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CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 816	Posted - 2014.02.25 13:53:00 - [1] - Quote Caldari are "A political" and aren't interested in cultural differences. Only trade, research and advances in technology. Not changing another culture to replicate their own or control another people to create some sort of empire. The war with the Gallente is personal and has a lot to do with their betrayal and destruction of the Caldari's home world. The Gallente started the war. The Amarr started their war by conquering and enslaving the Minmatar (personal). There are 2 victims and 2 perpetrators. A good question would be; why are the Minmatar and Caldari at war? The Gallente attacked the Caldari. Same can be said about the Amarr. The Caldari are not religious and seem accepting of all cultures as long as trade is not disrupted. All things considered, it would seem the more prudent course of action that the Caldari should have been alligned with the Minmatar. Add to the fact that the Amarr are the biggest threat in the universe being the largest empire by far. The Caldari being the smallest would find the Minmatars war against the Amarr to be beneficial from an economical standpoint. I assume the Minmatar allied with the Gallente based on notions of freedom and democracy. Humm... just thinking out loud here.... Join our public channel - A great place to hang out / find squads. ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 237	Posted - 2014.02.25 13:58:00 - [2] - Quote There i agree, basicaly both were slaves under supresing agresor (Galenteans tried to take Caldari tradition, their Mercitocratic system,on what they had builded whole culture and they desecrated their monuments. Minmatars was basicaly fully enslaved by Amarr). There is too many events and ations basicaly similar. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator
Atiim Living Like Larry Schwag 5093	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:00:00 - [3] - Quote The Caldari and Minmatar are a lot closer than many would like to believe. I forgot the story, but the leader of a Caldari corporation (Ishukone?) was a very close friend to one of the a Republic's leaders, and even gave him a Vitoc antidote. Another example of this: The Ishukone Assault Sub-Machine Gun inb4 The Amarrican't brigade Atiim (Gunnlogi - 80GJ Particle Cannon) Tank Scrub [s]Text[/s] <---------- That's how you make a strike-through -HAND
steadyhand amarr TeamPlayers Negative-Feedback 2366	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:02:00 - [4] - Quote Simple answer we have a **** load of money we loned to the caldri "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 583	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:03:00 - [5] - Quote Atiim wrote: The Caldari and Minmatar are a lot closer than many would like to believe. I forgot the story, but the leader of a Caldari corporation (Ishukone?) was a very close friend to one of the a Republic's leaders, and even gave him a Vitoc antidote. Another example of this: The Ishukone Assault Sub-Machine Gun inb4 The Amarrican't brigade ^This, Not only that, but a lot of Minmatar ex-slaves moved there after the Amarr Empress freed the 9th Gen's and above. So we're closer to neutral than hostile. Who says you can't kill in style? When CCP plays Dust514
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 818	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:05:00 - [6] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: There i agree, basicaly both were slaves under supresing agresor (Galenteans tried to take Caldaris tradition, their Mercitocratic system,on what they had builded whole culture and they desecrated their monuments. Minmatars was basicaly fully enslaved by Amarr). There is too many events and ations basicaly similar. That's just it. However after further investigation it seems as if 2 other important factors come into play that I was unaware of. 1. All of the empires have some sort of connection to the Jove (Those mysterious uber powerful beings) except the Amarr [Who were brutally crushed by the Jove in a huge war] 2. The Amarr are sort of using the Caldari to keep the Gallente in check as the Amarr see the huge economical might of the Gallente as a very potent threat to their own equally large empire. The Gallente have a near limitless supply of Minmatar fighters they can train. However it seems to me all the more reason the Caldari should ditch the Amarr and take up arms with the Minmatar. The problem would be that the Minmatar are allies of our most hated enemy - the Gallente. Also the Caldari do share a very close bond with the Khanids, specifically Khanid II - IIRC. Join our public channel - A great place to hang out / find squads. ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 238	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:05:00 - [7] - Quote Basicaly both the Caldari and Minmatars have same ideal. The prosperity through lore and its benefits in progress. Im DEFO for MERGE with MINMATARS. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2605	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:06:00 - [8] - Quote The Caldari are less inclined toward moral outrage. The Minmatar played the victom card to gain Gallente support. Once the Minmatar allied with the Gallente the Caldari had little choice by to join with the Amarr. If the Minmatar had not joined the Gallente the Caldari might have allied with them, but the reasons would have been economic or tactical. The Caldari are not so easily manipulated through righteous indignation. Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 818	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:08:00 - [9] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: Basicaly both the Caldari and Minmatars have same ideal. The prosperity through lore and its benefits in progress. Im DEFO for MERGE with MINMATARS. We need to become shield brethren in arms! We can fight the armour scum! Join our public channel - A great place to hang out / find squads. ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1349	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:08:00 - [10] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: There i agree, basicaly both were slaves under supresing agresor (Galenteans tried to take Caldaris tradition, their Mercitocratic system,on what they had builded whole culture and they desecrated their monuments. Minmatars was basicaly fully enslaved by Amarr). There is too many events and ations basicaly similar. What?..... Gallente and Caldari where close.. They even jointly discovered the Jump gate technology... Even Caldari and Gallente Prime planets where in the same solar system... The Caldari Corporations where secretly colonizing Solar systems and military bases and building private armies of ships. When a gallente Exploration ship wondered into a secret Caldari colonization a Federation wide investigation went on and the caldari secret colonies and military strength where quickly brought into question.. The Caldari Corporations didn't want to operate under a democratic governing business body and made a stand... meh let me just find a link... https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Early_Days_(Chronicle)

DeadlyAztec11 Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 4419	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:09:00 - [11] - Quote The Caldari are aligned with just about everybody else. Even though there is tension between the Gallante and Caldari, their economies are very closely linked and they each have stakes in eachothers economies. Also the reason the Amarr are aligned more closely with the Caldari is because they have an implied military alliance; the Caldari help the Amarr from fighting the Minmatar and Gallante in a 2 v. 1 situation. The Caldari are also the greatest exploiters of Minmatar assets and also sell weapons to the Ammatar in exchange for resource rights. So if you think the Gallante are using the Minmatar, then you haven't considered how bad the Caldari would be. My alts: General John Ripper, Draxus Prime, MoonEagle A, Anarchide, Long Evity And this is why I am the #1 forum warrior
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 583	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:10:00 - [12] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: The Caldari are less inclined toward moral outrage. The Minmatar played the victom card to gain Gallente support. Once the Minmatar allied with the Gallente the Caldari had little choice by to join with the Amarr. If the Minmatar had not joined the Gallente the Caldari might have allied with them, but the reasons would have been economic or tactical. The Caldari are not so easily manipulated through righteous indignation. Unlikely, it was Gallente intervention/Battle of Vak'Atoith that allowed the the Minmatar to break free. So the Gallente got to play the benevolent savior card. Who says you can't kill in style? When CCP plays Dust514
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 819	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:12:00 - [13] - Quote Bethhy wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: There i agree, basicaly both were slaves under supresing agresor (Galenteans tried to take Caldaris tradition, their Mercitocratic system,on what they had builded whole culture and they desecrated their monuments. Minmatars was basicaly fully enslaved by Amarr). There is too many events and ations basicaly similar. What?..... Gallente and Caldari where close.. They even jointly discovered the Jump gate technology... Even Caldari and Gallente Prime planets where in the same solar system... The Caldari Corporations where secretly colonizing Solar systems and military bases and building private armies of ships. When a gallente Exploration ship wondered into a secret Caldari colonization a Federation wide investigation went on and the caldari secret colonies and military strength where quickly brought into question.. The Caldari Corporations didn't want to operate under a democratic governing business body and made a stand... meh let me just find a link... https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Early_Days_(Chronicle) Awesome link Bethhy! That makes me love the Caldari even more. Secretive, steadfast in their response! Its great to shed a little more light on the whole subject. Wow I wish CCP pushed this st into DUST! Join our public channel - A great place to hang out / find squads. ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB**
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1329	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:13:00 - [14] - Quote Fox Gaden wrote: The Caldari are less inclined toward moral outrage. The Minmatar played the victom card to gain Gallente support. Once the Minmatar allied with the Gallente the Caldari had little choice by to join with the Amarr. If the Minmatar had not joined the Gallente the Caldari might have allied with them, but the reasons would have been economic or tactical. The Caldari are not so easily manipulated through righteous indignation. Isn't that pretty much it? The Min sided with the Gal and therefore are the Cal's enemy by proxy. I'd really like to see the minor races (bloodlines) brought in as their own separate factions. Khanid, Ammatar et al could change the alignment. Oh well, ace in the hole for CCP. Rommel, you magnificent bastard, I read your book!
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 819	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:17:00 - [15] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: The Caldari are less inclined toward moral outrage. The Minmatar played the victom card to gain Gallente support. Once the Minmatar allied with the Gallente the Caldari had little choice by to join with the Amarr. If the Minmatar had not joined the Gallente the Caldari might have allied with them, but the reasons would have been economic or tactical. The Caldari are not so easily manipulated through righteous indignation. Isn't that pretty much it? The Min sided with the Gal and therefore are the Cal's enemy by proxy. I'd really like to see the minor races (bloodlines) brought in as their own separate factions. Khanid, Ammatar et al could change the alignment. Oh well, ace in the hole for CCP. And this is preciecly why I love CCP. The lore is awesome! Space politics at its finest! I swear I would forget CCP`s shortcommings in DUST overnight if the whole lore aspect was explored further, if we could have some sort of stake in it from a game play perspective. FW was the start of this, but it was lack lustre, so much more could be done. Hell right now we are only talking about the major races and players. We could further delve into the world with all of the pirate factions..... [Potential or what!]. Join our public channel - A great place to hang out / find squads. ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB
Lorhak Gannarsein Science For Death 1826	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:18:00 - [16] - Quote steadyhand amarr wrote: Simple answer we have a **** load of money we loned to the caldri Also the Amarr have arguably the most powerful military in New Eden. Forge on for great justice! Defend the meek! Destroy the weak! Q-sync breaches into the rectum of everyone else!
Turtle Hermit Roshi D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 167	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:18:00 - [17] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Caldari are "A political" and aren't interested in cultural differences. Only trade, research and advances in technology. Not changing another culture to replicate their own or control another people to create some sort of empire. The war with the Gallente is personal and has a lot to do with their betrayal and destruction of the Caldari's home world. The Gallente started the war. The Amarr started their war by conquering and enslaving the Minmatar (personal). There are 2 victims and 2 perpetrators. A good question would be; why are the Minmatar and Caldari at war? The Gallente attacked the Caldari. Same can be said about the Amarr. The Caldari are not religious and seem accepting of all cultures as long as trade is not disrupted. All things considered, it would seem the more prudent course of action that the Caldari should have been alligned with the Minmatar. Add to the fact that the Amarr are the biggest threat in the universe being the largest empire by far. The Caldari being the smallest would find the Minmatars war against the Amarr to be beneficial from an economical standpoint. I assume the Minmatar allied with the Gallente based on notions of freedom and democracy. Humm... just thinking out loud here.... min arent allied with the cladari b/c they were already allied to the arrmar b/c big corperations want to be allied with large empires Anything worth fighting for is worth fighting dirty for, welcome to New Eden -ill b there SoonGäó KAMEHAMEHA TANK KILLA
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 240	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:25:00 - [18] - Quote Gallenteans the selfrighteous, pompous and luxury loving Hnolku. Their TRIED to take OUR identity. Their tried to MAKE us in their own PICTURE. But their TRIES were CRUSHED. CRUSHED by OUR RAISED FISTS. By OUR constatnt HEARTBEAT. By OUR firm STANCE. My BROTHERS, SISTER, SONS and DAUGHTERS of STATE. I will give my TRUST in another ENSLAVED JAIJII, than trust one SECOND more the GALLENTEANS word. Their word is just SHADOW, shadow and dust in OUR way to FREEDOM and PROSPERITY. For a STATE and for MINMATAR Suuolos KIRJUUN. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 1350	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:28:00 - [19] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Bethhy wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: There i agree, basicaly both were slaves under supresing agresor (Galenteans tried to take Caldaris tradition, their Mercitocratic system,on what they had builded whole culture and they desecrated their monuments. Minmatars was basicaly fully enslaved by Amarr). There is too many events and ations basicaly similar. What?..... Gallente and Caldari where close.. They even jointly discovered the Jump gate technology... Even Caldari and Gallente Prime planets where in the same solar system... The Caldari Corporations where secretly colonizing Solar systems and military bases and building private armies of ships. When a gallente Exploration ship wondered into a secret Caldari colonization a Federation wide investigation went on and the caldari secret colonies and military strength where quickly brought into question.. The Caldari Corporations didn't want to operate under a democratic governing business body and made a stand... meh let me just find a link... https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/The_Early_Days_(Chronicle) Awesome link Bethhy! That makes me love the Caldari even more. Secretive, steadfast in their response! Its great to shed a little more light on the whole subject. Wow I wish CCP pushed this s**t into DUST! They did to CCP's credit... Remember that Burning Titan event where we had debris everywhere? That was a battle for Caldari Prime... http://wiki.dust514.info/index.php?title=The_Battle_for_Caldari_Prime http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/shiigeru-destroyed-federation-navy-offensive-in-luminaire-still-ongoing-1/ It's probably one of the coolest things that has been done in DUST 514 for events.
Fox Gaden Immortal Guides 2605	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:32:00 - [20] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Fox Gaden wrote: The Caldari are less inclined toward moral outrage. The Minmatar played the victom card to gain Gallente support. Once the Minmatar allied with the Gallente the Caldari had little choice by to join with the Amarr. If the Minmatar had not joined the Gallente the Caldari might have allied with them, but the reasons would have been economic or tactical. The Caldari are not so easily manipulated through righteous indignation. Isn't that pretty much it? The Min sided with the Gal and therefore are the Cal's enemy by proxy. I'd really like to see the minor races (bloodlines) brought in as their own separate factions. Khanid, Ammatar et al could change the alignment. Oh well, ace in the hole for CCP. I have always favored the Khanid over that other Amarr factions. Fox Gaden: DUST Wall of Fame, 2014

Hecarim Van Hohen Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 461	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:35:00 - [21] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: That's just it. However after further investigation it seems as if 2 other important factors come into play that I was unaware of. 1. All of the empires have some sort of connection to the Jove (Those mysterious uber powerful beings) except the Amarr [Who were brutally crushed by the Jove in a huge war] 2. The Amarr are sort of using the Caldari to keep the Gallente in check as the Amarr see the huge economical might of the Gallente as a very potent threat to their own equally large empire. The Gallente have a near limitless supply of Minmatar fighters they can train. However it seems to me all the more reason the Caldari should ditch the Amarr and take up arms with the Minmatar. The problem would be that the Minmatar are allies of our most hated enemy - the Gallente. Also the Caldari do share a very close bond with the Khanids, specifically Khanid II - IIRC. The Amarr Navy utilized a single squadron to attack the Jove at the Battle of VakGÇÖAtioth. Jove also had a spy in the Amarr Empire and were thus able to make a perfect counter. Also this post has striking similarity to your OP (EDIT just found it funny, nothing more) BANGO SKANK WAS HERE 1.7 best match (HMG): 40/9/9 (K/A/D)
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 240	Posted - 2014.02.25 14:38:00 - [22] - Quote Maybe its same person, or maybe he feels it same ad just dont have better words for it and he/she copied this. I dont see a big deal idea is still same. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator
Obodiah Garro Tech Guard RISE of LEGION 687	Posted - 2014.02.25 15:03:00 - [23] - Quote OP makes a good point but from a strict RP point of view, Caldari would side with the Amarr anyway, a strong empire that already has long and ancient trade routes, a massive stellar fleet that needs constantly upgrades, the strong ties with the Khanid Kingdom etc. Amarr has more money to spend.
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona Top Men. 319	Posted - 2014.02.25 15:24:00 - [24] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Simple answer we have a **** load of money we loned to the caldri Also the Amarr have arguably the most powerful military in New Eden. Still they got their ass kicked by jove(ok every faction would lose to those baldies) minmatar and gallente Fck the kdr,i`m going in
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona Top Men. 319	Posted - 2014.02.25 15:27:00 - [25] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: Gallenteans the selfrighteous, pompous and luxury loving Hnolku. Their TRIED to take OUR identity. Their tried to MAKE us in their own PICTURE. But their TRIES were CRUSHED. CRUSHED by OUR RAISED FISTS. By OUR constatnt HEARTBEAT. By OUR firm STANCE. My BROTHERS, SISTER, SONS and DAUGHTERS of STATE. I will give my TRUST in another ENSLAVED JAIJII, than trust one SECOND more the GALLENTEANS word. Their word is just SHADOW, shadow and dust in OUR way to FREEDOM and PROSPERITY. For a STATE and for MINMATAR Suuolos KIRJUUN. You should shut your dirty provist mouth Fck the kdr,i`m going in
Vrain Matari Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 1673	Posted - 2014.02.25 15:34:00 - [26] - Quote Ofc, everybody wants to be allied with the Minmatar, because we have the best parties. And the Matari/Gallente mixed events - all i can say is Oh l+á l+á. <-- fancy, no? Learnt that expression from a Gallente girl ;) I support SP rollover.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 241	Posted - 2014.02.25 15:44:00 - [27] - Quote Sergamon Draco wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: Gallenteans the selfrighteous, pompous and luxury loving Hnolku. Their TRIED to take OUR identity. Their tried to MAKE us in their own PICTURE. But their TRIES were CRUSHED. CRUSHED by OUR RAISED FISTS. By OUR constatnt HEARTBEAT. By OUR firm STANCE. My BROTHERS, SISTER, SONS and DAUGHTERS of STATE. I will give my TRUST in another ENSLAVED JAIJII, than trust one SECOND more the GALLENTEANS word. Their word is just SHADOW, shadow and dust in OUR way to FREEDOM and PROSPERITY. For a STATE and for MINMATAR Suuolos KIRJUUN. You should shut your dirty provist mouth Such a TYPICAL archetype of your RACE, congratulation. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator
Kristoff Atruin Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1714	Posted - 2014.02.25 15:59:00 - [28] - Quote Realistically the Minmatar are heavily under the influence of the Gallente, which has been a real source of conflict between the Minmatar and Gallente. The Gallente are just as culturally imperialist toward them as they were toward the Caldari back in the day. That's probably the main reason for the state of war between the Caldari and Minmatar, they're effectively Gallente in terms of policy because they aren't that independent.
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 3562	Posted - 2014.02.25 16:06:00 - [29] - Quote The Amarr have the largest empire in the EVE universe. The Caldari are complete corporatists. They want that market. It makes sense to me. Dren and Templar equipment stats, wrong since release.
Aero Yassavi Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 6875	Posted - 2014.02.25 16:33:00 - [30] - Quote The Amarr have been respectfully treating the so-called "enslaved" Minmatar even before the war as well as freeing them. It was the Minmatar who started the violence. Also the Caldari are allies with the Amarr because the Caldari need the Amarr to hold of the Gallente. The Minmatar are allies with the Gallente because the Gallente feared the Amarr's sized so manipulated the Minmatar into rebelling to create internal conflict within the Amarr Empire so as to weaken their immediate power to be more on par with the Gallente's own. In fact most Gallente citizens don't even like the Minmatar, as evident with many recent news stories, and when you look historically when the Gallente and Amarr first met most Gallente citizens were actually fascinated with the Amarr and admired their civilization. It wasn't until the Gallente Federation's "elected" royalty began to fear their people thinking their is no need for their federation that they started a massive propaganda push to portray the Amarr as evil slavers that the citizens interest and liking to the Amarr vanquished. Mail me in game if interested in learning about the Amarr Empire and serving them in Faction Warfare. Amarr Victor!

XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 585	Posted - 2014.02.25 16:46:00 - [31] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: It was the Minmatar who started the violence. While history may agree with the rest of that, on this I have to disagree. Yes we started the Rebellions, but the violence started when the Amarr attacked the Minmatar Homeworlds enslaving millions. Who says you can't kill in style? When CCP plays Dust514
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona Top Men. 320	Posted - 2014.02.25 17:17:00 - [32] - Quote Mr Yassavi, why you deny that your race is slavers.There is evidence ammarrians drug minmatarians with vitoc to keep them obedient,and treating them like they are mere cattle.In my eyes you are same as sanha`s nation or blood raiders,even caldarians are more humane than your race Fck the kdr,i`m going in
Texs Red DUST University Ivy League 252	Posted - 2014.02.25 17:20:00 - [33] - Quote Nobody is perfect. The Gallente will socially consume your society until you are pulled into it's Federation. The Caldari will take control of your entire economy though shell corporations, then take over The Amarr are at least honest with what they want, to enslave all who aren't true Amarr The Minmatar are anti-governmental tribes who will go terrorist on anybody who interferes with their lifestyle To be honest the last people I would want to be allied with is the Minmatar. Each other race you can at least understand what they want and can find some kind of middle ground (or agree to disagree), the MInmatar however is like treading on egg shells all the time because of how touchy they can be about tribal identity or pride. For example: A Gallente terrorist blows up a bunch of Gallente citizens and one visiting Minmatar leader. The Minmatar declare it entirely Minmatar business and demand that the prisoner be given to them before standing trial in a Gallente court. A Minmatar fleet almost invaded Gallente space to try and steal him away. They are not rational.
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3267	Posted - 2014.02.25 17:24:00 - [34] - Quote As far as I know, the Gallente being the bleeding hearts that they are, helped the Minmatar fight for their freedom. Plus, I don't know if the Amarr traded their slaves, or if they were "just for personal use", but the corporatocratic Caldari probably don't have many reservations about slave labour. No.
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 587	Posted - 2014.02.25 17:24:00 - [35] - Quote Sergamon Draco wrote: Mr Yassavi, why you deny that your race is slavers.There is evidence ammarrians drug minmatarians with vitoc to keep them obedient,and treating them like they are mere cattle.In my eyes you are same as sanha`s nation or blood raiders,even caldarians are more humane than your race Even I have to say that goes a bit far. Sansha destroy's everything about you in his conversion process, you might as well be dead((think Mass effect Husks)). If you're an Amarrian slave at least you have a chance at freedom. Blood raiders just go on rampages of capturing victims and then having them slowly bleed to death. Being the victim of such shouldn't even be something you wish on your worst enemy. Who says you can't kill in style? When CCP plays Dust514
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 587	Posted - 2014.02.25 17:26:00 - [36] - Quote Texs Red wrote: Nobody is perfect. The Gallente will socially consume your society until you are pulled into it's Federation. The Caldari will take control of your entire economy though shell corporations, then take over The Amarr are at least honest with what they want, to enslave all who aren't true Amarr The Minmatar are anti-governmental tribes who will go terrorist on anybody who interferes with their lifestyle To be honest the last people I would want to be allied with is the Minmatar. Each other race you can at least understand what they want and can find some kind of middle ground (or agree to disagree), the MInmatar however is like treading on egg shells all the time because of how touchy they can be about tribal identity or pride. For example: A Gallente terrorist blows up a bunch of Gallente citizens and one visiting Minmatar leader. The Minmatar declare it entirely Minmatar business and demand that the prisoner be given to them before standing trial in a Gallente court. A Minmatar fleet almost invaded Gallente space to try and steal him away. They are not rational. So if a Minmatar terrorist killed your President or a very important senator and we refused to give him over to your court system because he killed some of our citizens your people would sit by complacently and watch? Who says you can't kill in style? When CCP plays Dust514
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 449	Posted - 2014.02.25 17:28:00 - [37] - Quote The terrorist attack on Nouvelle Rouvenor that killed half a million people that would lead to the start of the war. Yakiya Tovil-Toba then rammed his leviathan into Hueromont killed 2 million people. What response did they think was going to happen?
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona Top Men. 320	Posted - 2014.02.25 17:30:00 - [38] - Quote XANDER KAG wrote: Texs Red wrote: Nobody is perfect. The Gallente will socially consume your society until you are pulled into it's Federation. The Caldari will take control of your entire economy though shell corporations, then take over The Amarr are at least honest with what they want, to enslave all who aren't true Amarr The Minmatar are anti-governmental tribes who will go terrorist on anybody who interferes with their lifestyle To be honest the last people I would want to be allied with is the Minmatar. Each other race you can at least understand what they want and can find some kind of middle ground (or agree to disagree), the MInmatar however is like treading on egg shells all the time because of how touchy they can be about tribal identity or pride. For example: A Gallente terrorist blows up a bunch of Gallente citizens and one visiting Minmatar leader. The Minmatar declare it entirely Minmatar business and demand that the prisoner be given to them before standing trial in a Gallente court. A Minmatar fleet almost invaded Gallente space to try and steal him away. They are not rational. So if a Minmatar terrorist killed your President or a very important senator and we refused to give him over to your court system because he killed some of our citizens your people would sit by complacently and watch? Still we gave terrorist to minmatar and he got death penalty Fck the kdr,i`m going in
XANDER KAG Red Star. EoN. 587	Posted - 2014.02.25 17:32:00 - [39] - Quote Sergamon Draco wrote: XANDER KAG wrote: Texs Red wrote: Nobody is perfect. The Gallente will socially consume your society until you are pulled into it's Federation. The Caldari will take control of your entire economy though shell corporations, then take over The Amarr are at least honest with what they want, to enslave all who aren't true Amarr The Minmatar are anti-governmental tribes who will go terrorist on anybody who interferes with their lifestyle To be honest the last people I would want to be allied with is the Minmatar. Each other race you can at least understand what they want and can find some kind of middle ground (or agree to disagree), the MInmatar however is like treading on egg shells all the time because of how touchy they can be about tribal identity or pride. For example: A Gallente terrorist blows up a bunch of Gallente citizens and one visiting Minmatar leader. The Minmatar declare it entirely Minmatar business and demand that the prisoner be given to them before standing trial in a Gallente court. A Minmatar fleet almost invaded Gallente space to try and steal him away. They are not rational. So if a Minmatar terrorist killed your President or a very important senator and we refused to give him over to your court system because he killed some of our citizens your people would sit by complacently and watch? Still we gave terrorist to minmatar and he got death penalty Because a Presidential assassin would have totally not gotten the death penalty. Karin had that much influence with us as a Ray of Matar. Who says you can't kill in style? When CCP plays Dust514
Ghost Kaisar Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3212	Posted - 2014.02.25 17:39:00 - [40] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: The Amarr have been respectfully treating the so-called "enslaved" Minmatar even before the war as well as freeing them. It was the Minmatar who started the violence. Also the Caldari are allies with the Amarr because the Caldari need the Amarr to hold of the Gallente. The Minmatar are allies with the Gallente because the Gallente feared the Amarr's sized so manipulated the Minmatar into rebelling to create internal conflict within the Amarr Empire so as to weaken their immediate power to be more on par with the Gallente's own. In fact most Gallente citizens don't even like the Minmatar, as evident with many recent news stories, and when you look historically when the Gallente and Amarr first met most Gallente citizens were actually fascinated with the Amarr and admired their civilization. It wasn't until the Gallente Federation's "elected" royalty began to fear their people thinking their is no need for their federation that they started a massive propaganda push to portray the Amarr as evil slavers that the citizens interest and liking to the Amarr vanquished. The Day of Darkness Slavery For those who don't understand slavery in new eden, read this article. The Amarr basically claim that their religion gives them the right to enslave other races in the name of God. Here is a direct quote: "Slavery is considered a sacred burden, both by the Amarr and those they enslave. The Amarr are expected to Reclaim the entire cluster and enslave its people, eventually teaching them the ways of God and bringing them fully into the fold. Those enslaved are expected to toil and suffer until they have purged themselves of the sins that caused their ancestors to be cast down." While SOME of the Amarr were nice to their slaves, and controlled them well (Not being overly harsh, and actually trying to "reform" them) Most just used them as free labor. They also utilized the Vitoxin virus as a method of control. Sort of a "Do what we say, or we won't give you the Vitoc (Which staves off the virus). This is why the Vitoxin cure was such a huge deal to the Republic. It allowed them to cure their own people, and rise up in rebellion. Say what you want about how you want to "Save" the people you are enslaving. Just looking at history, and how a majority of the slaving is handled, it's easy to see that the majority of the Amarr do not care about the reformation at all. They are using an End to justify a Means, and sometimes not even achieving the End in the first place. You view your slaves as nothing more as tools, and treat them as such. It is no surprise that we fought back. (Ignore my portrait. I AM MINMATAR) Nothing says "F**K YOU!" like a direct Flaylock to the face. Minmatar. In Rust we trust.

Texs Red DUST University Ivy League 252	Posted - 2014.02.25 17:41:00 - [41] - Quote XANDER KAG wrote: So if a Minmatar terrorist killed your President or a very important senator and we refused to give him over to your court system because he killed some of our citizens your people would sit by complacently and watch? Are you suggesting the lives of your citizens are more important than ours? I would expect some trust in your allies government to do the right thing, he was a Gallente citizen and deserved to die for his crimes. I am confident he would have died under Gallente law and exporting him was necessary only because of the Minmatar's enflamed reaction to the whole thing. Now there is a precedent for exporting Gallente citizens for judgement under Minmatar law any time it involved Minmatar citizens. You would not appreciate the Gallente demanding immediate exporting of Minmatar citizens to face Gallente law any time a Gallente citizen abroad gets killed. While I am confident the Federation tried to work with the Republic on this, the end result clearly shows the Minmatar people have little respect for Gallente law or customs while expect strict adherence to their own.
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 833	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:05:00 - [42] - Quote Hecarim Van Hohen wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: That's just it. However after further investigation it seems as if 2 other important factors come into play that I was unaware of. 1. All of the empires have some sort of connection to the Jove (Those mysterious uber powerful beings) except the Amarr [Who were brutally crushed by the Jove in a huge war] 2. The Amarr are sort of using the Caldari to keep the Gallente in check as the Amarr see the huge economical might of the Gallente as a very potent threat to their own equally large empire. The Gallente have a near limitless supply of Minmatar fighters they can train. However it seems to me all the more reason the Caldari should ditch the Amarr and take up arms with the Minmatar. The problem would be that the Minmatar are allies of our most hated enemy - the Gallente. Also the Caldari do share a very close bond with the Khanids, specifically Khanid II - IIRC. The Amarr Navy utilized a single squadron to attack the Jove at the Battle of VakGÇÖAtioth. Jove also had a spy in the Amarr Empire and were thus able to make a perfect counter. Also this post has striking similarity to your OP (EDIT just found it funny, nothing more) That post is where I got half of my post from, I literally copied half of that guys post for my own here. So credit to that guy, I hope he is ok with me stealing his post but it said everything I waned to say :) Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB For the STATE!
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 450	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:11:00 - [43] - Quote We were so willing to stop the 100 year war when we discovered the Amarr which were by far the larger threat than the Caldari State. Your morality and wanting to live like Caldari in support of an empire that enslaved entire civilizations for your own greedy empire. Just going to show you how "moral" you can be. How is slavery fitting into your meritocracy, bunch of hypocrites. It would have been better if you staid with the Federation.
Vordred Knight Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 7	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:11:00 - [44] - Quote i could care less i have a caldari wife a mimatar son and a amarr daughter Life is Good ashes to ashes dust to dust we are nothing but dust and to dust you shall return - Father Alexander Anderson
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 834	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:24:00 - [45] - Quote Fraceska wrote: We were so willing to stop the 100 year war when we discovered the Amarr which were by far the larger threat than the Caldari State. Your morality and wanting to live like Caldari in support of an empire that enslaved entire civilizations for your own greedy empire. Just going to show you how "moral" you can be. How is slavery fitting into your meritocracy, bunch of hypocrites. It would have been better if you staid with the Federation. The Federation is a thinly veiled fa+ºade. Corruption and lies is all it really stands for! The rich get richer and the poor get trodden on. At least in both Caldari society and even the Amarr society, as long as you benefit the State or Empire respectively - you are always looked after. In Caldari society, even if our smallest corporation is threatened, the whole State unifies to back them up! We are one! Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB For the STATE!
CRNWLLC Screwy Rabbit ULC 62	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:37:00 - [46] - Quote I've been thinking a lot about this, too. Ie, makes more sense for Minmatar and Caldari to be allies, considering that the Amarr and Gallente are both imperial entities and therefore not to be trusted by any truly freedom loving capsuleer or merc. Sure, the Gallente might give you a smile and a handshake, but they're ideologically driven, to be sure. IMO, seems like the Caldari and Minmatar, as "legitimate" governments within New Eden, would be inclined to team up with pirate factions to destroy the Amarr and Gallente (excluding, of course, the Sansha, Blood Raiders, etc.--basically any faction that is ideologically insane). Have you seen my baseball?
Sarus Rambo Direct Action Resources 25	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:46:00 - [47] - Quote Fraceska wrote: We were so willing to stop the 100 year war when we discovered the Amarr which were by far the larger threat than the Caldari State. Your morality and wanting to live like Caldari in support of an empire that enslaved entire civilizations for your own greedy empire. Just going to show you how "moral" you can be. How is slavery fitting into your meritocracy, bunch of hypocrites. It would have been better if you staid with the Federation. You should look more into what Gallante have really done. Gallante preach morality but do not necessarily practice it. They secretly practice unmoral tactics, oppression, and corruption. The Caldari personify strength and unity, capitalism and strength. The strong rise and the weak fall. They don't preach morality so they aren't limited by it. They only preach the Darwinist vision of bettering themselves and by extension their people. Through the fire and flames motha f---a.
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona Top Men. 320	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:48:00 - [48] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Fraceska wrote: We were so willing to stop the 100 year war when we discovered the Amarr which were by far the larger threat than the Caldari State. Your morality and wanting to live like Caldari in support of an empire that enslaved entire civilizations for your own greedy empire. Just going to show you how "moral" you can be. How is slavery fitting into your meritocracy, bunch of hypocrites. It would have been better if you staid with the Federation. The Federation is a thinly veiled fa+ºade. Corruption and lies is all it really stands for! The rich get richer and the poor get trodden on. At least in both Caldari society and even the Amarr society, as long as you benefit the State or Empire respectively - you are always looked after. In Caldari society, even if our smallest corporation is threatened, the whole State unifies to back them up! We are one! Correct me but, did not heth start the riot in armour forgery just the same reason that you are blaming gallentes here? Fck the kdr,i`m going in
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona Top Men. 320	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:52:00 - [49] - Quote Sarus Rambo wrote: Fraceska wrote: We were so willing to stop the 100 year war when we discovered the Amarr which were by far the larger threat than the Caldari State. Your morality and wanting to live like Caldari in support of an empire that enslaved entire civilizations for your own greedy empire. Just going to show you how "moral" you can be. How is slavery fitting into your meritocracy, bunch of hypocrites. It would have been better if you staid with the Federation. You should look more into what Gallante have really done. Gallante preach morality but do not necessarily practice it. They secretly practice unmoral tactics, oppression, and corruption. The Caldari personify strength and unity, capitalism and strength. The strong rise and the weak fall. They don't preach morality so they aren't limited by it. They only preach the Darwinist vision of bettering themselves and by extension their people. Through the fire and flames motha f---a. So your "loved" faction don`t have/practice unmoral tactics, oppression, and corruption? Fck the kdr,i`m going in
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 454	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:53:00 - [50] - Quote Sarus Rambo wrote: Fraceska wrote: We were so willing to stop the 100 year war when we discovered the Amarr which were by far the larger threat than the Caldari State. Your morality and wanting to live like Caldari in support of an empire that enslaved entire civilizations for your own greedy empire. Just going to show you how "moral" you can be. How is slavery fitting into your meritocracy, bunch of hypocrites. It would have been better if you staid with the Federation. You should look more into what Gallante have really done. Gallante preach morality but do not necessarily practice it. They secretly practice unmoral tactics, oppression, and corruption. The Caldari personify strength and unity, capitalism and strength. The strong rise and the weak fall. They don't preach morality so they aren't limited by it. They only preach the Darwinist vision of bettering themselves and by extension their people. Through the fire and flames motha f---a. And how does your meritocracy apply to slavery? The opposite of what you claim to preach? You just as easily stand on the weak and trod on them to keep up your corporate power. There is no voice of the people. You have no Senate, no elections, your press is controlled through the various corporations. A Caldari would sell their mother if it meant advancing in the corporate ladder. You say you unite out of a commonality, in really it is just self preservation. You fear the loss of control as do those at the top of the corporate ladder. We have the first true Democratic Republic of New Eden. We liberate oppressed societies. We bring a renaissance of art, literature and culture. You have corporate labels and propaganda to prop yourselves up. How exactly do the lowest of the low ever get to prove themselves when it is already controlled by the corporate elite? Where were the Caldari when the Minmatar rebelled? Who supplied them? Who trained them? Who protected them? The Caldari state sided with their very oppressors. Claim the high ground all you wish but in the end you cannot trust a Caldari.

