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Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4969	Posted - 2014.04.22 19:47:00 - [61] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I'm sorry but what? When a role is 50% of the units you see in PC, that usually means something is wrong. You mean like when Medium suits were 90% of the team a few updates back? It was fine then right? No, no it wasn't. Get your head out of your ass, I'm looking for balance, not for dominance. I was using my Assault suit with AR today for fucks sake, that should tell you how much I care about being OP. It was. I didn't see anybody complaining "THERE'S TOO MANY ASSAULTS!!!"... PC was DOMINATED by medium suits. Heavies were a novelty at one point, hell even I brought out my Galente Medium. Scouts?... lol... only certain people brought them out for the melee glitch. Now a class actually has a role that trumps YOUR class in certain situations, and it's a bad thing. You want your cake and to eat it too. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8848	Posted - 2014.04.22 19:49:00 - [62] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I'm sorry but what? When a role is 50% of the units you see in PC, that usually means something is wrong. You mean like when Medium suits were 90% of the team a few updates back? It was fine then right? No, no it wasn't. Get your head out of your ass, I'm looking for balance, not for dominance. I was using my Assault suit with AR today for fucks sake, that should tell you how much I care about being OP. It was. I didn't see anybody complaining "THERE'S TOO MANY ASSAULTS!!!"... PC was DOMINATED by medium suits. Heavies were a novelty at one point, hell even I brought out my Galente Medium. Scouts?... lol... only certain people brought them out for the melee glitch. Now a class actually has a role that trumps YOUR class in certain situations, and it's a bad thing. You want your cake and to eat it too. "Certain situations" It trumps all classes at all situations. Every single one. Being a heavy is the most easy mode thing in the game right now, I got 20/0 while barely looking at the screen, talking to my sister. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 438	Posted - 2014.04.22 19:49:00 - [63] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Evicer wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I'm sorry but that just means the heavy was fine before, and now it's too powerful. Heavies were fine before? Before what? I'm asking before I give my opinion on that statement. he has no point his agenda is he wants more parlor tricks to kill heavies as if the sig the cloak Re's a shotgun and faster strafing speed wasnt enough No, it's not enough actually. Considering in my heavy suit I don't consider any of those a real threat I can't deal with. Stop lying I've never once seen you in a heavy suit I played 3 matches with you yesterday .you were running scout shotgun Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui The Containment Unit 592	Posted - 2014.04.22 19:50:00 - [64] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: This is why this game is crap right now is because of posts like these and the players who back them . It's not even funny anymore and it's killing the desire to even play this game and even more to look on the forums to see such . I wish they would just kill the forums already . The amount of ignorance that comes out of this forum and some of these players mouths is just unmeasurable . Excuse me for noticing an imbalance that I didn't report until I was sure of it. This isn't me going out of a single heavy spam match and posting this, this was over the entire 1.8, every match, every PC battle, every single one I noticed heavies were a bit absurd. Like I said , assault suits are a non factor , so that means kill everything else ??? Why not propose ways to better the classes that are lacking instead of killing roles that are just beginning to actually have a place in the game . That might just be too much like right . Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8848	Posted - 2014.04.22 19:50:00 - [65] - Quote Evicer wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Evicer wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I'm sorry but that just means the heavy was fine before, and now it's too powerful. Heavies were fine before? Before what? I'm asking before I give my opinion on that statement. he has no point his agenda is he wants more parlor tricks to kill heavies as if the sig the cloak Re's a shotgun and faster strafing speed wasnt enough No, it's not enough actually. Considering in my heavy suit I don't consider any of those a real threat I can't deal with. Stop lying I've never once seen you in a heavy suit I played 3 matches with you yesterday .you were running scout shotgun I have: Gallente assault, Gallente commando, Gallente scout, Gallente sentinel and currently working on Gallente logi. Also, I didn't even play 23 matches yesterday. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 438	Posted - 2014.04.22 19:50:00 - [66] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I'm sorry but what? When a role is 50% of the units you see in PC, that usually means something is wrong. You mean like when Medium suits were 90% of the team a few updates back? It was fine then right? No, no it wasn't. Get your head out of your ass, I'm looking for balance, not for dominance. I was using my Assault suit with AR today for fucks sake, that should tell you how much I care about being OP. It was. I didn't see anybody complaining "THERE'S TOO MANY ASSAULTS!!!"... PC was DOMINATED by medium suits. Heavies were a novelty at one point, hell even I brought out my Galente Medium. Scouts?... lol... only certain people brought them out for the melee glitch. Now a class actually has a role that trumps YOUR class in certain situations, and it's a bad thing. You want your cake and to eat it too. "Certain situations" It trumps all classes at all situations. Every single one. Being a heavy is the most easy mode thing in the game right now, I got 20/0 while barely looking at the screen, talking to my sister. my opinion of you is that you are in fact a biased idiot Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8848	Posted - 2014.04.22 19:51:00 - [67] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: This is why this game is crap right now is because of posts like these and the players who back them . It's not even funny anymore and it's killing the desire to even play this game and even more to look on the forums to see such . I wish they would just kill the forums already . The amount of ignorance that comes out of this forum and some of these players mouths is just unmeasurable . Excuse me for noticing an imbalance that I didn't report until I was sure of it. This isn't me going out of a single heavy spam match and posting this, this was over the entire 1.8, every match, every PC battle, every single one I noticed heavies were a bit absurd. Like I said , assault suits are a non factor , so that means kill everything else ??? Why not propose ways to better the classes that are lacking instead of killing roles that are just beginning to actually have a place in the game . That might just be too much like right . Considering I am using every class other than the logistics, I don't think this is just an assault problem. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8848	Posted - 2014.04.22 19:52:00 - [68] - Quote Evicer wrote: my opinion of you is that you are in fact a biased idiot Come back to me when I care. I have all class except for the Logi, heavy > All. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 438	Posted - 2014.04.22 19:53:00 - [69] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Evicer wrote: my opinion of you is that you are in fact a biased idiot Come back to me when I care. I have all class except for the Logi, heavy > All. you're a liar ...plain and simple Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4969	Posted - 2014.04.22 19:53:00 - [70] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I'm sorry but that just means the heavy was fine before, and now it's too powerful. Heavies were fine before? Before what? I'm asking before I give my opinion on that statement. 1.7, after the HMG buff. Heavies ALWAYS needed a resistance buff. ALWAYS. It was only a matter of time before they got it because lolnades in DUST. The explosive spam in this game was all PC was about. Killing a full health heavy, full armor, full shields with 1 proto nade IS A JOKE! I've had this happen to me MANY times in PC, WHILE having a logi on my ass. Resistance to explosives was always needed. HMG buff was needed, turn speed was needed (maybe they buffed it too much? idk), HP buff was needed, TO A POINT. I'm not saying to make heavies God mode, but they're HEAVIES. They have a role, and so do you! Heavies need concentrated fire again, which is great! It means heavies are respected again for what they are, bloody heavies! ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"

Omega Black Zero Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 15	Posted - 2014.04.22 19:54:00 - [71] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I'm sorry but what? When a role is 50% of the units you see in PC, that usually means something is wrong. You mean like when Medium suits were 90% of the team a few updates back? It was fine then right? No, no it wasn't. Get your head out of your ass, I'm looking for balance, not for dominance. I was using my Assault suit with AR today for fucks sake, that should tell you how much I care about being OP. It was. I didn't see anybody complaining "THERE'S TOO MANY ASSAULTS!!!"