touch the ground I know I lose half-all shield and some armor. You tell me that wasn't balance, it had the benefit/cost ratio people. Better maneuver of the cost of shields(dying faster) and taking damage everytime you hit the ground. To me it sounds like you had no idea how to aim at them when moonwalk occurs.
Sounds like I would'nt become a psychic if I were you that's for sure. Truth is I Don't give that big of sh!t about it one way or the other. I hope they do reverse it on the other hand so I can continue rektin people with my Malitia Plasma Cannon/Flaylock combo, oh wait I still can because I can still jump. The numbers for the height seemed off tho so i'm stating my opinion on the matter.
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ------------- OSHO
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BLOOD Ruler
VOLKOV INDUSTRIES
1798
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Posted - 2015.05.08 04:49:00 -
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Oh forget this
No Escaping Reason, No Denying Purpose
For We Know Without Purpose We World Not Exist
The Purpose Of Life Is To End
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wireless pin
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2015.05.08 09:41:00 -
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Supernus Gigas wrote:wireless pin wrote:My main lost about 30 million in assets because of 5xMyo stacked cal assaults with PLC's and Flaylocks.
Now I've just replaced the myo's with shields and the PLC with an assault rail rifle and the flaylock with a bolt pistol.
Happy now fucktards? You can't blame other players for you losing 30mil in gear.
I wasn't. My main has been running a 5 myo PLC fit
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wireless pin
Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic
3
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Posted - 2015.05.08 09:47:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:wireless pin wrote:My main lost about 30 million in assets because of 5xMyo stacked cal assaults with PLC's and Flaylocks.
Now I've just replaced the myo's with shields and the PLC with an assault rail rifle and the flaylock with a bolt pistol.
Happy now fucktards? Funny, i prolly lost that much in dying to fall damage
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
8450
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Posted - 2015.05.08 10:23:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:
Man, you only got a bucket of my tears. I've got an ocean of yours though.
im afraid I collected all of those. And left you the oceans of xenuria tears from EVE.
Least valuable tears because they are the most common.
Forgive me. Couldn't resist.
There's never enough sh**posting going on, so let's add a few more teaspoons of the guy posting after me to the recipie!
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Forced Death
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
794
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Posted - 2015.05.08 10:26:00 -
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Everyone says they were easy to kill. Honestly, more than half the jumpers I experienced wielded AScR's and just murdered me while I was bringing up my view
11M SP
Gallente Logistics G/1 Series
Scout M/1 Series Assault M/1 Series
I'm doing something wrong
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
395
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Posted - 2015.05.08 10:32:00 -
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Forced Death wrote:Everyone says they were easy to kill. Honestly, more than half the jumpers I experienced wielded AScR's and just murdered me while I was bringing up my view Proto min assaults with Carthums and 4 myo........ *shudders* I have encountered these try hards way too many times
Dust 514: Unlimited Scrub Works
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3011
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Posted - 2015.05.08 12:50:00 -
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tal mrak-thanl wrote:Jumping was not obnoxious, it was cool as hell. THIS IS SUBJECTIVE OPINION. You may have found it 'cool as hell', but I guarantee you that for every person that found it 'cooooooooool' five others hated it.
tal mrak-thanl wrote:If it didn't work out for the suits you skilled into, I'm sorry you missed the chance to have a lot of fun. I wonder if the sides in this argument would be reversed if jump mods ended up in low slots? "If you couldn't exploit it, I'm sorry (I'm not really, I'm just being disingenuous), I wonder if you'd be upset about having your ability to exploit it removed if you were actually exploiting it!" This I meaningless non-discussion.
Stop making appeals to emotion, they're logical fallacies.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Sir Dukey
G0DS AM0NG MEN New Eden's Heros
2186
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Posted - 2015.05.08 21:44:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:tal mrak-thanl wrote:Jumping was not obnoxious, it was cool as hell. THIS IS SUBJECTIVE OPINION. You may have found it 'cool as hell', but I guarantee you that for every person that found it 'cooooooooool' five others hated it. tal mrak-thanl wrote:If it didn't work out for the suits you skilled into, I'm sorry you missed the chance to have a lot of fun. I wonder if the sides in this argument would be reversed if jump mods ended up in low slots? "If you couldn't exploit it, I'm sorry (I'm not really, I'm just being disingenuous), I wonder if you'd be upset about having your ability to exploit it removed if you were actually exploiting it!" This I meaningless non-discussion. Stop making appeals to emotion, they're logical fallacies.
