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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2014.12.30 22:09:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:shooter get too much wp for that they do.
they should get 5wp for killing mlt with their proto weapon
and 50 for killing a proto with their mlt weapon
using proto against mlt is just too easy wp farming
There's no way to adjust that for each weapon. There has to be a universal point for killing a person, and that is 50. You need to conform to the battlefield, players, & situations.
"Nothing + Nothing = Nothing. Now eat your bribery...err...I mean your breakfast, son." - Fred G. Sanford
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2014.12.30 22:20:00 -
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Twelve Guage wrote:Clone D wrote:Twelve Guage wrote:Clone D wrote:Separate topic: Free market values should determine the cost of goods in order to make a deeper game system. And how do you think making your suit the same price as my's is a separate topic. This goes hand and hand with the isk factor in this game which is tied to guess what how many war points you get in a game. My opinion on the cost of goods relates to what players are willing to pay for goods in a free market system. If we had to bid against each other for limited goods, then it would add much more weight to the fittings creation process and add weight to the prospect of a clone's death. My opinion is that the cost of goods should be driven by what truly motivates a player to become embroiled in the world of Dust. One person wants the most powerful gear and would be willing to pay top dollar for it. The next person may simply want to casually participate in a low cost setting. The scarcity of items would drive the cost, based on the mining of minerals in the EVE universe, but that is another long discussion. This is not an answer to my question and you know it. Wp contribute to isk made in game. Logi work contributes to WP. Why should you be paid more for only pointing and shooting at red dots. When a logi has to worry about where to put their equipment , is it really a good ideal to run out and pick someone up, this person I'm repping why are they still running at the emery with one forth of theirs heath, hey I need some reps is there any other logi's around, and getting gunned down by every suit out there with extreme prejudice because everyone know they are and easy kill. Oh and lets not for get my personal favorite realizing your the only logi on the team so now you really have to think three steps a head or risk having your teamed red-lined or spawn camped. The risk that logi's have to take just to get those point far out weighs the risk any other suit has to take because our suit are more expense. So please do try answer my questions again but this time put a bit more thought into it.
rekt
"Nothing + Nothing = Nothing. Now eat your bribery...err...I mean your breakfast, son." - Fred G. Sanford
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Nirwanda Vaughns
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Posted - 2014.12.30 22:23:00 -
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Clone D wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Clone D wrote:Logi is a simpleton's role I know someone who won't be getting repped or resupplied anytime soon. The formula is: Put hives down. Latch on. Pick up. die lots!!
updated it for you
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
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Clone D
Grundstein Automation
1236
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Posted - 2014.12.30 22:30:00 -
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Aiwha Bait wrote:Twelve Guage wrote:Clone D wrote:Twelve Guage wrote:Clone D wrote:Separate topic: Free market values should determine the cost of goods in order to make a deeper game system. And how do you think making your suit the same price as my's is a separate topic. This goes hand and hand with the isk factor in this game which is tied to guess what how many war points you get in a game. My opinion on the cost of goods relates to what players are willing to pay for goods in a free market system. If we had to bid against each other for limited goods, then it would add much more weight to the fittings creation process and add weight to the prospect of a clone's death. My opinion is that the cost of goods should be driven by what truly motivates a player to become embroiled in the world of Dust. One person wants the most powerful gear and would be willing to pay top dollar for it. The next person may simply want to casually participate in a low cost setting. The scarcity of items would drive the cost, based on the mining of minerals in the EVE universe, but that is another long discussion. This is not an answer to my question and you know it. Wp contribute to isk made in game. Logi work contributes to WP. Why should you be paid more for only pointing and shooting at red dots. When a logi has to worry about where to put their equipment , is it really a good ideal to run out and pick someone up, this person I'm repping why are they still running at the emery with one forth of theirs heath, hey I need some reps is there any other logi's around, and getting gunned down by every suit out there with extreme prejudice because everyone know they are and easy kill. Oh and lets not for get my personal favorite realizing your the only logi on the team so now you really have to think three steps a head or risk having your teamed red-lined or spawn camped. The risk that logi's have to take just to get those point far out weighs the risk any other suit has to take because our suit are more expense. So please do try answer my questions again but this time put a bit more thought into it. rekt
If you look in the store, a proto logi dropsuit costs 57,690 and so does a proto assault, so I fail to see your point.
