And do you not think it odd that Admiral Yanala did not get revived? She act to preserve lives and yet Heth wanted more violence. A madman. When threats are made against the Gallente people we have no choice but to act. All it does is create a senseless cycle of violence.

A society must exist with laws and guidelines. History as shown and still shows in the Amarr and Caldari states what happens when human aggression is allowed to run rampantly unchecked. Slavery of entire cultures. We knew what would happen the those Caldari not blessed to have parents in the highest positions to go to the right schools to make the right connections. You do not have a true meritocracy. Your elite wanted their own power to dictate to those beneath without elections or voices of their own. So before you call the kettle black look at your own pot.

This filth speak of madness.....you spout hypocrisies as soon as you accuse your foe of them....

Heth was a great man and could have been the future of our State.

But my pot is chrome in color... no, it really is.

Jokes aside, I'm going to assume you are addressing me because I replied to your post; you make it difficult to know who your addressing because you don't quote or name anyone.

As for the comment you made quoted above, it has little context to the subject of our previous post. I was disgusted by how you could pick and choose history and neglect the rest of the events that surround it. Are you now trying to justify Gallente violence towards other races because they're different than you and don't share the same ideals as you?

For your information the Amarr Empire, has the lowest crime rate in all of New Eden. And the Caldari posses Jita, the most prominent trade hub in New Eden. All fruits I'm sure of being evil, evil people.

Heath was a sick man slowly falling into madness. He forgot his obligation to the people who supported him and made choices that were not sound.

Fraceska, Admiral Yanala was revived, but murdered by Heath. Furthermore Heath's opinions are not the opinions of the State and his position was an abnormality within the Caldari government.

OUCH!!! That burn is definitely 3rd degree. I stand behind my kirjuun

Evil is subjective.

Perhaps the best way to describe it is that Amarr and Caldari are very objectiveised.

Caldari With Profit, and Efficency, Amarr with Religion and Order.

Your words and weak will pacifism fails to move me.

Changes had to be made within the State, and Heth was the man to lead us to that future. Yanala was a coward, the civilian population means nothing compared the to preventing those Gallente bastards from holding our homeworld a moment longer.

Heth was right to try to rally the Provosts for a second invasion, its a shame the Caldari were weak, they had not stomach for a fight after Caldari Prime and betrayed themselves and their ancestors.

I dare you cowards to call yourselves Patriots, not one of you is truly Caldari. Either halfbreeds or test tube bred halfmen, you liberalist Ishukone scum.

Yes. Terrorists. Extremists.

I'm not condoning what they did. I'm say that your blind finger pointing is blind and wrong.

WE Did nothing. Crazed lunes who were Caldari did.

Like I said. Should we blame the entirety of the Gallente for bombarding our home planet from space whilst large amounts of people were still on the planet?

EDIT- We know that wasn't done by terrorists.

So the Shiigeru in orbit over Caldari Prime threatening to kill all of the Gallente still on the world is okay? That is twice now the Caldari threatened to kill millions of innocent lives. The Shiigeru had to be taken out to get the Gallente off world.

We were brothers and sisters for a long time. The Caldari were instrumental in helping to forge the Federation. Yet various aspects of each group wanted to ensure war was the only option. The attack on Nouvelle Rouvenor was just the beginning. It allowed a right wing government to take over that authorized the deployment of the Gallente Military. Tovil-Toba didn't help matters when he rammed the carrier into a city of 2 million people. Even before the war officially started 2,500,000 Gallente were dead.

Funny thing about that event was that the Admiral Yanala did everything in her power to protect the planet from the collateral damage her Shiigeru would do from crashing into it. Even going so far as to not use her titan's doomsday weapons to defend her vessal in fear of damaging the planet.

The Gallente? They destroyed the titan and celebrated their victory. Even though they indirectly killed many civilians, both Caldari and Gallente, by forcing the Shiiguru to crash into Caldari Prime.

Actually he didn't ram jack **** into anything. He was killed by the broker and the broker (who was asked by Heath, your former leader) did it.

Perhaps we celebrated our victory because your idiocy in putting a titan in low orbit was quite a bit better than letting it glass every inhabited planet in system?

the titan was placed as a deterrent to prevent Gallente from invading Caldari Prime again. In the event that Gallente did invade again, the titan was to fire and kill the Gallente inhabitants on the planet; in effect they were hostages. The comedy is that the Gallente destroyed the titan to save the Gallente hostages but instead ended up killing the very people they were trying to save.

OP makes a good point but from a strict RP point of view, Caldari would side with the Amarr anyway, a strong empire that already has long and ancient trade routes, a massive stellar fleet that needs constantly upgrades, the strong ties with the Khanid Kingdom etc.

Amarr has more money to spend.

The Caldari are a generally quiet, industrious people with a stoic spirituality that is willing to forgoe the identity of the individual for the identity of the group. They have helped out the minmatar before out of sheer goodwill but the minmatar economy is prettymuch on life support from the gallente federation - making the minmatar essentially the North Korea to the Gallentes china.

The Minmatar are a loud, fast, vivid, outspoken group that can often be lazy and fractious when it comes to anything but the amarr, the minmatar place a very heavy emphasis on being an individual first and a member of a tribe second and spend a large time trying to figure out when to reconcile the needs of the individual versus the needs of the group. For the most part the caldari have little to offer the minmatar tribes because it is impossible to penetrate caldari society unless you were born as a caldari and raised in one of the corporations or are willing to become a client state, racial mixing is an abomination to both the caldari and the minmatar who desperately try to keep racial bloodlines 'pure'.

In short the two groups just really don't mesh as individuals or cultures and they don't really have anything to offer each other.