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Fraceska
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:09:00 -
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Alaika Arbosa wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Simple answer we have a **** load of money we loned to the caldri Also the Amarr have arguably the most powerful military in New Eden. Correct me if I am wrong but didn't their entire Fleet (like hundreds/thousands of ships strong) get whelped by a handful of Jovian ships?
The Battle of Vak'Atioth made the Rebellion easier as much of the Reclamation Fleet was wiped out by the Jovian motherships. That battle happened around the same time as the Gallente-Caldari War. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2559
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:12:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Its because the Gallente are using the Minnies like puppets, pulling their strings to their own advantage Slavery under another name really, the Minnies should just revolt again The Minmater are our closest allies. About a quarter of their population lives within our space fleeing the slavery from the Amarr. Their Republic is a prime example of what a state can become. We will continue to aid them and ensure the Amarr can never again attempt such a conquest.
Its a real shame that your "closest allies" still face discrimination with such a sizable population in your space I remember the noise raised over a Minnie student defending himself after being assaulted by some Gallente students and being arrested for it Truly you Gallente are a shining example of personal freedoms and liberty for prosecuting a young man for defending himself against a group of people who wished him bodily harm
I would say that I hate to see how you treat those you dont consider allies but as a Caldari I have more than enough first hand experience with that Also stop sending guys to fight me, if I add more notches to my rail rifle I might end up hacking the thing to bits
I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack!
In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
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CommanderBolt
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:12:00 -
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You know what interests me also.... What the hell is going on back in Sol and back on Earth while all of these millennia have passed!?
Is there anything in CCP lore that talks about the original Humans? I know that they wanted to expand because they were using up resources but one would assume they pulled through. That is another cool tangent to explore.
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:14:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:You know what interests me also.... What the hell is going on back in Sol and back on Earth while all of these millennia have passed!?
Is there anything in CCP lore that talks about the original Humans? I know that they wanted to expand because they were using up resources but one would assume they pulled through. That is another cool tangent to explore.
My head canon is that they have been having a wonderfully long tea party and there is nothing in the lore to contradict me as far as I know
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:18:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:Alaika Arbosa wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:Simple answer we have a **** load of money we loned to the caldri Also the Amarr have arguably the most powerful military in New Eden. Correct me if I am wrong but didn't their entire Fleet (like hundreds/thousands of ships strong) get whelped by a handful of Jovian ships? The Battle of Vak'Atioth made the Rebellion easier as much of the Reclamation Fleet was wiped out by the Jovian motherships. That battle happened around the same time as the Gallente-Caldari War.
Ah this is a common misconception.
The Amarr deployed 200 ships against the Jove at Vak Atioth, less than 25% of their military might. Similarly less than a quarter of their fleet based might was deployed by Empress Sarum against the Elder Fleet which was decimated.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
10052
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:21:00 -
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Why are the Minmatar allied with the Gallente?
Well. Where did the Elder Fleet come from? The Federation paid for it. The Gallenteans also offered a great deal of support for the Rebellion, which directly led to 2/3rds of the Minmatar population being freed. Would you be so quick to forget that level of support for your own people?
Oh, you just want another ally so the Federation stops trashing all your ground forces. Well, carry on then. It's not going to happen.
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Sergamon Draco
Rautaleijona Top Men.
321
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:22:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Fraceska wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Its because the Gallente are using the Minnies like puppets, pulling their strings to their own advantage Slavery under another name really, the Minnies should just revolt again The Minmater are our closest allies. About a quarter of their population lives within our space fleeing the slavery from the Amarr. Their Republic is a prime example of what a state can become. We will continue to aid them and ensure the Amarr can never again attempt such a conquest. Its a real shame that your "closest allies" still face discrimination with such a sizable population in your space I remember the noise raised over a Minnie student defending himself after being assaulted by some Gallente students and being arrested for it Truly you Gallente are a shining example of personal freedoms and liberty for prosecuting a young man for defending himself against a group of people who wished him bodily harm I would say that I hate to see how you treat those you dont consider allies but as a Caldari I have more than enough first hand experience with that Also stop sending guys to fight me, if I add more notches to my rail rifle I might end up hacking the thing to bits Didn`t that student freed all the charges,i want to see that day when gallente do the same in your "loved" state and get free of all charges
Fck the kdr,i`m going in
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Fraceska
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
455
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:23:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:You know what interests me also.... What the hell is going on back in Sol and back on Earth while all of these millennia have passed!?
