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jerrmy12 kahoalii
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:24:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Cat Merc wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:Cat Merc wrote:CCP... You nerfed the rifles and SMG - Great You gave heavies explosives resistance - Alright... You reduced grenade count by 1 - Meh, I guess You gave heavies resistances to weaponry -  Playing PC and pubs, it's really clear that heavies were overbuffed, taking one down feels like a chore, there is no "Fun" in fighting a heavy, it's just "OH GOD PLEASE DON'T SEE ME PLEASE DON'T SEE ME, WHY DO I HAVE TO RELOAD ALREADY?". 20% HP reduction was a bit too much, but a 10% reduction considering most of the rifles go reduced by 10% would seem fair. /me activates flame shield Or just nerf the living **** out of the hmg, and buff cal and min heavies slightly and reduce thier armor. No? I have no problem with the HMG being as deadly as it is, as long as I can actually fight. I can sit 30 meters out and flank the heavy, and he can still turn around and blap me after I unloaded 1/3rd of my clip into him. Some heavies I literally can't take out with a full clip. I have prof V and I still can't take them out with a full clip. That's insane. Are you supposed to take a heavy down with 1 clip? Considering it takes 4.8 seconds to empty a clip... Yes, yes they should.
Lol nope
Too fast
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:25:00 -
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The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Are you supposed to take a heavy down with 1 clip?
Funny enough, that's what he's saying. He wants to kill a heavy with 1 magazine. This is why heavies were such a joke a while back. Now heavies take a little more effort to kill, calls to nerf the HP.
It's as dumb as saying "I want to kill a tank with 1 FG mag! Nerf the tank's HP!" No
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PO0KY
Virtual Syndicate
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:29:00 -
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I would fap to any heavy nerf. |
Mortishai Belmont
G.L.O.R.Y
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:31:00 -
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Shotguns still kill me in 2 hits and plenty of guns mow me down. Im full proto everything heavy, they dont need a nerf., your just doing it wrong o.o
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:31:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:The Terminator T-1000 wrote:Are you supposed to take a heavy down with 1 clip? Funny enough, that's what he's saying. He wants to kill a heavy with 1 magazine. This is why heavies were such a joke a while back. Now heavies take a little more effort to kill, calls to nerf the HP. It's as dumb as saying "I want to kill a tank with 1 FG mag! Nerf the tank's HP!" No
Heavies were a joke because the HMG didn't work right.
They buffed the HMG, and they became badass.
I saw a healthy balance in PC, people brought heavies, but they weren't 50% of the enemy team.
Then the weapons nerf happened, proficiency nerfs, resistances buffs, and grenades nerfs, and suddenly heavies are 50% or more of the people in PC matches and are not fun to fight against, they feel like annoying roadblocks that you either have to go around or shoot at for 10 minutes until they go down.
Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:31:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Atiim wrote:They seem to be fine against it's hard counters:
- Remote Explosives
- Shotguns
- Nova Knives
How about we solve the real problems and remove the HMG's snare effect, along with reducing it's turn speeds? Let's see what happens afterwards, and make further changes if necessary. Along with that a 10% eHP reduction could easily make the Minmatar & Caldari heavies the worst options for Sentinel users. Remote explosives - Most can survive them, and scouts/logis scanning around tend to get rid of them Shotguns - Without cloaks they would be ****, even then a fully tanked heavy can take 5 shotgun shots Nova Knives - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
5 shotgun shots ???
You can't base your encounters off of facing prototype suits , that's just dangerous .
That's the problem with people that ask for an item to be nerfed .. they base that off of their encounters with prototype items and that's why this game is in the state that it is now and that's unbalanced .
I use a Caldari sentinel series and it takes three to four shotgun shots .
Three most of the time .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:32:00 -
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PO0KY wrote:I would fap to any heavy nerf.
Point on the doll where the heavy touched you....
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:33:00 -
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Heavies feel like MAX units in Planetside 2.
