Dude, anything except swarms and nades can wreck dropships. Which strangely enough kinda defeats the purpose of having a lock on weapon. Rail guns should NOT be able to 1-2 shot ANY ADS. 3 shot minimum.

Please read Posts properly before making mistakes like this. I clearly explained this. Also are you man enough to post again admitting you were mistaken? or will you just ignore this and keep posting never mentioning your error?

sure dropships may not be able to kill at the flight ceiling like Railgun tanks can in the redline but you can get from being actively engaged in a battle to the flight ceiling in a few seconds .. 1 hit from a FG .. back to the safety of the flight ceiling ..

Railguns can still hit you at the flight ceiling, and once you're en route to the flight ceiling, you've effectively been removed from the match. You can't even provide intel because nothing renders at that distance. Also, believe it or not, every so often you can get hit by the odd RDV that spawns towards the flight ceiling. While equally rare, it's also easier to get hit by stray null cannon missiles when you're floating around that high since it's hard to tell where exactly they're coming from depending on the angle of your camera.

The last two are certainly uncommon, but definitely not unheard of.

Dropships are pretty easy to take out if you have one other AV guy with you, and it's not impossible to take them out solo with a forge gun depending on the circumstance / pilot. While swarms definitely need a buff, they tend to kill dropships just from the knockback. If you aren't a pilot then you really don't understand just how much a random swarm missile can **** in your cereal.

Agreed, in fact, lately I have been having issues with swarm and forge combo. It is a very effective combo.

I got a boundless hmg fit that costs 175k. There isn't a damn thing I can do to hurt your dropship but you can 3shot me two seconds after I spawn.

Then you either need to beef up ADSes to tank HP levels, or nerf the railgun to the point where tanks would run amuck in this game even more so.

Considering 25% of the playersbase recycles every week on this game, what are noobs supposed to do?
You don't have the SP to spec into FGs, so what other options are there?

Tanks are the only acceptable AV in this game that everyone can use.

Considering 25% of the playersbase recycles every week on this game, what are noobs supposed to do?
You don't have the SP to spec into FGs, so what other options are there?

Tanks are the only acceptable AV in this game that everyone can use.

Anyone can pick up a MLT forge gun and MLT heavy along with a railgun LAV

They certainly won't do much good on their own, but if they have a couple of friends with them doing similar, they can put the heat on a dropship as well.

If you just give every noob an I win button against fully spec'd vehicles, then what exactly is the point of fully specing into vehicles, or even AV for that matter? Swarms need a buff and we need some more AV options for sure, but rewarding talentless players for running glass cannon fits in the safety of their redline doesn't do anything for the health of the game.

I said AV, not feather throwers.
If 6 people need to use their MLT issued AV to combat 1 ADS, that's OP to heck. And to be honest, I don't think 6 people running MLT AV could destroy an ADS; maybe just make it go away for a minute. Now, if you were a new player, would you stick around for that?

Speaking from a tanks stand point, I don't even use hardeners against AV. Most of my tanks don't even have Hardeners equipped, as AV is that useless. The only thing that's stopping me is a skilled Particle Cannon user with double mods.

And my tank is far easier to hit with AV than an ADS.

If 6 people need to use their MLT issued AV to combat 1 ADS, that's OP to heck.

One forge is more of an annoyance than a mortal threat for a well built and piloted DS. And if you're tying up two or three opposition players you're doing a great job for the team, even if you're spending most of your time near the flight ceiling. Also there's basically no danger to you when you're recovering at a high altitude, whereas the FGers are sitting ducks for any red that comes their way.

Not saying DSes are OP, just that, as Chuckles said, the large rail is needed as a hard counter.

Railguns can still hit you at the flight ceiling, and once you're en route to the flight ceiling, you've effectively been removed from the match. You can't even provide intel because nothing renders at that distance. Also, believe it or not, every so often you can get hit by the odd RDV that spawns towards the flight ceiling. While equally rare, it's also easier to get hit by stray null cannon missiles when you're floating around that high since it's hard to tell where exactly they're coming from depending on the angle of your camera.

The last two are certainly uncommon, but definitely not unheard of.

Dropships are pretty easy to take out if you have one other AV guy with you, and it's not impossible to take them out solo with a forge gun depending on the circumstance / pilot. While swarms definitely need a buff, they tend to kill dropships just from the knockback. If you aren't a pilot then you really don't understand just how much a random swarm missile can **** in your cereal.