I'm just confused though, suit bonuses pre 1.8 didn't stack on unrelated suits, and post 1.8 other suits do not have stacking bonuses (For example speccing into all commandos isn't going to give you a % bonus to all commando suits for all damage types) why would people think logi suit bonuses wouldn't behave like all the other suits? Did you guys think the caldari rapid reload would work on gallente assaults?

Maybe because of this:
Charge the point drop a couple up-links and take the objective battle across the road and take the supply unit drop a couple up-links. now I'm standing in front of a supply unit with no equipment and hear "I need AMMO"
So what do i do?
give up the 3 second up-links to give him ammo?
Wear the Amarr and waste isk on bad nanohives?
As any good Logi would do I would switch to a min suit and give him the good stuff and waste isk on bad up-links.
What the F*ck did I spend 2.8 mil SP for?

Oh, you didn't want to spend a proto suit to just get faster spawns and lots of WP while you play johnny rep tool? Tough.

No free lunches.

I know how they can end the boringness, they can join all the other classes in shooting things. I hear it's all the rave in a first person shooter.

The bonus applies to suits of all levels, so he could drop two different kinds of proto uplinks from a basic suit if he wanted to and get the same effect.

In addition to that, I don't think dying allows you to keep the equipment bonus. If you change suits, the bonus goes away.

Wanting your equipment to work even if you've changed suits doesn't necessarily imply you are an equipment spammer. Dropping two uplinks and then changing to follow your heavy around is a valid tactic that actually contributes to the team as a whole.

I realize spamming a supply depot with uplinks and then spamming it with nanohives and then repping a heavy near it is a tactic that has very little benefit to the team as a whole. It just causes lag and inflates the WP score without adding much to actually winning the match, but not everyone who wants to drop an uplink and swap to a scout or a rep logi is trying to exploit the server capacity.

Whether one likes SirManBoy and his corp or not is irrelevant, in this case he's got a point and I think it's worth actually debating.

Now I'm off to eat my lunch, which happens to have been provided to me by my work at no cost.

Some of us logis have, er, aiming problems...

There's a reason snipers snipe and logi's logi. I got news for you, it ain't because we're good at assaulting things

Maybe because of this:
I specced into assault Caldari and assault Gallente.
I run my Caldari with rail tech for that extra reload speed and then I get stuck in a close quarters situation near a supply depot/the enemy is fighting inside a building. What now? I change to the gallente and waste the reload bonus I earned on the Caldari Assault?

What the **** did I spend 2.8mil SP for?

I don't know... why would you run two assault suits to proto instead of running a different suit/more upgrades?

Yes, this is what you are arguing.

pathetic retort
i have the same problem with my weapons
how much isk did you put into your fast reload speed?
where is the fast reload speed module in the market?
You see we pay for the uplinks and pay for the nanohives and pay for the rep tools...

I'm noticing that the uplinks I drop as an Amarr aren't retaining their bonus as I change suits throughout a match. As a multiracially spec'd logi who tries to adapt to ever-changing conditions on the field, I find this totally unacceptable and tactically nonsensical.

Bottom line, is this an error/bug, or is this intentional?

My position is this...if you drop a piece of bonus-enhanced equipment then it should retain its effectiveness for as long as it is functional. In other words, suit changes shouldn't cause previously deployed bonus-enhanced equipment to lose its efficacy.

What's going on here, CCP?

I can understand this a little due to the fact I run logi suits and have dumped all my SP in it so I can be a better logi just to find out if I change my suit to better help my team I get penalized but it is what it is.

Unfortunately we either A. don't have enough equipment slots or B not enough CPU/PG. I am still trying to find balance here LOL!! I need a scanner, no wait I need to drop more uplinks....... Wait I need a rep tool........ crap, now I need a nanite injector!!!! Hey where's the nanohives? I am out of ammo .......... I NEED A DRINK!!! but I love my logi suits and I love being the happy helperton

IMO the spam doesn't just come from logi's. It's from everybody who's anybody who has an equipment slot on their suit and feels the need to carry an uplink or nanohive. Maybe we need to get more suit specific and if your NOT in a logi suit you CANNOT carry uplinks ........ I don't know I am still learning.

