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XANDER KAG
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Posted - 2014.02.25 14:03:00 -
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Atiim wrote:The Caldari and Minmatar are a lot closer than many would like to believe.
I forgot the story, but the leader of a Caldari corporation (Ishukone?) was a very close friend to one of the a Republic's leaders, and even gave him a Vitoc antidote.
Another example of this:
The Ishukone Assault Sub-Machine Gun
inb4 The Amarrican't brigade
^This, Not only that, but a lot of Minmatar ex-slaves moved there after the Amarr Empress freed the 9th Gen's and above. So we're closer to neutral than hostile.
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XANDER KAG
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Posted - 2014.02.25 14:10:00 -
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Fox Gaden wrote:The Caldari are less inclined toward moral outrage. The Minmatar played the victom card to gain Gallente support. Once the Minmatar allied with the Gallente the Caldari had little choice by to join with the Amarr.
If the Minmatar had not joined the Gallente the Caldari might have allied with them, but the reasons would have been economic or tactical. The Caldari are not so easily manipulated through righteous indignation.
Unlikely, it was Gallente intervention/Battle of Vak'Atoith that allowed the the Minmatar to break free. So the Gallente got to play the benevolent savior card.
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XANDER KAG
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Posted - 2014.02.25 16:46:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote: It was the Minmatar who started the violence.
While history may agree with the rest of that, on this I have to disagree. Yes we started the Rebellions, but the violence started when the Amarr attacked the Minmatar Homeworlds enslaving millions.
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XANDER KAG
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Posted - 2014.02.25 17:24:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote:Mr Yassavi, why you deny that your race is slavers.There is evidence ammarrians drug minmatarians with vitoc to keep them obedient,and treating them like they are mere cattle.In my eyes you are same as sanha`s nation or blood raiders,even caldarians are more humane than your race
Even I have to say that goes a bit far. Sansha destroy's everything about you in his conversion process, you might as well be dead((think Mass effect Husks)). If you're an Amarrian slave at least you have a chance at freedom.
Blood raiders just go on rampages of capturing victims and then having them slowly bleed to death. Being the victim of such shouldn't even be something you wish on your worst enemy.
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XANDER KAG
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Posted - 2014.02.25 17:26:00 -
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Texs Red wrote:Nobody is perfect.
The Gallente will socially consume your society until you are pulled into it's Federation.
The Caldari will take control of your entire economy though shell corporations, then take over
The Amarr are at least honest with what they want, to enslave all who aren't true Amarr
The Minmatar are anti-governmental tribes who will go terrorist on anybody who interferes with their lifestyle
To be honest the last people I would want to be allied with is the Minmatar. Each other race you can at least understand what they want and can find some kind of middle ground (or agree to disagree), the MInmatar however is like treading on egg shells all the time because of how touchy they can be about tribal identity or pride.
For example: A Gallente terrorist blows up a bunch of Gallente citizens and one visiting Minmatar leader. The Minmatar declare it entirely Minmatar business and demand that the prisoner be given to them before standing trial in a Gallente court.
A Minmatar fleet almost invaded Gallente space to try and steal him away.
They are not rational.
So if a Minmatar terrorist killed your President or a very important senator and we refused to give him over to your court system because he killed some of our citizens your people would sit by complacently and watch?
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XANDER KAG
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Posted - 2014.02.25 17:32:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote:XANDER KAG wrote:Texs Red wrote:Nobody is perfect.
The Gallente will socially consume your society until you are pulled into it's Federation.
The Caldari will take control of your entire economy though shell corporations, then take over
The Amarr are at least honest with what they want, to enslave all who aren't true Amarr
The Minmatar are anti-governmental tribes who will go terrorist on anybody who interferes with their lifestyle
To be honest the last people I would want to be allied with is the Minmatar. Each other race you can at least understand what they want and can find some kind of middle ground (or agree to disagree), the MInmatar however is like treading on egg shells all the time because of how touchy they can be about tribal identity or pride.
For example: A Gallente terrorist blows up a bunch of Gallente citizens and one visiting Minmatar leader. The Minmatar declare it entirely Minmatar business and demand that the prisoner be given to them before standing trial in a Gallente court.
A Minmatar fleet almost invaded Gallente space to try and steal him away.
They are not rational. So if a Minmatar terrorist killed your President or a very important senator and we refused to give him over to your court system because he killed some of our citizens your people would sit by complacently and watch? Still we gave terrorist to minmatar and he got death penalty
Because a Presidential assassin would have totally not gotten the death penalty. Karin had that much influence with us as a Ray of Matar.
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