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MINA Longstrike wrote:

DDx77 wrote:

Hahaha you hate myofibs so much it's hilarious

Literally going above and beyond trolling by posting wiki definitions

All this hate and myofibs aren't going away :D

When you face a min assault that jumps but doesn't die from fall damage and then strafes you to death you're going to wish you never posted that "myofibs stacking penalty not working" thread
(At least I'm pretty sure that was you)

The days of myo superjumps are numbered. Also what wiki definitions? I used exactly one to define burden of proof. Or do you mean dictionary definitions of words so that people would stop being idiots and misusing them?

Yes I made a thread about myo stacking penalty not working in the bug reports section of the forum - that's what you're supposed to do when bugs are encountered, report them so they can be fixed.

DDx77 wrote:

It's actually not a big deal that they're "nerfing" myos, but you have to admit they should leave it alone

They are fine now and wasting any more time on them when we should be trading bpo's or using new skins is crazy

I "have to admit" absolutely nothing, especially when it comes to agreeing/compromising with people on something I have no reason to agree or compromise with them over. No they should not "leave it alone", not until myo's have a properly working stacking penalty which coincidentally means no more superjumps.

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Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2296	Posted - 2015.05.09 00:36:00 - [121] - Quote Georgia Xavier wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: tal mrak-thanl wrote: Jumping was not obnoxious, it was cool as hell. THIS IS SUBJECTIVE OPINION. You may have found it 'cool as hell', but I guarantee you that for every person that found it 'cooooooooool' five others hated it. care substantiate how you quantified that? Or are you making a subjective opinion as well? you can read one of the many displeased topics people have made about myos, just hit up the search tab and write myofibrils. You just see what you want to see don't you? Mob mentality into an ad hominum accusation of cognitive bias. Very nice. Im gonna go ahead and claim some fallacies will be in the next passages that follow because im tired, in a rush and loading feed. My opinioniated position of myos since its rebirth and error has been one of community driven emergent game play. it has been (and im sure will be) stated again that the coding is bad and behaving inconsistent with what was expected. Fine. I understand that. What the community did was play test the hell outta the broken myos. And immediately following their release, they were deemed entirely OP and game breaking. Defenders of the myos claimed,as dukey has mentioned nearly a bajilluon times (forum scientific measurement) this stacking occured on shield suits weakening main tanking. Opponents argued armor tanking still viable and this debate still rages on to today. The opponents main claim is stacked myo suits are too effective at killing because of aoe weapon damage and moderate hp values, ground speed mobility negligible at best. Mina has so expertly pointed out that the market sell history datum shows an absudly large increase in purchaess of rebuilt myos. There is nothing to refute, that is a collected datum. But what is not taken into consideration is gow thise myos are used. We di not have access to data involving suit fittings, which would then tell us the percentage of myo users per race/class, how much time elapsed is spent in a myo'ed suit, what its kill -spawn efficiency is and how many total deaths occurred per match. We have none of that. We are basing our entire forum arguments on subjective opinions gathered from the forum itself. I personally state again that i believe emergent game play should trump designed intent, included broken code (sticky res-jlavs) if the emergent tactic remains niche at best. We the forum dwellers do not have that data to argue anything further, so here we are. end passage. Poopweasel. Better netcoding and plugged memory leaks. Last pieces of the broken puzlzle.