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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2014.12.30 16:53:00 -
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Clone D wrote:Logi is a simpleton's role, yet it is capable of reaping the most WP and acquiring large payouts.
I have played logi with one hand on the controller while talking on the phone for the entire match and ranked #1 with virtually no effort whatsoever. Those who can't do, logi. How hard is it to drop a couple of hives and latch on to a heavy, occasionally picking him up?
Whereas, when I devote my concentration to tactical attack plans, and adaptive execution of those plans, it requires much more intense concentration, soldiering ability and knowhow and yet it is not rewarded very well with WP payout.
Why is the easy logi role rewarded so much WP (logis can easily top 7000 WP in a battle), while the more intense foot soldier role is rewarded so little (foot soldiers top out in about the 3500 WP range)?
I'd like to echo Ripley and say that I know somebody who wont be getting picked up, ammo, or reps. I hope you run heavy.
Us logis are the thing that keep d-bags like you alive, stocked up on ammo, picked up, and sometimes give you decent spots to spawn. Being a logi can be very difficult, let me remind you. You said you played logi. Remember when you weren't in squad and were repping a blueberry heavy that was f*cking clueless as to where the enemy was, and you were yelling "Hey, you dope, the enemies are over that way!" at the tv? He continued to walk around, you still repping him, and you kept losing him and the stream kept getting broken up because he cut corners and jumped down without warning, and yet you still repped him. How about when you repped the heavy (regardless of whether or not you were in squad), and while you repped him, you were trying to avoid being killed, because other heavies and infantry targeted the logis first? It's hard not to die in those cases, but somehow you and your heavy pulled through.
I can see you're butthurt because you arent doing as well as those of us who keep a**holes like you alive. Before you come on the forums and show all of us logis that you are indeed butthurt, take time to remember every single time a logi has done something for you and thank us.
Dont get mad, gets reps and shoot sh*t. :) Well, not you because you wont be getting any...nevermind.
"Nothing + Nothing = Nothing. Now eat your bribery...err...I mean your breakfast, son." - Fred G. Sanford
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2014.12.30 17:02:00 -
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Clone D wrote: I am addressing this topic from a standpoint of having played all of the roles, and wondering how we justify sending naked ladies to deliver WP to logis on a silver platter for doing low intensity support jobs.
Wow. The award for extra douchey comment of 2014 goes to Clone D! *golf clap*
"Nothing + Nothing = Nothing. Now eat your bribery...err...I mean your breakfast, son." - Fred G. Sanford
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2014.12.30 22:09:00 -
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ADAM-OF-EVE wrote:shooter get too much wp for that they do.
they should get 5wp for killing mlt with their proto weapon
and 50 for killing a proto with their mlt weapon
using proto against mlt is just too easy wp farming
There's no way to adjust that for each weapon. There has to be a universal point for killing a person, and that is 50. You need to conform to the battlefield, players, & situations.
"Nothing + Nothing = Nothing. Now eat your bribery...err...I mean your breakfast, son." - Fred G. Sanford
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Aiwha Bait
Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2014.12.30 22:20:00 -
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Twelve Guage wrote:Clone D wrote:Twelve Guage wrote:Clone D wrote:Separate topic: Free market values should determine the cost of goods in order to make a deeper game system. And how do you think making your suit the same price as my's is a separate topic. This goes hand and hand with the isk factor in this game which is tied to guess what how many war points you get in a game. My opinion on the cost of goods relates to what players are willing to pay for goods in a free market system. If we had to bid against each other for limited goods, then it would add much more weight to the fittings creation process and add weight to the prospect of a clone's death. My opinion is that the cost of goods should be driven by what truly motivates a player to become embroiled in the world of Dust. One person wants the most powerful gear and would be willing to pay top dollar for it. The next person may simply want to casually participate in a low cost setting. The scarcity of items would drive the cost, based on the mining of minerals in the EVE universe, but that is another long discussion. This is not an answer to my question and you know it. Wp contribute to isk made in game. Logi work contributes to WP. Why should you be paid more for only pointing and shooting at red dots. When a logi has to worry about where to put their equipment , is it really a good ideal to run out and pick someone up, this person I'm repping why are they still running at the emery with one forth of theirs heath, hey I need some reps is there any other logi's around, and getting gunned down by every suit out there with extreme prejudice because everyone know they are and easy kill. Oh and lets not for get my personal favorite realizing your the only logi on the team so now you really have to think three steps a head or risk having your teamed red-lined or spawn camped. The risk that logi's have to take just to get those point far out weighs the risk any other suit has to take because our suit are more expense. So please do try answer my questions again but this time put a bit more thought into it.
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"Nothing + Nothing = Nothing. Now eat your bribery...err...I mean your breakfast, son." - Fred G. Sanford
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Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2014.12.31 15:38:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:80% of logi job now is to hold R1 and sometimes pick up that fat ass in front of you.
Lets be honest, thats how it looks.
At the same time, i'm not saying that slaying is that much harder. But it requires more thinking.
Ps. Logi job isn't the hardest one.
For eg. Scout that needs to break through enemy lines and sabotage them needs to work harder than logi.
Also logi requires just as much sp investment as scout does.
But we have to keep up with the heavies, avoid getting shot (as everybody shoots the logi first), know when & where to drop equipment, know when & where to pick people up.
And Logi requires a hell of a lot more SP investment than scout. :) Nanocircuitry, tool, needle, suit, armor modules, and electronics & engineering. Might have missed a few things though.
"Nothing + Nothing = Nothing. Now eat your bribery...err...I mean your breakfast, son." - Fred G. Sanford
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Demonic Cowboys
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Posted - 2014.12.31 15:53:00 -
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Orion Sanjeet wrote:Clone D wrote:abdullah muzaffar wrote:...Do you even know how expensive logisuits are? Even my adv suit costs 95k, and thats cause i sacrifice hp, speed, and offense just to support my team. It is always the logi that gets shot down first, and the one to receive the least help. Build a cheaper suit. I can easily rank #1 with an 8460 ISK Triage fitting: 'Valor' Logistics M-1 'Dren' Assault Rifle nanohive KIN-012 Nanite Injector BDR-2 Repair Tool Militia Shield Extender Blueprint (x2) Militia Armor Plates Blueprint (x2) It will cost a little bit more without the BPO, but it is highly effective and cheap. I'm sure you could measure the diminishing returns of a proto suit over std/adv gear by performing a benefit/cost analysis. If that is your suit, just stay in your merc quarters cause you aren't helping anyone. Proto hives, links, and rep tool or bust, on the suit you can skimp, but not the gear.
Yep. Totally agree. You're not doing jack sh*t with that BDR-2, and standard hives. Proto suit for maximum equipment slots (but that equals more logi WPs, so ignore if you want). Six Kin tool for 2 streams (i.e. more WP, but since you're against logis getting so many WPs, you may wanna ignore that), basic needle (more to rep when you pick up the fallen comrade (More WPs, but again ignore because of what you believe), and you should carry Wyrikomi-thingy rep hives and Ishukone ammo hives (again, maximizing logi WPs, but ignore since you hate us). So if you implement all those changes, you're set to become the greatest godd*mn logi in New Eden. Unfortunately, because of your utter hate and douche baggery, you wont use these tips to be a better logi. :/ Your loss.
"Nothing + Nothing = Nothing. Now eat your bribery...err...I mean your breakfast, son." - Fred G. Sanford
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