What exactly is "it" that I am exploiting?
"Skill for thee but no skill for me" so is the saying of the swarm infantry.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. RUST415
3751
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Posted - 2015.05.08 22:05:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:It added an unintended effect into the game that altered the very flow of maps that were never designed to accommodate a mechanic that unintentionally allowed players to circumvent map design by being little supermen.
^^^ this was my biggest issue with it, along with the increased effectiveness of explosive weapons in the hands of a jumper.
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
402
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Posted - 2015.05.08 22:29:00 -
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Sir Dukey wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:tal mrak-thanl wrote:Jumping was not obnoxious, it was cool as hell. THIS IS SUBJECTIVE OPINION. You may have found it 'cool as hell', but I guarantee you that for every person that found it 'cooooooooool' five others hated it. tal mrak-thanl wrote:If it didn't work out for the suits you skilled into, I'm sorry you missed the chance to have a lot of fun. I wonder if the sides in this argument would be reversed if jump mods ended up in low slots? "If you couldn't exploit it, I'm sorry (I'm not really, I'm just being disingenuous), I wonder if you'd be upset about having your ability to exploit it removed if you were actually exploiting it!" This I meaningless non-discussion. Stop making appeals to emotion, they're logical fallacies. What exactly is "it" that I am exploiting? AOE weapons, escape button, hard to reach places that is supposed to be the role of dropships all that fun stuff
Dust 514: Unlimited Scrub Works
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
2292
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Posted - 2015.05.08 22:32:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Sir Dukey wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:tal mrak-thanl wrote:Jumping was not obnoxious, it was cool as hell. THIS IS SUBJECTIVE OPINION. You may have found it 'cool as hell', but I guarantee you that for every person that found it 'cooooooooool' five others hated it. tal mrak-thanl wrote:If it didn't work out for the suits you skilled into, I'm sorry you missed the chance to have a lot of fun. I wonder if the sides in this argument would be reversed if jump mods ended up in low slots? "If you couldn't exploit it, I'm sorry (I'm not really, I'm just being disingenuous), I wonder if you'd be upset about having your ability to exploit it removed if you were actually exploiting it!" This I meaningless non-discussion. Stop making appeals to emotion, they're logical fallacies. What exactly is "it" that I am exploiting? AOE weapons, escape button, hard to reach places that is supposed to be the role of dropships all that fun stuff
Sooo....emergent game play in a sandbox universe.
Trololololol
Better netcoding and plugged memory leaks. Last pieces of the broken puzlzle.
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
402
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Posted - 2015.05.08 22:36:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Sooo....emergent game play in a sandbox universe.
Trololololol
Trololo all you want, it's not going to give your myos back
Dust 514: Unlimited Scrub Works
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
9518
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Posted - 2015.05.08 22:42:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote: ... but I guarantee you that for every person that found it 'cooooooooool' five others hated it.
^ this seems very likely.
Shoot scout with yes.
- Ripley Riley
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Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
1477
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Posted - 2015.05.08 22:53:00 -
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delicious |
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tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
1041
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Posted - 2015.05.08 23:04:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:tal mrak-thanl wrote:Jumping was not obnoxious, it was cool as hell. THIS IS SUBJECTIVE OPINION. You may have found it 'cool as hell', but I guarantee you that for every person that found it 'cooooooooool' five others hated it. tal mrak-thanl wrote:If it didn't work out for the suits you skilled into, I'm sorry you missed the chance to have a lot of fun. I wonder if the sides in this argument would be reversed if jump mods ended up in low slots? "If you couldn't exploit it, I'm sorry (I'm not really, I'm just being disingenuous), I wonder if you'd be upset about having your ability to exploit it removed if you were actually exploiting it!" This I meaningless non-discussion. Stop making appeals to emotion, they're logical fallacies.
Yes, that was my subjective opinion, did I claim otherwise? I didn't make any appeals to emotion, I am sincere in my regret that everybody didn't get to enjoy, what I subjectively considered to be, an exceptionally fun game element.