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7528	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:56:00 - [51] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Caldari are "A political" and aren't interested in cultural differences. Only trade, research and advances in technology. Not changing another culture to replicate their own or control another people to create some sort of empire. The war with the Gallente is personal and has a lot to do with their betrayal and destruction of the Caldari's home world. The Gallente started the war. The Amarr started their war by conquering and enslaving the Minmatar (personal). There are 2 victims and 2 perpetrators. A good question would be; why are the Minmatar and Caldari at war? The Gallente attacked the Caldari. Same can be said about the Amarr. The Caldari are not religious and seem accepting of all cultures as long as trade is not disrupted. All things considered, it would seem the more prudent course of action that the Caldari should have been alligned with the Minmatar. Add to the fact that the Amarr are the biggest threat in the universe being the largest empire by far. The Caldari being the smallest would find the Minmatars war against the Amarr to be beneficial from an economical standpoint. I assume the Minmatar allied with the Gallente based on notions of freedom and democracy. Humm... just thinking out loud here.... Technically the Amarr never started a war. We are doing God's work and uniting humanity under one banners as humanity should be. Its the other peoples of New Eden that are being evil sods about the whole thing. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona Top Men. 320	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:59:00 - [52] - Quote True Adamance wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Caldari are "A political" and aren't interested in cultural differences. Only trade, research and advances in technology. Not changing another culture to replicate their own or control another people to create some sort of empire. The war with the Gallente is personal and has a lot to do with their betrayal and destruction of the Caldari's home world. The Gallente started the war. The Amarr started their war by conquering and enslaving the Minmatar (personal). There are 2 victims and 2 perpetrators. A good question would be; why are the Minmatar and Caldari at war? The Gallente attacked the Caldari. Same can be said about the Amarr. The Caldari are not religious and seem accepting of all cultures as long as trade is not disrupted. All things considered, it would seem the more prudent course of action that the Caldari should have been alligned with the Minmatar. Add to the fact that the Amarr are the biggest threat in the universe being the largest empire by far. The Caldari being the smallest would find the Minmatars war against the Amarr to be beneficial from an economical standpoint. I assume the Minmatar allied with the Gallente based on notions of freedom and democracy. Humm... just thinking out loud here.... Technically the Amarr never started a war. We are doing God's work and uniting humanity under one banners as humanity should be. Its the other peoples of New Eden that are being evil sods about the whole thing. Ok answer me one question,imagine minmatar beats and rap3 one of ammarian what would you do?Ok imagine the same thing but now victim is minmatar and the attacker is ammarian What would you do? Fck the kdr,i`m going in
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2557	Posted - 2014.02.25 18:59:00 - [53] - Quote Its because the Gallente are using the Minnies like puppets, pulling their strings to their own advantage Slavery under another name really, the Minnies should just revolt again I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack! In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7528	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:01:00 - [54] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Its because the Gallente are using the Minnies like puppets, pulling their strings to their own advantage Slavery under another name really, the Minnies should just revolt again And come back to their true brothers and sisters. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 834	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:02:00 - [55] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Its because the Gallente are using the Minnies like puppets, pulling their strings to their own advantage Slavery under another name really, the Minnies should just revolt again Fk it! Why dont we ditch alliances then and all fight our own cause! Amarr Vs Caldari Vs Gallente Vs Minmatar! ALL OUT WAR! Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB** For the STATE!
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 834	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:03:00 - [56] - Quote True Adamance wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Caldari are "A political" and aren't interested in cultural differences. Only trade, research and advances in technology. Not changing another culture to replicate their own or control another people to create some sort of empire. The war with the Gallente is personal and has a lot to do with their betrayal and destruction of the Caldari's home world. The Gallente started the war. The Amarr started their war by conquering and enslaving the Minmatar (personal). There are 2 victims and 2 perpetrators. A good question would be; why are the Minmatar and Caldari at war? The Gallente attacked the Caldari. Same can be said about the Amarr. The Caldari are not religious and seem accepting of all cultures as long as trade is not disrupted. All things considered, it would seem the more prudent course of action that the Caldari should have been alligned with the Minmatar. Add to the fact that the Amarr are the biggest threat in the universe being the largest empire by far. The Caldari being the smallest would find the Minmatars war against the Amarr to be beneficial from an economical standpoint. I assume the Minmatar allied with the Gallente based on notions of freedom and democracy. Humm... just thinking out loud here.... Technically the Amarr never started a war. We are doing God's work and uniting humanity under one banners as humanity should be. Its the other peoples of New Eden that are being evil sods about the whole thing. I don't think the Minmatar nor the rest of New Eden would support that view lol. Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB For the STATE!
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1769	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:03:00 - [57] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Simple answer we have a **** load of money we loned to the caldri Also the Amarr have arguably the most powerful military in New Eden. Correct me if I am wrong but didn't their entire Fleet (like hundreds/thousands of ships strong) get whelped by a handful of Jovian ships? Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2557	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:05:00 - [58] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Its because the Gallente are using the Minnies like puppets, pulling their strings to their own advantage Slavery under another name really, the Minnies should just revolt again F**k it! Why dont we ditch alliances then and all fight our own cause! Amarr Vs Caldari Vs Gallente Vs Minmatar! ALL OUT WAR! Because we need allies to buy our stuff Think of how much money we could make supplying things that dont need to be wrapped in a roll of duct tape to hold together to the Minnies I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack! In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
Alaika Arbosa Matari Combat Research and Manufacture Inc. Interstellar Murder of Crows 1769	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:06:00 - [59] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Its because the Gallente are using the Minnies like puppets, pulling their strings to their own advantage Slavery under another name really, the Minnies should just revolt again And come back to their true brothers and sisters. If by "come back to their true brothers and sisters" you mean "slip into Ammatar homes at night, slitting throats and torching buildings" then yes, we agree. Nefantar are worse than the Amarr, they sold their own kin and deserve to burn for that. Praise St. Arzad and Pass the Nanohives Karin Midular, gone, never forgotten Executing Amarr Trash since Closed Beta
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 454	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:06:00 - [60] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Its because the Gallente are using the Minnies like puppets, pulling their strings to their own advantage Slavery under another name really, the Minnies should just revolt again The Minmater are our closest allies. About a quarter of their population lives within our space fleeing the slavery from the Amarr. Their Republic is a prime example of what a state can become. We will continue to aid them and ensure the Amarr can never again attempt such a conquest.

Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 454	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:09:00 - [61] - Quote Alaika Arbosa wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Simple answer we have a **** load of money we loned to the caldri Also the Amarr have arguably the most powerful military in New Eden. Correct me if I am wrong but didn't their entire Fleet (like hundreds/thousands of ships strong) get whelped by a handful of Jovian ships? The Battle of Vak'Atioth made the Rebellion easier as much of the Reclamation Fleet was wiped out by the Jovian motherships. That battle happened around the same time as the Gallente-Caldari War.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2559	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:12:00 - [62] - Quote Fraceska wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Its because the Gallente are using the Minnies like puppets, pulling their strings to their own advantage Slavery under another name really, the Minnies should just revolt again The Minmater are our closest allies. About a quarter of their population lives within our space fleeing the slavery from the Amarr. Their Republic is a prime example of what a state can become. We will continue to aid them and ensure the Amarr can never again attempt such a conquest. Its a real shame that your "closest allies" still face discrimination with such a sizable population in your space I remember the noise raised over a Minnie student defending himself after being assaulted by some Gallente students and being arrested for it Truly you Gallente are a shining example of personal freedoms and liberty for prosecuting a young man for defending himself against a group of people who wished him bodily harm I would say that I hate to see how you treat those you dont consider allies but as a Caldari I have more than enough first hand experience with that Also stop sending guys to fight me, if I add more notches to my rail rifle I might end up hacking the thing to bits I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack! In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 835	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:12:00 - [63] - Quote You know what interests me also.... What the hell is going on back in Sol and back on Earth while all of these millennia have passed!? Is there anything in CCP lore that talks about the original Humans? I know that they wanted to expand because they were using up resources but one would assume they pulled through. That is another cool tangent to explore. Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB For the STATE!
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2559	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:14:00 - [64] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: You know what interests me also.... What the hell is going on back in Sol and back on Earth while all of these millennia have passed!? Is there anything in CCP lore that talks about the original Humans? I know that they wanted to expand because they were using up resources but one would assume they pulled through. That is another cool tangent to explore. My head canon is that they have been having a wonderfully long tea party and there is nothing in the lore to contradict me as far as I know I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack! In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7528	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:18:00 - [65] - Quote Fraceska wrote: Alaika Arbosa wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: steadyhand amarr wrote: Simple answer we have a **** load of money we loned to the caldri Also the Amarr have arguably the most powerful military in New Eden. Correct me if I am wrong but didn't their entire Fleet (like hundreds/thousands of ships strong) get whelped by a handful of Jovian ships? The Battle of Vak'Atioth made the Rebellion easier as much of the Reclamation Fleet was wiped out by the Jovian motherships. That battle happened around the same time as the Gallente-Caldari War. Ah this is a common misconception. The Amarr deployed 200 ships against the Jove at Vak Atioth, less than 25% of their military might. Similarly less than a quarter of their fleet based might was deployed by Empress Sarum against the Elder Fleet which was decimated. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10052	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:21:00 - [66] - Quote Why are the Minmatar allied with the Gallente? Well. Where did the Elder Fleet come from? The Federation paid for it. The Gallenteans also offered a great deal of support for the Rebellion, which directly led to 2/3rds of the Minmatar population being freed. Would you be so quick to forget that level of support for your own people? Oh, you just want another ally so the Federation stops trashing all your ground forces. Well, carry on then. It's not going to happen. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona Top Men. 321	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:22:00 - [67] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Fraceska wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Its because the Gallente are using the Minnies like puppets, pulling their strings to their own advantage Slavery under another name really, the Minnies should just revolt again The Minmater are our closest allies. About a quarter of their population lives within our space fleeing the slavery from the Amarr. Their Republic is a prime example of what a state can become. We will continue to aid them and ensure the Amarr can never again attempt such a conquest. Its a real shame that your "closest allies" still face discrimination with such a sizable population in your space I remember the noise raised over a Minnie student defending himself after being assaulted by some Gallente students and being arrested for it Truly you Gallente are a shining example of personal freedoms and liberty for prosecuting a young man for defending himself against a group of people who wished him bodily harm I would say that I hate to see how you treat those you dont consider allies but as a Caldari I have more than enough first hand experience with that Also stop sending guys to fight me, if I add more notches to my rail rifle I might end up hacking the thing to bits Didn`t that student freed all the charges,i want to see that day when gallente do the same in your "loved" state and get free of all charges Fck the kdr,i`m going in
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 455	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:23:00 - [68] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: You know what interests me also.... What the hell is going on back in Sol and back on Earth while all of these millennia have passed!? Is there anything in CCP lore that talks about the original Humans? I know that they wanted to expand because they were using up resources but one would assume they pulled through. That is another cool tangent to explore. Jove/Sleeper, Talocan, Yan Jung and the Takmahl and then add in Enheduanni (the human faction even the Jove fear) and then times that all by a thousand. Terran technology had no reset like many of the races of New Eden. The four ancient ones plus the Enheduanni had almost no lapse in technology.
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 455	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:25:00 - [69] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Ah this is a common misconception. The Amarr deployed 200 ships against the Jove at Vak Atioth, less than 25% of their military might. Similarly less than a quarter of their fleet based might was deployed by Empress Sarum against the Elder Fleet which was decimated. Of that I do not dispute, but the fleet they lost was the Reclamation fleet not their full military might which at the time still surpassed the Gallente.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2560	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:28:00 - [70] - Quote Sergamon Draco wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Fraceska wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Its because the Gallente are using the Minnies like puppets, pulling their strings to their own advantage Slavery under another name really, the Minnies should just revolt again The Minmater are our closest allies. About a quarter of their population lives within our space fleeing the slavery from the Amarr. Their Republic is a prime example of what a state can become. We will continue to aid them and ensure the Amarr can never again attempt such a conquest. Its a real shame that your "closest allies" still face discrimination with such a sizable population in your space I remember the noise raised over a Minnie student defending himself after being assaulted by some Gallente students and being arrested for it Truly you Gallente are a shining example of personal freedoms and liberty for prosecuting a young man for defending himself against a group of people who wished him bodily harm I would say that I hate to see how you treat those you dont consider allies but as a Caldari I have more than enough first hand experience with that Also stop sending guys to fight me, if I add more notches to my rail rifle I might end up hacking the thing to bits Didn`t that student freed all the charges,i want to see that day when gallente do the same in your "loved" state and get free of all charges What you are saying amounts to "Sure we violated his freedoms in blatant contradiction to the ethos we spout but its ok because we let him go in the end" Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack! In fact forget the war and the blackjack.

Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 456	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:32:00 - [71] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: What you are saying amounts to "Sure we violated his freedoms in blatant contradiction to the ethos we spout but its ok because we let him go in the end" Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds In the Federation at least he got that trial. And in the end cooler heads and the right ones prevailed. Sometimes there are abuses we are all after all Human. Yet we must continually strive to work on our Democratic Republic least we become like the Amarr or Caldari were the youth wouldn't have even been given a trial.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10052	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:33:00 - [72] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds Judging by how utterly the Caldari are being dominated in the warzone at present, I should think the Caldari would be the ones torn to shreds. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Sarus Rambo Direct Action Resources 26	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:38:00 - [73] - Quote Sergamon Draco wrote: Sarus Rambo wrote: Fraceska wrote: We were so willing to stop the 100 year war when we discovered the Amarr which were by far the larger threat than the Caldari State. Your morality and wanting to live like Caldari in support of an empire that enslaved entire civilizations for your own greedy empire. Just going to show you how "moral" you can be. How is slavery fitting into your meritocracy, bunch of hypocrites. It would have been better if you staid with the Federation. You should look more into what Gallante have really done. Gallante preach morality but do not necessarily practice it. They secretly practice unmoral tactics, oppression, and corruption. The Caldari personify strength and unity, capitalism and strength. The strong rise and the weak fall. They don't preach morality so they aren't limited by it. They only preach the Darwinist vision of bettering themselves and by extension their people. Through the fire and flames motha f---a. So your "loved" faction don`t have/practice unmoral tactics, oppression, and corruption? We never preach against it so we aren't dirty hypocrites when we oppress and conquer. We also believe the good of the many outweighs the good of the few. Spock would be Caldari.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2560	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:39:00 - [74] - Quote Fraceska wrote: Delta 749 wrote: What you are saying amounts to "Sure we violated his freedoms in blatant contradiction to the ethos we spout but its ok because we let him go in the end" Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds In the Federation at least he got that trial. And in the end cooler heads and the right ones prevailed. Sometimes there are abuses we are all after all Human. Yet we must continually strive to work on our Democratic Republic least we become like the Amarr or Caldari were the youth wouldn't have even been given a trial. You understand how this sounds like you diverting the issue and trying to cover it up by speaking of the grand vision Hell, the argument could be made that with a few words swapped around your reply could be read as an Amarr defending the empires actions which Im sure you would rally against no? I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack! In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2560	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:40:00 - [75] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds Judging by how utterly the Caldari are being dominated in the warzone at present, I should think the Caldari would be the ones torn to shreds. And who took back Caldari Prime even with the deck stacked against them (and we may as well acknowledge there were shenanigans happening space side from the devs to tip the scales towards the G's) I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack! In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona Top Men. 321	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:45:00 - [76] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Sergamon Draco wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Fraceska wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Its because the Gallente are using the Minnies like puppets, pulling their strings to their own advantage Slavery under another name really, the Minnies should just revolt again The Minmater are our closest allies. About a quarter of their population lives within our space fleeing the slavery from the Amarr. Their Republic is a prime example of what a state can become. We will continue to aid them and ensure the Amarr can never again attempt such a conquest. Its a real shame that your "closest allies" still face discrimination with such a sizable population in your space I remember the noise raised over a Minnie student defending himself after being assaulted by some Gallente students and being arrested for it Truly you Gallente are a shining example of personal freedoms and liberty for prosecuting a young man for defending himself against a group of people who wished him bodily harm I would say that I hate to see how you treat those you dont consider allies but as a Caldari I have more than enough first hand experience with that Also stop sending guys to fight me, if I add more notches to my rail rifle I might end up hacking the thing to bits Didn`t that student freed all the charges,i want to see that day when gallente do the same in your "loved" state and get free of all charges What you are saying amounts to "Sure we violated his freedoms in blatant contradiction to the ethos we spout but its ok because we let him go in the end" Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds The caldaris is allways welcome to try me out Fck the kdr,i`m going in
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 836	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:49:00 - [77] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds Judging by how utterly the Caldari are being dominated in the warzone at present, I should think the Caldari would be the ones torn to shreds. That's because all of these mercs keep fighting for the easy mode factions. Humm maybe I should start a Caldari Loyalist channel and start fighting for the Caldari proper and stop being a back bencher. The problem is I am an all rounder. I want and like all of the tech available. I was the same way in eve. Archon and Thanatos really outshine the Caldari Chimera. Same goes for all of the Cap ships unfortunately. Don't worry guys, shield has been UP in EVE for as long as I have known about CCP. (At least in eve on the capital side for sure) Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB For the STATE!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7530	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:52:00 - [78] - Quote Sergamon Draco wrote: The caldaris is allways welcome to try me out Quiet heathen. The day you actually have something of value to discuss regarding the cultures of those people outside your federation will signal the end times.... Just sit down please, you self inflating bravado is not of value here. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Sergamon Draco Rautaleijona Top Men. 321	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:56:00 - [79] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Sergamon Draco wrote: The caldaris is allways welcome to try me out Quiet heathen. The day you actually have something of value to discuss regarding the cultures of those people outside your federation will signal the end times.... Just sit down please, you self inflating bravado is not of value here. UUUH did i hit soft spot and rock "unshakable"ammarian Fck the kdr,i`m going in
Vordred Knight Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 7	Posted - 2014.02.25 19:57:00 - [80] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Sergamon Draco wrote: The caldaris is allways welcome to try me out Quiet heathen. The day you actually have something of value to discuss regarding the cultures of those people outside your federation will signal the end times.... Just sit down please, you self inflating bravado is not of value here. If anyone does not love the Lord Jesus Christ, let them be accursed at His coming. God save you from your fate. Amen!! Someone Tell me they have watched the series i got that quote from PLEASE ashes to ashes dust to dust we are nothing but dust and to dust you shall return - Father Alexander Anderson

Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries 822	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:00:00 - [81] - Quote The caldari haven't really been fighting the minnies. Mens rappola did supply them with the anti amarr slave drug. The caldari mostly has to find an ally against the much larger federation, especially after the gal and min became close. The amarr have also fought the gallente, I forget which prince it was that attacked them but they did. However things are crazy in new eden right now, there is in fighting in the state, change of leadership in the minmatar, the gallente are always in chaos, and the amarr have suffered a series of set backs. A joint minmatar gallente and caldari fleet attacked an amarrian fleet together. It is true that amarr is the greatest threat to humanity, I'm not sure if the old alliances will hold. The relationship between the minmatar and the gallente is strained to say the least, and the state may find its self free of tibis heth. Its going to be very interesting.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7531	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:02:00 - [82] - Quote Sergamon Draco wrote: True Adamance wrote: Sergamon Draco wrote: The caldaris is allways welcome to try me out Quiet heathen. The day you actually have something of value to discuss regarding the cultures of those people outside your federation will signal the end times.... Just sit down please, you self inflating bravado is not of value here. UUUH did i hit soft spot and rock "unshakable"ammarian No but I appreciate intelligent and scholarly conversation when engaging in cultural discourse. Your...."knowledge" is somewhat lacking.....even in regards to your own people....... "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7531	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:03:00 - [83] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: It is true that amarr is the greatest threat to humanity, You've said this before but what makes you think that? "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 837	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:07:00 - [84] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: It is true that amarr is the greatest threat to humanity, You've said this before but what makes you think that? It is the truth Adamance! Though you religious nuts will spin it as "The divine will of god". We Caldari are smart enough to not believe that. Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB For the STATE!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7532	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:11:00 - [85] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: True Adamance wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: It is true that amarr is the greatest threat to humanity, You've said this before but what makes you think that? It is the truth Adamance! Though you religious nuts will spin it as "The divine will of god". We Caldari are smart enough to not believe that. And yet your entire economy would have fallen apart without the money we lent you, and the Gallente overrunning your defences. We don't seek conquest, simply unity of all peoples. And end to fighting, and a time of mankinds rule over everything beneath the heavens. I somewhat consider you all a minority of the mainstream Caldari who by far and away are more respectful, loyal, and noble than this rabble we have assembled here. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Chuckles Brown 167	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:13:00 - [86] - Quote Caldari goes where the most money is. The Amarr are the richest in the galaxy. The official alt of 8213: All other alts are unofficially unofficial Do you pub, brah?
Arx Ardashir Imperium Aeternum 587	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:16:00 - [87] - Quote Fraceska wrote: Their Republic is a prime example of what a state can become. So you support the abolishment of a parliament and the institution of a dictatorship? I knew all that "freedom" stuff was hot air. Hogwash and hot air, the Gallente watchwords! I contribute nothing.
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 838	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:18:00 - [88] - Quote True Adamance wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: True Adamance wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: It is true that amarr is the greatest threat to humanity, You've said this before but what makes you think that? It is the truth Adamance! Though you religious nuts will spin it as "The divine will of god". We Caldari are smart enough to not believe that. And yet your entire economy would have fallen apart without the money we lent you, and the Gallente overrunning your defences. We don't seek conquest, simply unity of all peoples. And end to fighting, and a time of mankinds rule over everything beneath the heavens. I somewhat consider you all a minority of the mainstream Caldari who by far and away are more respectful, loyal, and noble than this rabble we have assembled here. Are you telling me the Caldari are indebted to the Amarr? Oh noesss :( I imagine the Imperial record keepers keep a very close eye on those files ;-) Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB For the STATE!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7534	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:21:00 - [89] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: True Adamance wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: True Adamance wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: It is true that amarr is the greatest threat to humanity, You've said this before but what makes you think that? It is the truth Adamance! Though you religious nuts will spin it as "The divine will of god". We Caldari are smart enough to not believe that. And yet your entire economy would have fallen apart without the money we lent you, and the Gallente overrunning your defences. We don't seek conquest, simply unity of all peoples. And end to fighting, and a time of mankinds rule over everything beneath the heavens. I somewhat consider you all a minority of the mainstream Caldari who by far and away are more respectful, loyal, and noble than this rabble we have assembled here. Are you telling me the Caldari are indebted to the Amarr? Oh noesss :( I imagine the Imperial record keepers keep a very close eye on those files ;-) I wouldn't know but the Empress sent a massive economical renewal package to the Caldari during a time of economic strife, thus rejuvenating their economy as a sign of imperial friendship. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10054	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:26:00 - [90] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds Judging by how utterly the Caldari are being dominated in the warzone at present, I should think the Caldari would be the ones torn to shreds. And who took back Caldari Prime even with the deck stacked against them The Gallente? Oh yes. Yes we did. We shot down your genocide machine even as it threatened to glass our people. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.