I appreciate those of you who appreciate the logi and the nanite injector because you would have lost a suit, or the rep tool to help you stand a chance against the sea of boundless heavies or the nanohive so you don't have to run half way across the map just to refill on ammo and risk running into a swarm of red and I appreciate the other classes for covering my arse so I can do my job too :-)!!

Well one logi was never supposed to be able to do everything. That's why logis are upset now, because CCP said, "Ooops, you weren't supposed to be able to cover all logistic support!" Which isn't entirely true, you can still drop hives, drop uplinks, swap suits and run around with a rep tool and nanite and/or scanner. You just won't get all bonuses, which comes back to the whole, commandos, scouts. assault, and sentinels do not get all racial bonuses on each suit why should logis?

The equipment still works. Just you don't get to keep the Rapid Reload bonus from Caldari Assault when you switch to a Gallente Assault. Yes I know it's Logis, but why should Logis not follow the rules that all other suits follow?

Well one logi was never supposed to be able to do everything. That's why logis are upset now, because CCP said, "Ooops, you weren't supposed to be able to cover all logistic support!" Which isn't entirely true, you can still drop hives, drop uplinks, swap suits and run around with a rep tool and nanite and/or scanner. You just won't get all bonuses, which comes back to the whole, commandos, scouts. assault, and sentinels do not get all racial bonuses on each suit why should logis?

Buwhahahaa....

yeah its a nerf to me too but its something I can live with as I don't abuse it.

Also protesting by just spamming justifies the equipment nerf that did come in 1.8...

Hey, a somewhat-official voice! Can you (or anyone, for f*cks sake) provide a link or get a dev comment on exactly how the equipment bonuses work?

My main question is this: if I die and respawn in an Amarr logi suit, do my uplinks keep the bonus?
(I would also like to know the same about supply depots, but less important.)

Well one logi was never supposed to be able to do everything. That's why logis are upset now, because CCP said, "Ooops, you weren't supposed to be able to cover all logistic support!" Which isn't entirely true, you can still drop hives, drop uplinks, swap suits and run around with a rep tool and nanite and/or scanner. You just won't get all bonuses, which comes back to the whole, commandos, scouts. assault, and sentinels do not get all racial bonuses on each suit why should logis?

I know how they can end the boringness, they can join all the other classes in shooting things. I hear it's all the rave in a first person shooter.

The equipment still works. Just you don't get to keep the Rapid Reload bonus from Caldari Assault when you switch to a Gallente Assault. Yes I know it's Logis, but why should Logis not follow the rules that all other suits follow?

Because CCP sucks?

Why is it on me to explain why CCP produced a flying turd again?

Right now, if you die in the suit, you keep the bonuses. So if you want to keep the low spawn time links, and then run a min logi for quality reps, that is how you do it.

FFS, give someone a tip and watch them flap themselves into a tizzy trying to be mad.

Stupid scrub.

Faster spawn times are far more strategically important than better hives, so that means Amar over Cadari in the new world order.

If the equipment is drawing CPU and power from my suit all the way across the map, just think about the possibilities of powering suits off of the MCC. Just imagine not having to worry about fitting requirements. Someone should get to work on ths right away!

The Amarr is the least equippy one though at the same time and is slightly faster then a fatty. So there is a drawback, just super saiyan. The Amarr is the most combat oriented of the Logis so it would make sense that they would carry the drop and forget uplinks... they are the new swarm launchers!!! OP!!!!!!!111!!!!! Imma cry they ruined my toy you can't even logi anymore since you can't get all bonuses at once my ***** hurt so imma break all mah toys!!!

Technically there are differences in logi like the other suits that make them still fit a specific play style, but yes if you over simplify and power game we should all be running blaster tanks right now anyways.