Judge Rhadamanthus
Amarr Templar One
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Posted - 2014.02.23 11:57:00 -
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Chuckles Brown wrote:If 6 people need to use their MLT issued AV to combat 1 ADS, that's OP to heck.
You need to look at actual numbers and evidence not on anecdotal reports of game issues. Models and game recordings in no way support your statement.
This is a model of damage in against a well fitted Incubus with max skills, some plate a hardener running and a scanner or AB fitted. In this model the hardener is running for the entire engagement.
Its a lot to take in but focus on the little chart on the bottom. The blue bar is the remaining health of the dropship after each hit with a MILITIA swarm. The red bar is the remaining health of the militia suited (some mil plate and exts fitted) swarm player.
As you see After the ADS hits Mr militia swarm once, he is still alive. It take two hits to kill him. Assume the ADS does not see him, or there are two swarmers, it does not matter. As you see Hit 5 will knock an ADS to 32% health. That's 5 hits with a free weapon to almost kill a top level ADS. Two swarm players with the weakest weapon can kill it in 5 hits.
Look up to row 27. Five proto volleys will kill it.
Now with boosters the ADS can last longer but that's maxing a fit. The model also allows two regen ticks between hits, so for the ADS this is a strong fit.
Some AV adjustment is needed. The tank models are ridiculous as are the Pythons when double hardened (against swarms). But we need to be careful of with the 20% amour bonus and fitting restrictions we break Gallente ships, and not just the ADS. The biggest issue seems (from models and in game footage) to be the hardeners some fits allow, although there is more to it than that.
Straight out buffs to swarms will break balance. A more deft touch is needed.
NB : this model uses a defence bias. THis means it calculates damage reduction based on the hit before damage bonus has been added. If effect this means it will show a slight increase in damage done by weapons over the reverse model. This model however does closely match in game recorded data.
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