Sgt Buttscratch KILL-EM-QUICK 1832	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:28:00 - [91] - Quote Didn't read the thread, I do know the caldari are scum and no-one like them.. just saying. I stick my weiner in two buns and and then give it the gas Sour cream from my spleen into Levi jeans
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7534	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:29:00 - [92] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds Judging by how utterly the Caldari are being dominated in the warzone at present, I should think the Caldari would be the ones torn to shreds. And who took back Caldari Prime even with the deck stacked against them The Gallente? Oh yes. Yes we did. We shot down your genocide machine even as it threatened to glass our people. A major victory to the Federation...but the loss of the planet itself and acceptance of Mens Rappola's demilitarised zone proposal was more a win for the Caldari people that you know or could understand. They reclaimed the power to stand on their homeworld, even if under Federal/State sanctions. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10055	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:31:00 - [93] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds Judging by how utterly the Caldari are being dominated in the warzone at present, I should think the Caldari would be the ones torn to shreds. That's because all of these mercs keep fighting for the easy mode factions. Humm maybe I should start a Caldari Loyalist channel and start fighting for the Caldari proper and stop being a back bencher. The problem is I am an all rounder. I want and like all of the tech available. I was the same way in eve. Archon and Thanatos really outshine the Caldari Chimera. Same goes for all of the Cap ships unfortunately. Don't worry guys, shield has been UP in EVE for as long as I have known about CCP. (At least in eve on the capital side for sure) There's already a Caldari loyalist channel. As it happens, why do you think the Gallente/Minmatar are 'easy mode'? It's not because everyone fight for them, it's because everyone started fighting for them after they gained more momentum and initially crushed the Caldari resistance. There were good fights on day one FW. After that, you just gave up. Probably because of people like you, who complain on the forums instead of fighting for your factions. As for shield being UP in EVE, I find it hilarious that you bring this up. Perhaps it is, on the capital level - very much due to the effect of slave vs crystal sets. In the sub-cap zone, shields are generally better. Indeed, CCP have been buffing armour lately to address that. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries 822	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:32:00 - [94] - Quote Fraceska wrote: Sarus Rambo wrote: Fraceska wrote: We were so willing to stop the 100 year war when we discovered the Amarr which were by far the larger threat than the Caldari State. Your morality and wanting to live like Caldari in support of an empire that enslaved entire civilizations for your own greedy empire. Just going to show you how "moral" you can be. How is slavery fitting into your meritocracy, bunch of hypocrites. It would have been better if you staid with the Federation. You should look more into what Gallante have really done. Gallante preach morality but do not necessarily practice it. They secretly practice unmoral tactics, oppression, and corruption. The Caldari personify strength and unity, capitalism and strength. The strong rise and the weak fall. They don't preach morality so they aren't limited by it. They only preach the Darwinist vision of bettering themselves and by extension their people. Through the fire and flames motha f---a. And how does your meritocracy apply to slavery? The opposite of what you claim to preach? You just as easily stand on the weak and trod on them to keep up your corporate power. There is no voice of the people. You have no Senate, no elections, your press is controlled through the various corporations. A Caldari would sell their mother if it meant advancing in the corporate ladder. You say you unite out of a commonality, in really it is just self preservation. You fear the loss of control as do those at the top of the corporate ladder. We have the first true Democratic Republic of New Eden. We liberate oppressed societies. We bring a renaissance of art, literature and culture. You have corporate labels and propaganda to prop yourselves up. How exactly do the lowest of the low ever get to prove themselves when it is already controlled by the corporate elite? Where were the Caldari when the Minmatar rebelled? Who supplied them? Who trained them? Who protected them? The Caldari state sided with their very oppressors. Claim the high ground all you wish but in the end you cannot trust a Caldari. Slaves? We don't own slaves. Caldari citizens are hard workers, there is no reason to own slaves. The caldari gives every citizen the chance to raise himself up, should he show himself worthy his actions will not go unnoticed. Silly gallente, we don't need a senate or elections, the best people for the job are already there, because they have proven to be the best and work the hardest we trust they have the best interests of their people at heart. A caldari would no sooner sell their mother for a raise than a gallente would sell his for 2 isk. What the caldari fear is your peoples relentless quest to stomp out our culture and way of life. Yes you do have the first democratic republic, and all that comes with it. A man who deals with the serpentis can become president, corruption is everywhere, warmongering to fuel your military industry, corruption built upon lies and broken promises and dreams of your people. As I said before, every caldari citizen can prove his worth, he simply has to show it. We were supplying the minmatar with the anti slave drug, I'm sure that some weapons managed to trickle their way from sansha. Though we couldn't do much because you were trying to stomp us out, don't be selective, your preaching freedom with one hand while oppressing with the other. We found an ally that could bully you, so we made a deal, its not like we had much of a choice. Its far easier to trust a caldari, they are firm on their resolve and you know where they stand. You can't ever trust a gallente, corruption is their life blood. Maybe this guy works for the serpentis too.
Scheneighnay McBob Learning Coalition College 4139	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:34:00 - [95] - Quote From what I understand, the minmatar and caldari aren't on unfriendly terms. Just we're allied with the gallente because they help free slaves. I am your scan error.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7534	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:35:00 - [96] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds Judging by how utterly the Caldari are being dominated in the warzone at present, I should think the Caldari would be the ones torn to shreds. That's because all of these mercs keep fighting for the easy mode factions. Humm maybe I should start a Caldari Loyalist channel and start fighting for the Caldari proper and stop being a back bencher. The problem is I am an all rounder. I want and like all of the tech available. I was the same way in eve. Archon and Thanatos really outshine the Caldari Chimera. Same goes for all of the Cap ships unfortunately. Don't worry guys, shield has been UP in EVE for as long as I have known about CCP. (At least in eve on the capital side for sure) There's already a Caldari loyalist channel. As it happens, why do you think the Gallente/Minmatar are 'easy mode'? It's not because everyone fight for them, it's because everyone started fighting for them after they gained more momentum and initially crushed the Caldari resistance. There were good fights on day one FW. After that, you just gave up. Probably because of people like you, who complain on the forums instead of fighting for your factions. As for shield being UP in EVE, I find it hilarious that you bring this up. Perhaps it is, on the capital level - very much due to the effect of slave vs crystal sets. In the sub-cap zone, shields are generally better. Indeed, CCP have been buffing armour lately to address that. I don't and wont put much stock in Dust's FW system...it doesn't work well. Space side is all that matters. And surprisingly both Amarr and Cal have recently been winning despite issues with Dust's meddling. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10055	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:37:00 - [97] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds Judging by how utterly the Caldari are being dominated in the warzone at present, I should think the Caldari would be the ones torn to shreds. And who took back Caldari Prime even with the deck stacked against them The Gallente? Oh yes. Yes we did. We shot down your genocide machine even as it threatened to glass our people. A major victory to the Federation...but the loss of the planet itself and acceptance of Mens Rappola's demilitarised zone proposal was more a win for the Caldari people that you know or could understand. They reclaimed the power to stand on their homeworld, even if under Federal/State sanctions. Perhaps it was a win for us in terms of demilitarising the planet as well? Although I doubt that peace will last there for long, it was not the Federation which provoked the recent round of hostilities. Had Tibus Heth not insisted on charging his fleets through the cluster to glass billions of innocents and a number of worlds, Caldari Prime would have been quite peaceful. Personally, I'm quite happy to see hostilities on the planet fading, even if the threats of the Caldari and the faces of our dead are forever etched into my memory. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 91	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:37:00 - [98] - Quote Wow, so much finger pointing. I would prefer a Cal/Gal alliance. Corps can bank on selling to the decadant while marginalizing the response from the minmatar. I have a hard time believing they would run back to the Amarr for support. Any & all resources sold to the Amarr will be used toward the cleansing of humanity, including those who provide them. Cal/Gal seem to be, ideologically speaking, closer than they would want to believe. Yes, there have been atrocious events in the past, but these should not preclude a mutually beneficial future. Amarr seem to believe in a unification of all humanity, as do I, but it will not be under the guise of religious purification, it will be for the advancement of all people-FOR THE PEOPLE. (all my personal understand is based on information provided in this thread, baby stepping into the RP-thx...still want the last hour of my life back)
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7534	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:38:00 - [99] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Fraceska wrote: Sarus Rambo wrote: Fraceska wrote: We were so willing to stop the 100 year war when we discovered the Amarr which were by far the larger threat than the Caldari State. Your morality and wanting to live like Caldari in support of an empire that enslaved entire civilizations for your own greedy empire. Just going to show you how "moral" you can be. How is slavery fitting into your meritocracy, bunch of hypocrites. It would have been better if you staid with the Federation. You should look more into what Gallante have really done. Gallante preach morality but do not necessarily practice it. They secretly practice unmoral tactics, oppression, and corruption. The Caldari personify strength and unity, capitalism and strength. The strong rise and the weak fall. They don't preach morality so they aren't limited by it. They only preach the Darwinist vision of bettering themselves and by extension their people. Through the fire and flames motha f---a. And how does your meritocracy apply to slavery? The opposite of what you claim to preach? You just as easily stand on the weak and trod on them to keep up your corporate power. There is no voice of the people. You have no Senate, no elections, your press is controlled through the various corporations. A Caldari would sell their mother if it meant advancing in the corporate ladder. You say you unite out of a commonality, in really it is just self preservation. You fear the loss of control as do those at the top of the corporate ladder. We have the first true Democratic Republic of New Eden. We liberate oppressed societies. We bring a renaissance of art, literature and culture. You have corporate labels and propaganda to prop yourselves up. How exactly do the lowest of the low ever get to prove themselves when it is already controlled by the corporate elite? Where were the Caldari when the Minmatar rebelled? Who supplied them? Who trained them? Who protected them? The Caldari state sided with their very oppressors. Claim the high ground all you wish but in the end you cannot trust a Caldari. Slaves? We don't own slaves. Caldari citizens are hard workers, there is no reason to own slaves. The caldari gives every citizen the chance to raise himself up, should he show himself worthy his actions will not go unnoticed. Silly gallente, we don't need a senate or elections, the best people for the job are already there, because they have proven to be the best and work the hardest we trust they have the best interests of their people at heart. A caldari would no sooner sell their mother for a raise than a gallente would sell his for 2 isk. What the caldari fear is your peoples relentless quest to stomp out our culture and way of life. Yes you do have the first democratic republic, and all that comes with it. A man who deals with the serpentis can become president, corruption is everywhere, warmongering to fuel your military industry, corruption built upon lies and broken promises and dreams of your people. As I said before, every caldari citizen can prove his worth, he simply has to show it. We were supplying the minmatar with the anti slave drug, I'm sure that some weapons managed to trickle their way from sansha. Though we couldn't do much because you were trying to stomp us out, don't be selective, your preaching freedom with one hand while oppressing with the other. We found an ally that could bully you, so we made a deal, its not like we had much of a choice. Its far easier to trust a caldari, they are firm on their resolve and you know where they stand. You can't ever trust a gallente, corruption is their life blood. Maybe this guy works for the serpentis too. He also doesn't seem to know how massively the Gallente are into propaganda and mass media control. Not to mention the power of media censor ship...... Additionally....the greater Galletean culture is a self satisfying, depraved, and utterly narcotic centric cesspit. Compare that to the artistry of the Amarr.....it doesn't really compare...even the Caldari have a stark appreciation for the primary forces of nature as reflected in their mythos. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 840	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:40:00 - [100] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds Judging by how utterly the Caldari are being dominated in the warzone at present, I should think the Caldari would be the ones torn to shreds. That's because all of these mercs keep fighting for the easy mode factions. Humm maybe I should start a Caldari Loyalist channel and start fighting for the Caldari proper and stop being a back bencher. The problem is I am an all rounder. I want and like all of the tech available. I was the same way in eve. Archon and Thanatos really outshine the Caldari Chimera. Same goes for all of the Cap ships unfortunately. Don't worry guys, shield has been UP in EVE for as long as I have known about CCP. (At least in eve on the capital side for sure) There's already a Caldari loyalist channel. As it happens, why do you think the Gallente/Minmatar are 'easy mode'? It's not because everyone fight for them, it's because everyone started fighting for them after they gained more momentum and initially crushed the Caldari resistance. There were good fights on day one FW. After that, you just gave up. Probably because of people like you, who complain on the forums instead of fighting for your factions. As for shield being UP in EVE, I find it hilarious that you bring this up. Perhaps it is, on the capital level - very much due to the effect of slave vs crystal sets. In the sub-cap zone, shields are generally better. Indeed, CCP have been buffing armour lately to address that. Actually I fight for Minmatar myself more. I have never been into the whole RP thing until recently (If you can call it rp lol) To be honest waiting 5, 10 , 20 + mins to get into a battle put me off FW all together. So in some ways I am to blame but blame the system first. As for EVE do you play eve? Damn right shields are better for sub caps (Well that is debateable). I personally loved small gang warfare in EVE. I actually ran a lot of Minmatar ships in eve too, even though I think my guy was at the 70+m sp mark when I left to start playing DUST. In the capital arena, yes it has always been about armour tanking for one reason or another. I loved tech 3 ships though in the sub cap arena. Tengus, and Lokis being my favourite. EDIT - Though once you experience the power of the Macharial, there really is no turning back! Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB For the STATE!

Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10055	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:42:00 - [101] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds Judging by how utterly the Caldari are being dominated in the warzone at present, I should think the Caldari would be the ones torn to shreds. That's because all of these mercs keep fighting for the easy mode factions. Humm maybe I should start a Caldari Loyalist channel and start fighting for the Caldari proper and stop being a back bencher. The problem is I am an all rounder. I want and like all of the tech available. I was the same way in eve. Archon and Thanatos really outshine the Caldari Chimera. Same goes for all of the Cap ships unfortunately. Don't worry guys, shield has been UP in EVE for as long as I have known about CCP. (At least in eve on the capital side for sure) There's already a Caldari loyalist channel. As it happens, why do you think the Gallente/Minmatar are 'easy mode'? It's not because everyone fight for them, it's because everyone started fighting for them after they gained more momentum and initially crushed the Caldari resistance. There were good fights on day one FW. After that, you just gave up. Probably because of people like you, who complain on the forums instead of fighting for your factions. As for shield being UP in EVE, I find it hilarious that you bring this up. Perhaps it is, on the capital level - very much due to the effect of slave vs crystal sets. In the sub-cap zone, shields are generally better. Indeed, CCP have been buffing armour lately to address that. I don't and wont put much stock in Dust's FW system...it doesn't work well. Space side is all that matters. And surprisingly both Amarr and Cal have recently been winning despite issues with Dust's meddling. If we're going to start complaining about FW systems, EVE's side has its fair share of problems as well. I'm actually quite happy sitting at T1 because I have such a massive LP stockpile from the higher tiers that I can cash in tens of billions of ISK at the current prices. Although I would point out that it was the Gallente who last attained complete warzone control. The Caldari have yet to demonstrate the fleet organisation and strength that the JTF displayed in their relentless crushing of the final Caldari systems. As for now, why bother attempting to take more space? We hold our strongholds quite happily, and there's no need for anything else. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7534	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:43:00 - [102] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds Judging by how utterly the Caldari are being dominated in the warzone at present, I should think the Caldari would be the ones torn to shreds. That's because all of these mercs keep fighting for the easy mode factions. Humm maybe I should start a Caldari Loyalist channel and start fighting for the Caldari proper and stop being a back bencher. The problem is I am an all rounder. I want and like all of the tech available. I was the same way in eve. Archon and Thanatos really outshine the Caldari Chimera. Same goes for all of the Cap ships unfortunately. Don't worry guys, shield has been UP in EVE for as long as I have known about CCP. (At least in eve on the capital side for sure) There's already a Caldari loyalist channel. As it happens, why do you think the Gallente/Minmatar are 'easy mode'? It's not because everyone fight for them, it's because everyone started fighting for them after they gained more momentum and initially crushed the Caldari resistance. There were good fights on day one FW. After that, you just gave up. Probably because of people like you, who complain on the forums instead of fighting for your factions. As for shield being UP in EVE, I find it hilarious that you bring this up. Perhaps it is, on the capital level - very much due to the effect of slave vs crystal sets. In the sub-cap zone, shields are generally better. Indeed, CCP have been buffing armour lately to address that. Actually I fight for Minmatar myself more. I have never been into the whole RP thing until recently (If you can call it rp lol) To be honest waiting 5, 10 , 20 + mins to get into a battle put me off FW all together. So in some ways I am to blame but blame the system first. As for EVE do you play eve? Damn right shields are better for sub caps (Well that is debateable). I personally loved small gang warfare in EVE. I actually ran a lot of Minmatar ships in eve too, even though I think my guy was at the 70+m sp mark when I left to start playing DUST. In the capital arena, yes it has always been about armour tanking for one reason or another. I loved tech 3 ships though in the sub cap arena. Tengus, and Lokis being my favourite. EDIT - Though once you experience the power of the Macharial, there really is no turning back! Lol you just asked if he played EVE..... really? "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10055	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:45:00 - [103] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Actually I fight for Minmatar myself more. I have never been into the whole RP thing until recently (If you can call it rp lol) To be honest waiting 5, 10 , 20 + mins to get into a battle put me off FW all together. So in some ways I am to blame but blame the system first. As for EVE do you play eve? Damn right shields are better for sub caps (Well that is debateable). I personally loved small gang warfare in EVE. I actually ran a lot of Minmatar ships in eve too, even though I think my guy was at the 70+m sp mark when I left to start playing DUST. In the capital arena, yes it has always been about armour tanking for one reason or another. I loved tech 3 ships though in the sub cap arena. Tengus, and Lokis being my favourite. EDIT - Though once you experience the power of the Macharial, there really is no turning back! Fair enough, really. Dust's FW system is pretty horrible. I brought it up only for RP purposes, tbh. I barely play FW anymore. There's no point. As for EVE, I do play EVE! I'm quite happy with shields being generally better in EVE atm except for in a few cases, because armour tankers often still have their role and to me that's the most critical thing. T3s are so awesome. I adore them, I really do. Expensive luxuries, but what fine luxuries they are! Machariels are pretty frightening, but I prefer my Vindicator. There's nothing quite like lone wolfing a gang in one of those monstrosities. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7534	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:45:00 - [104] - Quote I'm not wholly familiar with your warzone....but I heard the Cal were pulling their **** together. Amarr/Min Side its more or less been a back and forth for the last few months. Though the Amarr just came down from a reign of power "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1802	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:53:00 - [105] - Quote Gallente believe in total freedom. Amarr believe that slavery helps people along the spiritual path. Gallente naturally dislike Amarr. Caldari dislike Gallente. Makes sense Caldari ally themselves with Amarr. Enemy of my enemy is my friend. The Caldari are probably on better terms with the Mins them you would think. Just the politics of alliances make it assumed that mins don't like Caldari, even though their likely neutral at the center. Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10056	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:55:00 - [106] - Quote True Adamance wrote: I'm not wholly familiar with your warzone....but I heard the Cal were pulling their **** together. Amarr/Min Side its more or less been a back and forth for the last few months. Though the Amarr just came down from a reign of power There's not really been any real fighting for a while. Most of the conflict is driven by alt plexers now. Gallente stronghold systems are in an entirely stable state. Indeed, Nisuwa is at T5 and I can't recall seeing it much less than that for months. I'd like to see activity increase a bit, but there's not a massive amount happening right now it seems. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7535	Posted - 2014.02.25 20:56:00 - [107] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Gallente believe in total freedom. Amarr believe that slavery helps people along the spiritual path. Gallente naturally dislike Amarr. Caldari dislike Gallente. Makes sense Caldari ally themselves with Amarr. Enemy of my enemy is my friend. The Caldari are probably on better terms with the Mins them you would think. Just the politics of alliances make it assumed that mins don't like Caldari, even though their likely neutral at the center. That's not what we believe at all...merely one small aspect of it. Slavery is merely a trial to see if one is worthy of becoming a part of the empire, during which time your receive an Amarrian education and spiritual repurposing. What the Amarr believe is the mankind needs to be unified so that they can rule over all things beneath the heavens. Thus mankind must be united under one people and one empire so that the dignity and divinity of God's destiny can be upheld. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10057	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:01:00 - [108] - Quote Actually, looking at statistics... Gallente forces have killed the most recently, in terms of ISK and in number of kills. We also have significantly fewer pilots than the Caldari - we have 5,500 vs their 8,000. Gallente forces have also generated the most Victory Points. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3313	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:01:00 - [109] - Quote Amarr fights are getting better. Today I lonewolfed 2 matches: First was a stomp, we had one organized squad and held all four objectives. Second was sooooo close We got cloned when it was tick-for-tick on MCCs and 2 objectives for 2 objectives. I imagine that MinFW has gotten lazy. Bojo - Adding chili powder to your experience since early times
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10057	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:03:00 - [110] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Amarr fights are getting better. Today I lonewolfed 2 matches: First was a stomp, we had one organized squad and held all four objectives. Second was sooooo close We got cloned when it was tick-for-tick on MCCs and 2 objectives for 2 objectives. I imagine that MinFW has gotten lazy. I've fought a handful of them with FA squads. We won every match with a full squad, including one vs three squads on the other team - every player on the other team was squadded up with corpmates. The forces aren't actually that strong, it's just that not enough people are opposing them. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.

Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3313	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:08:00 - [111] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: Amarr fights are getting better. Today I lonewolfed 2 matches: First was a stomp, we had one organized squad and held all four objectives. Second was sooooo close We got cloned when it was tick-for-tick on MCCs and 2 objectives for 2 objectives. I imagine that MinFW has gotten lazy. I've fought a handful of them with FA squads. We won every match with a full squad, including one vs three squads on the other team - every player on the other team was squadded up with corpmates. The forces aren't actually that strong, it's just that not enough people are opposing them. I wish I could get my corp to do Amarr FW :( The times I did we won too but it was just too close for their comfort I live life on the edge Bojo - Adding chili powder to your experience since early times
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 2561	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:18:00 - [112] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Delta 749 wrote: Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds Judging by how utterly the Caldari are being dominated in the warzone at present, I should think the Caldari would be the ones torn to shreds. And who took back Caldari Prime even with the deck stacked against them The Gallente? Oh yes. Yes we did. We shot down your genocide machine even as it threatened to glass our people. Ah yes, thats why the planet is once again rightfully in the hands of the Caldari, because you won the battle for it And it would do you well to remember that the person tasked with carrying out the order to glass the planet refused it and the man who issued the order was ousted from power but by all means please pretend that the common sense and ability of the majority of Caldari people were by your own doing (And again, having the devs stack the deck to influence a particular outcome is just sad, not holding that against you or anything but its something that really bothers me since so much is built on "Your choices matter" when the space battle may as well have been a scripted event) I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack! In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 247	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:30:00 - [113] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Gallente believe in total freedom. Amarr believe that slavery helps people along the spiritual path. Gallente naturally dislike Amarr. Caldari dislike Gallente. Makes sense Caldari ally themselves with Amarr. Enemy of my enemy is my friend. The Caldari are probably on better terms with the Mins them you would think. Just the politics of alliances make it assumed that mins don't like Caldari, even though their likely neutral at the center. What is QUITE wierd, if galenteans believe in TOTAL freedom, why they tried to TAKE US OUR BELIVES and DESECREATED OUR MONUMENTS?! No BROTHERS and SISTERS, there is NOTHING like that in their EYES. Only what THEY see is OUR MERCHANDISE. Only what THEY NEED is POMPOUS and LUXURY. THERE were NEVER freedom, just THEY need for MORE. NOTHING else, they just USING others for THEIR needs. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1802	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:32:00 - [114] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Gallente believe in total freedom. Amarr believe that slavery helps people along the spiritual path. Gallente naturally dislike Amarr. Caldari dislike Gallente. Makes sense Caldari ally themselves with Amarr. Enemy of my enemy is my friend. The Caldari are probably on better terms with the Mins them you would think. Just the politics of alliances make it assumed that mins don't like Caldari, even though their likely neutral at the center. That's not what we believe at all...merely one small aspect of it. Slavery is merely a trial to see if one is worthy of becoming a part of the empire, during which time your receive an Amarrian education and spiritual repurposing. What the Amarr believe is the mankind needs to be unified so that they can rule over all things beneath the heavens. Thus mankind must be united under one people and one empire so that the dignity and divinity of God's destiny can be upheld. That's my simplified Amarr belief system ideas. Slavery is the first step along the Amarrian spiritual ladder would be better to say, but it's a far bit easier for me to understand the way I described it. Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7539	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:34:00 - [115] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Gallente believe in total freedom. Amarr believe that slavery helps people along the spiritual path. Gallente naturally dislike Amarr. Caldari dislike Gallente. Makes sense Caldari ally themselves with Amarr. Enemy of my enemy is my friend. The Caldari are probably on better terms with the Mins them you would think. Just the politics of alliances make it assumed that mins don't like Caldari, even though their likely neutral at the center. What is QUITE wierd, if galenteans believe in TOTAL freedom, why they tried to TAKE US OUR BELIVES and DESECREATED OUR MONUMENTS?! You did, well within your rights, withheld information regarding colonies and weapon installations from them.....a terrorist cell did kill millions of people at Nouvelle Rouvenor, not to mention Hueromont........ admittedly most perpetrated by extremists... "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1802	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:34:00 - [116] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Gallente believe in total freedom. Amarr believe that slavery helps people along the spiritual path. Gallente naturally dislike Amarr. Caldari dislike Gallente. Makes sense Caldari ally themselves with Amarr. Enemy of my enemy is my friend. The Caldari are probably on better terms with the Mins them you would think. Just the politics of alliances make it assumed that mins don't like Caldari, even though their likely neutral at the center. What is QUITE wierd, if galenteans believe in TOTAL freedom, why they tried to TAKE US OUR BELIVES and DESECREATED OUR MONUMENTS?! That includes the freedom to believe that ones belief is wrong. There are extremists in every society. Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10058	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:43:00 - [117] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Gallente believe in total freedom. Amarr believe that slavery helps people along the spiritual path. Gallente naturally dislike Amarr. Caldari dislike Gallente. Makes sense Caldari ally themselves with Amarr. Enemy of my enemy is my friend. The Caldari are probably on better terms with the Mins them you would think. Just the politics of alliances make it assumed that mins don't like Caldari, even though their likely neutral at the center. What is QUITE wierd, if galenteans believe in TOTAL freedom, why they tried to TAKE US OUR BELIVES and DESECREATED OUR MONUMENTS?! No BROTHERS and SISTERS, there is NOTHING like that in their EYES. Only what THEY see is OUR MERCHANDISE. Only what THEY NEED is POMPOUS and LUXURY. THERE were NEVER freedom, just THEY need for MORE. NOTHING else, they just USING others for THEIR needs. Allow me to interrupt your rant with some logic. It began with laws that affected everyone, ethnic Gallenteans as well. A few laws on trading and colonisation. Nothing major, nothing restricting your beliefs, ideologies, or even militaries. The Caldari decided that they should be the exception to those laws. Not unfairly, the other member groups of the Gallente Federation objected. The Caldari responded by razing an entire city in a brutal attack that left zero survivors, the largest loss of life this side of New Eden in such a short time since the Collapse. We never imposed ourselves on your beliefs. We never struck first. Every time we have gone to war, the first people murdered were murdered by the Caldari. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Logi Bro Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 2942	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:43:00 - [118] - Quote But then who would the Gallente and Amarr team-up with? Each other? lol at that idea. Shield Recommendations
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7540	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:44:00 - [119] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: But then who would the Gallente and Amarr team-up with? Each other? lol at that idea. We'd crush the Gallente in open war! (( According to Mordu.)) "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3315	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:46:00 - [120] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: But then who would the Gallente and Amarr team-up with? Each other? lol at that idea. Not so lol, I do Gallente Amarr (I'm Gallamarrous) You know why? This isn't a war of the factions, it's war of the armor tanking shield tanking. Imperialists for the win! Bojo - Adding chili powder to your experience since early times

Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1779	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:55:00 - [121] - Quote lol, I find this thread to be a silly Caldari stunt to continue to try and make the Federation look bad, even though they started it. We just ended it. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10058	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:57:00 - [122] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: We just ended it. Repeatedly. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Martyr Saboteur Amarrtyrs 171	Posted - 2014.02.25 21:59:00 - [123] - Quote The reason the Caldari side with the Amarr is because they value prudence over culture. The Amarr have a stability none of the other races have. They have much better technology, technology that both races could work on to improve. They also have the largest and best equipped military. Statistically, the Amarr Empire makes as better ally than an enemy, therefore the Caldari became their allies. It was nothing but a numbers job. "Who would we benefit from allying with more? The Amarr, or the Minmatar?"... The answer to that question is "The Amarr." Totally not Fizzer94's forum alt. Definitely just a random dude.
Martyr Saboteur Amarrtyrs 171	Posted - 2014.02.25 22:03:00 - [124] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: lol, I find this thread to be a silly Caldari stunt to continue to try and make the Federation look bad, even though they started it. We just ended it. What exactly did they start? The Federation began annexing their colonies, and a Caldari splinter group attacked the Federation... So, the Federation responded by orbitally bombarding their home planet. The Federation makes itself look bad, it doesn't need any help. What exactly did the Federation expect from a proud people such as the Caldari when they began oppressing them?! Compliance? Totally not Fizzer94's forum alt. Definitely just a random dude.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1498	Posted - 2014.02.25 22:04:00 - [125] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Logi Bro wrote: But then who would the Gallente and Amarr team-up with? Each other? lol at that idea. We'd crush the Gallente in open war! (( According to Mordu.)) I'd like a second opinion, one less bias "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history" Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1802	Posted - 2014.02.25 22:21:00 - [126] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: lol, I find this thread to be a silly Caldari stunt to continue to try and make the Federation look bad, even though they started it. We just ended it. We just exercised our right to secede after you went batshit because we made frontier defenses and frontier militias. Then you went bat **** about our secession, and started a war to bring us back under your green flag. In the end, you kinda lost because we are still a sovereign state. We both just decided that thousands of lives were enough, and quit fighting. Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?
Sarus Rambo Direct Action Resources 26	Posted - 2014.02.25 22:27:00 - [127] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: True Adamance wrote: We'd crush the Gallente in open war! (( According to Mordu.)) I'd like a second opinion, one less bias Mordu's word is infallible.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10062	Posted - 2014.02.25 22:28:00 - [128] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: lol, I find this thread to be a silly Caldari stunt to continue to try and make the Federation look bad, even though they started it. We just ended it. We just exercised our right to secede after you went batshit because we made frontier defenses and frontier militias. Then you went bat **** about our secession, and started a war to bring us back under your green flag. In the end, you kinda lost because we are still a sovereign state. We both just decided that thousands of lives were enough, and quit fighting. We started a war? The very first lives lost were when you razed an entire city! You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 845	Posted - 2014.02.25 22:49:00 - [129] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: lol, I find this thread to be a silly Caldari stunt to continue to try and make the Federation look bad, even though they started it. We just ended it. Man I just made this thread to think out loud basically. I had no idea people were so passionate on this subject. Like I said, I am not really a true Caldari. I have always been a "jack of all trades". And to Adamance, why is it funny if I asked Arkena Wyrnspire if he/she plays eve? Should I know of his eve character? @ Arkena Wyrnspire - What do you do in eve? Are you part of any of the major alliances or something? (I am certainly not the most clued up person when it comes to all of this I will freely admit, I do however find it all very fascinating) Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB For the STATE!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7555	Posted - 2014.02.25 22:52:00 - [130] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: lol, I find this thread to be a silly Caldari stunt to continue to try and make the Federation look bad, even though they started it. We just ended it. Man I just made this thread to think out loud basically. I had no idea people were so passionate on this subject. Like I said, I am not really a true Caldari. I have always been a "jack of all trades". And to Adamance, why is it funny if I asked Arkena Wyrnspire if he/she plays eve? Should I know of his eve character? @ Arkena Wyrnspire - What do you do in eve? Are you part of any of the major alliances or something? (I am certainly not the most clued up person when it comes to all of this I will freely admit, I do however find it all very fascinating) He does, I do...you probably don't know him.....but I think he is a couple of years ahead of me SP wise....... Either way to the best of my knowledge Arkena has been reasonably big in GAL FW. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha

Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10063	Posted - 2014.02.25 22:55:00 - [131] - Quote True Adamance wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: lol, I find this thread to be a silly Caldari stunt to continue to try and make the Federation look bad, even though they started it. We just ended it. Man I just made this thread to think out loud basically. I had no idea people were so passionate on this subject. Like I said, I am not really a true Caldari. I have always been a "jack of all trades". And to Adamance, why is it funny if I asked Arkena Wyrnspire if he/she plays eve? Should I know of his eve character? @ Arkena Wyrnspire - What do you do in eve? Are you part of any of the major alliances or something? (I am certainly not the most clued up person when it comes to all of this I will freely admit, I do however find it all very fascinating) He does, I do...you probably don't know him.....but I think he is a couple of years ahead of me SP wise....... Either way to the best of my knowledge Arkena has been reasonably big in GAL FW. Not anymore. Regrettably, my corporation is dying now. It's time to move on, but I'm so very reluctant to leave for the last time... @CommanderBolt - I play Gallente FW. Much of my time is also spent doing exploration - wormholes are something that I might well move onto shortly. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 845	Posted - 2014.02.25 22:56:00 - [132] - Quote True Adamance wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: lol, I find this thread to be a silly Caldari stunt to continue to try and make the Federation look bad, even though they started it. We just ended it. Man I just made this thread to think out loud basically. I had no idea people were so passionate on this subject. Like I said, I am not really a true Caldari. I have always been a "jack of all trades". And to Adamance, why is it funny if I asked Arkena Wyrnspire if he/she plays eve? Should I know of his eve character? @ Arkena Wyrnspire - What do you do in eve? Are you part of any of the major alliances or something? (I am certainly not the most clued up person when it comes to all of this I will freely admit, I do however find it all very fascinating) He does, I do...you probably don't know him.....but I think he is a couple of years ahead of me SP wise....... Either way to the best of my knowledge Arkena has been reasonably big in GAL FW. Ahh dude, I went from being a nub in high sec for a few months straight into being a nub in 0.0 getting my st fit battleships tore apart by PL Zealot gangs back in 09 when they were the fotm. I learnt the hard way and loved it! Never did any of the FW in EVE. Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB** For the STATE!
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10063	Posted - 2014.02.25 22:58:00 - [133] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Never did any of the FW in EVE. It's improved vastly since the original implementation. Inferno and subsequent reiterations were very good for it. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 847	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:05:00 - [134] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Never did any of the FW in EVE. It's improved vastly since the original implementation. Inferno and subsequent reiterations were very good for it. Cool man. The thing that always worried me about FW was a loss of standings and having to dodge Navy and customs officers. Is that part still applicable? (I could never lose access to the beloved Jita 4-4. Alts dont count) I've been thinking about resubbing to eve again. It has been a long time indeed. The whole concept of New Eden has never really left me. Is there any sort of DUST community of EVE players? It would be cool to help out with orbitals and the like. Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB For the STATE!
Zahle Undt Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 762	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:11:00 - [135] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Caldari are "A political" and aren't interested in cultural differences. Only trade, research and advances in technology. Not changing another culture to replicate their own or control another people to create some sort of empire. The war with the Gallente is personal and has a lot to do with their betrayal and destruction of the Caldari's home world. The Gallente started the war. The Amarr started their war by conquering and enslaving the Minmatar (personal). There are 2 victims and 2 perpetrators. A good question would be; why are the Minmatar and Caldari at war? The Gallente attacked the Caldari. Same can be said about the Amarr. The Caldari are not religious and seem accepting of all cultures as long as trade is not disrupted. All things considered, it would seem the more prudent course of action that the Caldari should have been alligned with the Minmatar. Add to the fact that the Amarr are the biggest threat in the universe being the largest empire by far. The Caldari being the smallest would find the Minmatars war against the Amarr to be beneficial from an economical standpoint. I assume the Minmatar allied with the Gallente based on notions of freedom and democracy. Humm... just thinking out loud here.... I think you nailed it yourself. What can the scrubby Minmatar offer the Caldari in terms of technology? The Amarr, on the other hand, are the most technologically advanced and largest of the 4 empires. Thus better trade opportunities and access to tech through alliance with the Amarr. Most tankers are like sand people. They frighten easily, but will quickly return...and in greater numbers.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10064	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:12:00 - [136] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Never did any of the FW in EVE. It's improved vastly since the original implementation. Inferno and subsequent reiterations were very good for it. Cool man. The thing that always worried me about FW was a loss of standings and having to dodge Navy and customs officers. Is that part still applicable? (I could never lose access to the beloved Jita 4-4. Alts dont count) I've been thinking about resubbing to eve again. It has been a long time indeed. The whole concept of New Eden has never really left me. Is there any sort of DUST community of EVE players? It would be cool to help out with orbitals and the like. You do... kind of lose access to half of hisec. The opposing factions will attempt to intercept you with their navy, and players from the opposing militias can freely attack you in that hisec. It's not particularly effective though. I've visited Jita several times recently, even picked up a Snake set. Standings haven't really bothered me, and I've managed to repair mine through the odd mission. There's a bit of a community for orbital strike duties in FW - some people take a lot of interest in it. Some are just there for the pay, but others are genuinely interested in the mechanic and it's great to see. Depending on what faction, there are a number of different channels used for OB support. You now get killmails for doing it (which can be amusing for bragging rights - I have one of a fully militia fit heavy with a Thale's) and a decent sum of LP which you can convert into ISK indirectly through LP stores. If you want to give EVE a try again, shoot me a mail - the character I use for these things is 'Arkenai Wyrnspire'. I may even help you out a bit and do things with you if I decide to leave Gal FW. EDIT: I'm genuinely curious as to why you believe it was the Gallente who started the war. Was it not the Caldari who struck first? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1802	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:13:00 - [137] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: lol, I find this thread to be a silly Caldari stunt to continue to try and make the Federation look bad, even though they started it. We just ended it. We just exercised our right to secede after you went batshit because we made frontier defenses and frontier militias. Then you went bat **** about our secession, and started a war to bring us back under your green flag. In the end, you kinda lost because we are still a sovereign state. We both just decided that thousands of lives were enough, and quit fighting. We started a war? The very first lives lost were when you razed an entire city! Quit fighting? Why are you still throwing ship after ship at us? Committing titans, supercarriers, capital fleets, dreadnoughts? Terrorists blew up your underwater town, not Caldari Warships. Your line of thinking would be like "9/11 was caused by Iraqis. NUKE IRAQ." And, You attacked Caldari Prime first. Was it your planet to police? No. But you decided to rally the troops, feed the horses, we're charging! And we retaliated for your troops "Unexpected" Arrival on our home planet. If The Caldari Plopped Battalions of Peacekeepers on Gallente Prime, would you not rally the troops for a counteratack? Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10064	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:17:00 - [138] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: lol, I find this thread to be a silly Caldari stunt to continue to try and make the Federation look bad, even though they started it. We just ended it. We just exercised our right to secede after you went batshit because we made frontier defenses and frontier militias. Then you went bat **** about our secession, and started a war to bring us back under your green flag. In the end, you kinda lost because we are still a sovereign state. We both just decided that thousands of lives were enough, and quit fighting. We started a war? The very first lives lost were when you razed an entire city! Quit fighting? Why are you still throwing ship after ship at us? Committing titans, supercarriers, capital fleets, dreadnoughts? Terrorists blew up your underwater town, not Caldari Warships. Your line of thinking would be like "9/11 was caused by Iraqis. NUKE IRAQ." And, You attacked Caldari Prime first. Was it your planet to police? No. But you decided to rally the troops, feed the horses, we're charging! And we retaliated for your troops "Unexpected" Arrival on our home planet. If The Caldari Plopped Battalions of Peacekeepers on Gallente Prime, would you not rally the troops for a counteratack? Oh, I see, of course. 'Terrorists'. I suppose an entire city dying is alright then. Was it our planet to police? Perhaps not. Was Nouvelle Rouvenor yours to butcher? No. If we had razed an entire city over a trading dispute, would you just let it go? You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 458	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:18:00 - [139] - Quote I do so greatly enjoy this impassioned in character (kinda) discussions! Why I stick around and play is mostly for the lore/fluff experience not so much gameplay anymore
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10064	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:19:00 - [140] - Quote Martyr Saboteur wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: lol, I find this thread to be a silly Caldari stunt to continue to try and make the Federation look bad, even though they started it. We just ended it. What exactly did they start? The Federation began annexing their colonies, and a Caldari splinter group attacked the Federation... So, the Federation responded by orbitally bombarding their home planet. The Federation makes itself look bad, it doesn't need any help. What exactly did the Federation expect from a proud people such as the Caldari when they began oppressing them?! Compliance? The Federation never 'annexed' colonies. They asked, and rightly so, why the Caldari were breaking existing agreements and mobilising forces in secret. The Caldari responded by razing a city and killing every man, woman and child in it. Clearly, we should just let that slide. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7558	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:23:00 - [141] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Martyr Saboteur wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: lol, I find this thread to be a silly Caldari stunt to continue to try and make the Federation look bad, even though they started it. We just ended it. What exactly did they start? The Federation began annexing their colonies, and a Caldari splinter group attacked the Federation... So, the Federation responded by orbitally bombarding their home planet. The Federation makes itself look bad, it doesn't need any help. What exactly did the Federation expect from a proud people such as the Caldari when they began oppressing them?! Compliance? The Federation never 'annexed' colonies. They asked, and rightly so, why the Caldari were breaking existing agreements and mobilising forces in secret. The Caldari responded by razing a city and killing every man, woman and child in it. Clearly, we should just let that slide. You know better than that for all your statements of "rogue elements" at work. Templis Dragonaurs are as extremist as your Right Wing Conservatives. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES 848	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:24:00 - [142] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Never did any of the FW in EVE. It's improved vastly since the original implementation. Inferno and subsequent reiterations were very good for it. Cool man. The thing that always worried me about FW was a loss of standings and having to dodge Navy and customs officers. Is that part still applicable? (I could never lose access to the beloved Jita 4-4. Alts dont count) I've been thinking about resubbing to eve again. It has been a long time indeed. The whole concept of New Eden has never really left me. Is there any sort of DUST community of EVE players? It would be cool to help out with orbitals and the like. You do... kind of lose access to half of hisec. The opposing factions will attempt to intercept you with their navy, and players from the opposing militias can freely attack you in that hisec. It's not particularly effective though. I've visited Jita several times recently, even picked up a Snake set. Standings haven't really bothered me, and I've managed to repair mine through the odd mission. There's a bit of a community for orbital strike duties in FW - some people take a lot of interest in it. Some are just there for the pay, but others are genuinely interested in the mechanic and it's great to see. Depending on what faction, there are a number of different channels used for OB support. You now get killmails for doing it (which can be amusing for bragging rights - I have one of a fully militia fit heavy with a Thale's) and a decent sum of LP which you can convert into ISK indirectly through LP stores. If you want to give EVE a try again, shoot me a mail - the character I use for these things is 'Arkenai Wyrnspire'. I may even help you out a bit and do things with you if I decide to leave Gal FW. EDIT: I'm genuinely curious as to why you believe it was the Gallente who started the war. Was it not the Caldari who struck first? My understanding of eve lore is fuzzy. It was my assumption that after discovering the secret Caldari build up we stood fast in our ideals and did not back down to Gallente pressure to be under your control. At that point you sent forces to control the situation and we struck back. I could be wrong. Ahh cool, so they are not as hard core as concord then. Snake set, thats the speed implants right? I never did FW. Jumped in at the deep end as a newbie and discovered my love for 0.0 PVP from there on in. Literally spent most of my eve time in nullsec small gang warfare. Cool man I will, I am going to mail CCP sometime this week and see if I can get them to give me hours for plex if they still do that. I am pretty sure I still have a few bill left on my main. The problem I will face is no doubt trying to get my billions of isk worth of assets out of no doubt enemy stations in null. I left eve without any preparation, I doubt any of my stuff was in NPC space so getting it out might be difficult. No doubt I will have to fire sell stuff to the Goons or who ever controls Delve these days. What are you looking to do in eve if you leave FW? Join our public channel - ACME SPECIAL FORCES PUB For the STATE!
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1802	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:26:00 - [143] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: lol, I find this thread to be a silly Caldari stunt to continue to try and make the Federation look bad, even though they started it. We just ended it. We just exercised our right to secede after you went batshit because we made frontier defenses and frontier militias. Then you went bat ** about our secession, and started a war to bring us back under your green flag. In the end, you kinda lost because we are still a sovereign state. We both just decided that thousands of lives were enough, and quit fighting. We started a war? The very first lives lost were when you razed an entire city! Quit fighting? Why are you still throwing ship after ship at us? Committing titans, supercarriers, capital fleets, dreadnoughts? Terrorists blew up your underwater town, not Caldari Warships. Your line of thinking would be like "9/11 was caused by Iraqis. NUKE IRAQ." And, You attacked Caldari Prime first. Was it your planet to police? No. But you decided to rally the troops, feed the horses, we're charging! And we retaliated for your troops "Unexpected" Arrival on our home planet. If The Caldari Plopped Battalions of Peacekeepers on Gallente Prime, would you not rally the troops for a counteratack? Oh, I see, of course. 'Terrorists'. I suppose an entire city dying is alright then. Was it our planet to police? Perhaps not. Was Nouvelle Rouvenor yours to butcher? No. If we had razed an entire city over a trading dispute, would you just let it go? Yes. Terrorists. Extremists. I'm not condoning what they did. I'm say that your blind finger pointing is blind and wrong. WE Did nothing. Crazed lunes who were Caldari did. Like I said. Should we blame the entirety of the Gallente for bombarding our home planet from space whilst large amounts of people were still on the planet?** Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7559	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:30:00 - [144] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Godin Thekiller wrote: lol, I find this thread to be a silly Caldari stunt to continue to try and make the Federation look bad, even though they started it. We just ended it. We just exercised our right to secede after you went batshit because we made frontier defenses and frontier militias. Then you went bat **** about our secession, and started a war to bring us back under your green flag. In the end, you kinda lost because we are still a sovereign state. We both just decided that thousands of lives were enough, and quit fighting. We started a war? The very first lives lost were when you razed an entire city! Quit fighting? Why are you still throwing ship after ship at us? Committing titans, supercarriers, capital fleets, dreadnoughts? Terrorists blew up your underwater town, not Caldari Warships. Your line of thinking would be like "9/11 was caused by Iraqis. NUKE IRAQ." And, You attacked Caldari Prime first. Was it your planet to police? No. But you decided to rally the troops, feed the horses, we're charging! And we retaliated for your troops "Unexpected" Arrival on our home planet. If The Caldari Plopped Battalions of Peacekeepers on Gallente Prime, would you not rally the troops for a counteratack? Oh, I see, of course. 'Terrorists'. I suppose an entire city dying is alright then. Was it our planet to police? Perhaps not. Was Nouvelle Rouvenor yours to butcher? No. If we had razed an entire city over a trading dispute, would you just let it go? In Amarrian space we constantly police the space lane for our criminals.....admittedly they are all zealots and cultists of the worst kind....and we do assume guilt before proof is given.....but hell several thousand years of relative imperial stability speak for themselves..... I'm so glad my people aren't batshit insane like yours are..... ((That's right I said it............let the lore nerding rage begin.)) "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1498	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:37:00 - [145] - Quote Amarr don't have batshit insane people? Blood raiders, equilibrium of mankind, and more cults mirroring the blood raiders than I can be bothered to mention. I'm certainly forgettinggroups but if these guys alone aren't crazy enough I'm sure we can find more highly fleshed out groups. "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history" Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7562	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:41:00 - [146] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: Amarr don't have batshit insane people? Blood raiders, equilibrium of mankind, and more cults mirroring the blood raiders than I can be bothered to mention. I'm certainly forgettinggroups but if these guys alone aren't crazy enough I'm sure we can find more highly fleshed out groups. They aren't Amarr. Being Amarr is beyond your bloodline. I've been telling people this for 9 months now...... "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3317	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:44:00 - [147] - Quote True Adamance wrote: They aren't Amarr. Being Amarr is beyond your bloodline. I've been telling people this for 9 months now...... OMG You're pregnant! Bojo - Adding chili powder to your experience since early times
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7562	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:45:00 - [148] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: True Adamance wrote: They aren't Amarr. Being Amarr is beyond your bloodline. I've been telling people this for 9 months now...... OMG You're pregnant! God does wondrous and mysterious things..... "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Bojo The Mighty L.O.T.I.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 3319	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:49:00 - [149] - Quote Bojo The Magnificent wrote: True Adamance wrote: OMG You're pregnant! God does wondrous and mysterious things..... I laughed so hard my water broke Bojo - Adding chili powder to your experience since early times
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1498	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:53:00 - [150] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Amarr don't have batshit insane people? Blood raiders, equilibrium of mankind, and more cults mirroring the blood raiders than I can be bothered to mention. I'm certainly forgettinggroups but if these guys alone aren't crazy enough I'm sure we can find more highly fleshed out groups. They aren't Amarr. Being Amarr is beyond your bloodline. I've been telling people this for 9 months now...... https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Equilibrium_of_Mankind according to this the Eom founder was of pure amarr blood, as for the blood raiders omir isn't pure amarr however he is the son of a noble https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Omir_Sarikusa. "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history" Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7564	Posted - 2014.02.25 23:56:00 - [151] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: True Adamance wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Amarr don't have batshit insane people? Blood raiders, equilibrium of mankind, and more cults mirroring the blood raiders than I can be bothered to mention. I'm certainly forgettinggroups but if these guys alone aren't crazy enough I'm sure we can find more highly fleshed out groups. They aren't Amarr. Being Amarr is beyond your bloodline. I've been telling people this for 9 months now...... https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Equilibrium_of_Mankind according to this the Eom founder was of pure amarr blood, as for the blood raiders omir isn't pure amarr however he is the son of a noble https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Omir_Sarikusa. I mean being Amarr is more than just blood. True Amarr is a title for the Children of Athra..... it means nothing if we are one unified with our people, nor if we do not believe in God. If any names have been stripped from the Book of Names...they are not Amarr at all. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood General Tso's Alliance 1498	Posted - 2014.02.26 00:02:00 - [152] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: True Adamance wrote: Vermaak Doe wrote: Amarr don't have batshit insane people? Blood raiders, equilibrium of mankind, and more cults mirroring the blood raiders than I can be bothered to mention. I'm certainly forgettinggroups but if these guys alone aren't crazy enough I'm sure we can find more highly fleshed out groups. They aren't Amarr. Being Amarr is beyond your bloodline. I've been telling people this for 9 months now...... https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Equilibrium_of_Mankind according to this the Eom founder was of pure amarr blood, as for the blood raiders omir isn't pure amarr however he is the son of a noble https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Omir_Sarikusa. I mean being Amarr is more than just blood. True Amarr is a title for the Children of Athra..... it means nothing if we are one unified with our people, nor if we do not believe in God. If any names have been stripped from the Book of Names...they are not Amarr at all. Sorry I just reread your post and realized I had misinterpreted it. However your point only stands in theory, simply classifying your crazies as a separate race of beings does not change what they were born into. Also they do still worship your God, but they show their praise via a different interpretation. "Always fight dirty, the victor writes history" Eve toon: Drake Doe, professional hero tackler, full time pretzel boy
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3295	Posted - 2014.02.26 00:06:00 - [153] - Quote If you truly know the Caldari way, then you would know that the Minmatar character profile doesn't align with the thought patterns of Caldari. Of course you can point similarities. Lost of Caldari Prime = Enslavement. Both can be considered underdogs fighting for their respect. But the way Caldari carry themselves and their outlook on their situation is not of Minmatar's outlook. The Caldari are stern, strong and silent. We uphold ourselves to a much more honorable way of life. Any true citizen of Caldari would understand this. Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 410	Posted - 2014.02.26 00:10:00 - [154] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Caldari are "A political" and aren't interested in cultural differences. Only trade, research and advances in technology. Not changing another culture to replicate their own or control another people to create some sort of empire. The war with the Gallente is personal and has a lot to do with their betrayal and destruction of the Caldari's home world. The Gallente started the war. The Amarr started their war by conquering and enslaving the Minmatar (personal). There are 2 victims and 2 perpetrators. A good question would be; why are the Minmatar and Caldari at war? The Gallente attacked the Caldari. Same can be said about the Amarr. The Caldari are not religious and seem accepting of all cultures as long as trade is not disrupted. All things considered, it would seem the more prudent course of action that the Caldari should have been alligned with the Minmatar. Add to the fact that the Amarr are the biggest threat in the universe being the largest empire by far. The Caldari being the smallest would find the Minmatars war against the Amarr to be beneficial from an economical standpoint. I assume the Minmatar allied with the Gallente based on notions of freedom and democracy. Humm... just thinking out loud here.... The Caldari are "allied" with the Amarr to maintain a balance of power. Further more the Minmatar are allied with the Gallente which would make allying with them impossible. You also seem to have many misconceptions of the current Amarr empire. They aren't the villains you think they are and they sure as hell aren't the biggest threat to the verse; ever hear of Sansha's Nation? I highly recommend that you go talk to an Amarr like True_Adamance to learn more about the Amarr. Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7569	Posted - 2014.02.26 00:13:00 - [155] - Quote medomai grey wrote: CommanderBolt wrote: Caldari are "A political" and aren't interested in cultural differences. Only trade, research and advances in technology. Not changing another culture to replicate their own or control another people to create some sort of empire. The war with the Gallente is personal and has a lot to do with their betrayal and destruction of the Caldari's home world. The Gallente started the war. The Amarr started their war by conquering and enslaving the Minmatar (personal). There are 2 victims and 2 perpetrators. A good question would be; why are the Minmatar and Caldari at war? The Gallente attacked the Caldari. Same can be said about the Amarr. The Caldari are not religious and seem accepting of all cultures as long as trade is not disrupted. All things considered, it would seem the more prudent course of action that the Caldari should have been alligned with the Minmatar. Add to the fact that the Amarr are the biggest threat in the universe being the largest empire by far. The Caldari being the smallest would find the Minmatars war against the Amarr to be beneficial from an economical standpoint. I assume the Minmatar allied with the Gallente based on notions of freedom and democracy. Humm... just thinking out loud here.... The Caldari are "allied" with the Amarr to maintain a balance of power. Further more the Minmatar are allied with the Gallente which would make allying with them impossible. You also seem to have many misconceptions of the current Amarr empire. They aren't the villains you think they are and they sure as hell aren't the biggest threat to the verse; ever hear of Sansha's Nation? I highly recommend that you go talk to an Amarr like True_Adamance to learn more about the Amarr. You speak the truth.....there is much darkness in this cluster. And it is my duty to root it out and destroy it. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 250	Posted - 2014.02.26 00:15:00 - [156] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: If you truly know the Caldari way, then you would know that the Minmatar character profile doesn't align with the thought patterns of Caldari. Of course you can point similarities. Lost of Caldari Prime = Enslavement. Both can be considered underdogs fighting for their respect. But the way Caldari carry themselves and their outlook on their situation is not of Minmatar's outlook. The Caldari are stern, strong and silent. We uphold ourselves to a much more honorable way of life. Any true citizen of Caldari would understand this. And thats reason why they should put power together. From strategy means, if we aly with Minmatar there will be galenteans alone, Amarss will start open war with them like with heretics and we will prosper with mataris on that basis. There will be bigger progress and both Caldari vbrothers and sisters and mataris will profiting by that, because we will both be from the hook. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7569	Posted - 2014.02.26 00:18:00 - [157] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: Michael Arck wrote: If you truly know the Caldari way, then you would know that the Minmatar character profile doesn't align with the thought patterns of Caldari. Of course you can point similarities. Lost of Caldari Prime = Enslavement. Both can be considered underdogs fighting for their respect. But the way Caldari carry themselves and their outlook on their situation is not of Minmatar's outlook. The Caldari are stern, strong and silent. We uphold ourselves to a much more honorable way of life. Any true citizen of Caldari would understand this. And thats reason why they should put power together. From strategy means, if we aly with Minmatar there will be galenteans alone, Amarss will start open war with them like with heretics and we will prosper with mataris on that basis. There will be bigger progress and both Caldari vbrothers and sisters and mataris will profiting by that, because we will both be from the hook. You would be a fool to think you could cross the Empress (if you read the lore Jamyl Sarum is not a woman to **** with)....for the most part Michael is right, the Caldari are not only honourable, but they have long memories, and will not forget what the Empire has helped them achieve. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 250	Posted - 2014.02.26 00:25:00 - [158] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: Michael Arck wrote: If you truly know the Caldari way, then you would know that the Minmatar character profile doesn't align with the thought patterns of Caldari. Of course you can point similarities. Lost of Caldari Prime = Enslavement. Both can be considered underdogs fighting for their respect. But the way Caldari carry themselves and their outlook on their situation is not of Minmatar's outlook. The Caldari are stern, strong and silent. We uphold ourselves to a much more honorable way of life. Any true citizen of Caldari would understand this. And thats reason why they should put power together. From strategy means, if we aly with Minmatar there will be galenteans alone, Amarss will start open war with them like with heretics and we will prosper with mataris on that basis. There will be bigger progress and both Caldari vbrothers and sisters and mataris will profiting by that, because we will both be from the hook. You would be a fool to think you could cross the Empress (if you read the lore Jamyl Sarum is not a woman to **** with)....for the most part Michael is right, the Caldari are not only honourable, but they have long memories, and will not forget what the Empire has helped them achieve. Honestly who profiting in WAR rule the WAR. If Amarr will in genocide with Galenteans, there will be just one only profit and that profit will be on Caldari and Minmatar. War can be decimating even if you have great empire, but who will rule the market that will be one and only winner. Because without travels and market there is not logisticks and without them war can be lost in few days. It really seems like you dont think like Caldari my dear theocratical friend. btw.:with all respect im not in this empress thingy, i dont see prosperity in one person, but in progress Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7576	Posted - 2014.02.26 00:29:00 - [159] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: True Adamance wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: Michael Arck wrote: If you truly know the Caldari way, then you would know that the Minmatar character profile doesn't align with the thought patterns of Caldari. Of course you can point similarities. Lost of Caldari Prime = Enslavement. Both can be considered underdogs fighting for their respect. But the way Caldari carry themselves and their outlook on their situation is not of Minmatar's outlook. The Caldari are stern, strong and silent. We uphold ourselves to a much more honorable way of life. Any true citizen of Caldari would understand this. And thats reason why they should put power together. From strategy means, if we aly with Minmatar there will be galenteans alone, Amarss will start open war with them like with heretics and we will prosper with mataris on that basis. There will be bigger progress and both Caldari vbrothers and sisters and mataris will profiting by that, because we will both be from the hook. You would be a fool to think you could cross the Empress (if you read the lore Jamyl Sarum is not a woman to **** with)....for the most part Michael is right, the Caldari are not only honourable, but they have long memories, and will not forget what the Empire has helped them achieve. Honestly who profiting in WAR rule the WAR. If Amarr will in genocide with Galenteans, there will be just one only profit and that profit will be on Caldari and Minmatar. War can be decimating even if you have great empire, but who will rule the market that will be one and only winner. Because without travels and market there is not logisticks and without them war can be lost in few days. It really seems like you dont think like Caldari my dear theocratical friend. btw.:with all respect im not in this empress thingy, i dont see prosperity in one person, but in progress I am not one to make speculations over imperial politics but why do you suppose the Gallente are just going to let the Caldari waltz away with their allies...... I don't think you understand what the Minmatar are.... "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 462	Posted - 2014.02.26 00:34:00 - [160] - Quote So the Shiigeru in orbit over Caldari Prime threatening to kill all of the Gallente still on the world is okay? That is twice now the Caldari threatened to kill millions of innocent lives. The Shiigeru had to be taken out to get the Gallente off world. We were brothers and sisters for a long time. The Caldari were instrumental in helping to forge the Federation. Yet various aspects of each group wanted to ensure war was the only option. The attack on Nouvelle Rouvenor was just the beginning. It allowed a right wing government to take over that authorized the deployment of the Gallente Military. Tovil-Toba didn't help matters when he rammed the carrier into a city of 2 million people. Even before the war officially started 2,500,000 Gallente were dead.

Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries 822	Posted - 2014.02.26 00:34:00 - [161] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: It is true that amarr is the greatest threat to humanity, You've said this before but what makes you think that? Because your empress is infected, her mind has been touched by a force that is pure evil, the devil himself. Your empress sits upon the throne of the most powerful empire in new eden and this consciousness seeks only to destroy all of humanity. Your faith must be strong amarrian, for her sake for she battles this force constantly in her mind. You would really enjoy the book Templar one.
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 250	Posted - 2014.02.26 00:37:00 - [162] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: True Adamance wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: Michael Arck wrote: If you truly know the Caldari way, then you would know that the Minmatar character profile doesn't align with the thought patterns of Caldari. Of course you can point similarities. Lost of Caldari Prime = Enslavement. Both can be considered underdogs fighting for their respect. But the way Caldari carry themselves and their outlook on their situation is not of Minmatar's outlook. The Caldari are stern, strong and silent. We uphold ourselves to a much more honorable way of life. Any true citizen of Caldari would understand this. And thats reason why they should put power together. From strategy means, if we aly with Minmatar there will be galenteans alone, Amarss will start open war with them like with heretics and we will prosper with mataris on that basis. There will be bigger progress and both Caldari vbrothers and sisters and mataris will profiting by that, because we will both be from the hook. You would be a fool to think you could cross the Empress (if you read the lore Jamyl Sarum is not a woman to **** with)....for the most part Michael is right, the Caldari are not only honourable, but they have long memories, and will not forget what the Empire has helped them achieve. Honestly who profiting in WAR rule the WAR. If Amarr will in genocide with Galenteans, there will be just one only profit and that profit will be on Caldari and Minmatar. War can be decimating even if you have great empire, but who will rule the market that will be one and only winner. Because without travels and market there is not logisticks and without them war can be lost in few days. It really seems like you dont think like Caldari my dear theocratical friend. btw.:with all respect im not in this empress thingy, i dont see prosperity in one person, but in progress I am not one to make speculations over imperial politics but why do you suppose the Gallente are just going to let the Caldari waltz away with their allies...... I don't think you understand what the Minmatar are.... Minmatars will be interested if they will know how their "democratic friends" working with other (basicaly same thingy like amarr with them, no ofence). And yes i-¦ll know how their leaders will be furious from that. (boyo this should be awesome chance for some roleplaying, imagine visit meating with empress closest orators, or with minmatars and their leaders) XD Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 251	Posted - 2014.02.26 00:41:00 - [163] - Quote Fraceska wrote: So the Shiigeru in orbit over Caldari Prime threatening to kill all of the Gallente still on the world is okay? That is twice now the Caldari threatened to kill millions of innocent lives. The Shiigeru had to be taken out to get the Gallente off world. We were brothers and sisters for a long time. The Caldari were instrumental in helping to forge the Federation. Yet various aspects of each group wanted to ensure war was the only option. The attack on Nouvelle Rouvenor was just the beginning. It allowed a right wing government to take over that authorized the deployment of the Gallente Military. Tovil-Toba didn't help matters when he rammed the carrier into a city of 2 million people. Even before the war officially started 2,500,000 Gallente were dead. We WERE till you TRIED to make US like you WANTED. You told that nicely. "CALDARI WAS INSTRUMENT.." How beautifull is IT. Dead BROTHERS and SISTERS now YELLING from their UNMARKED graves. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 410	Posted - 2014.02.26 00:42:00 - [164] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: And thats reason why they should put power together. From strategy means, if we aly with Minmatar there will be galenteans alone, Amarss will start open war with them like with heretics and we will prosper with mataris on that basis. There will be bigger progress and both Caldari vbrothers and sisters and mataris will profiting by that, because we will both be from the hook. If we Caldari ally with the Minmatar, the following would happen: Gallente attack Caldari. Minmatar are asked by both Gallente and Caldari for support. The Minmatar side with Gallente because the Minmatar are too dependent and intertwined with the Gallente. It's just how the Gallente set the Minmatar up. No, Amarr would not start open war with Gallente. Again, learn more about the current Amarr. No, we Caldari would not be off the hook. Gallente have a tendency to engage in activities that start wars with us Caldari. Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 462	Posted - 2014.02.26 00:43:00 - [165] - Quote I said instrumental, as in having great important, not they they were an instrument. If you're going to quote me do so the right way and not in an edited way like your state media does please?
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 251	Posted - 2014.02.26 00:50:00 - [166] - Quote medomai grey wrote: Sam Tektzby wrote: And thats reason why they should put power together. From strategy means, if we aly with Minmatar there will be galenteans alone, Amarss will start open war with them like with heretics and we will prosper with mataris on that basis. There will be bigger progress and both Caldari vbrothers and sisters and mataris will profiting by that, because we will both be from the hook. If we Caldari ally with the Minmatar, the following would happen: Gallente attack Caldari. Minmatar are asked by both Gallente and Caldari for support. The Minmatar side with Gallente because the Minmatar are too dependent and intertwined with the Gallente. It's just how the Gallente set the Minmatar up. No, Amarr would not start open war with Gallente. Again, learn more about the current Amarr. No, we Caldari would not be off the hook. Gallente have a tendency to engage in activities that start wars with us Caldari. I dont think so, how the market funders they cant attack us easily. Most of galenteans are basicaly adicted to luxury and if they atack on US that will be pure atack on corps. Whats mean no luxury atall. Minmatar, after our intervention will know about galenteans crimes before and will not accept their tries for lighment anymore. Finaly and with open territory amarr arive to finaly crush their "prickle in eye" galenteans. And Caldari with silent cooperation of Minmatar will just see beautifull way to progress through galenteans spiled blood. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 251	Posted - 2014.02.26 00:53:00 - [167] - Quote Fraceska wrote: I said instrumental, as in having great important, not they they were an instrument. If you're going to quote me do so the right way and not in an edited way like your state media does please? Funny how it is from mouth of galentean. And what about CALDARI pure identity. What about OUR DESECRATED MONUMENTS. Is that still HOW brothers care about themselves?! YOUT know what?! I WANT to BELIEVE you. BUT never for a PRICE of my ANCESTORS, BROTHERS and SISTERS blood. And that blood is on YOU, the galenteans HANDS ALREADY. Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator
Sam Tektzby Better Hide R Die 251	Posted - 2014.02.26 00:55:00 - [168] - Quote Oki Boyos and Gals it was fun this role playing, actualy bigger one, than dust itself (just imagine us somewhere in cyberbar XD). Seeya later Support - Tactician/Support Deteis - Orator
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 410	Posted - 2014.02.26 01:36:00 - [169] - Quote Fraceska wrote: So the Shiigeru in orbit over Caldari Prime threatening to kill all of the Gallente still on the world is okay? That is twice now the Caldari threatened to kill millions of innocent lives. The Shiigeru had to be taken out to get the Gallente off world Funny thing about that event was that the Admiral Yanala did everything in her power to protect the planet from the collateral damage her Shiigeru would do from crashing into it. Even going so far as to not use her titan's doomsday weapons to defend her vessal in fear of damaging the planet. The Gallente? They destroyed the titan and celebrated their victory. Even though they indirectly killed many civilians, both Caldari and Gallente, by forcing the Shiiguru to crash into Caldari Prime. Fraceska wrote: We were brothers and sisters for a long time. The Caldari were instrumental in helping to forge the Federation. Yet various aspects of each group wanted to ensure war was the only option. The attack on Nouvelle Rouvenor was just the beginning. It allowed a right wing government to take over that authorized the deployment of the Gallente Military. Tovil-Toba didn't help matters when he rammed the carrier into a city of 2 million people. Even before the war officially started 2,500,000 Gallente were dead. When Caldari and Gallente were "friends", the Gallente smothered the Caldari with rules and regulations the Caldari felt unfavorable. When the Caldari were caught ignoring these rules and regulations imposed by the Gallente, they wanted to peacefully leave the Federation. How did the Gallente respond? By blockading the Caldari home world with warships that could bombard the planet's surface. Afraid and powerless against the threats in orbit, a few Caldari radicals lashed out at the closest thing associated to their fears; the result was the tragedy that was Nouvelle Rouvenor. Admiral Tovil-Toba and his fleet are heroes that went on a suicide mission to save his people. Between the millions of Caldari who faced death by bombardment from Gallente war ships and the millions of Gallente who were killed by Tovil-Toba's titan crashing into their planet, do you dare to criticize Tovil-Toba's desperation to save his own people? Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P
negative49er Vherokior Combat Logistics Minmatar Republic 518	Posted - 2014.02.26 01:40:00 - [170] - Quote Also has anyone notice that amarrs and minmatar weaponary are strong against their allies Minmatar> Gallente Amarr> Caldari Dedicated Shotgun Scout and professional backstabber

Vance Vyth State Covenant AQ 75	Posted - 2014.02.26 01:44:00 - [171] - Quote why cant we all just live in harmony and forgive each other ..? (a¦ê+ä-£a¦ê) n++Gö¦pâçGòÉGÇö _ - (a¦Ñ_a¦Ñ) "+60"
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7579	Posted - 2014.02.26 01:45:00 - [172] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: True Adamance wrote: Pvt Numnutz wrote: It is true that amarr is the greatest threat to humanity, You've said this before but what makes you think that? Because your empress is infected, her mind has been touched by a force that is pure evil, the devil himself. Your empress sits upon the throne of the most powerful empire in new eden and this consciousness seeks only to destroy all of humanity. Your faith must be strong amarrian, for her sake for she battles this force constantly in her mind. You would really enjoy the book Templar one. IC you don't know that...thus that's not a good enough reason. No doubt I would. Characters like Jamyl Sarum are interesting, and in their own way the kinds of anti-heroes needed to get things done. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Llast 326 An Arkhos 2092	Posted - 2014.02.26 01:52:00 - [173] - Quote Vance Vyth wrote: why cant we all just live in harmony and forgive each other ..? Because the Amarr keep respawning KRRROOOOOOM
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 411	Posted - 2014.02.26 01:56:00 - [174] - Quote Sam Tektzby wrote: I dont think so, how the market funders they cant attack us easily. Most of galenteans are basicaly adicted to luxury and if they atack on US that will be pure atack on corps. Whats mean no luxury atall. Minmatar, after our intervention will know about galenteans crimes before and will not accept their tries for lighment anymore. Finaly and with open territory amarr arive to finaly crush their "prickle in eye" galenteans. And Caldari with silent cooperation of Minmatar will just see beautifull way to progress through galenteans spiled blood. You are mistaken if you think that Caldari manufacture Gallente goods. Gallente have their own corporations and manufactures to produce their own goods and services. There is nothing besides military might and our alliance with the Amarr to discourage Gallente attacks. Minmatar already know of our history with the Gallente. But it's irrelevant because the Minmatar are too dependent and intertwined with Gallente. And again, you don't understand the current Amarr. Amarr have ceased their expansionist behavior under their Empress. Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P
Martyr Saboteur Amarrtyrs 172	Posted - 2014.02.26 01:58:00 - [175] - Quote negative49er wrote: Also has anyone notice that amarrs and minmatar weaponary are strong against their allies Minmatar> Gallente Amarr> Caldari Well,Caldari Railguns and missiles would destroy Amarrian armor, just as much as Gallentean Plasma would destroy Matari shields... Totally not Fizzer94's forum alt. Definitely just a random dude.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7580	Posted - 2014.02.26 01:58:00 - [176] - Quote Llast 326 wrote: Vance Vyth wrote: why cant we all just live in harmony and forgive each other ..? Because the Amarr keep respawning Cause someone has to blow this scouts ass away with a rail gun...... "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries 822	Posted - 2014.02.26 03:18:00 - [177] - Quote medomai grey wrote: Fraceska wrote: So the Shiigeru in orbit over Caldari Prime threatening to kill all of the Gallente still on the world is okay? That is twice now the Caldari threatened to kill millions of innocent lives. The Shiigeru had to be taken out to get the Gallente off world Funny thing about that event was that the Admiral Yanala did everything in her power to protect the planet from the collateral damage her Shiigeru would do from crashing into it. Even going so far as to not use her titan's doomsday weapons to defend her vessal in fear of damaging the planet. The Gallente? They destroyed the titan and celebrated their victory. Even though they indirectly killed many civilians, both Caldari and Gallente, by forcing the Shiiguru to crash into Caldari Prime. Fraceska wrote: We were brothers and sisters for a long time. The Caldari were instrumental in helping to forge the Federation. Yet various aspects of each group wanted to ensure war was the only option. The attack on Nouvelle Rouvenor was just the beginning. It allowed a right wing government to take over that authorized the deployment of the Gallente Military. Tovil-Toba didn't help matters when he rammed the carrier into a city of 2 million people. Even before the war officially started 2,500,000 Gallente were dead. When Caldari and Gallente were "friends", the Gallente smothered the Caldari with rules and regulations the Caldari felt unfavorable. When the Caldari were caught ignoring these rules and regulations imposed by the Gallente, they wanted to peacefully leave the Federation. How did the Gallente respond? By blockading the Caldari home world with warships that could bombard the planet's surface. Afraid and powerless against the threats in orbit, a few Caldari radicals lashed out at the closest thing associated to their fears; the result was the tragedy that was Nouvelle Rouvenor. Admiral Tovil-Toba and his fleet are heroes that went on a suicide mission to save his people. Between the millions of Caldari who faced death by bombardment from Gallente war ships and the millions of Gallente who were killed by Tovil-Toba's titan crashing into their planet, do you dare to criticize Tovil-Toba's desperation to save his own people? All we wanted was autonomy, but the gallente couldn't stand that. We expressed our desire to leave the federation, and we got the blockade of caldari prime. Tovil toba was a hero, his actions allowed our people the chance to escape and make a world of our own, free from those who would opress us. One thing tho, it was a chimera class carrier that tovil crashed into gallente prime, not a titan.
Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 464	Posted - 2014.02.26 03:40:00 - [178] - Quote A society must exist with laws and guidelines. History as shown and still shows in the Amarr and Caldari states what happens when human aggression is allowed to run rampantly unchecked. Slavery of entire cultures. We knew what would happen the those Caldari not blessed to have parents in the highest positions to go to the right schools to make the right connections. You do not have a true meritocracy. Your elite wanted their own power to dictate to those beneath without elections or voices of their own. So before you call the kettle black look at your own pot.
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 411	Posted - 2014.02.26 03:42:00 - [179] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: All we wanted was autonomy, but the gallente couldn't stand that. We expressed our desire to leave the federation, and we got the blockade of caldari prime. Tovil toba was a hero, his actions allowed our people the chance to escape and make a world of our own, free from those who would opress us. One thing tho, it was a chimera class carrier that tovil crashed into gallente prime, not a titan. You got me there. Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7593	Posted - 2014.02.26 03:48:00 - [180] - Quote Fraceska wrote: A society must exist with laws and guidelines. History as shown and still shows in the Amarr and Caldari states what happens when human aggression is allowed to run rampantly unchecked. Slavery of entire cultures. We knew what would happen the those Caldari not blessed to have parents in the highest positions to go to the right schools to make the right connections. You do not have a true meritocracy. Your elite wanted their own power to dictate to those beneath without elections or voices of their own. So before you call the kettle black look at your own pot. How do you know this? Your people barely emerged out of the dark ages and you are talking like there was a time before that? I don't think you know much about your own people Franceska, you can pretend your people live in their word of excess and narcotics....but the harsh truth is that behind that thin veneer that if your media image that you propagate to yourself.....the filth is there, it is present, and your people suffer for it. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha

