You and your crew are notorious for stomping! GTFO.

Why the hate?

Conclusion:

Isk payout and perhaps even skillpoints should be affected by winning or losing a battle. This difference should be large enough to matter. At least a 3 to 1 difference. Hopefully this will lead to a mental shift of the general community giving us back more intense and fun battles, and that is the most important improvement of Dust IMO.

King my friend
There is players in your corp that has over one biljon isk.

Here is a sugestion for you

Lets have a full reset of isk and sp to level the play field.

I suggested a removal af isk if you loose a game I now understand that can never happen sence that will only let people that already are way ahaed get even more bling into there wallets while the new plate base is struggling.

If you realy want to do this game a fawor stop stomping take in noobs in your corp help them out insted of stomping them throw the grownd as you al are notorious 4

Best regards and with respect
A friend

Why don't you people try to better yourself?
Why don't you form up, wait for each other and try to blitz the point from various angles?
Are you really content with having an evasive doctrine vs any good team you play? Really?

Because of his first line on this thread....

"As I've said before, I'm so very tired of the constant stomping and can't really see any better way of upping the action"

Pot calling the kettle black me thinks.

Why the hate?

King my friend
There is players in your corp that has over one biljon isk.

Here is a sugestion for you

Lets have a full reset of isk and sp to level the play field.

I suggested a removal af isk if you loose a game I now understand that can never happen sence that will only let people that already are way ahaed get even more bling into there wallets while the new plate base is struggling.

If you realy want to do this game a fawor stop stomping , open your corp to them, help them out insted of stomping them throw the grownd as you al are notorious known 4

Best regards and with respect
A friend

Here we are actually doing an effort to reduse the stomp and by extension making it a more inclusive ga,e and you bring this up.
Do you expect us to merely give our clones away?

You and your crew are notorious for stomping! GTFO.

I think a lot of guys are too worried about loosing ISK and are unwilling to switch to cheaper fits to do battle and continue to improve their gun game. I'm not sure why as plenty of people out there run cheap fits often and do extremely well.... and then there is saving the KDR that you mentioned.
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Conclusion:

Isk payout and perhaps even skillpoints should be affected by winning or losing a battle. This difference should be large enough to matter. At least a 3 to 1 difference. Hopefully this will lead to a mental shift of the general community giving us back more intense and fun battles, and that is the most important improvement of Dust IMO.

Ok so you want help stop protostomping by making Protostomping more profitable, what a brilliant idea I wonder why no-one thought of that before.
The win loss ratio is fine already. Instead improve payout per warpoint.

So doing something no matter how futile rewards you.

Yeah...no. If it's a fair fight ill lose all the suits I need to to win, no question. When I'm carrying a team of randoms (and I ain't that good), I used to try to win, but losing 16 suits in a wholly futile effort is not fun for me, I don't have your billions of ill-gotten PC ISK, I can't afford to run proto (at all, much less 24/7), so that's not gonna happen. I could care less about my KDR but I'm not going broke in order to help the elite stomping corps have more fun at my expense.

How about you spread the wealth around and give the little guys a chance to enter PC or not get farmed in pubs all day long before you get on your damn high horse and lecture the rest of us on our poor attitude.

If winning gains 3x as much as losing the rich will keep getting richer and the economy will get more and more broken and player retention will be even worse than it is now.
You take away rewards for a loss and you destroy this game. Period.

King, I think what you're getting at here -and correct me if I'm wrong, but I did read all of that wal of text ;) - is "why don't scrubs use tactics and slowly scrub up to something better?"

And the answer, roughly speaking, is gear, skill points and mechanics. Especially from equipment. Especially from scanners. I play a lot of solo, in a slow suit that's **** at frontline assault. I will flank entire groups and drop uplinks, assault point, provide covering fire. And all of it is often for naught if I come up your kind of corp, or Dunas, etc etc.

Active scanners essentially killed tactics. Ambush? No. Flank? No. Stack the odds in your favour? They know. So no. Fit dampeners to get under them? Great, you just sacrificed hp to do that, hope you can melt that proto suits massive hp buffer with your advanced weapon before they turn around and melt you en masse!

It just feels very futile these days. Case in point; I came up against one of your guys a few nights ago, he was trying to redline my team in a dom and we had one spawn point out of the redline that I was defending furiously because Christ, I hate being redlined. He had full proto fit, including that bastard proto rr. I would be scanned, found, killed. Spawn. Rinse, repeat. I had no counter, except to run. Hated it. Multiple blues would assail him. He would take them. He was, in fairness,very good. But the difference in effectiveness that gear and skill points provide is exponential, not incremental, when compared to what a guy who can only fit standard can bring to the field. Non vets are just outclassed in every respect. Sometimes, it's just less stress to redline snipe. I wish this wasn't the case.

Tiercide for all things, damage reduction to weapons to tighten up TTK and some core mechanics need a solid kick up the arse. That's what we need to make people feel like they've always got a chance.

We don't have any PC districs and haven't had any except for a week long experiement. I dont sit on tons of isk because I've passively farmed them of PC. So there is no ill-gotten PC isk. Lets keep the facts straight.

CCP/Shanghai drastically reduced ISK payout sometime back.

Now it is quite possible to lose a bunch of ISK when getting stomped by King Bad Mouth and his Proto Horde. So, just Red Line snipe pub stompers and try to get them to lose Proto/Officer gear. What is wrong with that?

Until Dust514 has matchmaking all of this is a waste of time. There is no matchmaking beyond the battle academy and, to some extent, PC battles. So positioning himself as the reasonable one in this situation is actually a Troll. Something that is unwelcome down here in the dust.


And so it goes.

Fair enough, some of what I said admittedly is a little generalized and may not specifically apply to you, but I stand by my base argument that you are blaming the wrong people. The one group you should not implicate in one sided battles are the stompees.

Thats a good point actually. Changing payout will definately be a bonus for th dudes already winning most games....

A difference in skillpoint payout is probably better.

And for WP? I dunno. It will mostly lead to even more equipment spam and various circkles of WP boosting.

You and your crew are notorious for stomping! GTFO.