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3026	Posted - 2015.05.09 01:01:00 - [122] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: Soldner VonKuechle wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: tal mrak-thanl wrote: Jumping was not obnoxious, it was cool as hell. THIS IS SUBJECTIVE OPINION. You may have found it 'cool as hell', but I guarantee you that for every person that found it 'cooooooooool' five others hated it. care substantiate how you quantified that? Or are you making a subjective opinion as well? you can read one of the many displeased topics people have made about myos, just hit up the search tab and write myofibrils. You just see what you want to see don't you? You're also just as likely to find just as many people who absolutely loved myofibrils after their changes. The very fact that it has a decisive split among peoples feelings surrounding the statement 'jumping is cool as all hell' substantiates that said statement is a subjective opinion. sub-+jec-+tive /s+Öb-êjektiv/ adjective 1. based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions. o-+pin-+ion /+Ö-êpiny+Ön/ noun 1. a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge. Compare this to objective fact ob-+jec-+tive /+Öb-êjektiv/ adjective 1. not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts. fact /fakt/ noun 1. a thing that is indisputably the case. I should not have to be defining these words to adults. Nor should I have to be highlighting the obvious. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
tal mrak-thanl Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1044	Posted - 2015.05.09 01:20:00 - [123] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: The very fact that it has a decisive split among peoples feelings surrounding the statement 'jumping is cool as all hell' substantiates that said statement is a subjective opinion. sub-+jec-+tive /s+Öb-êjektiv/ adjective 1. based on or influenced by personal feelings, tastes, or opinions. o-+pin-+ion /+Ö-êpiny+Ön/ noun 1. a view or judgment formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge. Compare this to objective fact ob-+jec-+tive /+Öb-êjektiv/ adjective 1. not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts. fact /fakt/ noun 1. a thing that is indisputably the case. I should not have to be defining these words to adults. Nor should I have to be highlighting the obvious. He was addressing your guarantee that for every player that liked myos, 5 hated them. Way to be condescending for no good reason. "That OB was like a wet fart" - Eros Adonai mini flux 2015
Crimson ShieId Horizons' Edge No Context 2560	Posted - 2015.05.09 01:32:00 - [124] - Quote You can throw whatever definitions you pulled off wiki around all you want, it's not going to change that fact that some people really enjoyed them while others, like yourself, downright hated them and seem to be making it a habit of tossing out insults towards those who disagree with your ideas that Myofibrils are/were bad for the game. Like many things in this game, CCP didn't test them and didn't anticipate how high people would be jumping. The results of stacking may not have been intended, but it was one of the most entertaining glitches to ever come out of this game, not to mention the fact that it helped end a lot of rooftop camping by allowing access to many areas previously only reachable by dropship. Could a jumpy clone who just wouldn't seem to die be annoying? Yes. But so can a cloaked Gallente shotgun scout, so can a proto Amarr assault with a scrambler rifle and stacked damage mods, so can logi trains, and the redline snipers can sure as heck be annoying as well. My Plasma Cannon says "Hello" to your face~
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3028	Posted - 2015.05.09 01:53:00 - [125] - Quote Dictionary definitions of words are wiki references now? Lol. You've outed yourself as a dumbass. We've explained why and where the problems were, ignoring evidence doesn't make it not exist. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Crimson ShieId Horizons' Edge No Context 2563	Posted - 2015.05.09 02:10:00 - [126] - Quote And you continue to show that you're quite good at tossing insults around. Definitions are (also) located on wiki, even if they don't originate there, thus the statement. Care to continue, or are you simply unable to hold a civil conversation? My Plasma Cannon says "Hello" to your face~