... PC was DOMINATED by medium suits. Heavies were a novelty at one point, hell even I brought out my Galente Medium. Scouts?... lol... only certain people brought them out for the melee glitch. Now a class actually has a role that trumps YOUR class in certain situations, and it's a bad thing. You want your cake and to eat it too. "Certain situations" It trumps all classes at all situations. Every single one. Being a heavy is the most easy mode thing in the game right now, I got 20/0 while barely looking at the screen, talking to my sister. Speak for yourself. I have no issues dropping heavies with a laser rifle. Guess what kills me more often. Scouts. It's like rock scissor paper. And you're scissors going up against their rock, when you should be going after paper. Scouts aren't meant to be a solo class. Scouts are supposed to work together with the squad (think the moon orbiting the earth, ie the rest of the squad). Tell your squad there is a heavy and where he is located instead of trying to be the end all killer. The adjustments make plenty of sense to me. If you have a diverse squad with diverse weaponry, a heavies resistances aren't nearly powerful. Before you QQ more about heavies, try running as a squad scout instead of a solo scout and you might notice the new balances were intended to improve teamwork, not remove it from the game.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8848	Posted - 2014.04.22 19:54:00 - [72] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I'm sorry but that just means the heavy was fine before, and now it's too powerful. Heavies were fine before? Before what? I'm asking before I give my opinion on that statement. 1.7, after the HMG buff. Heavies ALWAYS needed a resistance buff. ALWAYS. It was only a matter of time before they got it because lolnades in DUST. The explosive spam in this game was all PC was about. Killing a full health heavy, full armor, full shields with 1 proto nade IS A JOKE! I've had this happen to me MANY times in PC, WHILE having a logi on my ass. Resistance to explosives was always needed. HMG buff was needed, turn speed was needed (maybe they buffed it too much? idk), HP buff was needed, TO A POINT. I'm not saying to make heavies God mode, but they're HEAVIES. They have a role, and so do you! Heavies need concentrated fire again, which is great! It means heavies are respected again for what they are, bloody heavies! 1 grenade? It takes three to take down a heavy, even before the explosive resistances, what are you smoking? Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8848	Posted - 2014.04.22 19:55:00 - [73] - Quote Omega Black Zero wrote: Speak for yourself. I have no issues dropping heavies with laser rifle. Guess what kills me more often. Scouts. It's like rock scissor paper. And you're scissors going up against their rock, when you should be going after paper. Scouts aren't meant to be a solo class. Scouts are supposed to work together with the squad (think the moon orbiting the earth, ie the rest of the squad). Tell your squad there is a heavy and where he is located instead of trying to be the end all killer. The adjustments make plenty of sense to me. If you have a diverse squad with diverse weaponry, a heavies resistances aren't nearly powerful. Before you QQ more about heavies, try running as a squad scout instead of a solo scout and you might notice the new balances were intended to improve teamwork, not remove it from the game. Long range, against a class with no long range weaponry? As soon as the heavy gets it's own "laser", you will see why it's OP. Oh and it will get it's own laser, they won't be limited to CQC weaponry. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Jake Diesel BIG BAD W0LVES Canis Eliminatus Operatives 153	Posted - 2014.04.22 19:56:00 - [74] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Heavies were a joke because the HMG didn't work right. They buffed the HMG, and they became badass. I saw a healthy balance in PC, people brought heavies, but they weren't 50% of the enemy team. Then the weapons nerf happened, proficiency nerfs, resistances buffs, and grenades nerfs, and suddenly heavies are 50% or more of the people in PC matches and are not fun to fight against, they feel like annoying roadblocks that you either have to go around or shoot at for 10 minutes until they go down. Heavies were a joke NOT JUST because the HMG was poop. The turn speed was bad, the nade spam, MD spam, ARs being out of balance, AA... You name it, heavies felt it worse because their huge hitbox and speed compounded every problem. Heavies are SUPPOSE to be a problem to get rid of. Not just throw a nade at one or 1 magazine... like heavies were since Chromosome! A joke. Before Chromosome heavies were feared, and you respected their presence, as you should. They have an actual TTK now, and that's a problem? I thought people wanted a better TTK? Now heavies actually take effort to kill, and it's a call to nerf HP... lol I'm guessing the majority of peeps who want the heavy nerf are rifle users (any variant) and shotgun scouts. Lol. It's funny but a full proto rifle or shotgun can drop a Gallente proto sentinel in short time. Like less than 2 seconds. 3-4 shots from a proto shotgun, and and probably 1.5 seconds from the best rifles. And the turn speed nerf? Lol. That's just plain stupid. Again, peeps who just want to solo everything their way and forget that hmg's and heavies rely on short distance engagements unless you're forging.