I dunno. What do you want me to say in order for you not to say rekt. I really hate that. I cannot stand someone saying rekt to me. I just want to say whatever it will take in order to make you stop saying rekt.
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1834
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Posted - 2014.12.30 22:31:00 -
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Aiwha Bait wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:shooter get too much wp for that they do.
they should get 5wp for killing mlt with their proto weapon
and 50 for killing a proto with their mlt weapon
using proto against mlt is just too easy wp farming There's no way to adjust that for each weapon. There has to be a universal point for killing a person, and that is 50. You need to conform to the battlefield, players, & situations.
precisely the point. there are universal points for all equipment. how can you limit the wp of logistics when every logi fits different quantities of different equipment at different levels which supply wp at different rates. 1 match i could be hitting 2.5k but so are all the shooters. but thats not the issue. the issue is often logistics will be left behind because your team is good and are not dieing, not taking damage,not using your uplinks meaning no or little wp.
there is no such thing as equal or balanced rewards for effort in dust because everyone plays it differently. and you cannot predict in any way how and when a logistics will earn his wp. so if this idea went ahead what we will get is logistics getting widely varying levels of wp due to the complexity of what we do while shooters will be rewarded more which will vary very little as the variables for earning wp for shooters are much more simple.
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CPM Awox
xXEspeon's VillageXx
49
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Posted - 2014.12.30 22:33:00 -
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Fizzer XCIV wrote:As an Assault.
**** no. **** you.
Logis deserve every WP they get.
Calling logi a simpletons role is really hypocritical, too. They are the most though intensive role in the game.
Slayers are the simple roles. Run. Kill. Rinse. Repeat.
Logis are those ones that are always making sure everyone is topped off for HP, always asking their squadmates if they have ammo or not, reviving downed blues, and scanning the places that need to be scanned.
As a Sentinel.
This guy can go **** himself. Logies are the ****. Keep repping my fatself all you want guys don't let this **** wit tell your other wise.
Killed again has Super-Ebola.
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benandjerrys
NECROM0NGERS
67
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Posted - 2014.12.30 22:51:00 -
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As a closed beta true logibro even when logisults and scouts ruled the battlefield... I care about w's and l's not wp not k/d wp and kd shows a diluted efficiency of your performance regardless of your job. Wp generation has been nerfed already with baseline wp offence/defense. So go ahead equalize all support actions to 15 and guardian to 25 and see if I care my repper tool and scans will still flow. |
PARKOUR PRACTIONER
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
2344
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Posted - 2014.12.30 22:58:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Clone D wrote:I agree with this, but that doesn't mean to say that it is difficult or deserving of such high payouts. The logi role isn't altogether the most fun role to play. If logis didn't receive a bump in WPs we would have half as many of them running around and I'm not okay with that. This too... KING CHECKMATE wrote:IT pays the most WP because its what most people who play a FPS DONT want to do. Help others. Also, I disagree with the statement "isn't difficult". Maybe if you just drop uplinks around, actively avoid the fire fights, and occasionally top off a bluberries armor when you pass one, sure. But logis who are in the thick of the fight have to watch themselves. Their dropsuits are basically made of hamburger wrappers and hope. If they fit decent equipment they have to sacrifice some eHP too. By the way, logis who are in the fire with their squads are frequently the primary targets because of the aforementioned low eHP.
Can agree with the last sentence a lot. In PC, i go after the logis because no logis- no support.
PSN Sil4ntChaozz
Suits- Gk.0/Mk.0 'Sever' scout Weapons- SG, NK, SmG, ScP, CR, SR, ARR, REs
Specialty- Nice Lone Wolf
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
2344
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Posted - 2014.12.30 23:06:00 -
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Clone, this statement and many others are entirely incorrect.