Is there anything in CCP lore that talks about the original Humans? I know that they wanted to expand because they were using up resources but one would assume they pulled through. That is another cool tangent to explore.
Jove/Sleeper, Talocan, Yan Jung and the Takmahl and then add in Enheduanni (the human faction even the Jove fear) and then times that all by a thousand. Terran technology had no reset like many of the races of New Eden. The four ancient ones plus the Enheduanni had almost no lapse in technology. |
Fraceska
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
455
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:25:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Ah this is a common misconception.
The Amarr deployed 200 ships against the Jove at Vak Atioth, less than 25% of their military might. Similarly less than a quarter of their fleet based might was deployed by Empress Sarum against the Elder Fleet which was decimated.
Of that I do not dispute, but the fleet they lost was the Reclamation fleet not their full military might which at the time still surpassed the Gallente. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2560
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:28:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Fraceska wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Its because the Gallente are using the Minnies like puppets, pulling their strings to their own advantage Slavery under another name really, the Minnies should just revolt again The Minmater are our closest allies. About a quarter of their population lives within our space fleeing the slavery from the Amarr. Their Republic is a prime example of what a state can become. We will continue to aid them and ensure the Amarr can never again attempt such a conquest. Its a real shame that your "closest allies" still face discrimination with such a sizable population in your space I remember the noise raised over a Minnie student defending himself after being assaulted by some Gallente students and being arrested for it Truly you Gallente are a shining example of personal freedoms and liberty for prosecuting a young man for defending himself against a group of people who wished him bodily harm I would say that I hate to see how you treat those you dont consider allies but as a Caldari I have more than enough first hand experience with that Also stop sending guys to fight me, if I add more notches to my rail rifle I might end up hacking the thing to bits Didn`t that student freed all the charges,i want to see that day when gallente do the same in your "loved" state and get free of all charges
What you are saying amounts to "Sure we violated his freedoms in blatant contradiction to the ethos we spout but its ok because we let him go in the end" Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds
I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack!
In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
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Fraceska
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
456
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:32:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:What you are saying amounts to "Sure we violated his freedoms in blatant contradiction to the ethos we spout but its ok because we let him go in the end" Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds
In the Federation at least he got that trial. And in the end cooler heads and the right ones prevailed. Sometimes there are abuses we are all after all Human. Yet we must continually strive to work on our Democratic Republic least we become like the Amarr or Caldari were the youth wouldn't have even been given a trial. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
10052
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:33:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote: Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds
Judging by how utterly the Caldari are being dominated in the warzone at present, I should think the Caldari would be the ones torn to shreds.
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Sarus Rambo
Direct Action Resources
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:38:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote:Sarus Rambo wrote:Fraceska wrote:We were so willing to stop the 100 year war when we discovered the Amarr which were by far the larger threat than the Caldari State. Your morality and wanting to live like Caldari in support of an empire that enslaved entire civilizations for your own greedy empire. Just going to show you how "moral" you can be. How is slavery fitting into your meritocracy, bunch of hypocrites. It would have been better if you staid with the Federation. You should look more into what Gallante have really done. Gallante preach morality but do not necessarily practice it. They secretly practice unmoral tactics, oppression, and corruption. The Caldari personify strength and unity, capitalism and strength. The strong rise and the weak fall. They don't preach morality so they aren't limited by it. They only preach the Darwinist vision of bettering themselves and by extension their people. Through the fire and flames motha f---a. So your "loved" faction don`t have/practice unmoral tactics, oppression, and corruption?
We never preach against it so we aren't dirty hypocrites when we oppress and conquer. We also believe the good of the many outweighs the good of the few. Spock would be Caldari. |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2560
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:39:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:Delta 749 wrote:What you are saying amounts to "Sure we violated his freedoms in blatant contradiction to the ethos we spout but its ok because we let him go in the end" Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds In the Federation at least he got that trial. And in the end cooler heads and the right ones prevailed. Sometimes there are abuses we are all after all Human. Yet we must continually strive to work on our Democratic Republic least we become like the Amarr or Caldari were the youth wouldn't have even been given a trial.
