You are right about that, but I'll argue that finding a way to force corps to reach for their team C and D is vital to introducing more players into PC.

If you don't address that it'll just bring back more of the elites and they'll just pistol whip everyone again. Without the ability to lock or work around the mechanics it'll just be the same dudes bitching about being tired of fighting each other every night.

Modules will only work while the Corporations have a strong enough membership of real players (no alts), as measured by Loyalty Ranks or be gated in construction by membership, making it necessary to go out and recruit and train new players to get to the upper echelon of power.

One question I have is will you be able to trade BPOs, Boosters, and Salvage boxes?

Are certain items going to be untradeable?

i have almost 600 boxes... i need over 300k AUR to open them all. that over $150

The right veteran player defecting could have a pretty substantial impact on the war machine power of a corporation.

+1

A few quicks thoughts. Sorry if it has been mentioned before as this is a pretty long thread.

Outside of ideological reasons I think a lot of wars are fought over resources i.e you lack something you need or want something somebody else has.

Now to avoid nap fests going on too long you can limit the amount of resources that can be derived from a given district by gradually reducing the amount of it available until you hit a minimum baseline. This would result in a weakness that others can exploit, particularly if you link resource consumption to battles. The more fights in your district, even if you win, will result in repairs needing to be made and disruption to production. This could allow small corps or even individuals into Sovereign wars as they could be used for hit and run tactics, smash and grabs, and espionage to test out or even create instability into the system.

Also resource reduction will result in these static corps moving onto greener pastures. Once this district has changed hands the new corp could use new "methods" to gradually increase production to where it was before it gradually declines again.

With large corps employing small, deniable asset, corps in a low intensity war with sovereign nations will eventually lead to all out large scale conflicts because those nations will only see their resources being depleted through equipment loss etc. These small corps could also use low cost militia gear attacks with the intent to damage production and equipment with little Isk cost to them. This way the small corps can stay profitable because their costs are very limited and the big corp/nation can employ lots of them to attack districts etc.

Within district attacks you could even reduce it to attacking specific building e.g the building where the corp stores some or a lot of their tanks which could then be destroyed or even stolen, though more likely to steal dropsuits, weapons , modules or even the resource being produced.

I think it would be interesting to have specific skills available that would allow a player to increase resources that could be derived from that district making them particulary valuable to corps who want to hold districts even to the point of hiring them away from their current corps or skills like sabotage/high explosives to allow players to create a disproportionate amount of damage in sneak or hit and run campaigns.

Hopefully these possibilities would result in a more fluid battle environment.

Requiring a corporation to field multiple teams opens the doors for more people to participate out of necessity.

Before entering into any sort of systems design. My one piece of feedback would be:

What is the incentive to own a district?

It's never taken more than 10 or so losses for most corps to fold. Then players go to either a new 30 day corp, the corp that kicked their ass, or to a corp they think can kick the ass of the corp that kicked theirs.

If you were to announce that Skirmish 1.0 would be re-implemented as the battle type for PC battles, I would -at that moment- go out right then, buy a 100$ PSN card, spend it all on Dust, resub my EVE account, and immediately start recruitment for You Can Call Me Daddy to step into the PC scene.

You've made multiple jabs at my corp in this thread.

I got bored poking fun at Nyain San months ago.

I expect it'll be another one in a month or two, suck it up, buttercup.

Agreed, but if upgrading districts at this stage happened it may lock everything down. I think they should be careful until there's more participation in PC.

All these things sound great, but I can't help thinking about AE or TP having 40 districts fully upgraded with beast mode warbarges. Without the current timer mechanics being changed up these things will seemingly lead to more thorough ass whippings by small elite groups.

Buttercup, that's cute Pencildick.

Why would a dude from goonfeet (perhaps the most irrelevant corp in Dust's history) who admits to tanking pub matches solely focused on killing vehicles feel compelled to poke fun at any corp?

That's like a dude driving a beat up 20 year old Saturn making fun of person's new Corvette.

Requiring a corporation to have to field multiple teams removes most of the corporations (except Molon Labe) from being able to participate.



We've definitely discussed that heavily with CCP. Obviously the information presented in this road map is not all-inclusive of every feature change we've discussed so far. However, giving more explanation to the concepts on the roadmap allow us to discuss those more freely within the context of upcoming features.



That's a huge reason why building some sort of loyalty to your corporation and allowing a corporation to be more than just "some people with the same name displayed under their profile" is key.

To some degree, I can't sympathize for poorly-built corps. Many Top Men corps have experienced like... a hundred lost matches, but still stick together.



The point is, after like two years of CCP answering this question, players haven't figured out it isn't happening. Skirmish 1.0 is fundamentally incompatible with like... the entire game. This ranks somewhere around asking for a pony for Christmas.

@Community

Another thing I strongly encourage the playerbase to do is to also come up with their own ideas as well revolving around the base concepts of these ideas.

Presented here is a foundation; there time to build on it still and the final design has not happened yet it is still mostly all on paper and you guys have the chance to heavily influence that.

For example the war barge does not have to be so tied down into PC that it cannot be an asset enjoyed elsewhere. It could be upgraded to support non pC actions such as FW or Pubs even.

I mean what if the personal ship doesn't start out as a barge but the barges become something more synonymous to titans of eve online; the highest end personal goal you can set for yourself being a daunting task to upgrade to that size and you're starting with a war junker the size of a slightly larger mcc.

One question I have is will you be able to trade BPOs, Boosters, and Salvage boxes?

Are certain items going to be untradeable?

That is a key goal of allowing people to generate clone packs through tho system. To reduce the entry barrier significantly.

The point is, after like two years of CCP answering this question, players haven't figured out it isn't happening. Skirmish 1.0 is fundamentally incompatible with like... the entire game. This ranks somewhere around asking for a pony for Christmas.

The point is, after like two years of CCP answering this question, players haven't figured out it isn't happening. Skirmish 1.0 is fundamentally incompatible with like... the entire game. This ranks somewhere around asking for a pony for Christmas.