If its so simpleton like, why are logis constantly targeted with extreme prejudice? (including me)
PSN Sil4ntChaozz
Suits- Gk.0/Mk.0 'Sever' scout Weapons- SG, NK, SmG, ScP, CR, SR, ARR, REs
Specialty- Nice Lone Wolf
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Nirwanda Vaughns
1157
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Posted - 2014.12.30 23:08:00 -
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It takes quite a bit of tweakign to be a good logi, sure anyone can pickup a logi suit and slap on a repper but your suit can cost twice as much as an assault once you stick all the high end equipment on it and you probably die twice as much too. its not a cheap job is being a logi.
it is a good way for new players to build SP up and with right setup make a lot of isk using a basic logi suit and a BDR-8 triage repper. i've never been a great FPS gamer so i choose to be a medic as my way of contributing and i've been a logi since i joined in Mordus private trials, addmitedly as i've gotten better at the game i've branched out and i'm a capable assault or heavy as well now but if it comes to PC i'll always fall back to my logi roots running after the same 2 guys in their heavy suits that i've done so for the past 2yrs lol
perhaps triage points could do with dropping from 25wp a cycle but i'm sure the squad commisions have been removed so logis do earn less points now running around the field than you used to
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Clone D
Grundstein Automation
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Posted - 2014.12.30 23:19:00 -
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PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Clone, this statement and many others are entirely incorrect.
If its so simpleton like, why are logis constantly targeted with extreme prejudice? (including me)
It is merely a provocative opinion. I am friends with several logis and I don't have a problem with logis. When I compare what I have to do to make massive points as a logi to what I have to do to make the most points I can as a shooter, then the amount of work and skills required just don't add up to the 7k logi payouts. I thought I would bring it up to you guys and see what you had to say about the matter.
Ultimately, I want to see foot soldiers have the ability to earn as many warpoints as logis using standard soldiering practices.
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postapo wastelander
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
862
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Posted - 2014.12.30 23:28:00 -
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Clone D wrote:Logi is a simpleton's role, yet it is capable of reaping the most WP and acquiring large payouts.
I have played logi with one hand on the controller while talking on the phone for the entire match and ranked #1 with virtually no effort whatsoever. Those who can't do, logi. How hard is it to drop a couple of hives and latch on to a heavy, occasionally picking him up?
Whereas, when I devote my concentration to tactical attack plans, and adaptive execution of those plans, it requires much more intense concentration, soldiering ability and knowhow and yet it is not rewarded very well with WP payout.
Why is the easy logi role rewarded so much WP (logis can easily top 7000 WP in a battle), while the more intense foot soldier role is rewarded so little (foot soldiers top out in about the 3500 WP range)?
U are just Troll my friend or honestly bad about thinking some ideas.
You thinking you are only one who thinking tacticaly on battlefield?
No you are not.
People who devoted their playstyle to support should have reward basicaly stated on their behaviour on the field.
End of story.
"We build from rust"
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1834
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Posted - 2014.12.30 23:32:00 -
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Clone D wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Clone, this statement and many others are entirely incorrect.
If its so simpleton like, why are logis constantly targeted with extreme prejudice? (including me) It is merely a provocative opinion. I am friends with several logis and I don't have a problem with logis. When I compare what I have to do to make massive points as a logi to what I have to do to make the most points I can as a shooter, then the amount of work and skills required just don't add up to the 7k logi payouts. I thought I would bring it up to you guys and see what you had to say about the matter. Ultimately, I want to see foot soldiers have the ability to earn as many warpoints as logis using standard soldiering practices.
where the hell are you getting this rubbish about 7k wp being easily obtainable by logistics.
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Starlight Burner
ROGUE RELICS
VP Gaming Alliance
54
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Posted - 2014.12.30 23:32:00 -
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postapo wastelander wrote:Clone D wrote:Logi is a simpleton's role, yet it is capable of reaping the most WP and acquiring large payouts.
I have played logi with one hand on the controller while talking on the phone for the entire match and ranked #1 with virtually no effort whatsoever. Those who can't do, logi. How hard is it to drop a couple of hives and latch on to a heavy, occasionally picking him up?
Whereas, when I devote my concentration to tactical attack plans, and adaptive execution of those plans, it requires much more intense concentration, soldiering ability and knowhow and yet it is not rewarded very well with WP payout.
Why is the easy logi role rewarded so much WP (logis can easily top 7000 WP in a battle), while the more intense foot soldier role is rewarded so little (foot soldiers top out in about the 3500 WP range)? U are just Troll my friend or honestly bad about thinking some ideas. You thinking you are only one who thinking tacticaly on battlefield? No you are not. People who devoted their playstyle to support should have reward basicaly stated on their behaviour on the field. End of story.
Personally, I agree with OP though. I mean like think about.
A logi has many many ways to get WP. In this game, your payout is determined by your WP instead of what you've personally destroyed, repaired, hacked/dehacked or assisted due to the 'shared pool payouts' bullshits.
