Can I collect a bit of feedback here:

For each person:
- Do you like the new scope or not?
- Are you using a DS3 or a KB&M?

Can I collect a bit of feedback here:

For each person:
- Do you like the new scope or not?
- Are you using a DS3 or a KB&M?

Once in a great while, the entire enemy team is comprised of militia fit lemmings. It only takes a few of these guys perpetually spawning in and standing still to get that kind of score. What I'm doubting is if his score would have been anywhere close to that against an equally matched team with the new circle where it's required to hit constantly moving targets 2-4 times each.

I doubt this.

The new circle changes very little against stationary targets.

WRONG.

Target moves inside your cross hair.. wait for it to turn red.. otherwise blindfire and there's a decent chance you'll just miss.

I'm not wasting the charge time / bullets on misses. Sorry.

An enemy can be inside your cross hair, but not actually in your line of fire. It's god awful. Meaning you either guess on the correction you need to make, or apply some correction and wait for your cross hair to change color to red.

PRIOR TO THIS

If your dot was on someone. You would hit them. No need to wait for color change indication.

Without an accurate fixed point in the center, you're guessing. Especially when it comes to moving targets, and moving head shots.

Ok. Not all of them. But.

Give me 1 solution to prevent Sentiniels with snipers. They drop a hive with other suit and sit there with 1,8k ehp (1k tanked suits are also a problem)

You cant say that OB is a solution.
Nor is the ADS as you wont have egnouth time to fly in/out while shooting him.
Nor is counter snipe as it would take more than few headshoots to hurt them.

It's not precision enough. The circle on the crosshair isn't precise. Either shrinking the circle or adding vertical and horizontal crosshair lines to help to precisely aim the center at something would help a lot.

Its as before, in terms of aiming.
Its even better that old dot.

Target runs inside your circle, shoot. Simple as that.
It doesnt make any problems at range of 100m or at 500m range.

So whats up with that whining that you cant shoot a guy becuse you dont know wheres the center of circle? Cmon. Seriusly?

This aim-cross is distraction, and it is completely useless one.. Look, you can aim at someone, aim-cross will became red to tell you that you are clearly aiming at someone, but you will not be able to tell if you are aiming at his head without double checking target Intel(Not to even mention that target may be in move).

It was stupid ideas to implement this aim-cross to ALL sniper rifles at once, we could test it on one variant and give objective feedback - now we are forced to use it whether we want it or not for at least month.

They overreact.

Nothing is perfect. And CCP will probably fix it in Delta.

Hi Symbiotic,

i can answer this one.
I did get a good round, it was the map that looks like a launchpad, enemy team had the objective and were focused entirely on keeping it. although they weren't all militia fits there were quite alot of scouts and assaults with probably 3 or 4 heavies in total.

yes i was tagging them 2-3 times a piece (the heavies) and shooting through gaps in cover etc, but the other suits were mostly ohk due to headshots..

but if they hadn't been all together at the point, under pressure from the other blues for most of the round and if they had been sprinting through wider spaces then it wouldn't of been as good at all.

(we won on clone count in the end.)

also it's still hideously unbalanced at pc level.

Howdidhekillme,
it was a good round though wasn't it
between the two of us over 80 kills..

Feedback:
no not a fan of the new scope, if it was smaller i think it would be fine. but as it is it's too inaccurate on moving targets, they can be in the circle and you can see the shot hit the wall behind them.

I use ds3 controller

It's those kind of rounds that make me think... I don't suck, and it's just well organized, squads of proto, that made learning and playing this game solo so hard. NPE is horrible. And skilled snipers willing to get close enuf to do max damage are scary as hell.

Snake I was impressed

No. (It's stupidly inaccurate for moving targets / moving head shots / CS'ing headglitchers / cluttered)
DS3 (KB/M lowers reaction time for self defense)

As a DuelShock 3 user I'm finding the scope to be a lot more fun ie I can now do headshots!

Now the nature of complaints is that that those that have a grievance are a lot more vocal than those that are happy. So I'd ask for anyone who is happy with the new scope to speak up here.