tal mrak-thanl Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1045	Posted - 2015.05.09 02:16:00 - [127] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: tal mrak-thanl wrote: He was addressing your guarantee that for every player that liked myos, 5 hated them. Way to be condescending for no good reason. Ah so it's fine for you to exaggerate how many people enjoyed it, but when I reverse the statement we need to be pointlessly stringent? double standards are fun. I'm not being stringent at all about your guarantee, someone else was. I simply pointed out that you took all that time to copy and paste definitions of 'subjective' and 'fact' for no good reason. It's especially funny because you made that dig at the end about explaining definitions to adults. "That OB was like a wet fart" - Eros Adonai mini flux 2015
Crimson ShieId Horizons' Edge No Context 2563	Posted - 2015.05.09 02:19:00 - [128] - Quote Ya know, on second thought, I'm going to agree with you. I am a dumbass, it was stupid to reenter this conversation when I knew were it would lead. The discussions have been made, CCP have finalized their decision, and therefor, there's no point in continuing when the only results will be insults flung from one or multiple parties. Good day to you, sir. Tips his hat and returns to trying to acquire the final key of the day My Plasma Cannon says "Hello" to your face~
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3030	Posted - 2015.05.09 02:23:00 - [129] - Quote Crimson ShieId wrote: And you continue to show that you're quite good at tossing insults around. Definitions are (also) located on wiki, even if they don't originate there, thus the statement. Care to continue, or are you simply unable to hold a civil conversation? I wasn't quoting wiki's, I was pointing out the accepted definitions of words. I'm not sure where you're going with this but it's pedantic and infantile. Crimson ShieId wrote: ~~You can throw whatever definitions you pulled off wiki around all you want~~, it's not going to change that fact that some people really enjoyed them while others, like yourself, downright hated them and seem to be making it a habit of tossing out insults towards those who disagree with your ideas that Myofibrils are/were bad for the game. I've actually tossed around relatively few insults regarding myo's, but you're entirely agreeing with my point that enjoyment of myo's is a subjective opinion. That they caused a lot of unintended gameplay however is and has been demonstrated within this thread even with plenty of sound reasoning presented! Largely the response of myo users is to plug their ears and go "LALALALALA I CANT HEAR YOU" because evidence that contradicts their view is badwrong and doesn't exist. It's a wonder that some people might throw insults after getting frustrated when confronted with such childishness and refusal to see reason. Crimson ShieId wrote: Like many things in this game, CCP didn't test them and didn't anticipate how high people would be jumping. The results of stacking may not have been intended, but it was one of the most entertaining glitches to ever come out of this game, not to mention the fact that it helped end a lot of rooftop camping by allowing access to many areas previously only reachable by dropship. The descriptor 'entertaining' has no inherent value, what you call entertaining plenty of others call it frustrating. Myo's did little to end rooftop camping because in almost every match where I saw myo's used, it was the people using myo's to get uplinks into all of the high spots without requiring dropships. I might go so far as to even say gasp that myo's exacerbated rooftop camping: they were part of the problem, not a solution to it. Crimson ShieId wrote: Could a jumpy clone who just wouldn't seem to die be annoying? Yes. But so can a cloaked Gallente shotgun scout, so can a proto Amarr assault with a scrambler rifle and stacked damage mods, so can logi trains, and the redline snipers can sure as heck be annoying as well. Ah yes, we're on to the logical fallacy of false equivalence now. All things that are 'annoying' are in fact equal in how frustrating they are to deal with, except that isn't true at all. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3031	Posted - 2015.05.09 02:32:00 - [130] - Quote tal mrak-thanl wrote: I'm not being stringent at all about your guarantee, someone else was. Actually, if you reread it, they weren't going on about my poignant exaggeration at all, they were just being contrary for the sake of being contrary. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

