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Chuckles Brown wrote:

DUST Fiend wrote:

Chuckles Brown wrote:

Considering 25% of the playersbase recycles every week on this game, what are noobs supposed to do?
You don't have the SP to spec into FGs, so what other options are there?

Tanks are the only acceptable AV in this game that everyone can use.

Anyone can pick up a MLT forge gun and MLT heavy along with a railgun LAV

They certainly won't do much good on their own, but if they have a couple of friends with them doing similar, they can put the heat on a dropship as well.

If you just give every noob an I win button against fully spec'd vehicles, then what exactly is the point of fully specing into vehicles, or even AV for that matter? Swarms need a buff and we need some more AV options for sure, but rewarding talentless players for running glass cannon fits in the safety of their redline doesn't do anything for the health of the game.

I said AV, not feather throwers.
If 6 people need to use their MLT issued AV to combat 1 ADS, that's OP to heck. And to be honest, I don't think 6 people running MLT AV could destroy an ADS; maybe just make it go away for a minute. Now, if you were a new player, would you stick around for that?

Speaking from a tanks stand point, I don't even use hardeners against AV. Most of my tanks don't even have Hardeners equipped, as AV is that useless. The only thing that's stopping me is a skilled Particle Cannon user with double mods.

And my tank is far easier to hit with AV than an ADS.


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Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries 780	Posted - 2014.02.20 20:58:00 - [1] - Quote Typical infantry assessment. There are a host of weapons that can shoot down a dropship. Even a plasma cannon, buy av thinks the only counter to a dropship should be a bs OHK. I'm waiting for av to figure out how to effectively destroy a dropship, but that would mean they have to actually think how dropships operate GASP
Pvt Numnutz Black Phoenix Mercenaries 811	Posted - 2014.02.23 10:28:00 - [2] - Quote Chuckles Brown wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Chuckles Brown wrote: Considering 25% of the playersbase recycles every week on this game, what are noobs supposed to do? You don't have the SP to spec into FGs, so what other options are there? Tanks are the only acceptable AV in this game that everyone can use. Anyone can pick up a MLT forge gun and MLT heavy along with a railgun LAV They certainly won't do much good on their own, but if they have a couple of friends with them doing similar, they can put the heat on a dropship as well. If you just give every noob an I win button against fully spec'd vehicles, then what exactly is the point of fully specing into vehicles, or even AV for that matter? Swarms need a buff and we need some more AV options for sure, but rewarding talentless players for running glass cannon fits in the safety of their redline doesn't do anything for the health of the game. I said AV, not feather throwers. If 6 people need to use their MLT issued AV to combat 1 ADS, that's OP to heck. And to be honest, I don't think 6 people running MLT AV could destroy an ADS; maybe just make it go away for a minute. Now, if you were a new player, would you stick around for that? Speaking from a tanks stand point, I don't even use hardeners against AV. Most of my tanks don't even have Hardeners equipped, as AV is that useless. The only thing that's stopping me is a skilled Particle Cannon user with double mods. And my tank is far easier to hit with AV than an ADS. Why would that be op? 6 guys using mlt swarms against a proto fit dropship, or 3 guys using adv or 2 guys using proto. Seems balanced to me. I saw an assault dropship get shot down my a mlt swarm today, it can happen, and would happen a lot more if av players got their thumbs out of their asses and figured out when a dropship is vulnerable. Tanks are incredibly op, and yes right now the only counter to well fit tanks are glass cannon tanks and skilled forge gunners. We aren't talking about tanks here, dropships aren't tanked nearly as much as a tank. They are quite fragile and get knocked about really easily. I like how you talk about tanks being incredibly easy, then say that the only thing that can counter it is a "skilled" partical rail. What skill is that? They can hold down the R1 button? If I get hit by a forge or rail I have 3 seconds or less to activate my mods whilst simultaneously dodging the kill the shot. There is more skill in that than your average rail tanker has period. Because like you said, the only mods they really have to use is damage mods. If I require skill to survive then av should require skill to shoot me down.