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Aszazel
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:33:00 -
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Heavies are fine, you can almost one shot a basic with a basic shotgun, if you are dying to higher tiered, well you have to use a higher tiered shotgun. This is coming from a scout who almost ONLY dies from heavies. I would like to see their turn speed decreased though, except for the minimatar heavy. That thing is gimped enough, and when I run into one that I can take down to 100 armor in one shotgun hit, then I DIE because I can't manage to hit him ONE MORE TIME, well hats off to putting kin kats on a heavy dude.
Likewise I think scouts are a little overpowered, I'll be the first to say that AS a scout. However, CCP has painted us into a corner, I can't really run without a cloak cause everyone has them and I can't see them even with double precision so my defense is to use a cloak myself, however, changing the delay of the cloak before firing means not even being able to react when two scouts run across each other unexpectedly. Honestly, if the cloak was to be taken away completely I wouldn't mind, I have learned to use it as a crutch.
Remove the slow on hit effect and change scouts profile/precision back to 45/40 like it was pre 1.8. Give ALL scouts the 5% dampening per level and you will see a balanced return, keep the scanners, widen them all to 60%, make it so you can't spin while using and reduce the recharge time. EWAR is fixed, speed tanking is fixed and with mediums coming back you won't get so many heavies.
I'd say give the mediums about double base health, they aren't going to be heavies but a sec of more survivability might get people using them again.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
8844
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:34:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Atiim wrote:They seem to be fine against it's hard counters:
- Remote Explosives
- Shotguns
- Nova Knives
How about we solve the real problems and remove the HMG's snare effect, along with reducing it's turn speeds? Let's see what happens afterwards, and make further changes if necessary. Along with that a 10% eHP reduction could easily make the Minmatar & Caldari heavies the worst options for Sentinel users. Remote explosives - Most can survive them, and scouts/logis scanning around tend to get rid of them Shotguns - Without cloaks they would be ****, even then a fully tanked heavy can take 5 shotgun shots Nova Knives - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA 5 shotgun shots ??? You can't base your encounters off of facing prototype suits , that's just dangerous . That's the problem with people that ask for an item to be nerfed .. they base that off of their encounters with prototype items and that's why this game is in the state that it is now and that's unbalanced . I use a Caldari sentinel series and it takes three to four shotgun shots .
Considering that the shotgun is prototype, I think that's a fair comparison.
Even 4 is too much, shotguns have a very slow fire rate, no scout had managed to pump 4 shotgun shots into my heavy and live.
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:35:00 -
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Aszazel wrote:Heavies are fine, you can almost one shot a basic with a basic shotgun, if you are dying to higher tiered, well you have to use a higher tiered shotgun. This is coming from a scout who almost ONLY dies from heavies. I would like to see their turn speed decreased though, except for the minimatar heavy. That thing is gimped enough, and when I run into one that I can take down to 100 armor in one shotgun hit, then I DIE because I can't manage to hit him ONE MORE TIME, well hats off to putting kin kats on a heavy dude.
Likewise I think scouts are a little overpowered, I'll be the first to say that AS a scout. However, CCP has painted us into a corner, I can't really run without a cloak cause everyone has them and I can't see them even with double precision so my defense is to use a cloak myself, however, changing the delay of the cloak before firing means not even being able to react when two scouts run across each other unexpectedly. Honestly, if the cloak was to be taken away completely I wouldn't mind, I have learned to use it as a crutch.
Remove the slow on hit effect and change scouts profile/precision back to 45/40 like it was pre 1.8. Give ALL scouts the 5% dampening per level and you will see a balanced return, keep the scanners, widen them all to 60%, make it so you can't spin while using and reduce the recharge time. EWAR is fixed, speed tanking is fixed and with mediums coming back you won't get so many heavies.
I'd say give the mediums about double base health, they aren't going to be heavies but a sec of more survivability might get people using them again.
I was using an assault suit bud.
I wasn't shotgunning them with a scout, and btw, that DOESN'T WORK in PC.
They simply take it, turn around and insta kill you.