tal mrak-thanl Corrosive Synergy Rise Of Legion. 1046	Posted - 2015.05.09 02:37:00 - [131] - Quote Actually, I think most of this thread is about your poignant exaggerations. "That OB was like a wet fart" - Eros Adonai mini flux 2015
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3037	Posted - 2015.05.09 03:00:00 - [132] - Quote tal mrak-thanl wrote: Actually, I think most of this thread is about your poignant exaggerations. I thought it was mostly about harvesting delicious myo tears. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Soldner VonKuechle SAM-MIK General Tso's Alliance 2297	Posted - 2015.05.09 03:54:00 - [133] - Quote slow claps for this thread Better netcoding and plugged memory leaks. Last pieces of the broken puzlzle.
DDx77 OUTCAST MERCS General Tso's Alliance 258	Posted - 2015.05.09 04:09:00 - [134] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: tal mrak-thanl wrote: Actually, I think most of this thread is about your poignant exaggerations. I thought it was mostly about harvesting delicious myo tears. The bottes are blue for a reason. --- Hahaha you hate myofibs so much it's hilarious Literally going above and beyond trolling by posting wiki definitions All this hate and myofibs aren't going away :D When you face a min assault that jumps but doesn't die from fall damage and then strafes you to death you're going to wish you never posted that "myofibs stacking penalty not working" thread (At least I'm pretty sure that was you) It's actually not a big deal that they're "nerfing" myos, but you have to admit they should leave it alone They are fine now and wasting any more time on them when we should be trading bpo's or using new skins is crazy
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11026	Posted - 2015.05.09 04:16:00 - [135] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: This is like all the crazy tabletop dungeons and dragons rules lawyering arguments I see people get into. Rules as written are often very different from rules as intended. God what I wouldn't give for self updating books Trying to keep track of Wizards fixes to rules is a damn nightmare, or at least it was back when I tried to keep up with it haha. You play DnD? I used to play it religiously, I haven't had the chance to play in years though. I DMd mostly, I like to keep things cruel but fair Make a Dust themed DnD one shot. Get some forum guys to play. 5E for easy pickup. I love playing DnD, just haven't had time with school this semester. I'll probably pick up a campaign over the summer. Currently listening to: Max Anarchy OST Old School Scout, watch out for the knives
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3042	Posted - 2015.05.09 04:19:00 - [136] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Georgia Xavier wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: This is like all the crazy tabletop dungeons and dragons rules lawyering arguments I see people get into. Rules as written are often very different from rules as intended. God what I wouldn't give for self updating books Trying to keep track of Wizards fixes to rules is a damn nightmare, or at least it was back when I tried to keep up with it haha. You play DnD? I used to play it religiously, I haven't had the chance to play in years though. I DMd mostly, I like to keep things cruel but fair Make a Dust themed DnD one shot. Get some forum guys to play. 5E for easy pickup. I love playing DnD, just haven't had time with school this semester. I'll probably pick up a campaign over the summer. One of the 40K tabletops would work better I think. Deathwatch or something? Refluff it a bit and it should be fine. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11026	Posted - 2015.05.09 04:22:00 - [137] - Quote My thoughts on the change: Up to 3x was said to be working as intended by CCP. They let it slide for a while to see if they liked the direction it was going. They decided they didn't like it, and have patched it. Overall, I think it was well handled. 3x allows for functionality that appears reasonable. You can jump on ledges you couldn't before and over people in mid sprint if need be. 4x and 5x weren't OP, just not working as intended. Once CCP hammers out the stacking penalties, you will be able to run 4x and 5x as you want, it just won't be anywhere near as high. If you really liked the functionality of 5x Mybo's, why not see if CCP can implement a jump jet, like in Star Wars Battlefront II? (The Dark Trooper jump jet). Make it a light suit specialization, with a build in immunity to fall damage. Good for rapid vertical movement. Currently listening to: Max Anarchy OST Old School Scout, watch out for the knives
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution Negative-Feedback 11026	Posted - 2015.05.09 04:23:00 - [138] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I used to play it religiously, I haven't had the chance to play in years though. I DMd mostly, I like to keep things cruel but fair Make a Dust themed DnD one shot. Get some forum guys to play. 5E for easy pickup. I love playing DnD, just haven't had time with school this semester. I'll probably pick up a campaign over the summer. One of the 40K tabletops would work better I think. Deathwatch or something? Refluff it a bit and it should be fine. Kinda what I meant. I refer to practically every d20 pen and paper by DnD, I just think of them all as different rule sets with a similar core. Currently listening to: Max Anarchy OST Old School Scout, watch out for the knives
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3043	Posted - 2015.05.09 04:31:00 - [139] - Quote DDx77 wrote: Hahaha you hate myofibs so much it's hilarious Literally going above and beyond trolling by posting wiki definitions All this hate and myofibs aren't going away :D When you face a min assault that jumps but doesn't die from fall damage and then strafes you to death you're going to wish you never posted that "myofibs stacking penalty not working" thread (At least I'm pretty sure that was you) The days of myo superjumps are numbered. Also what wiki definitions? I used exactly one to define burden of proof. Or do you mean dictionary definitions of words so that people would stop being idiots and misusing them? Yes I made a thread about myo stacking penalty not working in the bug reports section of the forum - that's what you're supposed to do when bugs are encountered, report them so they can be fixed. DDx77 wrote: It's actually not a big deal that they're "nerfing" myos, but you have to admit they should leave it alone They are fine now and wasting any more time on them when we should be trading bpo's or using new skins is crazy I "have to admit" absolutely nothing, especially when it comes to agreeing/compromising with people on something I have no reason to agree or compromise with them over. No they should not "leave it alone", not until myo's have a properly working stacking penalty which coincidentally means no more superjumps. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3043	Posted - 2015.05.09 04:32:00 - [140] - Quote Ghost Kaisar wrote: MINA Longstrike wrote: Ghost Kaisar wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I used to play it religiously, I haven't had the chance to play in years though. I DMd mostly, I like to keep things cruel but fair Make a Dust themed DnD one shot. Get some forum guys to play. 5E for easy pickup. I love playing DnD, just haven't had time with school this semester. I'll probably pick up a campaign over the summer. One of the 40K tabletops would work better I think. Deathwatch or something? Refluff it a bit and it should be fine. Kinda what I meant. I refer to practically every d20 pen and paper by DnD, I just think of them all as different rule sets with a similar core. The 40k games are d10 and pretty good at that. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.

