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Chuckles Brown 97	Posted - 2014.02.20 11:51:00 - [1] - Quote Yes, they take skill to fly and SP to build. However, if it wasn't for railguns; what would keep you guys in check? Shooting a ADS with a rail does take some small skill. ADSes are the most powerful thing in the game, so why complain? What is with certain players having a delusion that simply nothing should cause them a death? The Official alt of 8213 Do you pub, brah?
Chuckles Brown 102	Posted - 2014.02.20 17:28:00 - [2] - Quote Yes, I watched Judge's video. And it was articulated complaining. 1. He showed himself shooting at a dropship with a railgun, and failed. That proves it takes at least some practice. 2. Tanks sit in the redline because of the very slow tracking speed, turret speed, and poor turret angles. An ADS has the entire sky, a rail has <1% of it to shoot into. Even in Ambush a rail has to be far back as they can get to compete with an ADS. 3. ADS vs a Railgun Tank? ADS can destroy a tank better than anything in the game. XT-1s are crazy powerful. If it wasn't for the redline, that tank would be a coffin for for a ADS to nail shut. 4. ADSes are dangerous to your team, so they should be destroyed as a first priority. 5. Going back to my OP. If it wasn't for rails, what would stop a ADS from raining complete destruction in a match? In 1.7 I'm seeing ADSes go 30/40-0 in matches constantly. Their is ONE thing that counters your destruction capability and you complain?? 6. How many shots miss you and/or do avoid before you finally get shot down? Shooting an ADS that doesn't have a hardener, afterrburner, and is in sight of the <1% of the sky you can patrol is a narrow window to be killed. Perhaps become a better pilot? Judge's video also had flaws and misinformation, as it was just well structured b*tching and delusion. The Official alt of 8213 Do you pub, brah?
Chuckles Brown 102	Posted - 2014.02.20 17:36:00 - [3] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: I didn't know the sniper rifle could take out infantry and vehicles alike, and require an orbital or damage stacked railgun to counter. Again, you enlighten me. Sounds like you just described your ADS... SO, YOU AGREE WITH MY OP! Ha! The Official alt of 8213 Do you pub, brah?
Chuckles Brown 102	Posted - 2014.02.20 17:49:00 - [4] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Chuckles Brown wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: I didn't know the sniper rifle could take out infantry and vehicles alike, and require an orbital or damage stacked railgun to counter. Again, you enlighten me. Sounds like you just described your ADS... SO, YOU AGREE WITH MY OP! Ha! Hardly, I've already stated that bad players who try to solo with swarm launchers can't kill us, and that Pythons have added defense in the fact that no AV does bonus damage to shields But, that would require reading on your part, and you're just whining because you got raped by a good pilot. Didn't you post a video of you wrecking with an ADS? What is your KD and score with an ADS? Because I've yet to see you get shot down in game. Are you going broke flying DSes? I already stated piloting takes skills. But without rails what would stop you? The Official alt of 8213 Do you pub, brah?
Chuckles Brown 102	Posted - 2014.02.20 18:01:00 - [5] - Quote Because of angles and tracking a rail has to be far back. Redline or not, they are going to shoot you from 500m. Its nice that you bring up woulda, coulda, shoulda for AV, but until then; railguns are your only counter. Maybe take a day and redline rail DSes before you judge it? The Official alt of 8213 Do you pub, brah?
Chuckles Brown 102	Posted - 2014.02.21 09:16:00 - [6] - Quote Judge Rhadamanthus wrote: Chuckles Brown wrote: Yes, I watched Judge's video. And it was articulated complaining. 1. He showed himself shooting at a dropship with a railgun, and failed. That proves it takes at least some practice. . Please read Posts properly before making mistakes like this. I clearly explained this. Also are you man enough to post again admitting you were mistaken? or will you just ignore this and keep posting never mentioning your error? Answer these the best you can. Yes, I know you're an exceptionally good pilot, but since ADSes take a chunk of SP to build, most people by the time they get into ADSes are above average flyers. 1. How many ADSes do you lose in a week? 2. How many kills and vehicles destroys do you get in a week? (keep in mind the average KDR in this game is 1.00) 3. When you do lose a ADS, what is the main culprit? 4. What player used method destroys your ADSes the most? I'm simply stating that ADSes are better than tanks (but take more skill to operate) because they truly have very few counters that are within a reasonable balance. If it takes 3 players to destroy a tank (as the WP reward would suggest), should it take 3 players to kill 1 ADS, or 1? FGs are the only Personal AV that can combat a ADS, and quite frankly its not easy taking down a DS w/ a FG. Yes, I know the rendering issue of FGers being pixels, but the fastest a FG can fire is 2.25s per shot, which good luck trying to time that shot to do contact, and even better luck doing 2-3x in a row. A Regular FG is the best way to go, as you can hold the charge and line up the shot. But that's 3s in between shots, plenty of time for you to activate a hardener, boosters, afterburner, etc. Sorry, but the practical in-game evidence confirms that ADSes rule in this game. They are out scoring HAVs because they have the advantage of firing down on their opponent. Without railguns, what would seriously stop you? FGs? You fly faster than they can run and have unlimited stamina to get away. They don't. The fact that the rails are usually in the redline is more about practicality. A rail has a very limited and slow arc they can actually shoot into, so they need to be as far back as the can so there arc angle widens. Why not take a week and bust out the FG or railgun and try duck hunting? If you land more than 10% of the shots you take, you're doing phenomenal. I'm a tank pilot, and I know where all the hot railgun spots are, and I keep them in mind when I'm tanking so as to not get popped. Maybe you should keep in mind where they are too? Because if that tanks comes out of their redline, you have every advantage over it, especially if you equipped XT-1s. The Official alt of 8213 Do you pub, brah?