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Fire of Prometheus
Alpha Response Command
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:36:00 -
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Just to illustrate the amount of sheer ehp a proto gal sentinel can rack up, I'm going it tell a story:
I was playing ambush and the enemies pulled out some tanks (wow never seen thIs before), so we managed to put uplinks ontop of a roof and start forging the fools.
An enemy came down in a dropship and hopped out just as I had finished charging a **** from my 9k330 FG.
I blasted the proto gal sentinel point blank.....he jumped back in his DS with about 250 armour left.....
I hit him with a flipping point blank shot from my 9K330 FG!!!! And he walked away!!!!!
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:36:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Atiim wrote:They seem to be fine against it's hard counters:
- Remote Explosives
- Shotguns
- Nova Knives
How about we solve the real problems and remove the HMG's snare effect, along with reducing it's turn speeds? Let's see what happens afterwards, and make further changes if necessary. Along with that a 10% eHP reduction could easily make the Minmatar & Caldari heavies the worst options for Sentinel users. Remote explosives - Most can survive them, and scouts/logis scanning around tend to get rid of them Shotguns - Without cloaks they would be ****, even then a fully tanked heavy can take 5 shotgun shots Nova Knives - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Why are you laughing at Nova Knives? I know a few scouts that absolutely destroy Heavies with it. I myself have been killed before i could turn around. After checking the killfeed, wowsers an NK. They are apparently extremely deadly for those who know how to use it. I am not one of them...**** those knives. 
True ... so true .
Another attempt at killing someone's role and eventually the game .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
Proficiency V.
1127
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:37:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:Just to illustrate the amount of sheer ehp a proto gal sentinel can rack up, I'm going it tell a story:
I was playing ambush and the enemies pulled out some tanks (wow never seen thIs before), so we managed to put uplinks ontop of a roof and start forging the fools.
An enemy came down in a dropship and hopped out just as I had finished charging a **** from my 9k330 FG.
I blasted the proto gal sentinel point blank.....he jumped back in his DS with about 250 armour left.....
I hit him with a flipping point blank shot from my 9K330 FG!!!! And he walked away!!!!!
Good, now thats balanced.
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Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:38:00 -
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So cloaked scouts with RE's and shotguns can assault objectives hack them while cloaked and because of there signature profile do all this without being seen by a suit that cant see them on radar. Im sick of going back and forth with this. The counter point to the cloaked scout is the slowest suit in the game camping the objective. doing point defense thats what it does. meanwhile scouts ar eup above and throwing "alpha" damage Re's have "alpha" damage shotguns can strafe faster ARE UNSEEN.
DUMB THREAD IS DUMB THREAD.
GET GOOD YOU ******* SCRUBS ITS A GODAMNED HEAVY WITH AN HMG.... SKILL IT AN ASSAULT THE OBJECTIVE WITH THE ASSAULTS
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
4963
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:38:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:
Heavies were a joke because the HMG didn't work right.
They buffed the HMG, and they became badass.
I saw a healthy balance in PC, people brought heavies, but they weren't 50% of the enemy team.
Then the weapons nerf happened, proficiency nerfs, resistances buffs, and grenades nerfs, and suddenly heavies are 50% or more of the people in PC matches and are not fun to fight against, they feel like annoying roadblocks that you either have to go around or shoot at for 10 minutes until they go down.
Heavies were a joke NOT JUST because the HMG was poop. The turn speed was bad, the nade spam, MD spam, ARs being out of balance, AA...
You name it, heavies felt it worse because their huge hitbox and speed compounded every problem.
Heavies are SUPPOSE a problem to get rid of. Not just throw a nade at one or 1 magazine... like heavies were since Chromosome! A joke. Before Chromosome heavies were feared, and you respected their presence, as you should.
They have an actual TTK now, and that's a problem? I thought people wanted a better TTK?