You've been ostentensibly negative throughout this entire discussion. You claim that I've commited 'logical fallacies', yet you have failed to provide any empirical evidence to support your position. Your argument of armor tanked jumpers is flat out wrong, as I've pointed out at least twice, and to which you have not replied. Your argument about an easy escape vector is absurdly wrong in my experience, jumping during combat has resulted in instant death every time I've tried it, as it has for those who have tried to jump to escape me. Apparently you've had a different experience regarding this particular aspect of jumping, as you have repeatedly cited it as a concrete and universal detriment.
The premise of your argument is that jumpers annoy you; the premise of my argument is that your annoyance isn't justification to eliminate content from the game. If you consider the changes to myos within the context of one of the weapons, perhaps you will be more understanding of my reaction. Imagine if the dps of your gun of choice was halved, would you not seek a compromise at the very least? if the HMG got nerfed in half, the forums would rage! But you know what the difference is between myos and HMGs? Practically no one uses myos.
Now, I am going to make an appeal to your emotions: I would appreciate if you would stop condescending to me. I apologize if something I said made you feel the need to insult my intelligence, it was never my intention to offend you.
"That OB was like a wet fart" - Eros Adonai mini flux 2015
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
2293
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Posted - 2015.05.08 23:09:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:Sooo....emergent game play in a sandbox universe.
Trololololol
Trololo all you want, it's not going to give your myos back
Nope, because we must not have happy accidents. Ripley made that very very clear day one of myos release.
Still got my 3 myo fast suits i use far more often than the 5 myo bombers. Im just havinh fun pulling punches for once instaed of viciously shouting down opposition to rattati.
Better netcoding and plugged memory leaks. Last pieces of the broken puzlzle.
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MINA Longstrike
Kirjuun Heiian
3024
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Posted - 2015.05.08 23:36:00 -
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tal mrak-thanl wrote: 1)Yes, that was my subjective opinion, did I claim otherwise? I didn't make any appeals to emotion, I am sincere in my regret that everybody didn't get to enjoy, what I subjectively considered to be, an exceptionally fun game element.
2)You've been ostentensibly negative throughout this entire discussion. You claim that I've commited 'logical fallacies', yet you have failed to provide any empirical evidence to support your position. Your argument of armor tanked jumpers is flat out wrong, as I've pointed out at least twice, and to which you have not replied. Your argument about an easy escape vector is absurdly wrong in my experience, jumping during combat has resulted in instant death every time I've tried it, as it has for those who have tried to jump to escape me. Apparently you've had a different experience regarding this particular aspect of jumping, as you have repeatedly cited it as a concrete and universal detriment.
3)The premise of your argument is that jumpers annoy you; the premise of my argument is that your annoyance isn't justification to eliminate content from the game. If you consider the changes to myos within the context of one of the weapons, perhaps you will be more understanding of my reaction. Imagine if the dps of your gun of choice was halved, would you not seek a compromise at the very least? if the HMG got nerfed in half, the forums would rage! But you know what the difference is between myos and HMGs? Practically no one uses myos.
Now, I am going to make an appeal to your emotions: I would appreciate if you would stop condescending to me. I apologize if something I said made you feel the need to insult my intelligence, it was never my intention to offend you.
1) You present your opinion as fact. The claim that you have not made appeals to emotion is false. 2) You have commited logical fallacies. Yes, I have been critical of your position(as you would call it 'negative'), you are also confusing the burden of proof, you are making wild assertions that myo users have to 'sacrifice a ton' and I've quite simply and easily pointed out that this is in no way the case. "Oh no armor plates negatively affect jumping" You lose what, a meter or two off of your jump height in exchange for fitting HP modules that provide equal value to the 4 highslots you've given up? What exactly are you giving up here? The ability to fit speed mods? I've only seen a few niche fits that ran speed mods instead of being ultra-tanked. Your position here is completely ridiculous and your arguments are so flawed that they don't even really need addressing. Yes sometimes jumpers die when they jump in close quarters, more often than not however, they don't unless they were completely outnumbered to begin with and even then they survive longer than most other infantry would when put in the same position
3) The premise of my argument is that stacked myo's are blatantly unbalanced, and this can be evidenced by their daily purchase rate shooting up 1000% from the day they were changed, making them 1/3rd as popular as shield extenders and 1/2 as popular as damage mods. I have provided plausible justification for my position. Each myo mod is what, 25% extra jump at complex level? If stacking penalties were applying properly that would be 86% extra jump height for four - not the 500-700% people were getting from four of them. In context that changes the normal 2m of vertical jump height on an assault to 3.7m, not the 13-15m people were getting.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian.
