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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.25 20:53:00 -
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Gallente believe in total freedom.
Amarr believe that slavery helps people along the spiritual path.
Gallente naturally dislike Amarr.
Caldari dislike Gallente.
Makes sense Caldari ally themselves with Amarr. Enemy of my enemy is my friend.
The Caldari are probably on better terms with the Mins them you would think. Just the politics of alliances make it assumed that mins don't like Caldari, even though their likely neutral at the center.
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.25 21:32:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Meeko Fent wrote: Gallente believe in total freedom.
Amarr believe that slavery helps people along the spiritual path.
Gallente naturally dislike Amarr.
Caldari dislike Gallente.
Makes sense Caldari ally themselves with Amarr. Enemy of my enemy is my friend.
The Caldari are probably on better terms with the Mins them you would think. Just the politics of alliances make it assumed that mins don't like Caldari, even though their likely neutral at the center.
That's not what we believe at all...merely one small aspect of it. Slavery is merely a trial to see if one is worthy of becoming a part of the empire, during which time your receive an Amarrian education and spiritual repurposing. What the Amarr believe is the mankind needs to be unified so that they can rule over all things beneath the heavens. Thus mankind must be united under one people and one empire so that the dignity and divinity of God's destiny can be upheld. That's my simplified Amarr belief system ideas.
Slavery is the first step along the Amarrian spiritual ladder would be better to say, but it's a far bit easier for me to understand the way I described it.
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.25 21:34:00 -
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Sam Tektzby wrote:Meeko Fent wrote: Gallente believe in total freedom.
Amarr believe that slavery helps people along the spiritual path.
Gallente naturally dislike Amarr.
Caldari dislike Gallente.
Makes sense Caldari ally themselves with Amarr. Enemy of my enemy is my friend.
The Caldari are probably on better terms with the Mins them you would think. Just the politics of alliances make it assumed that mins don't like Caldari, even though their likely neutral at the center.
What is QUITE wierd, if galenteans believe in TOTAL freedom, why they tried to TAKE US OUR BELIVES and DESECREATED OUR MONUMENTS?! That includes the freedom to believe that ones belief is wrong.
There are extremists in every society.
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Meeko Fent
Kirkinen Risk Control Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.02.25 22:21:00 -
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Godin Thekiller wrote:lol, I find this thread to be a silly Caldari stunt to continue to try and make the Federation look bad, even though they started it. We just ended it. We just exercised our right to secede after you went batshit because we made frontier defenses and frontier militias.
Then you went bat **** about our secession, and started a war to bring us back under your green flag.
In the end, you kinda lost because we are still a sovereign state. We both just decided that thousands of lives were enough, and quit fighting.
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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2014.02.25 23:13:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:lol, I find this thread to be a silly Caldari stunt to continue to try and make the Federation look bad, even though they started it. We just ended it. We just exercised our right to secede after you went batshit because we made frontier defenses and frontier militias. Then you went bat **** about our secession, and started a war to bring us back under your green flag. In the end, you kinda lost because we are still a sovereign state. We both just decided that thousands of lives were enough, and quit fighting. We started a war? The very first lives lost were when you razed an entire city! Quit fighting? Why are you still throwing ship after ship at us? Committing titans, supercarriers, capital fleets, dreadnoughts? Terrorists blew up your underwater town, not Caldari Warships. Your line of thinking would be like "9/11 was caused by Iraqis. NUKE IRAQ."
And, You attacked Caldari Prime first. Was it your planet to police? No. But you decided to rally the troops, feed the horses, we're charging! And we retaliated for your troops "Unexpected" Arrival on our home planet.
If The Caldari Plopped Battalions of Peacekeepers on Gallente Prime, would you not rally the troops for a counteratack?
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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2014.02.25 23:26:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Meeko Fent wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:lol, I find this thread to be a silly Caldari stunt to continue to try and make the Federation look bad, even though they started it. We just ended it. We just exercised our right to secede after you went batshit because we made frontier defenses and frontier militias. Then you went bat **** about our secession, and started a war to bring us back under your green flag. In the end, you kinda lost because we are still a sovereign state. We both just decided that thousands of lives were enough, and quit fighting. We started a war? The very first lives lost were when you razed an entire city! Quit fighting? Why are you still throwing ship after ship at us? Committing titans, supercarriers, capital fleets, dreadnoughts? Terrorists blew up your underwater town, not Caldari Warships. Your line of thinking would be like "9/11 was caused by Iraqis. NUKE IRAQ." And, You attacked Caldari Prime first. Was it your planet to police? No. But you decided to rally the troops, feed the horses, we're charging! And we retaliated for your troops "Unexpected" Arrival on our home planet. If The Caldari Plopped Battalions of Peacekeepers on Gallente Prime, would you not rally the troops for a counteratack? Oh, I see, of course. 'Terrorists'. I suppose an entire city dying is alright then. Was it our planet to police? Perhaps not. Was Nouvelle Rouvenor yours to butcher? No. If we had razed an entire city over a trading dispute, would you just let it go? Yes. Terrorists. Extremists.
I'm not condoning what they did. I'm say that your blind finger pointing is blind and wrong.
WE Did nothing. Crazed lunes who were Caldari did.
Like I said. Should we blame the entirety of the Gallente for bombarding our home planet from space whilst large amounts of people were still on the planet?
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Meeko Fent
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Posted - 2014.02.26 04:48:00 -
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medomai grey wrote:Fraceska wrote:A society must exist with laws and guidelines. History as shown and still shows in the Amarr and Caldari states what happens when human aggression is allowed to run rampantly unchecked. Slavery of entire cultures. We knew what would happen the those Caldari not blessed to have parents in the highest positions to go to the right schools to make the right connections. You do not have a true meritocracy. Your elite wanted their own power to dictate to those beneath without elections or voices of their own. So before you call the kettle black look at your own pot. But my pot is chrome in color... no, it really is. Jokes aside, I'm going to assume you are addressing me because I replied to your post; you make it difficult to know who your addressing because you don't quote or name anyone. As for the comment you made quoted above, it has little context to the subject of our previous post. I was disgusted by how you could pick and choose history and neglect the rest of the events that surround it. Are you now trying to justify Gallente violence towards other races because they're different than you and don't share the same ideals as you? For your information the Amarr Empire, has the lowest crime rate in all of New Eden. And the Caldari posses Jita, the most prominent trade hub in New Eden. All fruits I'm sure of being evil, evil people. Evil is subjective.
Perhaps the best way to describe it is that Amarr and Caldari are very objectiveised.
Caldari With Profit, and Efficency, Amarr with Religion and Order.
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