The payouts are too shared between everyone and relies heavily on what your WP are. Which in this case, slayers typically get lower payouts when there is a logi on their team sucking up the WP.
well, you can play Logi too and earn the same amount of isk. So, what's your point you dumb ******.
Well, that is true, but I don't like the logi role. It's not fun to me, as I'd rather be the person shooting than the medic in this game (ARMA it's a different story).
I agree with the OP, as the the payouts are aimed higher towards people being a logi and supporting the team, when if you didn't have players like us, you wouldn't have a forward push most of the time.
If payouts weren't so leaved towards higher WP and a ****** as Shared isk pool, then I wouldn't be commenting or reading this post; however that's not the case here.
I agree with OP, logis get more isk payouts, I don't believe their payments from battles should be lowered, but we slayers would like to get paid for doing our part too.
Thank god for CCP Rattati!!
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Clone D
Grundstein Automation
1237
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Posted - 2014.12.30 23:42:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Clone D wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Clone, this statement and many others are entirely incorrect.
If its so simpleton like, why are logis constantly targeted with extreme prejudice? (including me) It is merely a provocative opinion. I am friends with several logis and I don't have a problem with logis. When I compare what I have to do to make massive points as a logi to what I have to do to make the most points I can as a shooter, then the amount of work and skills required just don't add up to the 7k logi payouts. I thought I would bring it up to you guys and see what you had to say about the matter. Ultimately, I want to see foot soldiers have the ability to earn as many warpoints as logis using standard soldiering practices. where the hell are you getting this rubbish about 7k wp being easily obtainable by logistics.
Experience and friends' experience. Also, there was a comment in this thread mentioning 7.5k to 8k WP payouts. Try it some time.
A shooter would have to drop 140 clones to do that. A logi just has to hold R1 for the majority of the match.
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P14GU3
Savage Bullet
976
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Posted - 2014.12.30 23:50:00 -
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Clone D wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Clone D wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Clone, this statement and many others are entirely incorrect.
If its so simpleton like, why are logis constantly targeted with extreme prejudice? (including me) It is merely a provocative opinion. I am friends with several logis and I don't have a problem with logis. When I compare what I have to do to make massive points as a logi to what I have to do to make the most points I can as a shooter, then the amount of work and skills required just don't add up to the 7k logi payouts. I thought I would bring it up to you guys and see what you had to say about the matter. Ultimately, I want to see foot soldiers have the ability to earn as many warpoints as logis using standard soldiering practices. where the hell are you getting this rubbish about 7k wp being easily obtainable by logistics. Experience and friends' experience. Also, there was a comment in this thread mentioning 7.5k to 8k WP payouts. Try it some time. A shooter would have to drop 140 clones to do that. A logi just has to hold R1 for the majority of the match.
First of all, there is a cap on triage points. Its literally impossible to gain 7k wp from just holding R1. Im a pretty decent logi and I have broke 7k like twice.. the BEST any logi in the community has done is 8k and some change, and that happens rarely. To get points like that, it has to be a hard fought battle, and you have to be the only logi on the field worth a damn.
Logis have slowly been nerfed on their WP over the years with triage caps and now bandwidth. Numbers like that are getting a LOT harder to put up. Im a fairly good logi and I rarely put up over 4k wp anymore, and thats a tough battle with a good squad. Logis and slayers are as close in WP as they have ever been with the introduction of objective defense points. Logis need some serious love, it is likely the toughest class to run right now and you are trying to nerf them more?
I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1834
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Posted - 2014.12.31 00:23:00 -
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Clone D wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Clone D wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Clone, this statement and many others are entirely incorrect.
If its so simpleton like, why are logis constantly targeted with extreme prejudice? (including me) It is merely a provocative opinion. I am friends with several logis and I don't have a problem with logis. When I compare what I have to do to make massive points as a logi to what I have to do to make the most points I can as a shooter, then the amount of work and skills required just don't add up to the 7k logi payouts. I thought I would bring it up to you guys and see what you had to say about the matter. Ultimately, I want to see foot soldiers have the ability to earn as many warpoints as logis using standard soldiering practices. where the hell are you getting this rubbish about 7k wp being easily obtainable by logistics. Experience and friends' experience. Also, there was a comment in this thread mentioning 7.5k to 8k WP payouts. Try it some time. A shooter would have to drop 140 clones to do that. A logi just has to hold R1 for the majority of the match.