Matius Indectus Shadow of the Raven 6	Posted - 2015.05.09 04:54:00 - [141] - Quote Supernus Gigas wrote: Operative 1174 Uuali wrote: Not that type of game. Titanfall is that way ==> See what happens CCP when you let the cat out of the bag with some stupid little machanic. People act like it should be written in stone. First the cloak and now this. It's like a damn crutch. Just say NO to your combat game being turned into Super Mario Bros people. And here comes the "dust is super srs war game no fun allowed" crowd You do realize what kind of community Dust and EvE have right? The only people who aren't serious when it comes to gameplay mechanics are in fact forum trolls. The whole concept of this game is to play a large role in sovereignty in New Eden. Tell me this, if you have a few thousand dollars worth of assets at risk would you be so lax? If you can't read in between the lines, then what makes you think you can write?
DDx77 OUTCAST MERCS General Tso's Alliance 259	Posted - 2015.05.09 06:40:00 - [142] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: DDx77 wrote: Hahaha you hate myofibs so much it's hilarious Literally going above and beyond trolling by posting wiki definitions All this hate and myofibs aren't going away :D When you face a min assault that jumps but doesn't die from fall damage and then strafes you to death you're going to wish you never posted that "myofibs stacking penalty not working" thread (At least I'm pretty sure that was you) The days of myo superjumps are numbered. Also what wiki definitions? I used exactly one to define burden of proof. Or do you mean dictionary definitions of words so that people would stop being idiots and misusing them? Yes I made a thread about myo stacking penalty not working in the bug reports section of the forum - that's what you're supposed to do when bugs are encountered, report them so they can be fixed. DDx77 wrote: It's actually not a big deal that they're "nerfing" myos, but you have to admit they should leave it alone They are fine now and wasting any more time on them when we should be trading bpo's or using new skins is crazy I "have to admit" absolutely nothing, especially when it comes to agreeing/compromising with people on something I have no reason to agree or compromise with them over. No they should not "leave it alone", not until myo's have a properly working stacking penalty which coincidentally means no more superjumps. Please tell me you're not this miserable in real life Point on the doll where the "super jump myofib" touched you This is absolutely hilarious Yes Yes let's hope the skeleton crew of Devs waist more time getting the myofib stacking penalty working properly because after limiting them to 3 they are still grossly OP and ruining your OCD life & also because you know there really aren't many other actually truly important things that are broken in this game and need fixing or new content that could be released. Nope, those damn myos. They have ruined too much. MY GOD FIXXXX THEEEMMMM!!! AHHHHHHHHHhhhhhhh Btw I pictured a crazed lunatic Russian woman with a very thick accent screaming at the top of her lungs and breathing fire "I HAVE TO ADMIT ABSOLUTLEY NOTHING" rrrrrraaaawwwrrrrrrrwrwrrwrrrrrrrrr
MINA Longstrike Kirjuun Heiian 3044	Posted - 2015.05.09 11:41:00 - [143] - Quote You're unfortunately way off about how much I 'hate' myo's. The assertion that I'm incredibly upset doesn't match up with reality, where I've been carrying out a pretty calm rational discussion with people for quite some time. Shout 'U mad tho' a few thousand more times though and maybe it'll be true. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Kirjuun Heiian. I have a few alts.


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