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Jacques Cayton II
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:20:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:Right! Time for a quick insanity test!
REZULTZ:
Denak: Seems pretty sane to me.
Jacques: Slight tenancy of sadism.
Ermac: Hallucinates?
Steady: As the GM, you are barking mad. By law.
True: Can't see anything.
Heathen: I need to find something on this guy.
Jaysyn: Nuthin' here.
Hawkeye: Displays at least some general apathy towards life. What do you mean I cannot see anything?
he means he doesnt see you insane
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steadyhand amarr
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:21:00 -
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lol. right im sleeping now as i need to recover finish up as i think a few you still need one more post or something.....if not enjoy the night off >.< :P
fun fact: steadys a first gen and im fairly sure some of the stuff he did during the cursade...left an impression on True under what holy fury is. (i think i went 35 kills or something one game when i was on the phone, so in character all true would have seen is steady wiping out the field while having a casual chat someone :P) steady can be oddly broken and scary when his buttions are pushed
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:22:00 -
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Jacques Cayton II wrote:True Adamance wrote:Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:Right! Time for a quick insanity test!
REZULTZ:
Denak: Seems pretty sane to me.
Jacques: Slight tenancy of sadism.
Ermac: Hallucinates?
Steady: As the GM, you are barking mad. By law.
True: Can't see anything.
Heathen: I need to find something on this guy.
Jaysyn: Nuthin' here.
Hawkeye: Displays at least some general apathy towards life. What do you mean I cannot see anything? he means he doesnt see you insane
True isn't. 3rd Generation Amarrian clones were designed with stability in mind to prevent what happened to the 1st gen clones.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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steadyhand amarr
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:24:00 -
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/whisles harmless not understanding what True could possable be on about i mean i turned out ok. i mean rangnum was nuts before he was given an implant. then again he might be 2nd gen not first
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Ermac Vesely
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:31:00 -
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hallucinations are pretty common when you are bleeding out and are under high stress.
But yeah he has some weak points in his sanity there is a reason why he is visiting a shrink |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:33:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:/whisles harmless not understanding what True could possable be on about i mean i turned out ok. i mean rangnum was nuts before he was given an implant. then again he might be 2nd gen not first
Regyum's a crazy **** and a borderline heretic.
Not that he isn't good at what he does.
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Hawk-eye Occultus
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:43:00 -
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When did the generations start and end relative to the game?
Like, are people from open beta gen 2? closed being gen 1.
What gen are we currently in?
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steadyhand amarr
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:45:00 -
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i was say regyum needs a few lessions on the book of faith but iv worked with him a lot he is NUTS and does a few things that annoy me but he is loyal to the empire and with gudiance could be a very strong asset. its getting him to pay attention to core rules of the faith which will be a plain
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
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steadyhand amarr
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:48:00 -
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Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:When did the generations start and end relative to the game?
Like, are people from open beta gen 2? closed being gen 1.
What gen are we currently in?
da very very very first testers all 1st gen (you needed an active eve account just to stand a chance)
the first build rebuild called uprising lead to the 2nd gen around the same time the merc pack was introduced (heths crackdown)
third gen where open beta peeps i believe ( just before caldri prime )
and we are currently on fourth about to hit 5th (present day)
true does that match up to you i cant find iron wolfs post on it
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Jacques Cayton II
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:51:00 -
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by this jacques is 2nd gen
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:52:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:i was say regyum needs a few lessions on the book of faith but iv worked with him a lot he is NUTS and does a few things that annoy me but he is loyal to the empire and with gudiance could be a very strong asset. its getting him to pay attention to core rules of the faith which will be a plain
The glory of the Faith is inherent to us all, as every True son or daughter of Athra should know.
"So instructed the Queen to her champion,
GÇÿBeware the righteous who seek truth in spirit alone;
The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt;
Thus fools go forth to spread false word,
Great misery follows those who heed what only the weak have heard.
Heed me champion, for only you shall know;
Within the blue ring of fire lies the final key of revelation.
Find this ring, my champion, and both mind and spirit shall be strong once more.GÇÖ"
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21
Remind him of his duty. House Dei is not where his loyalties should lie.
"Just know that though our enemies may only #YOLO, through God's grace we can #YOLF at his side." - Disciple of Kesha
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Ermac Vesely
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:53:00 -
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So that means that im not too far off from my theory that the open beta testers chars where the testers for the 3rd gen implant prototypes (till caldari prime where they introduced the final product).
Which makes Ermac an early 3rd gen merc. |
True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:54:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:When did the generations start and end relative to the game?
