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Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 346	Posted - 2014.08.15 14:43:00 - [1] - Quote Its as before, in terms of aiming. Its even better that old dot. Target runs inside your circle, shoot. Simple as that. It doesnt make any problems at range of 100m or at 500m range. So whats up with that whining that you cant shoot a guy becuse you dont know wheres the center of circle? Cmon. Seriusly? Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 349	Posted - 2014.08.16 02:03:00 - [2] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Its as before, in terms of aiming. Its even better that old dot. Target runs inside your circle, shoot. Simple as that. It doesnt make any problems at range of 100m or at 500m range. So whats up with that whining that you cant shoot a guy becuse you dont know wheres the center of circle? Cmon. Seriusly? WRONG. Target moves inside your cross hair.. wait for it to turn red.. otherwise blindfire and there's a decent chance you'll just miss. I'm not wasting the charge time / bullets on misses. Sorry. An enemy can be inside your cross hair, but not actually in your line of fire. It's god awful. Meaning you either guess on the correction you need to make, or apply some correction and wait for your cross hair to change color to red. PRIOR TO THIS If your dot was on someone. You would hit them. No need to wait for color change indication. Without an accurate fixed point in the center, you're guessing. Especially when it comes to moving targets, and moving head shots. Target moves in your circle, shoot. And it lands. If theres lag ,then nothing matter. Its not a guessing. You can see when its center of c+¡rcle. Its rather easy as aiming with FG. Cross hair turn red, so it takes longer than witb dot? With dot target also have to run across dot. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 349	Posted - 2014.08.16 02:24:00 - [3] - Quote Beastlina wrote: Yankie Doodle wrote: Adipem Nothi wrote: The new optics add too much guesswork when sniping targets at distances greater than 150-200 meters. You poor thing.... 'working as intended' Get the H out of the redline........ or GG New things take time to adjust to.... If this change is really made to keep snipers from staying so far away do you really think it will help? Do you really think people won't still cry and moan when they are killed by a sniper rifle? Even if they butcher the sniper role there will always be people who like it enough to make it work and then there will always be the sniper haters who call bs whenever they are killed by one no matter how hard it becomes for a sniper to perform successfully. The nerf is pointless because people will still complain when they are sniped. They don't really care how hard sniping becomes it will always be cheap and cowardly to them. Ok. Not all of them. But. Give me 1 solution to prevent Sentiniels with snipers. They drop a hive with other suit and sit there with 1,8k ehp (1k tanked suits are also a problem) You cant say that OB is a solution. Nor is the ADS as you wont have egnouth time to fly in/out while shooting him. Nor is counter snipe as it would take more than few headshoots to hurt them. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 350	Posted - 2014.08.16 02:43:00 - [4] - Quote Atiim wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Ok. Not all of them. But. Give me 1 solution to prevent Sentiniels with snipers. They drop a hive with other suit and sit there with 1,8k ehp (1k tanked suits are also a problem) You cant say that OB is a solution. Nor is the ADS as you wont have egnouth time to fly in/out while shooting him. Nor is counter snipe as it would take more than few headshoots to hurt them. He's standing still, so any of the fine rifles will do. There's also Shotguns and Nova Knives, which will make quick work of him. Since when you can kill a guys with rifle/NK that sits <300m inside redline? Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 356	Posted - 2014.08.16 10:21:00 - [5] - Quote For me its no difference with circle/dot. You can just add lines inside circle. About snipers. They dont need dmg buff. Its not cheap fps cod game. And snipers shouldnt 1 shoot kill medium/heavy frames. Well headshoot still OHK decent tanked logis/assault. And scout will never stay live after HS (700armor scout cant be called scout) Chrged SR does as much dmg as Thale. So its balanced. But from other hand, sniper mechanisms with redline are broken. All that heads behind textures, yet they shoot you. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 363	Posted - 2014.08.16 14:51:00 - [6] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Mejt0 wrote: Its as before, in terms of aiming. Its even better that old dot. Target runs inside your circle, shoot. Simple as that. It doesnt make any problems at range of 100m or at 500m range. So whats up with that whining that you cant shoot a guy becuse you dont know wheres the center of circle? Cmon. Seriusly? This aim-cross is distraction, and it is completely useless one.. Look, you can aim at someone, aim-cross will became red to tell you that you are clearly aiming at someone, but you will not be able to tell if you are aiming at his head without double checking target Intel(Not to even mention that target may be in move). It was stupid ideas to implement this aim-cross to ALL sniper rifles at once, we could test it on one variant and give objective feedback - now we are forced to use it whether we want it or not for at least month. Nothing is perfect. And CCP will probably fix it in Delta. My point is. Its not that bad as people say. They overreact. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 372	Posted - 2014.08.17 08:31:00 - [7] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: I understand. It just seems his video / sniper related posts were made for self promotion and out of spite. Admitting having not been a sniper since beta included. This has led me to discredit his testimony on the subject. It's an outlier. Anyway, sorry. Take from it what you will. I've heard that people speculate that.. mouse and keyboard are required to be a good sniper, but personally I don't know any dedicated snipers who run that setup. I can't possibly imagine myself doing any better with mouse and keyboard.. there probably is some advantage gained since we're talking about a joystick trying to achieve pin point accuracy. However, it's an awkward setup where any advantage I gain is lost when an enemy comes into close quarters combat. DS3 feels more natural, and getting the exact movement I want right when I want it is difficult when dealing with a mouse.This is likely due to using the DS3 almost exclusively since release. (releasing both variants of the sniper rifle circle and dot, is something to consider if you feel enough people like the circle) Its not reqiured to be good sniper (mouse). But for sure its far better for sniping/aiming than joystick. