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P14GU3
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Posted - 2014.12.30 23:50:00 -
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Clone D wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:Clone D wrote:PARKOUR PRACTIONER wrote:Clone, this statement and many others are entirely incorrect.
If its so simpleton like, why are logis constantly targeted with extreme prejudice? (including me) It is merely a provocative opinion. I am friends with several logis and I don't have a problem with logis. When I compare what I have to do to make massive points as a logi to what I have to do to make the most points I can as a shooter, then the amount of work and skills required just don't add up to the 7k logi payouts. I thought I would bring it up to you guys and see what you had to say about the matter. Ultimately, I want to see foot soldiers have the ability to earn as many warpoints as logis using standard soldiering practices. where the hell are you getting this rubbish about 7k wp being easily obtainable by logistics. Experience and friends' experience. Also, there was a comment in this thread mentioning 7.5k to 8k WP payouts. Try it some time. A shooter would have to drop 140 clones to do that. A logi just has to hold R1 for the majority of the match.
First of all, there is a cap on triage points. Its literally impossible to gain 7k wp from just holding R1. Im a pretty decent logi and I have broke 7k like twice.. the BEST any logi in the community has done is 8k and some change, and that happens rarely. To get points like that, it has to be a hard fought battle, and you have to be the only logi on the field worth a damn.
Logis have slowly been nerfed on their WP over the years with triage caps and now bandwidth. Numbers like that are getting a LOT harder to put up. Im a fairly good logi and I rarely put up over 4k wp anymore, and thats a tough battle with a good squad. Logis and slayers are as close in WP as they have ever been with the introduction of objective defense points. Logis need some serious love, it is likely the toughest class to run right now and you are trying to nerf them more?
I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
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P14GU3
Savage Bullet
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Posted - 2014.12.31 03:11:00 -
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Clone D wrote:ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:first 3 words..."so lets say". that whole quote doesn't say he has done it but says if he did he deserves all his wp which he would have in that situation. 1 hypothetical quote from a single player out of thousands doesn't make your case How about a few posts up: P14GU3 wrote:Im a pretty decent logi and I have broke 7k like twice.. the BEST any logi in the community has done is 8k and some change, and that happens rarely. I do not know of any shooter role that has ever seen 7k while strictly playing his/her role.
I know personally, my records are pre triage-cap/bandwidth. It is extremely difficult to break even 5k wp as a logi now. If you see someone break 5k, they were either boosting or having the game of their life (figuratively.)
Like I said, logi points are much more in line with slayers now. Triage points may still be a tad too much, but if they drop them, the cap needs to disappear as well.
I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
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P14GU3
Savage Bullet
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Posted - 2014.12.31 10:22:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:80% of logi job now is to hold R1 and sometimes pick up that fat ass in front of you.
Lets be honest, thats how it looks.
At the same time, i'm not saying that slaying is that much harder. But it requires more thinking.
Ps. Logi job isn't the hardest one.
For eg. Scout that needs to break through enemy lines and sabotage them needs to work harder than logi.
Also logi requires just as much sp investment as scout does.
TROLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL. Did this guy just say scout was the hardest class? Excuse me for a sec...
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!
Ok im better. For a sec I thought this guy said that easy-mode scouts with their built in wallhacks and near undetectable status was hard-mode..
Wait, what? He did say that?
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Im now officially done with this thread. Argueing with clueless people is just a waste of my time...
I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
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P14GU3
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Posted - 2014.12.31 20:10:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:Vaibhav Ganesh wrote:Mejt0 wrote:80% of logi job now is to hold R1 and sometimes pick up that fat ass in front of you.
Lets be honest, thats how it looks.
At the same time, i'm not saying that slaying is that much harder. But it requires more thinking.
Ps. Logi job isn't the hardest one.
For eg. Scout that needs to break through enemy lines and sabotage them needs to work harder than logi.
Also logi requires just as much sp investment as scout does. Nah sis, u r wrong. I made a perfect fit with 6 million sp fr scouts while fr a logi even 10 mill aint enough Amount of SP needed to fulfil scout role [in this case Minja], [i'll add everything].. and here's the number : 17,716,202 sp. That's without counting prof skill, armor plate/reps upgrades, other eq, some other skills to fully fulfil that role [like swarms for AV]. Ps. Skills that i counted to achive this amount of sp : Dropsuit Command > Minmatar Light > Minmatar Scout Dropsuit Upgrades > Armor/Shields Upgrades > Shields Extenders > Biotics > KinCat > Core Upgrades > Cloak > Uplinks > Electronics [all components] > Engineering > Hacking > Weaponry > Explosives > Grenadier [lvl 1] > Light/Sidearm operation > CR > NK >
I was over 20m SP before I completed all my cores, plus weapon/modules and equipment for my logi. Logi suits have more slots than any other class. My PC fit logi costs about 220k, my PC scout? about 180k. So 40k difference per death. I die WAY more in my logi. Like I said, scouts are easy mode. Cloak, flank, and destroy. If you can't win with a scout you need to find another game...
Edit: you are also using the worst scout. Get in a GK.0 and tell me its not easy mode.
I only play dust514ums now. It was always more fun than the actual game anyways.
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