I have a few alts.
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Soldner VonKuechle
SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance
2293
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Posted - 2015.05.09 00:02:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:tal mrak-thanl wrote:Jumping was not obnoxious, it was cool as hell. THIS IS SUBJECTIVE OPINION. You may have found it 'cool as hell', but I guarantee you that for every person that found it 'cooooooooool' five others hated it.
care substantiate how you quantified that? Or are you making a subjective opinion as well?
Better netcoding and plugged memory leaks. Last pieces of the broken puzlzle.
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Georgia Xavier
Y.A.M.A.H
402
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Posted - 2015.05.09 00:08:00 -
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Soldner VonKuechle wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:tal mrak-thanl wrote:Jumping was not obnoxious, it was cool as hell. THIS IS SUBJECTIVE OPINION. You may have found it 'cool as hell', but I guarantee you that for every person that found it 'cooooooooool' five others hated it. care substantiate how you quantified that? Or are you making a subjective opinion as well? you can read one of the many displeased topics people have made about myos, just hit up the search tab and write myofibrils. You just see what you want to see don't you?
Dust 514: Unlimited Scrub Works
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tal mrak-thanl
Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion.
1044
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Posted - 2015.05.09 00:17:00 -
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I haven't presented my opinion as anything but. Perhaps your dislike for my opinion is affecting your ability to understand my position. "Jumping was not obnoxious, it was cool as hell" is clearly an opinion, "It is a fact that jumping was not obnoxious, it was cool as hell" would be an assertion of factuality.
Each one of the detriments and broken mechanics you have mentioned, I consider to be healthy and interesting game elements. I truly believe all of your 'plausible justification' to be trivial. But, I respect your opinion, and I respect that you defend your opinion with some degree of civility.
I liked jumping, despite its inherent deviation from the original vision, and you did not. As you say, there isn't really anything to prove.
"That OB was like a wet fart" - Eros Adonai mini flux 2015
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7th Son 7
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
983
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Posted - 2015.05.09 00:18:00 -
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Quote:[/quotejumping during combat has resulted in instant death every time I've tried it, as it has for those who have tried to jump to escape me. [quote]
1) Your not that smart
2) This is a fallacy
3) Your ********
I would guess #2 =ƒÿÇ
Only your complete and total awareness is needed, nothing else will do. ------------- OSHO
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Patrick57
10030
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Posted - 2015.05.09 00:21:00 -
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Supernus Gigas wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:Assaults have about 500-600 hp base. 2 complex shield extenders puts them up to almost 800, 2 complex armor plates put them up almost to 900 ehp. That's not 'scout ehp'.
There was plenty of things that were overpowered about stacked myo's, including the fact that everyone knew that they were not working as intended but decided "HEY LETS ABUSE THE CRAP OUT OF THEM ANYWAYS!" Yeah, so sick of all that rampant MyoStim abuse. Oh wait, the novelty wore off for most people after the first week. HP and Damage Mod stacking is still the way to go. I see maybe one or two MyoStim stackers a match. wait damage mod stacking is back? I still put 3 myos on my assault.. |
Crimson ShieId
Horizons' Edge No Context
2555
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Posted - 2015.05.09 00:28:00 -
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Damage mod stacking never left. I've got three on my Gallente assault and it absolutely tears through everything. Feels like I'm using a Scrambler Rifle, just without the heat buildup.
My Plasma Cannon says "Hello" to your face~
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Crimson ShieId
Horizons' Edge No Context
2555
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Posted - 2015.05.09 00:30:00 -
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Georgia Xavier wrote:Soldner VonKuechle wrote:MINA Longstrike wrote:tal mrak-thanl wrote:Jumping was not obnoxious, it was cool as hell. THIS IS SUBJECTIVE OPINION. You may have found it 'cool as hell', but I guarantee you that for every person that found it 'cooooooooool' five others hated it. care substantiate how you quantified that? Or are you making a subjective opinion as well? you can read one of the many displeased topics people have made about myos, just hit up the search tab and write myofibrils. You just see what you want to see don't you?
You're also just as likely to find just as many people who absolutely loved myofibrils after their changes.
My Plasma Cannon says "Hello" to your face~
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