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8848	Posted - 2014.04.22 19:56:00 - [75] - Quote Evicer wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Evicer wrote: my opinion of you is that you are in fact a biased idiot Come back to me when I care. I have all class except for the Logi, heavy > All. you're a liar ...plain and simple Hmm... Yes, call my a liar, even though I can prove it with a simple picture. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8848	Posted - 2014.04.22 19:57:00 - [76] - Quote Jake Diesel wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Heavies were a joke because the HMG didn't work right. They buffed the HMG, and they became badass. I saw a healthy balance in PC, people brought heavies, but they weren't 50% of the enemy team. Then the weapons nerf happened, proficiency nerfs, resistances buffs, and grenades nerfs, and suddenly heavies are 50% or more of the people in PC matches and are not fun to fight against, they feel like annoying roadblocks that you either have to go around or shoot at for 10 minutes until they go down. Heavies were a joke NOT JUST because the HMG was poop. The turn speed was bad, the nade spam, MD spam, ARs being out of balance, AA... You name it, heavies felt it worse because their huge hitbox and speed compounded every problem. Heavies are SUPPOSE to be a problem to get rid of. Not just throw a nade at one or 1 magazine... like heavies were since Chromosome! A joke. Before Chromosome heavies were feared, and you respected their presence, as you should. They have an actual TTK now, and that's a problem? I thought people wanted a better TTK? Now heavies actually take effort to kill, and it's a call to nerf HP... lol I'm guessing the majority of peeps who want the heavy nerf are rifle users (any variant) and shotgun scouts. Lol. It's funny but a full proto rifle or shotgun can drop a Gallente proto sentinel in short time. Like less than 2 seconds. 3-4 shots from a proto shotgun, and and probably 1.5 seconds from the best rifles. And the turn speed nerf? Lol. That's just plain stupid. Again, peeps who just want to solo everything their way and forget that hmg's and heavies rely on short distance engagements unless you're forging. If a unit takes only one person to operate, it should take one unit to take it down. If that is not true, that unit will become the most numerous, unless it has drawbacks that hold it from being that way. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Zaaeed Massani RisingSuns Dark Taboo 268	Posted - 2014.04.22 19:58:00 - [77] - Quote Don't you dare touch my commando. Otherwise, fine. Minmatar & Gallente A.R.C. Program Instructor / Do you even lift?
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 438	Posted - 2014.04.22 19:58:00 - [78] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I'm sorry but that just means the heavy was fine before, and now it's too powerful. Heavies were fine before? Before what? I'm asking before I give my opinion on that statement. 1.7, after the HMG buff. Heavies ALWAYS needed a resistance buff. ALWAYS. It was only a matter of time before they got it because lolnades in DUST. The explosive spam in this game was all PC was about. Killing a full health heavy, full armor, full shields with 1 proto nade IS A JOKE! I've had this happen to me MANY times in PC, WHILE having a logi on my ass. Resistance to explosives was always needed. HMG buff was needed, turn speed was needed (maybe they buffed it too much? idk), HP buff was needed, TO A POINT. I'm not saying to make heavies God mode, but they're HEAVIES. They have a role, and so do you! Heavies need concentrated fire again, which is great! It means heavies are respected again for what they are, bloody heavies! they didnt buff it to much Lance we have to be able to hit vehicles like assault dropships when its time to forge.All vehicles move faster than infantry. Another reason why we need the speed Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster Lokun Listamenn 1132	Posted - 2014.04.22 19:58:00 - [79] - Quote Evicer wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Evicer wrote: my opinion of you is that you are in fact a biased idiot Come back to me when I care. I have all class except for the Logi, heavy > All. you're a liar ...plain and simple Saw Cat Merc's (Gallente) sentinel today @OP Is the real problem with the heavies their ehp or the HMG's dps? (I obviously think the role is fine since I run Amarr sentinel and do reasonably well with it) "Now I am become Dev, the locker of threads." -CCP Logibro t¢«
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8853	Posted - 2014.04.22 19:59:00 - [80] - Quote Zaaeed Massani wrote: Don't you dare touch my commando. Otherwise, fine. Wasn't talking about commando, I think it's just fine, if not slightly underpowered. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC

Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8853	Posted - 2014.04.22 19:59:00 - [81] - Quote Evicer wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Cat Merc wrote: I'm sorry but that just means the heavy was fine before, and now it's too powerful. Heavies were fine before? Before what? I'm asking before I give my opinion on that statement. 1.7, after the HMG buff. Heavies ALWAYS needed a resistance buff. ALWAYS. It was only a matter of time before they got it because lolnades in DUST. The explosive spam in this game was all PC was about. Killing a full health heavy, full armor, full shields with 1 proto nade IS A JOKE! I've had this happen to me MANY times in PC, WHILE having a logi on my ass. Resistance to explosives was always needed. HMG buff was needed, turn speed was needed (maybe they buffed it too much? idk), HP buff was needed, TO A POINT. I'm not saying to make heavies God mode, but they're HEAVIES. They have a role, and so do you! Heavies need concentrated fire again, which is great! It means heavies are respected again for what they are, bloody heavies! they didnt buff it to much Lance we have to be able to hit vehicles like assault dropships when its time to forge.All vehicles move faster than infantry. Another reason why we need the speed Put a single kin cat on. You're as fast as my assault, if not faster. Hooray. (And yes I have a heavy fitted like that, it's a face raper) Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 447	Posted - 2014.04.22 20:00:00 - [82] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Zaaeed Massani wrote: Don't you dare touch my commando. Otherwise, fine. Wasn't talking about commando, I think it's just fine, if not slightly underpowered. Same suit fool Fortune favors the Bold,but Success favors the Resolute Unbent,Unburdened, UNSTOPPABLE Amarr loyalist
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4983	Posted - 2014.04.22 20:00:00 - [83] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: "Certain situations" It trumps all classes at all situations. Every single one. Being a heavy is the most easy mode thing in the game right now, I got 20/0 while barely looking at the screen, talking to my sister. Your argument is flawed. I'm not talking about the heavies wielding light weapons, that's a different argument altogether. My argument is heavy HMG users, playing in CQC situation. THAT'S THEIR ROLE. I used to respect your opinions, I might not have agreed with them, but this argument you have for a heavy HP + turn speed nerf because you can't kill them with 1 mag, is the dumbest thing I've heard you say yet. You hear yourself? You want to kill a heavy with 1 magazine... yet you want to say you're not biased? Medium suits will ALWAYS be the easiest mode in this game, hence you see more medium suits than any other. People play DUST to challenge themselves? This game is about stomping everyone as easy as possible, which is what you're implying in your posts. I'm done here. Your ignorance on the whole matter is baffling, but your biased opinions are glaring. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8853	Posted - 2014.04.22 20:02:00 - [84] - Quote Lance 2ballzStrong wrote: Cat Merc wrote: "Certain situations" It trumps all classes at all situations. Every single one. Being a heavy is the most easy mode thing in the game right now, I got 20/0 while barely looking at the screen, talking to my sister. Your argument is flawed. I'm not talking about the heavies wielding light weapons, that's a different argument altogether. My argument is heavy HMG users, playing in CQC situation. THAT'S THEIR ROLE. I used to respect your opinions, I might not have agreed with them, but this argument you have for a heavy HP + turn speed nerf because you can't kill them with 1 mag, is the dumbest thing I've heard you say yet. You hear yourself? You want to kill a heavy with 1 magazine... yet you want to say you're not biased? Medium suits will ALWAYS be the easiest mode in this game, hence you see more medium suits than any other. People play DUST to challenge themselves? This game is about stomping everyone as easy as possible, which is what you're implying in your posts. I'm done here. Your ignorance on the whole matter is baffling, but your biased opinions are glaring. You put words in my mouth, I never said a turn speed nerf. Also, heavies aren't supposed to be CQC only, just that the only heavy wepaon that exists right now is close-medium range. Also, if a heavy cannot be taken down with 5 seconds of sustained fire, which is a LONG time in shooter terms, while the heavy can turn and insta kill you, that's OP as **** unless it has insane drawbacks, like being a limited resource like in Planetside 2 and max units. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Omega Black Zero Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 16	Posted - 2014.04.22 20:02:00 - [85] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Omega Black Zero wrote: Speak for yourself. I have no issues dropping heavies with laser rifle. Guess what kills me more often. Scouts. It's like rock scissor paper. And you're scissors going up against their rock, when you should be going after paper. Scouts aren't meant to be a solo class. Scouts are supposed to work together with the squad (think the moon orbiting the earth, ie the rest of the squad). Tell your squad there is a heavy and where he is located instead of trying to be the end all killer. The adjustments make plenty of sense to me. If you have a diverse squad with diverse weaponry, a heavies resistances aren't nearly powerful. Before you QQ more about heavies, try running as a squad scout instead of a solo scout and you might notice the new balances were intended to improve teamwork, not remove it from the game. Long range, against a class with no long range weaponry? As soon as the heavy gets it's own "laser", you will see why it's OP. Oh and it will get it's own laser, they won't be limited to CQC weaponry. They already have Forge gunners. They aren't limited to CQC weaponry.