Like, are people from open beta gen 2? closed being gen 1.
What gen are we currently in? da very very very first testers all 1st gen (you needed an active eve account just to stand a chance) the first build rebuild called uprising lead to the 2nd gen around the same time the merc pack was introduced (heths crackdown) third gen where open beta peeps i believe ( just before caldri prime ) and we are currently on fourth about to hit 5th (present day) true does that match up to you i cant find iron wolfs post on it
This is known.
I am a Third Gen when the Chromosome Cloning tech was available..... I could have been one sooner....but my days as an Aspirant tempered my haste to ascend to the title of Templar, or in my Order of Temple Knights, Tiro.
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steadyhand amarr
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:55:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:i was say regyum needs a few lessions on the book of faith but iv worked with him a lot he is NUTS and does a few things that annoy me but he is loyal to the empire and with gudiance could be a very strong asset. its getting him to pay attention to core rules of the faith which will be a plain The glory of the Faith is inherent to us all, as every True son or daughter of Athra should know. "So instructed the Queen to her champion,
GÇÿBeware the righteous who seek truth in spirit alone;
The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt;
Thus fools go forth to spread false word,
Great misery follows those who heed what only the weak have heard.
Heed me champion, for only you shall know;
Within the blue ring of fire lies the final key of revelation.
Find this ring, my champion, and both mind and spirit shall be strong once more.GÇÖ"
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21
Remind him of his duty. House Dei is not where his loyalties should lie.
i cut myself off from the imperfects, i only run into him now and then, he knows the deal if he goes agenst the empire, my skills match his own these days so if he gets out line it will be dealt with
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:58:00 -
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steadyhand amarr wrote:True Adamance wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:i was say regyum needs a few lessions on the book of faith but iv worked with him a lot he is NUTS and does a few things that annoy me but he is loyal to the empire and with gudiance could be a very strong asset. its getting him to pay attention to core rules of the faith which will be a plain The glory of the Faith is inherent to us all, as every True son or daughter of Athra should know. "So instructed the Queen to her champion,
GÇÿBeware the righteous who seek truth in spirit alone;
The weak of mind are quick to judge with slightest tempt;
Thus fools go forth to spread false word,
Great misery follows those who heed what only the weak have heard.
Heed me champion, for only you shall know;
Within the blue ring of fire lies the final key of revelation.
Find this ring, my champion, and both mind and spirit shall be strong once more.GÇÖ"
- The Scriptures, Book of Trials 2:13 - 2:21
Remind him of his duty. House Dei is not where his loyalties should lie. i cut myself off from the imperfects, i only run into him now and then, he knows the deal if he goes agenst the empire, my skills match his own these days so if he gets out line it will be dealt with edit: MAN that means steady is really old as a clone compaired to you, im going to have to explore that with your character at some point, steadys doesnt have any friends so it would be interesting :)
True is a 10 month old char, I've been playing since before CAL PRIME though.
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Posted - 2014.02.20 23:59:00 -
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Ermac Vesely wrote:So that means that im not too far off from my theory that the open beta testers chars where the testers for the 3rd gen implant prototypes (till caldari prime where they introduced the final product).
Which makes Ermac an early 3rd gen merc.
this would be correct.
1st implant: WWWWAAYYYYYY SSSCCRREEWWW
2nd implant: clean but imperfect a lot if all clones needed memory wipes to remove "issues"
3rd: sorted and effective but skill cap was introduced to stop booster abuse and clones going 514.
4th tech is now being mass produced and handed out like candy
edit: aaaahhhh right im with ya now true
"i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk"
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Hawk-eye Occultus
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
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Posted - 2014.02.21 00:03:00 -
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I'm very early 3rd gen then. Like, as soon is they started sticking those things in to peep's heads, I was there.
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Ermac Vesely
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.02.21 00:11:00 -
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How are they stopping them from going 514? And what does "514" exactly mean? Is it just going nuts or is it a variation of an existing psychological sickness? |
Hawk-eye Occultus
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Posted - 2014.02.21 00:37:00 -
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the whole "514" thing stems from the 1st gen; where they would hallucinate about that number for some reason, and often wrote it on the walls in blood.
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Jacques Cayton II
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Posted - 2014.02.21 00:39:00 -
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no read templar one it gives a good description of it still dont know how to explain it thoroughly
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Hawk-eye Occultus
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Posted - 2014.02.21 01:15:00 -
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There's a whole thread about it.
https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=109159
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Jacques Cayton II
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Posted - 2014.02.21 01:20:00 -
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thats wrong if im not mistaken it involves sleepers
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Hawk-eye Occultus
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Posted - 2014.02.21 01:24:00 -
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The first gen implants were harvested from sleeper sites, I think.