Fraceska Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 464	Posted - 2014.02.26 03:50:00 - [181] - Quote And do you not think it odd that Admiral Yanala did not get revived? She act to preserve lives and yet Heth wanted more violence. A madman. When threats are made against the Gallente people we have no choice but to act. All it does is create a senseless cycle of violence.
Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 461	Posted - 2014.02.26 03:52:00 - [182] - Quote Fraceska wrote: And do you not think it odd that Admiral Yanala did not get revived? She act to preserve lives and yet Heth wanted more violence. A madman. When threats are made against the Gallente people we have no choice but to act. All it does is create a senseless cycle of violence. This filth speak of madness.....you spout hypocrisies as soon as you accuse your foe of them.... Heth was a great man and could have been the future of our State.
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 411	Posted - 2014.02.26 04:19:00 - [183] - Quote Fraceska wrote: A society must exist with laws and guidelines. History as shown and still shows in the Amarr and Caldari states what happens when human aggression is allowed to run rampantly unchecked. Slavery of entire cultures. We knew what would happen the those Caldari not blessed to have parents in the highest positions to go to the right schools to make the right connections. You do not have a true meritocracy. Your elite wanted their own power to dictate to those beneath without elections or voices of their own. So before you call the kettle black look at your own pot. But my pot is chrome in color... no, it really is. Jokes aside, I'm going to assume you are addressing me because I replied to your post; you make it difficult to know who your addressing because you don't quote or name anyone. As for the comment you made quoted above, it has little context to the subject of our previous post. I was disgusted by how you could pick and choose history and neglect the rest of the events that surround it. Are you now trying to justify Gallente violence towards other races because they're different than you and don't share the same ideals as you? For your information the Amarr Empire, has the lowest crime rate in all of New Eden. And the Caldari posses Jita, the most prominent trade hub in New Eden. All fruits I'm sure of being evil, evil people. Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 411	Posted - 2014.02.26 04:34:00 - [184] - Quote Harkon Vysarii wrote: Fraceska wrote: And do you not think it odd that Admiral Yanala did not get revived? She act to preserve lives and yet Heth wanted more violence. A madman. When threats are made against the Gallente people we have no choice but to act. All it does is create a senseless cycle of violence. This filth speak of madness.....you spout hypocrisies as soon as you accuse your foe of them.... Heth was a great man and could have been the future of our State. Heath was a sick man slowly falling into madness. He forgot his obligation to the people who supported him and made choices that were not sound. Fraceska, Admiral Yanala was revived, but murdered by Heath. Furthermore Heath's opinions are not the opinions of the State and his position was an abnormality within the Caldari government. Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P
Meeko Fent Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State 1807	Posted - 2014.02.26 04:48:00 - [185] - Quote medomai grey wrote: Fraceska wrote: A society must exist with laws and guidelines. History as shown and still shows in the Amarr and Caldari states what happens when human aggression is allowed to run rampantly unchecked. Slavery of entire cultures. We knew what would happen the those Caldari not blessed to have parents in the highest positions to go to the right schools to make the right connections. You do not have a true meritocracy. Your elite wanted their own power to dictate to those beneath without elections or voices of their own. So before you call the kettle black look at your own pot. But my pot is chrome in color... no, it really is. Jokes aside, I'm going to assume you are addressing me because I replied to your post; you make it difficult to know who your addressing because you don't quote or name anyone. As for the comment you made quoted above, it has little context to the subject of our previous post. I was disgusted by how you could pick and choose history and neglect the rest of the events that surround it. Are you now trying to justify Gallente violence towards other races because they're different than you and don't share the same ideals as you? For your information the Amarr Empire, has the lowest crime rate in all of New Eden. And the Caldari posses Jita, the most prominent trade hub in New Eden. All fruits I'm sure of being evil, evil people. Evil is subjective. Perhaps the best way to describe it is that Amarr and Caldari are very objectiveised. Caldari With Profit, and Efficency, Amarr with Religion and Order. Looking for a Interesting Character Name? Why Not Zoidberg?
Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 462	Posted - 2014.02.26 05:00:00 - [186] - Quote medomai grey wrote: Harkon Vysarii wrote: Fraceska wrote: And do you not think it odd that Admiral Yanala did not get revived? She act to preserve lives and yet Heth wanted more violence. A madman. When threats are made against the Gallente people we have no choice but to act. All it does is create a senseless cycle of violence. This filth speak of madness.....you spout hypocrisies as soon as you accuse your foe of them.... Heth was a great man and could have been the future of our State. Heath was a sick man slowly falling into madness. He forgot his obligation to the people who supported him and made choices that were not sound. Fraceska, Admiral Yanala was revived, but murdered by Heath. Furthermore Heath's opinions are not the opinions of the State and his position was an abnormality within the Caldari government. Your words and weak will pacifism fails to move me. Changes had to be made within the State, and Heth was the man to lead us to that future. Yanala was a coward, the civilian population means nothing compared the to preventing those Gallente bastards from holding our homeworld a moment longer. Heth was right to try to rally the Provosts for a second invasion, its a shame the Caldari were weak, they had not stomach for a fight after Caldari Prime and betrayed themselves and their ancestors. I dare you cowards to call yourselves Patriots, not one of you is truly Caldari. Either halfbreeds or test tube bred halfmen, you liberalist Ishukone scum.
Michael Arck Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu Lokun Listamenn 3295	Posted - 2014.02.26 05:03:00 - [187] - Quote OUCH!!! That burn is definitely 3rd degree. I stand behind my kirjuun Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu. Are you OUKH?
Harkon Vysarii Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn 463	Posted - 2014.02.26 05:10:00 - [188] - Quote Michael Arck wrote: OUCH!!! That burn is definitely 3rd degree. I stand behind my kirjuun Some of us.... former Patriots...now Practicals, in Heth's absence, despise everything those weak willed cowards, Liberalist Ishukone scum, and impure Caldari halfbreeds stand for. (( And no these ideals do not relect those of the greater Caldari state, only the Practicals, and extremists like the Templis Dragonaurs))
Martyr Saboteur Amarrtyrs 173	Posted - 2014.02.26 05:14:00 - [189] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: medomai grey wrote: Fraceska wrote: A society must exist with laws and guidelines. History as shown and still shows in the Amarr and Caldari states what happens when human aggression is allowed to run rampantly unchecked. Slavery of entire cultures. We knew what would happen the those Caldari not blessed to have parents in the highest positions to go to the right schools to make the right connections. You do not have a true meritocracy. Your elite wanted their own power to dictate to those beneath without elections or voices of their own. So before you call the kettle black look at your own pot. But my pot is chrome in color... no, it really is. Jokes aside, I'm going to assume you are addressing me because I replied to your post; you make it difficult to know who your addressing because you don't quote or name anyone. As for the comment you made quoted above, it has little context to the subject of our previous post. I was disgusted by how you could pick and choose history and neglect the rest of the events that surround it. Are you now trying to justify Gallente violence towards other races because they're different than you and don't share the same ideals as you? For your information the Amarr Empire, has the lowest crime rate in all of New Eden. And the Caldari posses Jita, the most prominent trade hub in New Eden. All fruits I'm sure of being evil, evil people. Evil is subjective. Perhaps the best way to describe it is that Amarr and Caldari are very objectiveised. Caldari With Profit, and Efficency, Amarr with Religion and Order. Minmatar with Culture and Pride. Gallente with Freedom and Control. None of those things are inherently bad, but all four Empires are blinded while trying to stay true to these values. Totally not Fizzer94's forum alt. Definitely just a random dude.
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 411	Posted - 2014.02.26 05:33:00 - [190] - Quote Harkon Vysarii wrote: Your words and weak will pacifism fails to move me. Changes had to be made within the State, and Heth was the man to lead us to that future. Yanala was a coward, the civilian population means nothing compared the to preventing those Gallente bastards from holding our homeworld a moment longer. Heth was right to try to rally the Provosts for a second invasion, its a shame the Caldari were weak, they had not stomach for a fight after Caldari Prime and betrayed themselves and their ancestors. I dare you cowards to call yourselves Patriots, not one of you is truly Caldari. Either halfbreeds or test tube bred halfmen, you liberalist Ishukone scum. The cost of retaking Caldari Prime by force is high when we can have it through diplomacy. Unnecessary displays of force by Heath have only weakened the State. Calm your blood lust, there will come a time when you can kill all the Gallente you want. Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P

Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1782	Posted - 2014.02.26 05:34:00 - [191] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Yes. Terrorists. Extremists. I'm not condoning what they did. I'm say that your blind finger pointing is blind and wrong. WE Did nothing. Crazed lunes who were Caldari did. Like I said. Should we blame the entirety of the Gallente for bombarding our home planet from space whilst large amounts of people were still on the planet? EDIT- We know that wasn't done by terrorists. Interesting; you guys did the exact same **** with not only the destruction of Caldari monuments on Cal Prime, but the Nyx smashing into the station. Even sadder, you praised the man who lead both efforts. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Godin Thekiller OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 1782	Posted - 2014.02.26 05:39:00 - [192] - Quote Fraceska wrote: So the Shiigeru in orbit over Caldari Prime threatening to kill all of the Gallente still on the world is okay? That is twice now the Caldari threatened to kill millions of innocent lives. The Shiigeru had to be taken out to get the Gallente off world. We were brothers and sisters for a long time. The Caldari were instrumental in helping to forge the Federation. Yet various aspects of each group wanted to ensure war was the only option. The attack on Nouvelle Rouvenor was just the beginning. It allowed a right wing government to take over that authorized the deployment of the Gallente Military. Tovil-Toba didn't help matters when he rammed the carrier into a city of 2 million people. Even before the war officially started 2,500,000 Gallente were dead. Actually he didn't ram jack **** into anything. He was killed by the broker and the broker (who was asked by Heath, your former leader) did it. 'lights cigar' fuck with me, and I'll melt your face off. Gallente forever! Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10068	Posted - 2014.02.26 07:03:00 - [193] - Quote medomai grey wrote: Funny thing about that event was that the Admiral Yanala did everything in her power to protect the planet from the collateral damage her Shiigeru would do from crashing into it. Even going so far as to not use her titan's doomsday weapons to defend her vessal in fear of damaging the planet. The Gallente? They destroyed the titan and celebrated their victory. Even though they indirectly killed many civilians, both Caldari and Gallente, by forcing the Shiiguru to crash into Caldari Prime. Perhaps we celebrated our victory because your idiocy in putting a titan in low orbit was quite a bit better than letting it glass every inhabited planet in system? Godin Thekiller wrote: Fraceska wrote: So the Shiigeru in orbit over Caldari Prime threatening to kill all of the Gallente still on the world is okay? That is twice now the Caldari threatened to kill millions of innocent lives. The Shiigeru had to be taken out to get the Gallente off world. We were brothers and sisters for a long time. The Caldari were instrumental in helping to forge the Federation. Yet various aspects of each group wanted to ensure war was the only option. The attack on Nouvelle Rouvenor was just the beginning. It allowed a right wing government to take over that authorized the deployment of the Gallente Military. Tovil-Toba didn't help matters when he rammed the carrier into a city of 2 million people. Even before the war officially started 2,500,000 Gallente were dead. Actually he didn't ram jack **** into anything. He was killed by the broker and the broker (who was asked by Heath, your former leader) did it. You are referring to the Malkalen incident, not Hueromont. Besides which, that isn't knowledge that many past Ishukone's inner circle are likely to know. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
MINA Longstrike 2Shitz 1Giggle 316	Posted - 2014.02.26 07:36:00 - [194] - Quote The Caldari are a generally quiet, industrious people with a stoic spirituality that is willing to forgoe the identity of the individual for the identity of the group. They have helped out the minmatar before out of sheer goodwill but the minmatar economy is prettymuch on life support from the gallente federation - making the minmatar essentially the North Korea to the Gallentes china. The Minmatar are a loud, fast, vivid, outspoken group that can often be lazy and fractious when it comes to anything but the amarr, the minmatar place a very heavy emphasis on being an individual first and a member of a tribe second and spend a large time trying to figure out when to reconcile the needs of the individual versus the needs of the group. For the most part the caldari have little to offer the minmatar tribes because it is impossible to penetrate caldari society unless you were born as a caldari and raised in one of the corporations or are willing to become a client state, racial mixing is an abomination to both the caldari and the minmatar who desperately try to keep racial bloodlines 'pure'. In short the two groups just really don't mesh as individuals or cultures and they don't really have anything to offer each other.
medomai grey WarRavens League of Infamy 412	Posted - 2014.02.26 08:31:00 - [195] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Perhaps we celebrated our victory because your idiocy in putting a titan in low orbit was quite a bit better than letting it glass every inhabited planet in system? First, I did not place any titan in orbit around Caldari Prime. You flatter me but I don't have that much power. Second, the titan was placed as a deterrent to prevent Gallente from invading Caldari Prime again. In the event that Gallente did invade again, the titan was to fire and kill the Gallente inhabitants on the planet; in effect they were hostages. The comedy is that the Gallente destroyed the titan to save the Gallente hostages but instead ended up killing the very people they were trying to save. Third. As stated before, the titan was in place as a deterrent and not as a forward offensive used to "glass" every inhabited planet in the system. We don't need to keep titans parked in a stationary orbit above a planet to kill every inhabitant of your systems, that would be silly. Blatant Dust_514 recruiting in the silliest of places. :P
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 10083	Posted - 2014.02.26 20:27:00 - [196] - Quote medomai grey wrote: Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Perhaps we celebrated our victory because your idiocy in putting a titan in low orbit was quite a bit better than letting it glass every inhabited planet in system? the titan was placed as a deterrent to prevent Gallente from invading Caldari Prime again. In the event that Gallente did invade again, the titan was to fire and kill the Gallente inhabitants on the planet; in effect they were hostages. The comedy is that the Gallente destroyed the titan to save the Gallente hostages but instead ended up killing the very people they were trying to save. Heth threatened to glass every planet in Luminaire, not just Arcurio and the other Gallente districts on Caldari Prime. The casualties from the titan crashing were a hell of a lot less than if we'd just let you glass the place. The titan was not only a protection for Caldari Prime, but also for the border systems. Had Visera Yanala decided to go through with Heth's orders to begin murdering civilians, it would have sparked a series of conflicts across Caldari/Gallente space. I'm quite glad that the Federation Navy chose not to invade the weakened state after it lost so many capitals at Luminaire. Not only did it put us above Heth's insanities, it prevented a larger scale conflict from breaking out. At least one side has the sanity to not provoke mass killings. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Rusty Shallows 1041	Posted - 2014.02.26 21:41:00 - [197] - Quote Obodiah Garro wrote: OP makes a good point but from a strict RP point of view, Caldari would side with the Amarr anyway, a strong empire that already has long and ancient trade routes, a massive stellar fleet that needs constantly upgrades, the strong ties with the Khanid Kingdom etc. Amarr has more money to spend. Thank you Garro, someone had to bring that part up. The State's closest relation has traditionally been with an Amar region that rebelled over succession issues. Anyone else notice the similarity? On the Eve side this is very evident by the Amar missile boats developed with the Kingdom. Dear customer, As a representative of Expert Interventions our parent NOH Mega Conglomerate is capable of providing all your alliance needs from the local school bake-sale to a planetary pacification force. Our professional customer centered representatives are ready and happy to take your calls. Thank you for making NOH fourth place in the interstellar entertainment industry, the Gallante stranglehold on reality-holo-vid programs and scantily clad starlets is loosening. Be sure to tune in for new seasons of "MOAR EXPLOSIONS!" and "Bikini Girls with Gunz." Here, have some candy and a Like. :-) Forums > Game
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7634	Posted - 2014.02.26 22:26:00 - [198] - Quote MINA Longstrike wrote: The Caldari are a generally quiet, industrious people with a stoic spirituality that is willing to forgoe the identity of the individual for the identity of the group. They have helped out the minmatar before out of sheer goodwill but the minmatar economy is prettymuch on life support from the gallente federation - making the minmatar essentially the North Korea to the Gallentes china. The Minmatar are a loud, fast, vivid, outspoken group that can often be lazy and fractious when it comes to anything but the amarr, the minmatar place a very heavy emphasis on being an individual first and a member of a tribe second and spend a large time trying to figure out when to reconcile the needs of the individual versus the needs of the group. For the most part the caldari have little to offer the minmatar tribes because it is impossible to penetrate caldari society unless you were born as a caldari and raised in one of the corporations or are willing to become a client state, racial mixing is an abomination to both the caldari and the minmatar who desperately try to keep racial bloodlines 'pure'. In short the two groups just really don't mesh as individuals or cultures and they don't really have anything to offer each other. The best summary yet. Cultural Purity is a large driving force in Caldari society. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 7635	Posted - 2014.02.26 22:33:00 - [199] - Quote [quote=CommanderBolt]Caldari are "A political" and aren't interested in cultural differences. Only trade, research and advances in technology. Not changing another culture to replicate their own or control another people to create some sort of empire.quote] WHOA HOLY SHIY JUST SAW THIS! Yes the Caldari are. They are at war with the Gallente over the perceived degradation and threat to their puritanical cultural identity, a cultural identity the defines and drives their people in everything they do, and one that has driven them into war with a large nation. Most Caldari would die before they disgrace their families, ancestors, megacorporations, sense of culture. "Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha


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