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3574	Posted - 2014.04.22 20:03:00 - [86] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: CCP... You nerfed the rifles and SMG - Great You gave heavies explosives resistance - Alright... You reduced grenade count by 1 - Meh, I guess You gave heavies resistances to weaponry - Playing PC and pubs, it's really clear that heavies were overbuffed, taking one down feels like a chore, there is no "Fun" in fighting a heavy, it's just "OH GOD PLEASE DON'T SEE ME PLEASE DON'T SEE ME, WHY DO I HAVE TO RELOAD ALREADY?". 20% HP reduction was a bit too much, but a 10% reduction considering most of the rifles go reduced by 10% would seem fair. /me activates flame shield No. Heavies are supposed to be superior in direct combat. Deal with it.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8853	Posted - 2014.04.22 20:04:00 - [87] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Cat Merc wrote: CCP... You nerfed the rifles and SMG - Great You gave heavies explosives resistance - Alright... You reduced grenade count by 1 - Meh, I guess You gave heavies resistances to weaponry - Playing PC and pubs, it's really clear that heavies were overbuffed, taking one down feels like a chore, there is no "Fun" in fighting a heavy, it's just "OH GOD PLEASE DON'T SEE ME PLEASE DON'T SEE ME, WHY DO I HAVE TO RELOAD ALREADY?". 20% HP reduction was a bit too much, but a 10% reduction considering most of the rifles go reduced by 10% would seem fair. /me activates flame shield No. Heavies are supposed to be superior in direct combat. Deal with it. Alright, I'll deal with it, I'll be a heavy and face **** everything. Like I did today. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries Dirt Nap Squad. 8853	Posted - 2014.04.22 20:05:00 - [88] - Quote Omega Black Zero wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Omega Black Zero wrote: Speak for yourself. I have no issues dropping heavies with laser rifle. Guess what kills me more often. Scouts. It's like rock scissor paper. And you're scissors going up against their rock, when you should be going after paper. Scouts aren't meant to be a solo class. Scouts are supposed to work together with the squad (think the moon orbiting the earth, ie the rest of the squad). Tell your squad there is a heavy and where he is located instead of trying to be the end all killer. The adjustments make plenty of sense to me. If you have a diverse squad with diverse weaponry, a heavies resistances aren't nearly powerful. Before you QQ more about heavies, try running as a squad scout instead of a solo scout and you might notice the new balances were intended to improve teamwork, not remove it from the game. Long range, against a class with no long range weaponry? As soon as the heavy gets it's own "laser", you will see why it's OP. Oh and it will get it's own laser, they won't be limited to CQC weaponry. They already have Forge gunners. They aren't limited to CQC weaponry. That's an anti material weapon that takes much more skill to wield against infantry than a laser. Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution Dirt Nap Squad. 3574	Posted - 2014.04.22 20:06:00 - [89] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Cat Merc wrote: CCP... You nerfed the rifles and SMG - Great You gave heavies explosives resistance - Alright... You reduced grenade count by 1 - Meh, I guess You gave heavies resistances to weaponry - Playing PC and pubs, it's really clear that heavies were overbuffed, taking one down feels like a chore, there is no "Fun" in fighting a heavy, it's just "OH GOD PLEASE DON'T SEE ME PLEASE DON'T SEE ME, WHY DO I HAVE TO RELOAD ALREADY?". 20% HP reduction was a bit too much, but a 10% reduction considering most of the rifles go reduced by 10% would seem fair. /me activates flame shield No. Heavies are supposed to be superior in direct combat. Deal with it. Alright, I'll deal with it, I'll be a heavy and face **** everything. Like I did today. Good. Pubs are full of stupid people who deserve to be melted. Do that.
Orin the Freak The Solecism of Limitation 805	Posted - 2014.04.22 20:07:00 - [90] - Quote Hey guys, here's an idea, why don't we wait for the tweaks to medium suits before we all jump aboard the nerf train? what if they nerf heavy suits now, and then buff medium suits? all of a sudden, man... i sure wish we had more heavies to combat all these assault suits. Also, lets not forget, more heavies = more forge guns. Or have we already forgotten what happened to all the logis? "Where are all the forge gunners?! these tanks are insane!"



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