You understand how this sounds like you diverting the issue and trying to cover it up by speaking of the grand vision Hell, the argument could be made that with a few words swapped around your reply could be read as an Amarr defending the empires actions which Im sure you would rally against no?
I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack!
In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
2560
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:40:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Delta 749 wrote: Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds
Judging by how utterly the Caldari are being dominated in the warzone at present, I should think the Caldari would be the ones torn to shreds.
And who took back Caldari Prime even with the deck stacked against them (and we may as well acknowledge there were shenanigans happening space side from the devs to tip the scales towards the G's)
I'll start my own war, with hookers, and blackjack!
In fact forget the war and the blackjack.
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Sergamon Draco
Rautaleijona Top Men.
321
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:45:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Fraceska wrote:Delta 749 wrote:Its because the Gallente are using the Minnies like puppets, pulling their strings to their own advantage Slavery under another name really, the Minnies should just revolt again The Minmater are our closest allies. About a quarter of their population lives within our space fleeing the slavery from the Amarr. Their Republic is a prime example of what a state can become. We will continue to aid them and ensure the Amarr can never again attempt such a conquest. Its a real shame that your "closest allies" still face discrimination with such a sizable population in your space I remember the noise raised over a Minnie student defending himself after being assaulted by some Gallente students and being arrested for it Truly you Gallente are a shining example of personal freedoms and liberty for prosecuting a young man for defending himself against a group of people who wished him bodily harm I would say that I hate to see how you treat those you dont consider allies but as a Caldari I have more than enough first hand experience with that Also stop sending guys to fight me, if I add more notches to my rail rifle I might end up hacking the thing to bits Didn`t that student freed all the charges,i want to see that day when gallente do the same in your "loved" state and get free of all charges What you are saying amounts to "Sure we violated his freedoms in blatant contradiction to the ethos we spout but its ok because we let him go in the end" Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds The caldaris is allways welcome to try me out
Fck the kdr,i`m going in
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:49:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Delta 749 wrote: Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds
Judging by how utterly the Caldari are being dominated in the warzone at present, I should think the Caldari would be the ones torn to shreds.
That's because all of these mercs keep fighting for the easy mode factions.
Humm maybe I should start a Caldari Loyalist channel and start fighting for the Caldari proper and stop being a back bencher. The problem is I am an all rounder. I want and like all of the tech available. I was the same way in eve.
Archon and Thanatos really outshine the Caldari Chimera. Same goes for all of the Cap ships unfortunately.
Don't worry guys, shield has been UP in EVE for as long as I have known about CCP. (At least in eve on the capital side for sure)
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:52:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote:The caldaris is allways welcome to try me out
Quiet heathen. The day you actually have something of value to discuss regarding the cultures of those people outside your federation will signal the end times....
Just sit down please, you self inflating bravado is not of value here.
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Sergamon Draco
Rautaleijona Top Men.
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:56:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote:The caldaris is allways welcome to try me out Quiet heathen. The day you actually have something of value to discuss regarding the cultures of those people outside your federation will signal the end times.... Just sit down please, you self inflating bravado is not of value here. UUUH did i hit soft spot and rock "unshakable"ammarian
Fck the kdr,i`m going in
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Vordred Knight
Endless Hatred Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2014.02.25 19:57:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote:The caldaris is allways welcome to try me out Quiet heathen. The day you actually have something of value to discuss regarding the cultures of those people outside your federation will signal the end times.... Just sit down please, you self inflating bravado is not of value here.
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Pvt Numnutz
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:00:00 -
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The caldari haven't really been fighting the minnies. Mens rappola did supply them with the anti amarr slave drug. The caldari mostly has to find an ally against the much larger federation, especially after the gal and min became close. The amarr have also fought the gallente, I forget which prince it was that attacked them but they did. However things are crazy in new eden right now, there is in fighting in the state, change of leadership in the minmatar, the gallente are always in chaos, and the amarr have suffered a series of set backs. A joint minmatar gallente and caldari fleet attacked an amarrian fleet together. It is true that amarr is the greatest threat to humanity, I'm not sure if the old alliances will hold. The relationship between the minmatar and the gallente is strained to say the least, and the state may find its self free of tibis heth. Its going to be very interesting. |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:02:00 -
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Sergamon Draco wrote:True Adamance wrote:Sergamon Draco wrote:The caldaris is allways welcome to try me out Quiet heathen. The day you actually have something of value to discuss regarding the cultures of those people outside your federation will signal the end times.... Just sit down please, you self inflating bravado is not of value here. UUUH did i hit soft spot and rock "unshakable"ammarian
No but I appreciate intelligent and scholarly conversation when engaging in cultural discourse.