my experience is being a logi for nearly 2 years now and i have never seen anyone on either side earn more than 4kwp and when that happened the shooters were only a few hundred points behind them. not saying it has never happened. i have seen 1 youtube video in that entire time for 7.5k and that was a year ago. i would say that is pretty damn far from a common occurrence.
also i searched this thread and no comments that i could see from anyone but you about seeing 7k wp payouts
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postapo wastelander
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
863
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Posted - 2014.12.31 00:27:00 -
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Starlight Burner wrote:postapo wastelander wrote:Clone D wrote:Logi is a simpleton's role, yet it is capable of reaping the most WP and acquiring large payouts.
I have played logi with one hand on the controller while talking on the phone for the entire match and ranked #1 with virtually no effort whatsoever. Those who can't do, logi. How hard is it to drop a couple of hives and latch on to a heavy, occasionally picking him up?
Whereas, when I devote my concentration to tactical attack plans, and adaptive execution of those plans, it requires much more intense concentration, soldiering ability and knowhow and yet it is not rewarded very well with WP payout.
Why is the easy logi role rewarded so much WP (logis can easily top 7000 WP in a battle), while the more intense foot soldier role is rewarded so little (foot soldiers top out in about the 3500 WP range)? U are just Troll my friend or honestly bad about thinking some ideas. You thinking you are only one who thinking tacticaly on battlefield? No you are not. People who devoted their playstyle to support should have reward basicaly stated on their behaviour on the field. End of story. Personally, I agree with OP though. I mean like think about. A logi has many many ways to get WP. In this game, your payout is determined by your WP instead of what you've personally destroyed, repaired, hacked/dehacked or assisted due to the 'shared pool payouts' bullshits. The payouts are too shared between everyone and relies heavily on what your WP are. Which in this case, slayers typically get lower payouts when there is a logi on their team sucking up the WP. well, you can play Logi too and earn the same amount of isk. So, what's your point you dumb ******.Well, that is true, but I don't like the logi role. It's not fun to me, as I'd rather be the person shooting than the medic in this game (ARMA it's a different story). I agree with the OP, as the the payouts are aimed higher towards people being a logi and supporting the team, when if you didn't have players like us, you wouldn't have a forward push most of the time. If payouts weren't so leaved towards higher WP and a ****** as Shared isk pool, then I wouldn't be commenting or reading this post; however that's not the case here. I agree with OP, logis get more isk payouts, I don't believe their payments from battles should be lowered, but we slayers would like to get paid for doing our part too.
"The payouts are aimed higher towards people being a logi and supporting the team."
Hevete it is should be, doing cooperative support is most important thing, end of story
"We build from rust"
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Clone D
Grundstein Automation
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Posted - 2014.12.31 00:42:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:[..] i searched this thread and no comments that i could see from anyone but you about seeing 7k wp payouts
Here:
Michael Epic wrote:[...]So lets say I rock 35 kills, 12 deaths and enough WP to put me in the 7500-8000 range, do I not deserve that? I busted my ass and worked for it....I stabbed, repped, boomed, fluxed and ratta tat tat'd you to death holmes #forthewin 
Michael Epic is awesome!
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1430
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Posted - 2014.12.31 00:44:00 -
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Repping gives too much WP. I can lock onto a heavy and watch the +25's just start rolling in. If he kills someone, he gets 50 and I get 35, plus he probably took some damage so I'll get 75 or 100 more. What I'm doing is important, but I am supporting, not the star, I shouldn't get so much greater reward.
Because, that's why.
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ADAM-OF-EVE
Dead Man's Game
RUST415
1840
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Posted - 2014.12.31 01:58:00 -
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Clone D wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:[..] i searched this thread and no comments that i could see from anyone but you about seeing 7k wp payouts
Here: Michael Epic wrote:[...]So lets say I rock 35 kills, 12 deaths and enough WP to put me in the 7500-8000 range, do I not deserve that? I busted my ass and worked for it....I stabbed, repped, boomed, fluxed and ratta tat tat'd you to death holmes #forthewin Michael Epic is awesome!
first 3 words..."so lets say". that whole quote doesn't say he has done it but says if he did he deserves all his wp which he would have in that situation. 1 hypothetical quote from a single player out of thousands doesn't make your case
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.12.31 02:04:00 -
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Clone D wrote: how we justify sending naked ladies
My favorite part of the post.
