Just glad that you good people have a clearer idea of what some of the terms in the roadmap Trello now mean.

One of the things I'm most looking forward to is a greater sense of being in a Corporation that these features should help usher in. It's always been my hope that a stronger feeling of brotherhood, for lack of a better term, be created and easily maintained by CEO and directors.

One of my biggest annoyances about the PC mechanic as it was and still is at the moment, is the fact it was largely an elite few fighting for their own gain and not contributing to the larger corperation membership. Stronger corps in the game are the silver bullet when it comes to player retention. New UI such as corp adverts and finders should help tell new players about player run corps and the benefits they have over the NPC ones.

I know I'm speaking for the rest of the CPM when I say we're looking forward to your feedback on all this.

1. PC districts are attacked and then the timer counts down which can be 1 day and 12hrs and 37min to battle

2. For all you know that is how long it takes to organize the clones in the warbarge and move to the attacking district

In my opinion making these attackable in Eve would be a TERRIBLE idea. There's just not enough interest overall for there to be the type of Eve support necessary to protect such assets.

You'd end up needing every single Dust interested Eve pilot fighting together to make PC possible.

At the same time talent pooling is a very real and problematic part of planetary conquest even today. One of my concerns is that by giving 'corp-wide' bonuses to compel people into corps you could very well end up with a stronger incentive for the 'elite' to all just aggregate into one super corp.

If you give the things the HP of a POCO, and all attacking it will do is put it into reinforced (offline bonuses), it will provide an option of EVE-side of Dust/EVE Alliance to disrupt operations, but not making it "worth it" for random douches to be interested.

Frankly, even I wouldn't grind that HP and I'm the rare breed that actually cares about EVE/Dust support. But at least there's a actual object that expands on the connection between games.

At the same time talent pooling is a very real and problematic part of planetary conquest even today. One of my concerns is that by giving 'corp-wide' bonuses to compel people into corps you could very well end up with a stronger incentive for the 'elite' to all just aggregate into one super corp.

That is a shared concern.

But what has been described so far is very much a generalisation of the warbarge concept. There is more depth to it but it's for CCP to speak more to that when they're ready.

Let me put it this way, my general dissatisfaction with the mechanic and the increasingly large amounts of player burnout that PC brought with it, is what caused me to pull D-UNI out of it. I'm actually considering a return to Molden Heath once this all goes live because I believe it will benefit player retention and increase the number of corps fighting PC, not diminish it.

It seems like it would make much more sense for Warbarges to be a corp owned asset and have these personal bonuses be something that applies to your merc quarters. When you join a corporation you then can move your merc quarters aboard the corp-owned barge.

While I agree that a metric to measure actual activity would be very useful for removing, at least somewhat , blatant alt corporations and related shenanigans from planetary conquest, for what it's worth. I would entreat you to not confuse the current loyalty rank system with such a metric. Implementing a minimum required activity level for a corporation to enter PC will fail massively as a way to say, stop people from creating alt corporations to lock districts with, if the mechanic can be easily spoofed by just spending a handful of aurum... Particularly when, with the implementation of simple trading, any AUR spent on items on even a completely throw away alt isn't even wasted.

While I agree that a metric to measure actual activity would be very useful for removing, at least somewhat , blatant alt corporations and related shenanigans from planetary conquest, for what it's worth. I would entreat you to not confuse the current loyalty rank system with such a metric. Implementing a minimum required activity level for a corporation to enter PC will fail massively as a way to say, stop people from creating alt corporations to lock districts with, if the mechanic can be easily spoofed by just spending a handful of aurum... Particularly when, with the implementation of simple trading, any AUR spent on items on even a completely throw away alt isn't even wasted.

Modules will only work while the Corporations have a strong enough membership of real players (no alts), as measured by Loyalty Ranks or be gated in construction by membership, making it necessary to go out and recruit and train new players to get to the upper echelon of power. This may be done through the introduction of Corporation Rank as the defining metric for Corporation eligibility and power.

Wait.

Loyalty ranks are the defining metric of corporation power?
I seriously hope this is not the case. Loyalty ranks are based almost entirely on the amount of AUR you've purchased. This is directly linking strength to how much money you've spent on the game.

CCP went back and forth on the subject of Warbarges for some time.

They wanted to make them invulnerable to Eve attack, then they talked of timers like a POS, the argument was made that vulnerable Warbages wouldn't last long in Eve as all the pilots would pwn them just because.

Then it was pushed back and forgotten.

Glad to see Rat looking at them again, no matter what the use tactically... as a Corp Social Asset it still holds a lot of value.

And this is pretty much the reason why "Loyalty" Ranks, as they are, should not be involved into any actual meaningful mechanic in the game. Some of us did raise concerns over amounts of aurum spent being (intentionally) cofused with activity levels in the first place...

What happened to legion?
Dust on the ps4/pc should be on the road map if legion fell through the cracks..

It appears that I'll have to be very diligent in this thread. PC discussion always get lost in complex issues when the number one concern should be, "How do we get thousands and thousands of players involved instead of hundreds?".

More than 16v16 matches

Not sure if that alone would push those not currently involved to jump into the mix plus I'm highly skeptical of the game performing well on this hardware with any additional players per match.

Yea, the PS3's would probably melt or the game would need TiDi, lol.

