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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:31:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Atiim wrote:They seem to be fine against it's hard counters:
- Remote Explosives
- Shotguns
- Nova Knives
How about we solve the real problems and remove the HMG's snare effect, along with reducing it's turn speeds? Let's see what happens afterwards, and make further changes if necessary. Along with that a 10% eHP reduction could easily make the Minmatar & Caldari heavies the worst options for Sentinel users. Remote explosives - Most can survive them, and scouts/logis scanning around tend to get rid of them Shotguns - Without cloaks they would be ****, even then a fully tanked heavy can take 5 shotgun shots Nova Knives - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
5 shotgun shots ???
You can't base your encounters off of facing prototype suits , that's just dangerous .
That's the problem with people that ask for an item to be nerfed .. they base that off of their encounters with prototype items and that's why this game is in the state that it is now and that's unbalanced .
I use a Caldari sentinel series and it takes three to four shotgun shots .
Three most of the time .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:36:00 -
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Duran Lex wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Atiim wrote:They seem to be fine against it's hard counters:
- Remote Explosives
- Shotguns
- Nova Knives
How about we solve the real problems and remove the HMG's snare effect, along with reducing it's turn speeds? Let's see what happens afterwards, and make further changes if necessary. Along with that a 10% eHP reduction could easily make the Minmatar & Caldari heavies the worst options for Sentinel users. Remote explosives - Most can survive them, and scouts/logis scanning around tend to get rid of them Shotguns - Without cloaks they would be ****, even then a fully tanked heavy can take 5 shotgun shots Nova Knives - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Why are you laughing at Nova Knives? I know a few scouts that absolutely destroy Heavies with it. I myself have been killed before i could turn around. After checking the killfeed, wowsers an NK. They are apparently extremely deadly for those who know how to use it. I am not one of them...**** those knives. 
True ... so true .
Another attempt at killing someone's role and eventually the game .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:41:00 -
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This is why this game is crap right now is because of posts like these and the players who back them .
It's not even funny anymore and it's killing the desire to even play this game and even more to look on the forums to see such .
I wish they would just kill the forums already .
The amount of ignorance that comes out of this forum and some of these players mouths is just unmeasurable .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:45:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Duran Lex wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Atiim wrote:They seem to be fine against it's hard counters:
- Remote Explosives
- Shotguns
- Nova Knives
How about we solve the real problems and remove the HMG's snare effect, along with reducing it's turn speeds? Let's see what happens afterwards, and make further changes if necessary. Along with that a 10% eHP reduction could easily make the Minmatar & Caldari heavies the worst options for Sentinel users. Remote explosives - Most can survive them, and scouts/logis scanning around tend to get rid of them Shotguns - Without cloaks they would be ****, even then a fully tanked heavy can take 5 shotgun shots Nova Knives - HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Why are you laughing at Nova Knives? I know a few scouts that absolutely destroy Heavies with it. I myself have been killed before i could turn around. After checking the killfeed, wowsers an NK. They are apparently extremely deadly for those who know how to use it. I am not one of them...**** those knives. True ... so true . Another attempt at killing someone's role and eventually the game . I'm sorry but what? The same could be said about scouts then but you would NEVER hear me asking for a scout nerf . That's because the assault suit is a non factor right now . I have played matches with full scout squads , now you might be able to say the same about heavies but every match it's either heavies and scouts or more scouts than heavies and this can not be denied . GET GUD SCRUB . When a role is 50% of the units you see in PC, that usually means something is wrong.
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
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Posted - 2014.04.22 19:50:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:This is why this game is crap right now is because of posts like these and the players who back them .
It's not even funny anymore and it's killing the desire to even play this game and even more to look on the forums to see such .
I wish they would just kill the forums already .
The amount of ignorance that comes out of this forum and some of these players mouths is just unmeasurable . Excuse me for noticing an imbalance that I didn't report until I was sure of it. This isn't me going out of a single heavy spam match and posting this, this was over the entire 1.8, every match, every PC battle, every single one I noticed heavies were a bit absurd.
Like I said , assault suits are a non factor , so that means kill everything else ???
Why not propose ways to better the classes that are lacking instead of killing roles that are just beginning to actually have a place in the game .
That might just be too much like right .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:10:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:This is why this game is crap right now is because of posts like these and the players who back them .
It's not even funny anymore and it's killing the desire to even play this game and even more to look on the forums to see such .
I wish they would just kill the forums already .
The amount of ignorance that comes out of this forum and some of these players mouths is just unmeasurable . Excuse me for noticing an imbalance that I didn't report until I was sure of it. This isn't me going out of a single heavy spam match and posting this, this was over the entire 1.8, every match, every PC battle, every single one I noticed heavies were a bit absurd. Like I said , assault suits are a non factor , so that means kill everything else ??? Why not propose ways to better the classes that are lacking instead of killing roles that are just beginning to actually have a place in the game . That might just be too much like right . Considering I am using every class other than the logistics, I don't think this is just an assault problem.
I don't see to many assault's or logi's and to me that's more of a problem .
My plan was to be a medi-logi but compartmentalizing role bonuses for races turned me off of that one .
Heavies and scouts have more defined roles than the other two so that's why you see more players using those roles , they understand what they are getting instead of jumping threw hoops to be a factor like one has to do while playing assault or logi .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:19:00 -
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Orin the Freak wrote:Hey guys, here's an idea, why don't we wait for the tweaks to medium suits before we all jump aboard the nerf train? what if they nerf heavy suits now, and then buff medium suits? all of a sudden, man... i sure wish we had more heavies to combat all these assault suits.
Also, lets not forget, more heavies = more forge guns. Or have we already forgotten what happened to all the logis? "Where are all the forge gunners?! these tanks are insane!"
They killed this logi with those silly bonuses .
I'm Caldari so why must I be Minmatar to use a rep tool efficiently ???
I understand the lore and all but come on , they just could have came up with better bonuses for logi's and assault's .
It was like they became tired of thinking of anything productive so they just threw darts at the board to see what would stick .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:33:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Himiko Kuronaga wrote:I run sentinel, min commando, assault, logi, and tank.
You might find it insane that I have no issue with any of these things. Probably because having access to everything gives one perspective as to its weaknesses and strengths.
Most people have access to only one or two things and do nothing but cry about everything they don't understand.
Cat should know better. It's a shame he doesn't. I know the weakness of everything, but if I speak out about it, that means I don't think that weakness is big enough. That's how I feel about heavies, I don't feel like they have much weakness.
Speck into Caldari sentinel's and then talk to me about weakness .
Some like them but their based around one of the weakest items of the game and that's shield's .
Players see them and rush them immediately because of the shield regen .
When Caldari sentinel's rush me I know just what to do and that's drop them to the floor because that's not how one play's with that suit .
It's not a brawler and I can drop them with no problem and with magsec smg's , Gal assault rifle's and RR's .
Hell any AR will do for those who don't know how to use them .
Use Caldari and you won't sing the nerf song at all .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui
The Containment Unit
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Posted - 2014.04.22 20:41:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:Their resistance bonus doesn't work, 1 remote and i still die with over 1000 HP. Change their bonus to something else so the resistance ins't OP.
I was about to say the same thing but if it changes then it might need a buff .
It's always some slight thing that tips it in one direction or another and most of the time it's something that people think is not needed .
Stop asking for tiercide , your killing variety and the fun of this game at the same dam time .
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