Yep i vote yes to kick russians out

**** the russians, they have no right to be in Crimea.

Get stuffed idiot, you don't know what you are even talking about.

For those who care to learn a bit before making braindead comments on it, here's some basic info on the situation:


Crimea is part of Ukraine which used to be a part of Russia. Crimea has been a largely pro-Russian area of the Ukraine for some years now. It's not like Russia is invading Ireland or anything, they were annexing Crimea to get the Ukrainian military out of it so that Crimea could become a part of Russia again. As of right now, Putin is insisting that they have no intentions to further hassle Ukraine.

On the flip side, this action was brash and violated several international laws. Russia did something similar years ago with Georgia (the country, not the state), but I really don't recall what happened with that.... it kinda got fogged out with all of our stupid war bullshit over here in the US. Our news pretty much stopped covering it and we lost interest. Anyway, they pretty much got away with hitting Georgia. That means the international community is taking this latest action very seriously.


And that is a VERY basic rundown of the situation. Now, people, please learn about the topic before you post on it....

What's the difference between invading it and invading Ireland?
Ukraine is a sovereign country and has a treaty with Russia.

Russia has no place in Crimea beyond what the treaty allows and Ukrainians have already been killed.
It's an invasion.

a fun strategy i heard:
start putting some of the strategic oil reserve onto the market
gas prices get cheaper for everyone, and the collective price drop really hurts russia's economy (up to 10% of its gpd, which is massive)
and considering how huge the SOR is, we could keep this up for 14 years, YEARS

Well, I have read some amazing article about this.
Basically, America is always trying to beat Russia one way or another. And it has a very interesting way of doing it.
CIA funded Alkaida, and many other coups. You know why? Because... China. Let me explain. Syberia has some awesome resources that China needs. They are very resource dependent and they suck them up like a sponge. So America is slowly making their way towards Russia, by placing their military bases closer and closer, and trying to deny Russia anything that they can without causing a **** storm.


Now ,every time China was close to acquiring something useful, some stuff would happen that would not allow them to get the resources. They are starting to get desperate and that is exactly what US wants - for China to start looking into Syberia, since it's so incredibly close and has ALL the stuff they need.

USA was trying to get rid of Russia's power for tens of years now. Does it seem brutal? Yes.
But I approve. My countryr (Poland) is close to Russia. They were always affecting my country one way or another. A lot of people don't know how crazy the russians are, how horrible.
My girlfriend's grand grand mother told her an interesting story from the WWII. We were pretty much occupied by both Germany and Russia, and what that old lady said was that when Germans were coming to her farm, they would always be clean, washed, smelled good and were polite.
Now, when Russians used to come to the farm, they'd be absolutely filthy, smelled like ****, did not even ask for permission to take anything from the farm and they were abusive.
This is a good example of how the whole Russia treats other people. This country is a mess, in a huge debt and is one big mafia.

Russia should never be in power of anything. They will destroy it, suck it out of all the money and profits so a couple of politicians can stuff their wallets. They were ruthless during Stalin's rule, they were ruthless before that, and they are known for stuffing their citizens throats with propaganda.

Some of you have no idea how **** that country is. I wish I didn't have to live near it. We grow up reading books about Russification (occupation where we can't speak another language other than Russian, where the intelligent Polish people were often killed to try and make the country dumber), gulags, Katyn disaster and so on. They have a history of being liars, backstabbers, filthy alcoholics that HAVE TO BE STOPPED one way or another.

So, even though America is doing something very mean and I do not fully approve, I think it is necessary to finally start getting rid of the evil.

Hi.tler invaded some countries that used to be part of Germany before WW1.

Your argument is invalid.


Oh yeah, who the hell said I was from the US. Im british. So stop giving me US examples.

Russia did invade according to the media, you have to look at both sides to see if its an invasion or a reclamation.

That's a poor explanation at best. When the Ukrainians ousted their president they put in a president who is very pro west and anti east and is pretty open about that. There were talks in this new government to cancel the lease to the Russians allowing their ships in the black sea fleet to be stationed there. This lease was to last until 2042. The port in Crimea is a massive strategic port for the Russians and is what allows them to project power into the black sea, Mediterranean, and Indian ocean.
It would be stupid for the Russians not to act, as they would either have to send billions of monies to the south of Russia to build a suitable port, or they would have to seriously reduce their black sea fleet if the lease was canceled. This is not the first time the Ukrainian government have tried to cancel The lease, and as important as the port is in Crimea I'm not surprised the Russians are trying to annex it. Though the people of Crimea seem quite content to join the Russian federation.

The real question is what business does the united states have there? I'm sure its because of the same strategic port. The us doesn't want the Russians to have it for themselves. Though the us has pulled similar moves to the one Russia is taking with Crimea, so it's pretty ironic they are coming down so hard on them.

I don't know much about what happened with Georgia back in 2009, I think the Russians grabbed a bunch of their land, like a third of it. Iqouod have to look into that one, however the situation in Crimea is understandable, that port is very important to the Russians.

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f91/Shaunessy/Criminal_zps0f0a5c90.jpg

Anyone that say it was needed for Russia to project power into the black sea is fooling themselves. Russia enjoys a long border with the black sea. Infact the latest Olympics, held by Russia, is right on the black sea as witnessed in this pic here. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f91/Shaunessy/sochi_zpsd148e2b5.jpg

So what was your argument again?

Ok here is talk about yanks beeing in afghanistan,but some of you people may remember.russian`s/soviet`s was also in there,and they got their asses kicked by afghans

Cont letter from Putin

You might as well learn two additional concepts: CTO, which stands for Counter Terror Operation, and hexogen. This is important. For real. And in future, try to avoid places with other people, train stations, airports - well, especially train stations and airports - bus stations, markets, concerts and crowds in general.

If you still have to fly, make sure to be at the airport three hours in advance. At each entrance, there will be check points. Better not joke with the guards. Shave off your beard. Lighten your hair. Turn your pockets inside out and let them frisk you when they tell you. Never - never! - leave home without identification documents.

Yes, don't forget sanctions from our international friends, that is to say, our new enemies. You guys are in Russia now.

And then a few tiny matters. Well, a bunch of them, really:

It is prohibited to protest in Russia.

It is prohibited to resist the unlawful arrest and unlawful detention.

It is prohibited for regions to be autonomous. It is forbidden to leave the Russian federation. Separatism is prohibited.

It is prohibited for foreigners to adopt Russian children.

It is prohibited to propagate homosexuality.

It is prohibited for Madonna and Lady Gaga to perform.

It is prohibited to put up unauthorized posters.

The television network Dozjd is prohibited.

Any day now, online money will be prohibited.

Prices in Moscow is twice as high as in Kiev. On everything.

And, finally, for us (and now also for you), it is forbidden to sell alcohol from eleven at night till eight in the morning. The Sobriety Act, you see.

You sir, also fail to mention why the Americans went to Afghanistan. There was a certain bad guy living there at the time that was responsible for 9-11-2001 or did you forget that?

Only fter Russia dropped in thousands of paratroopers and ferried tanks across the strait of kerch. No big deal.

Comrade Ludvig Enraga,

I am pretty confident Piraten is just trying to satirize Comrade Putin's and the government's more authoritarian stance...

The Soviets went there to prop up the government of Afghanistan. They were not attacked by a terrorist group prior to their invasion. The U.S was. But, I guess you are one of those conspiracy nuts that believes, the US blew the World Trade Center itself.