Stolen: nothing

But spending on Aurum and packs over the last two years: 1245,- euro (1734,- dollars)

EVE over the last 8 years: probably a hole lot more

So you see whining about 20 bucks is for *****'s

your example, really has no merit relative to a microtransaction distributed over the internet with an accompanying T&C document

How so? They misled their own customers for profit, and they should suffer as a company as a result. If console gamers weren't so apathetic about this stuff, they would challenge these actions so that they could get better products from developers.

I'm sure as hell not accepting this, if they get away with it, all gamers are gonna get from them are crap products and lies. I hope everybody who's already left this game for good carries this experience with them.

A scam that the law hasn't caught up with yet is still a scam.

How have they misled anyone?

First - they have made an announcement - at Fanfest in fact.
Second - the game still runs and the microtransactions still work.
Third - the game will continue to run for some time (this is admittedly an assumption, but they haven't announced a closure)

So, you got what you paid for, and can continue to use what you paid for, and it works exactly as advertised and expected.

It's you people, who somehow thought that CCP was going to continue developing on a dead platform forever that are misleading yourselves.

How have they misled anyone?

First is wrong to even bring up - they sold more expensive booster prior to fanfest - is this not an un-honest move?

-Laaaaaaaseeeeeer FOCUSED!

-The "ten year plan", yes, it was obviously bs, but when players misinterpreted the statement to mean "on this specific console" they conveniently forgot to correct them.


-Would they have stopped development on EVE without giving players advance notice? Technically not a deception on their part, but still there is nothing stopping them from doing so, but they wouldn't if they expected to sell crap games to these people ever again. Just highlighting how little respect they have for their console-only players.

First is wrong to even bring up - they sold more expensive booster prior to fanfest - is this not an un-honest move?

So, no, it isn't being dishonest.

Does the booster function as they said it would? Is it still useful in-game as advertised?

I think you can answer your own question. Again, I understand being disappointed, but be real. Everything that you have paid for has been delivered to you. That isn't the same thing as saying that everything that you hoped for has been delivered. Clearly that isn't true.

So, no, it isn't being dishonest.


Aside - Would it be dishonest for a car manufacturer to sell you super spiffy gasoline for your car and then announce that they aren't going to be adding new features to your car, and that at some point in the future, you will have to give your car back due to the lease arrangements (which you knew would have to happen eventually)?

The english translation for that is dishonest. Personally yes i think it very much is. If you are going to soon be discontinuing a product and you sell virtual goods that are only useful in the product you are about to discontinue its misleading to start selling said goods to people especially when said goods are worth money (sorry but aurum though a fictional currancy can easily have a real world value ). So yes to me it is easily very dishonest. I think the fact that Sony has been giving refunds for purchases up to the past 90 days speaks volumes to this. If it was not dishonest business practice i doubt sony would side with the players.

Uhm, so what I'm saying and what you're saying seem to be disconnected. CCP - willingly sold more expensive boosters while knowing they were about to turn Dust514 Keynotes into Legion Keynotes and lowering the game status to low resources.

This move to boosters was done before anyone knew the game was about to meet a road that has a very high potential to lead to it's end. Many would of not made purchases based on this info.

But what's really wrong is how the omega boosters aren't normally on the market. They cost quite a bit more then the regular ones, so why did they release the more expensive boosters right before they announced everything they did at fanfest?

It's dishonest.

No, it isn't. You bought the boosters because they give you an in-game advantage. They still do. They will continue to do so until the game shutters.

Hey, you, prick who doesn't value money.

Not all of us are rich. You have no right to decide what we hold as valuable or not.

What does this have to do with anything I said?

Steal? -ú0.

I don't consider choosing to pay for something of my own free will as being stolen from.

Everything, just because you have your expectations and make assumptions, that does not make them true.
Reality is that you bought some virtual goods and those are delivered and working as promised (you saved yourself time).

Why is it so hard to understand that you just bought a (virtual) product and not invested in future development. Whatever a company does with the income they make is up to them, they could have bought a private jet for themselves if they wanted to. You buying a product from a company does not entitle you anything else besides that product, virtual or not.


As far as the refunds go from Sony, that is their default practice as a reseller to keep you as a customer while they deal with the supplier, just like most other payment services do.

This has nothing to do with why what they did was dishonest. Putting boosters on the market before announcing dust was to be down-graded in development is dishonest. They should of waited until they made the announcements - they would of sold a lot less boosters.

And that's exactly why they didn't. It's dishonest business practice. Wether or not my product work has nothing to do with the fact I bought a product under false assumptions by CCP that they 'intended' to explain in fanfest, but, ya, decided to put boosters on the market for a week then off right before fanfest.

Okay, you can have this car of mine for $50! It's totally not stolen. I have a (forged) pink slip and everything! But when the cops come by to take it back, there would be no point in turning me in, because you gave me money of your own free will.

God I LOVE suckers.... I mean customers... like you.

I think an accurate comparison would be this. Company A is starting to sink everyone in upper management knows this as a fact. Company A has started to even file for bankruptcy but at this point nothing has been cemented yet. Company A then starts a big sale of gift cards offering all gift cards at half their face value. Consumers buy these gift cards because it is a great deal and they have no idea the company has started the process to file bankruptcy. One week later the court approves said bankruptcy and the gift cards are now not even worth the plastic they are printed on. That is how many players in dust feel because of how this was handled. If Company A had advertized the gift cards as a going out of business sale reaction would be greatly different. So would the playerbases reaction.