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
8844
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:38:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Duran Lex wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Atiim wrote:They seem to be fine against it's hard counters:
- Remote Explosives
- Shotguns
- Nova Knives
How about we solve the real problems and remove the HMG's snare effect, along with reducing it's turn speeds? Let's see what happens afterwards, and make further changes if necessary. Along with that a 10% eHP reduction could easily make the Minmatar & Caldari heavies the worst options for Sentinel users. Remote explosives - Most can survive them, and scouts/logis scanning around tend to get rid of them Shotguns - Without cloaks they would be ****, even then a fully tanked heavy can take 5 shotgun shots Nova Knives - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Why are you laughing at Nova Knives? I know a few scouts that absolutely destroy Heavies with it. I myself have been killed before i could turn around. After checking the killfeed, wowsers an NK. They are apparently extremely deadly for those who know how to use it. I am not one of them...**** those knives. True ... so true . Another attempt at killing someone's role and eventually the game .
I'm sorry but what?
When a role is 50% of the units you see in PC, that usually means something is wrong.
Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:40:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Cat Merc wrote:
Heavies were a joke because the HMG didn't work right.
They buffed the HMG, and they became badass.
I saw a healthy balance in PC, people brought heavies, but they weren't 50% of the enemy team.
Then the weapons nerf happened, proficiency nerfs, resistances buffs, and grenades nerfs, and suddenly heavies are 50% or more of the people in PC matches and are not fun to fight against, they feel like annoying roadblocks that you either have to go around or shoot at for 10 minutes until they go down.
Heavies were a joke NOT JUST because the HMG was poop. The turn speed was bad, the nade spam, MD spam, ARs being out of balance, AA... You name it, heavies felt it worse because their huge hitbox and speed compounded every problem. Heavies are SUPPOSE a problem to get rid of. Not just throw a nade at one or 1 magazine... like heavies were since Chromosome! A joke. Before Chromosome heavies were feared, and you respected their presence, as you should. They have an actual TTK now, and that's a problem? I thought people wanted a better TTK?
Heavies got a lot of buffs, and yet they still sucked.
HP buff, turn speed buff, you name it.
Suddenly, CCP fixed the HMG and buffed it, and people started using them in PC.
Ya know, the place where everyone brings the most tryhard suit they can?
I'm sorry but that just means the heavy was fine before, and now it's too powerful.
Also, just so you know, a heavy is ONE kin cat away from assault speed.
And you want it to take more than one clip to take something down that can instantly kill you?
That's as OP as it gets, like literally I rather fight tank spam since I can hide from tanks.
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Jake Diesel
BIG BAD W0LVES
Canis Eliminatus Operatives
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:41:00 -
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Atiim wrote:They seem to be fine against it's hard counters:
- Remote Explosives
- Shotguns
- Nova Knives
How about we solve the real problems and remove the HMG's snare effect, along with reducing it's turn speeds? Let's see what happens afterwards, and make further changes if necessary. Along with that a 10% eHP reduction could easily make the Minmatar & Caldari heavies the worst options for Sentinel users.
Lol. They are the worst options for sentinel users. Minmatar is only good for flanking speed and Caldari for the damage mods. But the damage mods only apply well to high damage weapons like the forge gun. High ROF weapons like HMG's are not so dramatic in damage effect. |
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:41:00 -
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This is why this game is crap right now is because of posts like these and the players who back them .
It's not even funny anymore and it's killing the desire to even play this game and even more to look on the forums to see such .
I wish they would just kill the forums already .
The amount of ignorance that comes out of this forum and some of these players mouths is just unmeasurable .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:42:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:
I'm sorry but what?
When a role is 50% of the units you see in PC, that usually means something is wrong.
You mean like when Medium suits were 90% of the team a few updates back? It was fine then right?
( ._.) <('.'<)
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:43:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:This is why this game is crap right now is because of posts like these and the players who back them .
It's not even funny anymore and it's killing the desire to even play this game and even more to look on the forums to see such .
I wish they would just kill the forums already .
The amount of ignorance that comes out of this forum and some of these players mouths is just unmeasurable .
Excuse me for noticing an imbalance that I didn't report until I was sure of it.
This isn't me going out of a single heavy spam match and posting this, this was over the entire 1.8, every match, every PC battle, every single one I noticed heavies were a bit absurd.
