I'm going to have to stop you there. My Incubus costs 375K ISK. A redline railgunner can use a fit ~70K ISK and three shot me before my Incubus can even turn properly. This is why railguns are unbalanced. Not the fact they can kill - but the kill they give is cheap and you feel cheated.

My favorite part about people who cry OP when it comes to ADS is when you suggest they fly themselves, and they clam up because they can't even get the thing off the ground, let alone rake in kill after kill while avoiding all manner of AV from enemy players to enemy null cannons, MCC missiles, MCCs themselves, RDVs, buildings, being flipped almost completely over by MLT swarms, etc etc etc.

Get on our level bro

I was unaware mlt shotguns could kill from 400 meters away while being impervious to counter attack

You sure enlightened me there.

I didn't know the sniper rifle could take out infantry and vehicles alike, and require an orbital or damage stacked railgun to counter.

Again, you enlighten me.

I didn't know the sniper rifle could take out infantry and vehicles alike, and require an orbital or damage stacked railgun to counter.

Again, you enlighten me.

Hardly, I've already stated that bad players who try to solo with swarm launchers can't kill us, and that Pythons have added defense in the fact that no AV does bonus damage to shields

But, that would require reading on your part, and you're just whining because you got raped by a good pilot.

I'm going to have to stop you there. My Incubus costs 375K ISK. A redline railgunner can use a fit ~70K ISK and three shot me before my Incubus can even turn properly. This is why railguns are unbalanced. Not the fact they can kill - but the kill they give is cheap and you feel cheated.

I got a boundless hmg fit that costs 175k. There isn't a damn thing I can do to hurt your dropship but you can 3shot me two seconds after I spawn.

That's because HMG isn't an AV weapon, would you try to take on a tank with your boundless? A dropship is not a dropsuit.

You're just trying to create a pointless argument because no one wants railguns removed, we want a fair fight on both ends.

Whine whine whine, that's all your thread is

Get gud

Railguns can still hit you at the flight ceiling, and once you're en route to the flight ceiling, you've effectively been removed from the match. You can't even provide intel because nothing renders at that distance. Also, believe it or not, every so often you can get hit by the odd RDV that spawns towards the flight ceiling. While equally rare, it's also easier to get hit by stray null cannon missiles when you're floating around that high since it's hard to tell where exactly they're coming from depending on the angle of your camera.

The last two are certainly uncommon, but definitely not unheard of.

Dropships are pretty easy to take out if you have one other AV guy with you, and it's not impossible to take them out solo with a forge gun depending on the circumstance / pilot. While swarms definitely need a buff, they tend to kill dropships just from the knockback. If you aren't a pilot then you really don't understand just how much a random swarm missile can **** in your cereal.