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Clone D
Grundstein Automation
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Posted - 2014.12.31 02:08:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:first 3 words..."so lets say". that whole quote doesn't say he has done it but says if he did he deserves all his wp which he would have in that situation. 1 hypothetical quote from a single player out of thousands doesn't make your case
How about a few posts up:
P14GU3 wrote:Im a pretty decent logi and I have broke 7k like twice.. the BEST any logi in the community has done is 8k and some change, and that happens rarely.
I do not know of any shooter role that has ever seen 7k while strictly playing his/her role.
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Infine Sentinel
Better Hide R Die
753
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Posted - 2014.12.31 02:30:00 -
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Clone D wrote:(foot soldiers top out in about the 3500 WP range)?
Wha.... What slayer manages that?
Local forum Cannibal.
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Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1187
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Posted - 2014.12.31 02:48:00 -
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Clone D wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Clone D wrote:Build a cheaper suit.
'Valor' Logistics M-1
'Dren' Assault Rifle
Nanohive
KIN-012 Nanite Injector
BDR-2 Repair Tool
Militia Shield Extender Blueprint (x2)
Militia Armor Plates Blueprint (x2)
It will cost a little bit more without the BPO, but it is highly effective and cheap. I'm sure you could measure the diminishing returns of a proto suit over std/adv gear by performing a benefit/cost analysis. If you are going to post a fitting, post one without BPOs. Assume we are not willing to spend AUR. Also, make it in protofits so we know it would have the required CPU/PG. Also, two armor plates? You'll have eHP and move like a turtle on Valium. Logis are already slow to begin with. This fitting would get annihilated while attempting to rep anyone. I have used that fitting to rank #1 on several occasions. Modify it as you see fit, but the point is that you can make an effective logi suit for less than 90k ISK.
Care to try again without using Blueprints?
CB Vet // True Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
Learning Coalition and RTG Mentor
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
1432
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Posted - 2014.12.31 02:59:00 -
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WP envy got Bandwidth implemented, no doubt it will get logis nerfed.
Because, that's why.
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P14GU3
Savage Bullet
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Posted - 2014.12.31 03:11:00 -
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Clone D wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:first 3 words..."so lets say". that whole quote doesn't say he has done it but says if he did he deserves all his wp which he would have in that situation. 1 hypothetical quote from a single player out of thousands doesn't make your case How about a few posts up: P14GU3 wrote:Im a pretty decent logi and I have broke 7k like twice.. the BEST any logi in the community has done is 8k and some change, and that happens rarely. I do not know of any shooter role that has ever seen 7k while strictly playing his/her role.
I know personally, my records are pre triage-cap/bandwidth. It is extremely difficult to break even 5k wp as a logi now. If you see someone break 5k, they were either boosting or having the game of their life (figuratively.)
Like I said, logi points are much more in line with slayers now. Triage points may still be a tad too much, but if they drop them, the cap needs to disappear as well.
I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
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Kaze Eyrou
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1189
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Posted - 2014.12.31 03:25:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Clone D wrote:Logi is a simpleton's role I know someone who won't be getting repped or resupplied anytime soon.
I think we need some slight gameplay changes to remind me...  
CB Vet // True Logi Bro // @KazeEyrou
Learning Coalition and RTG Mentor
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TritusX
PH4NT0M5
76
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Posted - 2014.12.31 03:35:00 -
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Clone D wrote:Patrick57 wrote:killers get kills to show for their work. logis get wp. What's the problem here? Well, for one, WP directly influences SP, so this grants a character development advantage to one role over another.
Logi's need the WP for the outrageous SP investment???
Let the blood drip from my knife onto your wound that gapes from- wait there's no gore or blood in this game nvm
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Clone D
Grundstein Automation
1248
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Posted - 2014.12.31 03:59:00 -
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Kaze Eyrou wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Clone D wrote:Logi is a simpleton's role I know someone who won't be getting repped or resupplied anytime soon. I think we need some slight gameplay changes to remind me...
Ha ha ha. As if my team were working in my favor. I am used to playing both against the opponents as well as against my own team, while attempting to provide some level of support to them regardless of their disregard for team mates.
ISK Trader
channel: blitz
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