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 372	Posted - 2014.08.17 08:59:00 - [8] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: I'm sure it's easier.. but I don't find myself getting outclassed by any keyboard and mouse users. Its not about easier/harder. With mouse you just react faster and more accurate. In dust mouse input isnt supported (as i heard). So in dust mouse/DS3 may feel same. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 372	Posted - 2014.08.17 11:31:00 - [9] - Quote Kevall Longstride wrote: M&KB is supported in Dust but as I understand it, the raw input from the mouse is nerfed or we'd have the situation where m&kb really did have a major advantage. The part of the equation that interests me is why some like me, find the new scope much, much easier to use and others are struggling. I've squaded with a fair few random squads in Pub matches this week since Charlie and it's honestly 50/50 in opinion. This leads me to believe its more a case of personal preference and not a technical difference between the two scopes. I'm edging towards both as variants in the market place for all SR myself. In my opinion circle is better than dot. If need, then add 2 thick, transparent lines inside circle. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 380	Posted - 2014.08.18 13:59:00 - [10] - Quote Snake Sellors wrote: Agreed, and I gotta say, I find it incredibly ironic that the dust community likes to say how snipers are unskilled and have no gun game, that we are all scrubs, whilst we are the only ones who actually bother to aim down sights in an fps. Because drilling through people with auto aim is so difficult. Sniper Rifle isnt in gun game category. And with every gun you need to aim. Even if its simplier than with other. Snipers in this game are still used 99% in redline. They should rework thier dmg/range. Raward shooting from 300 meters more than from 500m. Damage drop should affect snipers in THIS game or redline should be fixed. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.

Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 381	Posted - 2014.08.18 15:32:00 - [11] - Quote 300m was an example. Up to 300m dmg should be eq 100% and should fall every x meters for x%. QQ was beacuse most are in redline in spots where you can only get them with ADS. And. Dust AA doesnt work like that. It doesnt lock on on targets. Strafing still works. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 383	Posted - 2014.08.19 07:04:00 - [12] - Quote Mike De Luca wrote: And where would we shoot from at 300m? A lot of maps don't support sniping to begin with, and the ones that do have VERY few spots within 300m of where potential targets would be....that aren't completely obvious anyway, a few you could force to work for a short period of time, but then the main area of engagement for the fight moves n you're now spending half the remainder of the match trying to find a new perch. Only about 60-70% are in the redline in my matches, and they're mostly starter fits running from a stomp...so I'm ok with them, typically i switch out to a lower grade weapon n give em a body shot so they learn they're in a bad spot, without really ruining their enjoyment of the game, the idiots with a thales/cal sent though....they die, or are kept busy running from a real sniper while I lmao at them. Also....ds3 and dislike the new reticule beyond 200-300m. Pick up a scout and run with sniper. 300m and more isnt egnouth for you? You shouldnt sit whole match in one spot. Maybe you dont, i dont know that. But what i said, running around in scout suit with damps/cloak is good for sniper. Points out of town are good example of this. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 383	Posted - 2014.08.19 10:25:00 - [13] - Quote And i disagree with snipers sitting in once spot, only farming kills. If you move, you can help your squad/team better when they engage with enemys. When you move 350meters away and with a cloak, nobody will ever see you . Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 383	Posted - 2014.08.19 15:02:00 - [14] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: Mejt0 wrote: And i disagree with snipers sitting in once spot, only farming kills. If you move, you can help your squad/team better when they engage with enemys. When you move 350meters away and with a cloak, nobody will ever see you . I will see you. I will see you first and kill you with a headshot. or You will see me first, make an attempt on my life and be forced spending the entire match trying to relocate out of my line of sight. Commando > Scout for the current meta. Scout > everything but ADS. Because of stealth. If you would see me/other then you would need to be close to all the action near objectie. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 388	Posted - 2014.08.19 15:04:00 - [15] - Quote Symbioticforks wrote: Mejt0 wrote: And i disagree with snipers sitting in once spot, only farming kills. If you move, you can help your squad/team better when they engage with enemys. When you move 350meters away and with a cloak, nobody will ever see you . I will see you. I will see you first and kill you with a headshot. or You will see me first, make an attempt on my life and be forced spending the entire match trying to relocate out of my line of sight. Commando > Scout for the current meta. Scout > everything but ADS. Because of stealth. If you would see me/other then you would need to be close to all the action near objectie. Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
Mejt0 Made in Poland... E-R-A 388	Posted - 2014.08.19 16:49:00 - [16] - Quote My point is that there shouldnt be places where sniper is untouchable. Places where you cant counter snipe unless you go at his sight line (usually near point). Caldari Loyalist Markiplier fan. Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.