I'd like to know if you're a DS user,if you're doing better or worse with the new scope and more importantly if you're using auto-aim still. I've tried the new scope with auto aim on and off and I'm actually better with it off.

Another factor that might be influencing the scope change is monitor/TV size. Even with a 37 inch TV I found the old dot too small to see without sitting so close to the screen that I'd burn my retinas out.

The point being is that that there are simply a lot more things to factor in than just the control system you're using.

As a DuelShock 3 user I'm finding the scope to be a lot more fun ie I can now do headshots!

Now the nature of complaints is that that those that have a grievance are a lot more vocal than those that are happy. So I'd ask for anyone who is happy with the new scope to speak up here.

I'd like to know if you're a DS user,if you're doing better or worse with the new scope and more importantly if you're using auto-aim still. I've tried the new scope with auto aim on and off and I'm actually better with it off.

Another factor that might be influencing the scope change is monitor/TV size. Even with a 37 inch TV I found the old dot too small to see without sitting so close to the screen that I'd burn my retinas out.

The point being is that that there are simply a lot more things to factor in than just the control system you're using.

As a DuelShock 3 user I'm finding the scope to be a lot more fun ie I can now do headshots!

Now the nature of complaints is that that those that have a grievance are a lot more vocal than those that are happy. So I'd ask for anyone who is happy with the new scope to speak up here.

I'd like to know if you're a DS user,if you're doing better or worse with the new scope and more importantly if you're using auto-aim still. I've tried the new scope with auto aim on and off and I'm actually better with it off.

Another factor that might be influencing the scope change is monitor/TV size. Even with a 37 inch TV I found the old dot too small to see without sitting so close to the screen that I'd burn my retinas out.

The point being is that that there are simply a lot more things to factor in than just the control system you're using.

The new optics are good for close-range sniping but perform poorly at ranges beyond 150 or so meters.

This aim-cross is distraction, and it is completely useless one.. Look, you can aim at someone, aim-cross will became red to tell you that you are clearly aiming at someone, but you will not be able to tell if you are aiming at his head without double checking target Intel(Not to even mention that target may be in move).

It was stupid ideas to implement this aim-cross to ALL sniper rifles at once, we could test it on one variant and give objective feedback - now we are forced to use it whether we want it or not for at least month.

Do you trust the client to not apply auto-aim to sniper rifles even when it's turned on?

No neither do I, so I'm trying to get confirmation.

Its as before, in terms of aiming.
Its even better that old dot.

Target runs inside your circle, shoot. Simple as that.
It doesnt make any problems at range of 100m or at 500m range.

So whats up with that whining that you cant shoot a guy becuse you dont know wheres the center of circle? Cmon. Seriusly?

I've always sat point blank on my large tv. This is what I choose to do to negate the need for variable zoom. Although it would be nice.
As a non-casual. The dot was not too small. The only issue with the dot, was daytime desert maps. I'm just saying..

I shouldn't be forced to use only color indication to know if I'm hitting someone.

(I realize unit information is displayed below, but this requires taking your eyes off target to some degree)

I've missed so many headshots since charlie simply because I have to look at the data for a split second to make sure its on the head only to have them fidget when I pull the trigger.

As to feedback data mining:

Ds3 user here
New crosshair is good for close range sniping and garbage for long range sniping.

Personal suggestion: Use the new crosshair for the Tactical and revert to the old dot for all other variants.

Brownie points: Stop screwing around with scopes on the SR unless it's to give it variable zoom. If the sniper had variable zoom then the new scope wouldn't be so bad. Original halo where this scope design was copied from had like 3 zoom settings and that's why it worked. I remember Unreal tournament 2k4 didn't have variable zoom and it worked fine because it had a dot like Dusts's pre-charlie design. Both games also the SR destroyed players because what's the point in a SR that can't kill. At least, if nothing else increase the headshot bonus to something that would 2 shot 1.2k hp. That's my thoughts on it.