Your...."knowledge" is somewhat lacking.....even in regards to your own people.......
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:03:00 -
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Pvt Numnutz wrote: It is true that amarr is the greatest threat to humanity,
You've said this before but what makes you think that?
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CommanderBolt
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:07:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote: It is true that amarr is the greatest threat to humanity, You've said this before but what makes you think that?
It is the truth Adamance! Though you religious nuts will spin it as "The divine will of god". We Caldari are smart enough to not believe that.
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:11:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:True Adamance wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote: It is true that amarr is the greatest threat to humanity, You've said this before but what makes you think that? It is the truth Adamance! Though you religious nuts will spin it as "The divine will of god". We Caldari are smart enough to not believe that.
And yet your entire economy would have fallen apart without the money we lent you, and the Gallente overrunning your defences.
We don't seek conquest, simply unity of all peoples. And end to fighting, and a time of mankinds rule over everything beneath the heavens.
I somewhat consider you all a minority of the mainstream Caldari who by far and away are more respectful, loyal, and noble than this rabble we have assembled here.
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Chuckles Brown
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:13:00 -
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Caldari goes where the most money is. The Amarr are the richest in the galaxy.
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Arx Ardashir
Imperium Aeternum
587
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:16:00 -
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Fraceska wrote:Their Republic is a prime example of what a state can become. So you support the abolishment of a parliament and the institution of a dictatorship? I knew all that "freedom" stuff was hot air.
Hogwash and hot air, the Gallente watchwords!
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CommanderBolt
ACME SPECIAL FORCES
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:18:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:True Adamance wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote: It is true that amarr is the greatest threat to humanity, You've said this before but what makes you think that? It is the truth Adamance! Though you religious nuts will spin it as "The divine will of god". We Caldari are smart enough to not believe that. And yet your entire economy would have fallen apart without the money we lent you, and the Gallente overrunning your defences. We don't seek conquest, simply unity of all peoples. And end to fighting, and a time of mankinds rule over everything beneath the heavens. I somewhat consider you all a minority of the mainstream Caldari who by far and away are more respectful, loyal, and noble than this rabble we have assembled here.
Are you telling me the Caldari are indebted to the Amarr? Oh noesss :( I imagine the Imperial record keepers keep a very close eye on those files ;-)
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:21:00 -
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CommanderBolt wrote:True Adamance wrote:CommanderBolt wrote:True Adamance wrote:Pvt Numnutz wrote: It is true that amarr is the greatest threat to humanity, You've said this before but what makes you think that? It is the truth Adamance! Though you religious nuts will spin it as "The divine will of god". We Caldari are smart enough to not believe that. And yet your entire economy would have fallen apart without the money we lent you, and the Gallente overrunning your defences. We don't seek conquest, simply unity of all peoples. And end to fighting, and a time of mankinds rule over everything beneath the heavens. I somewhat consider you all a minority of the mainstream Caldari who by far and away are more respectful, loyal, and noble than this rabble we have assembled here. Are you telling me the Caldari are indebted to the Amarr? Oh noesss :( I imagine the Imperial record keepers keep a very close eye on those files ;-)
I wouldn't know but the Empress sent a massive economical renewal package to the Caldari during a time of economic strife, thus rejuvenating their economy as a sign of imperial friendship.
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:26:00 -
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Delta 749 wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Delta 749 wrote: Also implying that the same would happen in the state is laughable, if several Gallente cant handle a single Minnie how would a single G handle several Caldari without being torn to shreds
Judging by how utterly the Caldari are being dominated in the warzone at present, I should think the Caldari would be the ones torn to shreds. And who took back Caldari Prime even with the deck stacked against them
The Gallente? Oh yes. Yes we did. We shot down your genocide machine even as it threatened to glass our people.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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