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Lance 2ballzStrong
SyNergy Gaming
EoN.
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:43:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I'm sorry but that just means the heavy was fine before, and now it's too powerful.
Heavies were fine before? Before what? I'm asking before I give my opinion on that statement.
( ._.) <('.'<)
"There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
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Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:43:00 -
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:This is why this game is crap right now is because of posts like these and the players who back them .
It's not even funny anymore and it's killing the desire to even play this game and even more to look on the forums to see such .
I wish they would just kill the forums already .
The amount of ignorance that comes out of this forum and some of these players mouths is just unmeasurable .
So true omg so true
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Cat Merc
Ahrendee Mercenaries
Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:44:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Cat Merc wrote:
I'm sorry but what?
When a role is 50% of the units you see in PC, that usually means something is wrong.
You mean like when Medium suits were 90% of the team a few updates back? It was fine then right?
No, no it wasn't.
Get your head out of your ass, I'm looking for balance, not for dominance.
I was using my Assault suit with AR today for fucks sake, that should tell you how much I care about being OP.
Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
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Evicer
THE HECATONCHIRES
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:44:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I'm sorry but that just means the heavy was fine before, and now it's too powerful. Heavies were fine before? Before what? I'm asking before I give my opinion on that statement.
he has no point his agenda is he wants more parlor tricks to kill heavies
as if the sig the cloak Re's a shotgun and faster strafing speed wasnt enough
Nova knives?
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:45:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Duran Lex wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Atiim wrote:They seem to be fine against it's hard counters:
- Remote Explosives
- Shotguns
- Nova Knives
How about we solve the real problems and remove the HMG's snare effect, along with reducing it's turn speeds? Let's see what happens afterwards, and make further changes if necessary. Along with that a 10% eHP reduction could easily make the Minmatar & Caldari heavies the worst options for Sentinel users. Remote explosives - Most can survive them, and scouts/logis scanning around tend to get rid of them Shotguns - Without cloaks they would be ****, even then a fully tanked heavy can take 5 shotgun shots Nova Knives - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Why are you laughing at Nova Knives? I know a few scouts that absolutely destroy Heavies with it. I myself have been killed before i could turn around. After checking the killfeed, wowsers an NK. They are apparently extremely deadly for those who know how to use it. I am not one of them...**** those knives. True ... so true . Another attempt at killing someone's role and eventually the game . I'm sorry but what? The same could be said about scouts then but you would NEVER hear me asking for a scout nerf . That's because the assault suit is a non factor right now . I have played matches with full scout squads , now you might be able to say the same about heavies but every match it's either heavies and scouts or more scouts than heavies and this can not be denied . GET GUD SCRUB . When a role is 50% of the units you see in PC, that usually means something is wrong.
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Cat Merc
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Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:45:00 -
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Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I'm sorry but that just means the heavy was fine before, and now it's too powerful. Heavies were fine before? Before what? I'm asking before I give my opinion on that statement.
1.7, after the HMG buff.
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Heimdallr69
Heaven's Lost Property
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:46:00 -
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Mortishai Belmont wrote:Shotguns still kill me in 2 hits and plenty of guns mow me down. Im full proto everything heavy, they dont need a nerf., your just doing it wrong o.o
Some people use assaults. I know I'm rare but that doesn't mean cuz no one uses it it should be dirt. A shotgun can kill me so I'm not OP dumbest thing I've heard.. Not everyone runs heavies or scouts.. Keep the turn speed idc but the range needs fixed.
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Cat Merc
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:46:00 -
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Evicer wrote:Lance 2ballzStrong wrote:Cat Merc wrote:I'm sorry but that just means the heavy was fine before, and now it's too powerful. Heavies were fine before? Before what? I'm asking before I give my opinion on that statement. he has no point his agenda is he wants more parlor tricks to kill heavies as if the sig the cloak Re's a shotgun and faster strafing speed wasnt enough
No, it's not enough actually.
Considering in my heavy suit I don't consider any of those a real threat I can't deal with.
Overlord of all humans CAT MERC
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