LOL...liar....I would post more but TBH, I have no clue what most of that is you wrote. Looks like a can of alphabet soup exploded on my screen

What is this... I don't even....

Why are you touching min suits.... they're the worst of all the suits.

I agree. The Min Commando nerf seems random and a nerf for the sake of nerfing something. I'd love to see some data to support why it is bad that the Min Commando is faster than armor tanked medium frames.

Speed is what keeps these crappy Minmatar suits alive.

Hotfix? CCP doesnt even know what a hotfix is. And they are even giving the fix an alpha? rofl point taken CCP..the trolling is more than enough now. The list in the OP is way too long for something that can EVER be fixed within a hotfix, especially since its regarding DUST's never ending bugs and issues. CCP would need a hotfix for the hotfix alpha, and a beta test for the hotfix after that.

I have to disagree with Tank v Tank being balanced. Damage mods are too powerful. Basically, the 33% nerf that hardeners not need to also happen to damage mods. At the moment, Glass Cannons are simply the best option as you can lower Shots to Kill for the most Tanky Tank far easier with a Glass Cannon than you can increase Shots to Kill on yourself with a Tanky Tank. My Armor Hardener is worth less than a Damage Mod; 25% compared to 30% damage.

It also means that you get the Dropship that is completely unable to react because the Glass Cannon one shots them from the sky instantly.

i just wanted to drop in and say that CCP Rattati is doing a great job here.

As someone who has sworn of Dust due to CCP's actions at/post fanfest, and abandonment of the console cmmuniity,It almost makes me want to reinstall dust (this is not meant as a snarky comment, really if I see more effort like CCP Rattati's here, I just might come back)

EDIT: It should be no secret that I support the dampning change, as I have made NUMEROUS post about it. The PLC boost is great, and the incremental balancing attempts is such a welcome change it isn't funny.

The only Mistake CCP has made is in not hiring you sooner.

Yknow what? Can my flaylock finally get a buff into usefulness? maybe? What about the terrible PG on all Minmatar scout suits? Will this be addressed as well?

I hope these will be taken into consideration as they are very much needed. I hope this isn't just a "nerf all Minmatar things" patch.

we know, and we are looking at sidearms and non-competitive weapons in the the second or third wave of iterations.

There's this fancy thing called new management.... It changes business practices...

I appreciate the way in which you have presented the information. Based on what you have laid out here, it seems like this will be a pretty positive first pass. While I am not a huge fan of the idea of AV grenades being harder to restock, especially with the count having already been reduced, I will have to hold judgement until we can actually test the new hotfix and see it in conjunction with the raise of the PLC as a potentially viable AV option.

10 pages later, and I'm still patiently waiting for a response as to whether or not the increased nanites for grenades will affect Mass Driver rounds as well.

it's definitely not meant to

Finally found a reference to turrets. That is a good question, but not just because a blaster out ranges a swarm user.

A blaster has INSANE range atm for something that can take a beating. I have been pulling out a blaster recently, and really took note of that range last night. I was shooting people 250m out (seemed like it at least), with a forge gunner constantly beating me (I just ignored him).

I eventually found me a sweet spot, where I could sit from a distance and just mow any infantry bold enough to pop their heads out, all the while trying to wrap my brain around why this thing needs so much range.

The range MUST drop. After a certain point, there should be no damage applied. Say like At 150M damage stops all together. It needs a set optimal range as well, from which we have damage falloff up until the point that damage stops (in this case 150m).


Another thing, dispersion. I'm very curious as to how that would work, as I burst out my shots to work around the already horrible accuracy these things have. I mean I really do struggle to hit infantry, it's not as easy as everyone makes it out to be as is, especially when you drop down below a proto turret, like I have.

Another thing with dispersion, typically I think of dispersion as meaning shots can go anywhere within the reticule given. Think the COD cross hairs, when you move the cross hair gets bigger, indicating shots can go anywhere within the cross hairs. So stopping tightens the cross hairs, and allows for better accuracy, as you tighten the dispersion.

Tanks have a single red dot, so we won't have any indication of said dispersion. Just another thought of mine.


Another thing of note to your proposed changes was how you indicated how you felt tank v tank was in a good place. I totally disagree. I feel engagement should be longer and more meaningful. By increasing the TTK among tanks themselves, you help infantry. As tanks will need to spend far more time dealing with other tanks, decreasing their overall impact against infantry.

So chew on that a bit.

Weapons
GÇóWe are increasing the damage of the PLC against vehicles, to help provide more options for anti-vehicle work using light weapons but we are also looking at adding Plasma Cannon variants at a later stage. The Forge Gun will remain as the strongest infantry AV weapon in each tier.

GÇóIncrease Clone Pack Prices and number of clones in a Clone Pack

it's definitely not meant to

primarily based on tweaks to existing balance rather than radical reworks.

Shields
GÇóThe CPM and community has been vocal on not changing multiple ehp modules at a time. As such we will not be making any changes to shield tanking until the next hotfix. This also gives us a chance to examine new data from rebalanced armor modules.

Weapons
GÇóWe will be increasing the damage of the Plasma Assault Rifle and reducing the Combat RifleGÇÿs damage a little, nothing dramatic. Rail Rifles and Scrambler Rifles will not be changed in this hotfix, but weGÇÿll keep an eye on them. WeGÇÿre not making massive changes here as we expect the armor changes will have an impact on rifle usage due to the damage profiles.

Vehicles
GÇóWe believe, based on data, that Tank v Tank is in a good place. However, with the grenade number being reduced, we believe that AV grenades need to do more damage overall to become a viable threat to vehicles again.
GÇóHowever, we propose that they replenish less at hives so we want to increase nanite cost of grenades. WeGÇÿre also examining the option of removing their ability to restock at nanohives, but we want to see how increased nanite cost plays out first.
GÇóWeGÇÿre slightly increasing HMG damage against vehicles to make them a little more threatening to LAVs. They should still get laughed off by tanks.