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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:03:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:CCP... You nerfed the rifles and SMG - Great You gave heavies explosives resistance - Alright... You reduced grenade count by 1 - Meh, I guess You gave heavies resistances to weaponry -  Playing PC and pubs, it's really clear that heavies were overbuffed, taking one down feels like a chore, there is no "Fun" in fighting a heavy, it's just "OH GOD PLEASE DON'T SEE ME PLEASE DON'T SEE ME, WHY DO I HAVE TO RELOAD ALREADY?". 20% HP reduction was a bit too much, but a 10% reduction considering most of the rifles go reduced by 10% would seem fair. /me activates flame shield
No.
Heavies are supposed to be superior in direct combat.
Deal with it. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
3574
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:06:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CCP... You nerfed the rifles and SMG - Great You gave heavies explosives resistance - Alright... You reduced grenade count by 1 - Meh, I guess You gave heavies resistances to weaponry - Playing PC and pubs, it's really clear that heavies were overbuffed, taking one down feels like a chore, there is no "Fun" in fighting a heavy, it's just "OH GOD PLEASE DON'T SEE ME PLEASE DON'T SEE ME, WHY DO I HAVE TO RELOAD ALREADY?". 20% HP reduction was a bit too much, but a 10% reduction considering most of the rifles go reduced by 10% would seem fair. /me activates flame shield No. Heavies are supposed to be superior in direct combat. Deal with it. Alright, I'll deal with it, I'll be a heavy and face **** everything. Like I did today.
Good.
Pubs are full of stupid people who deserve to be melted. Do that. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
3578
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:10:00 -
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I didn't say you shouldn't use a heavy. I said you should use a heavy.
Don't ask for nerfs to the heavy just because your assault suit is worthless trash. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
3578
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:14:00 -
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Take a few steps back so you're out of their optimal. Or get behind partial cover. Than a heavy can't do anything to you, as more than 60% of his DPS is absorbed by the cover whether he aims perfectly or not.
If you're headbutting the heavy and expecting to live, you deserve to die. End of story.
That is not supposed to be a balanced engagement. You are not entitled to a fair fight in direct combat.
Deal with it. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
3578
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:17:00 -
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Then he was a moron who couldn't aim and chance placed him in that situation, not intelligent thought. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
3581
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:21:00 -
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I run sentinel, min commando, assault, logi, and tank.
You might find it insane that I have no issue with any of these things. Probably because having access to everything gives one perspective as to its weaknesses and strengths.
Most people have access to only one or two things and do nothing but cry about everything they don't understand.
Cat should know better. It's a shame he doesn't.
Cat Merc wrote:Evicer wrote: Assaulting an objective with heavies in it . Assaults have gnades, mass driver, flux nades, shotguns, re's, tanks (open objectives) proto small missiles from assault dropships, Plasma cannon......
lol dude shut up Replace that heavy with, say, an assault, a scout, a logi, or a commando, and they are in even more trouble. In all the situations you described aside from the PLC, the heavy can actually take the most beating and kill the most people before dying.
No ****. That's his INTENDED JOB.
What the ******* hell would be the purpose of a point defender that can only take as much damage as the next guy and only kill one person before dying. You could give the job to anybody and just remove the heavy suit from the game if that was the balance design. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
3584
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:29:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I run sentinel, min commando, assault, logi, and tank.
You might find it insane that I have no issue with any of these things. Probably because having access to everything gives one perspective as to its weaknesses and strengths.
Most people have access to only one or two things and do nothing but cry about everything they don't understand.
Cat should know better. It's a shame he doesn't. I know the weakness of everything, but if I speak out about it, that means I don't think that weakness is big enough. That's how I feel about heavies, I don't feel like they have much weakness.
They have no real ability to use radar on their own, they have no ability to supply themselves, they have no ability to help the team with uplinks. They have to be babysat 24/7 in serious matches or they are worthless.
They can transition between objectives at a reasonable speed if they fit pure kincats, but it cripples their EHP levels and because they are incapable of strafing properly that means they will drop incredibly fast even with all of that HP as damage application against them is perfect.
They have one job, one job only, and that is direct combat superiority. Due to their crappy movement, this means a lot of point defense. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
3584
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:36:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I run sentinel, min commando, assault, logi, and tank.
You might find it insane that I have no issue with any of these things. Probably because having access to everything gives one perspective as to its weaknesses and strengths.
Most people have access to only one or two things and do nothing but cry about everything they don't understand.
Cat should know better. It's a shame he doesn't. I know the weakness of everything, but if I speak out about it, that means I don't think that weakness is big enough. That's how I feel about heavies, I don't feel like they have much weakness. They have no real ability to use radar on their own, they have no ability to supply themselves, they have no ability to help the team with uplinks. They have to be babysat 24/7 in serious matches or they are worthless. They can transition between objectives at a reasonable speed if they fit pure kincats, but it cripples their EHP levels and because they are incapable of strafing properly that means they will drop incredibly fast even with all of that HP as damage application against them is perfect. They have one job, one job only, and that is direct combat superiority. Due to their crappy movement, this means a lot of point defense. One kin cat. That's literally all it takes to get to assault level speed. That's pure kin cat.
You love to look at unfit suit stats when making comparisons.
You will have terrible endurance compared to an assault, and you will be out of breath in no time. Then add three complex plates on top of that single kincat. Yea, you're gonna keep up with the rest of the squad? Good luck with that. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
3588
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:43:00 -
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I really hope Ydubbs doesn't actually field you in battles. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
3593
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:51:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I really hope Ydubbs doesn't actually field you in battles. Oh, how cute, now you challenge my skill? My opinions have nothing to do with how good I actually am on the field, and I do well enough there.
You don't mix plates and kincats.
But thank you for reminding me of another important issue. We really need a record of fittings lost during fights so I know who to eject. |
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Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
3593
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:54:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I really hope Ydubbs doesn't actually field you in battles. Oh, how cute, now you challenge my skill? My opinions have nothing to do with how good I actually am on the field, and I do well enough there. You don't mix plates and kincats. But thank you for reminding me of another important issue. We really need a record of fittings lost during fights so I know who to eject. "You don't mix plates and kincats." Well, I do, and it works just fine for me.
That's because you're a publord. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
3595
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Posted - 2014.04.22 21:01:00 -
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I've heard people talk about Lance tearing up the field. Of Alldin and Reg tearing up the field. Of Funkmaster tearing up the field. Of Tiberius ripping peoples heads off.
You know, I haven't heard the bards sing tales of Cat Merc The Whiny yet. I guess I'll just have to take your word for it. |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
3601
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Posted - 2014.04.22 21:27:00 -
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riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight... |
Himiko Kuronaga
Fatal Absolution
Dirt Nap Squad.
3608
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Posted - 2014.04.22 22:31:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight... I believe him. I myself have done similar things in the past.
Your threads are all terrible though. |
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