Chuckles Brown 109	Posted - 2014.02.21 18:37:00 - [7] - Quote So, is anyone going to answer the question? If there were no railguns what would stop ADSes? Funny how HAVs are deemed OP but ADSes are apparently complete death traps incapable of accomplishing much and get shot down just by looking at them... People in this thread are defending ADSes but in other threads talk about how to good tanks are. I guess everything is OP until it comes to whatever you use........ The Official alt of 8213 Do you pub, brah?
Chuckles Brown 110	Posted - 2014.02.21 18:53:00 - [8] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Chuckles Brown wrote: So, is anyone going to answer the question? If there were no railguns what would stop ADSes? You're just trying to create a pointless argument because no one wants railguns removed, we want a fair fight on both ends. Whine whine whine, that's all your thread is Get gud Wow. Still didn't answer the question. Now run along and talk about how unbalanced tanks are to AV in other threads. Hypocrisy much? The Official alt of 8213 Do you pub, brah?
Chuckles Brown 110	Posted - 2014.02.21 20:51:00 - [9] - Quote Aero Yassavi wrote: Serimos Haeraven wrote: See, here's the real problem with your reasoning in this entire post Chuckles: "Why not take a week and bust out the FG or railgun and try duck hunting? If you land more than 10% of the shots you take, you're doing phenomenal. I'm a tank pilot" You're a tank pilot! I've always found the phrase "tank pilot" or "HAV pilot" to be hilarious. Tankers want to feel more special I guess You are not pilots, you are driver or operators, take your pick P.S. You can still use pilot suits of course Pilot suit? You're living in the past maaaaaaan... PDSes are never getting into this game. The Official alt of 8213 Do you pub, brah?
Chuckles Brown 112	Posted - 2014.02.22 08:10:00 - [10] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Chuckles Brown wrote: DUST Fiend wrote: Chuckles Brown wrote: So, is anyone going to answer the question? If there were no railguns what would stop ADSes? You're just trying to create a pointless argument because no one wants railguns removed, we want a fair fight on both ends. Whine whine whine, that's all your thread is Get gud Wow. Still didn't answer the question. Now run along and talk about how unbalanced tanks are to AV in other threads. Hypocrisy much? You literally have no idea what you're talking about. Please, carry on, this is better than pay per view. I find it funny, that you spout word-for-word the same things crazies like spkrforthedead says but apply it to your ADS. Does one take more skill than the other, of course. But just because it takes more skill to learn doesn't mean it should be grossly advantageous. The Official alt of 8213 Do you pub, brah?

Chuckles Brown 114	Posted - 2014.02.22 11:03:00 - [11] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Chuckles Brown wrote: Yes, they take skill to fly and SP to build. However, if it wasn't for railguns; what would keep you guys in check? Shooting a ADS with a rail does take some small skill. ADSes are the most powerful thing in the game, so why complain? What is with certain players having a delusion that simply nothing should cause them a death? Lol I shoot them while moving. I also shoot them down with a forge gun. yeah yeah yeah... you say you do a lot of things The Official alt of 8213 Do you pub, brah?
Chuckles Brown 127	Posted - 2014.02.23 02:52:00 - [12] - Quote T8R Raid wrote: Dude, anything except swarms and nades can wreck dropships. Which strangely enough kinda defeats the purpose of having a lock on weapon. Rail guns should NOT be able to 1-2 shot ANY ADS. 3 shot minimum. Then you either need to beef up ADSes to tank HP levels, or nerf the railgun to the point where tanks would run amuck in this game even more so. The Official alt of 8213 Do you pub, brah?
Chuckles Brown 127	Posted - 2014.02.23 05:19:00 - [13] - Quote Considering 25% of the playersbase recycles every week on this game, what are noobs supposed to do? You don't have the SP to spec into FGs, so what other options are there? Tanks are the only acceptable AV in this game that everyone can use. The Official alt of 8213 Do you pub, brah?
Chuckles Brown 129	Posted - 2014.02.23 10:01:00 - [14] - Quote DUST Fiend wrote: Chuckles Brown wrote: Considering 25% of the playersbase recycles every week on this game, what are noobs supposed to do? You don't have the SP to spec into FGs, so what other options are there? Tanks are the only acceptable AV in this game that everyone can use. Anyone can pick up a MLT forge gun and MLT heavy along with a railgun LAV They certainly won't do much good on their own, but if they have a couple of friends with them doing similar, they can put the heat on a dropship as well. If you just give every noob an I win button against fully spec'd vehicles, then what exactly is the point of fully specing into vehicles, or even AV for that matter? Swarms need a buff and we need some more AV options for sure, but rewarding talentless players for running glass cannon fits in the safety of their redline doesn't do anything for the health of the game. I said AV, not feather throwers. If 6 people need to use their MLT issued AV to combat 1 ADS, that's OP to heck. And to be honest, I don't think 6 people running MLT AV could destroy an ADS; maybe just make it go away for a minute. Speaking from a tanks stand point, I don't even use hardeners against AV. Most of my tanks don't even have Hardeners equipped, as AV is that useless. The only thing that's stopping me is a skilled Particle Cannon user with double mods. And my tank is far easier to hit with AV than an ADS. The Official alt of 8213 Do you pub, brah?

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