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Jacques Cayton II
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Posted - 2014.02.21 01:31:00 -
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yes i know but thats where going 514 comes from it originates from that what that post explains is ptsd in a way. 514 is not going battle crazy its more than that.
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Jacques Cayton II
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Posted - 2014.02.21 01:40:00 -
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Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:Right! Time for a quick insanity test!
REZULTZ:
Denak: Seems pretty sane to me.
Jacques: Slight tenancy of sadism.
Ermac: Hallucinates?
Steady: As the GM, you are barking mad. By law.
True: Can't see anything.
Heathen: I need to find something on this guy.
Jaysyn: Nuthin' here.
Hawkeye: Displays at least some general apathy towards life.
Aww come on he just has problems he's not that bad xD
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Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
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Posted - 2014.02.21 03:09:00 -
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Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:Right! Time for a quick insanity test!
REZULTZ:
Denak: Seems pretty sane to me.
Jacques: Slight tenancy of sadism.
Ermac: Hallucinates?
Steady: As the GM, you are barking mad. By law.
True: Can't see anything.
Heathen: I need to find something on this guy.
Jaysyn: Nuthin' here.
Hawkeye: Displays at least some general apathy towards life.
There is a lot to Denak he doesn't show to anyone, not even Kador, that's part of his personality. Everyone he doesn't trust gets to know about him only on a need-to-know basis, and even people who are closer to Denak know little about his past. What anyone knows about his past, is the fact that he ran away young, and has lived a criminal life ever since he was a teen while working for the Intaki Syndicate, and that his decision to become a clone soldier wasn't entirely his own.
This whole "secretive of the past due to traumas" thing may seem a like a clich+¬, which I do admit it can be. But Denak has done some effed up stuff, not always by choice, and he has been grown to be a killer for the majority of his life. He can be ruthless, uncaring and apathetic if the situation demands it.
He was betrayed by those he had considered close friends, which led to him being captured by the Federation and tortured for months. Then when he was forced to become a clone soldier in the threat of a life sentence on a prison colony, where he was pushed past the breaking point even more as part of his training. He has had his own share of voices talking to him, doubts about his own humanity and questioning if he is always in control of his own body.
Denak may seem sane and calm, but that is the exterior he keeps tightly in control. When he snaps, the floodgates open and he can do all sorts of effed up stuff. And it isn't that sadistic tortureous kind of snap, but more along the lines of pure rage and dispatching everything and anyone that stands in his way snap.
I could go on about this on hours, but I'm rambling too much. Point is Denak is a lot less sane then what he lets others see, as a result of decades of murder, pain, torture and betrayal. He is very slow to trust people, and any inquiries about his past are often replied with "None of your business". First gens like Steady may be more insane than Denak will ever be, but his insanity started long before clone soldiers even existed.
Mini-ramble finished, sorry.
On another topic, I do believe Denak is either late second gen or very early third gen, considering he joined the program over a year ago before Uprising launched. I've also been thinking of adding a Multiple-Personality Disorder kind of thing for Denak, but that seems a little silly and too clich+¬, I think.
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations
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Posted - 2014.02.21 05:40:00 -
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Nice dip into your character, Denak.
ps....my post is up. Nothing to crazy, just pushing things forward a bit.
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Ermac Vesely
Molon Labe.
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Posted - 2014.02.21 06:46:00 -
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I hope im not getting too edgy with Ermac having ptsd hallucinations, im trying to stay on what is known about it and how it works it's still hard to imagine how it messes up someone unless you experienced yourself.
Is "spec ops:the line" or "apocalypse now" a good way to somehow get a feeling of how ptsd works or do you guys have better material? |
Jaysyn Larrisen
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Posted - 2014.02.21 07:15:00 -
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PTSD can be pretty debilitating and often it reflects in the emotional stability, decision making, hyper-reactivty (not a good thing in combat), and many times there will be bouts of depression and emotional swings.
The flashbacks that are often attributed to PTSD can occur but are often triggered in more isolated settings and tend to be pretty tough on folks.
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Hawk-eye Occultus
Omega Elite Mercs INC.
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Posted - 2014.02.21 08:07:00 -
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Hawkeye often showed little care to those he was fighting against on regular contracts; but was unsure if it was because he was indifferent about life in general, or if he was acting safe in the knowledge that whoever ended up on the wrong side of hid gun would be back for more in minutes.
Seems that it's the former, rather than the latter.
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