However, it would promote mass recruitment, or, rather, push people to #sMERGE corps. ;)

While I agree that a metric to measure actual activity would be very useful for removing, at least somewhat , blatant alt corporations and related shenanigans from planetary conquest, for what it's worth. I would entreat you to not confuse the current loyalty rank system with such a metric. Implementing a minimum required activity level for a corporation to enter PC will fail massively as a way to say, stop people from creating alt corporations to lock districts with, if the mechanic can be easily spoofed by just spending a handful of aurum... Particularly when, with the implementation of simple trading, any AUR spent on items on even a completely throw away alt isn't even wasted.

While I would love to see War Barges be something that EVE players can interact with, I think it is unnecessary at this point in the design phase. We need War Barges to work properly before we let people blow them up, you know?

Dear players

Phase One
We will allow players to build and upgrade their personal Warbarges, as you are no mere grunts now. These huge warships become the center of your powerbase. You will be able to upgrade the Warbarge itself, and invest in valuable modules for the warbarge, that provide the player bonuses, and upgrade the modules as well. The first feedback threads will be about these modules and their bonuses, so better put your thinking caps on. Empowering the player to invest in something meaningful and persistent is a very exciting concept and is necessary as the foundation for further development.

About time this will be implemented.

Phase Two
We want to allow Corporations to be measured on their collective Warbarge Fleets. The Corporation will then be able to invest in power structure/umbrella that either increases the power of each individual Warbarge module or grants brand new bonuses to the Corporation, tentatively called Warbarge Command. Modules will only work while the Corporations have a strong enough membership of real players (no alts), as measured by Loyalty Ranks or be gated in construction by membership, making it necessary to go out and recruit and train new players to get to the upper echelon of power. This may be done through the introduction of Corporation Rank as the defining metric for Corporation eligibility and power. The lynchpin to this step is the introduction of the Warbarge Clone Vats Module (name TBD) where Clonepacks can be built with regular intervals, allowing Corporations without Districts to launch relatively risk free attacks on Districts. These attacks should be initiated from a list of Districts, displaying Timers, Clones, Corporation and other useful statistics and not from the Starmap itself. Finally, we are working on a different reward method for Planetary Conquest, primarily based on the simple premis of GÇ£you get what you destroyedGÇ¥. Combined with a minimum Corporation Rank to initiate attacks, we may see the end of district-locking and exploits in 2015. We may also reduce the available Timers and/or set Districts to fixed Timers that canGÇÖt be changed.

When you say fleets, does that mean a corp can own more than one warbarge? Going with that, will a corp need multiple barges to attack multiple districts, or would it be one barge per planet?

Phase Three
This step would be to combine Warbarge Fleets and ownership of Districts, making Districts the crux of any powerful Corporation.

Does not compute in my brain. Not saying you wrote it bad, I just don't get it.

Phase Four
Introduce a secondary reason to claim, own and harvest Districts by introducing a resource in New Eden, only found and claimed by DUST Mercenaries. Launching attacks on other Corporation Warbarges is an exciting concept but not a priority to discuss now. Allowing Corporations to host their own challenge matches is also an intriguing concept. And thatGÇÖs all we can share on our vision for Planetary Conquest at the moment.

Does that literally mean fighting inside a warbarge? I know that's probably more than a year down the road from today, but if so, that would be an awesome experience. It could be done like Skirmish 1.0, wherein the attacking team has to advance through the ship, taking the barracks, engineering, intelligence, and helm, probably also hacking CRUs along the way, but once those main areas are captured, defenders can't get them back. Essentially attackers take them offline, needing a big engineering team to repair them.

Reintroduction of removed content

Vehicles please

User Experience
Market Experience and Fitting
That may mean tweaks to the Market and Fitting, such as recently adding the Scanning Attributes to the fitting screen, Displaying Metalevels etc. These could be the GÇ£restock toGÇ¥ function, better sorting, more information etc.

There's the 3000m scanning range bug to fix.

Simple Trading
This is of course the long wanted feature of Player to Player trading. The minimum feature is basically click an Item in Assets, and select GÇ£send item toGÇ¥ and GÇ£QTYGÇ¥ from the context UI.

Will this be done with gifting, trading items for items, items for ISK, possibly AUR? I have a bunch of officer weapons I'm not going to skill into, and I wouldn't mind getting rid of them for a good value. But if vehicles are worth it, I'll be getting rid of them all to go full pilot.

Battle Quality
Under this Story we have multiple things we want to iterate on, but primarily matchmaking/academy and minimizing player downtime. One of the iterations we are actively working on is GÇ£donGÇÖt put me in battles that are effectively overGÇ¥.

Battles that are done, yes. The battle academy needs to be extended to at least 25k WP, preferably 50k. The new players we're getting are a poor bunch, and it seems like Dust is their very first shooter, having no experience with any others.

Recruiting Tools
We have set up three main features, the Corp Finder where Corporations advertise themselves, the Merc Finder where Mercenaries advertise themselves, and New Player Finder where CEOGÇÖs and Recruiters can find and invite Players that are in NPC corps, with an opt-out for Players to be in that list. We will try to develop each of them in an order that makes sense technically.

This is good.

Achievements/Medals/Merits for both Players and Corporations are also ranked high on the Roadmap for us to work on.

This is kinda lame, as it could get the game closer to a Call of Duty experience. I never saw anybody ask for the loyalty ranks, especially putting what rank they are in the killfeed. The biggest problem with that is that you only turn off your own loyalty rank, instead of for everybody. It adds unnecessary clutter, when you need to quickly see who was killed with what.

It appears that I'll have to be very diligent in this thread. PC discussion always get lost in complex issues when the number one concern should be, "How do we get thousands and thousands of players involved instead of hundreds?".