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Matticus Monk
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Posted - 2014.02.01 12:06:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:
Why don't you people try to better yourself?
Why don't you form up, wait for each other and try to blitz the point from various angles?
Are you really content with having an evasive doctrine vs any good team you play? Really?
I think a lot of guys are too worried about loosing ISK and are unwilling to switch to cheaper fits to do battle and continue to improve their gun game. I'm not sure why as plenty of people out there run cheap fits often and do extremely well.... and then there is saving the KDR that you mentioned.
And for whatever reason people don't squad as much as they should and lets face it, comm protocol is awful on most squads, even by veteran players.... most of it is just babbling/bitching when I run with random squads. And obviously finding good squad mates can be hard if you are in a small corp....
Redline is boring for both sides. Running smaller squads and crap gear as the stompers will likely help more than anything you do to try to convince the redberries to push out from the redline in cheaper fits. |
Matticus Monk
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Posted - 2014.02.01 12:15:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:
Here we are actually doing an effort to reduse the stomp and by extension making it a more inclusive ga,e and you bring this up.
Do you expect us to merely give our clones away?
The truth of the matter is that if you are a vet player, with skills and are in a big/good corp and you and are not being challenged you really should be running small squads and your crappiest gear, if you are doing that already - great, if not your post rings hollow.
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Matticus Monk
Ordus Trismegistus
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Posted - 2014.02.01 13:04:00 -
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KalOfTheRathi wrote:Matticus Monk wrote:I think a lot of guys are too worried about loosing ISK and are unwilling to switch to cheaper fits to do battle and continue to improve their gun game. I'm not sure why as plenty of people out there run cheap fits often and do extremely well.... and then there is saving the KDR that you mentioned.
-- snip -- CCP/Shanghai drastically reduced ISK payout sometime back. Now it is quite possible to lose a bunch of ISK when getting stomped by King Bad Mouth and his Proto Horde. So, just Red Line snipe pub stompers and try to get them to lose Proto/Officer gear. What is wrong with that? Until Dust514 has matchmaking all of this is a waste of time. There is no matchmaking beyond the battle academy and, to some extent, PC battles. So positioning himself as the reasonable one in this situation is actually a Troll. Something that is unwelcome down here in the dust. And so it goes.
I haven't lost a ton of ISK running 5k fits against proto stompers, ever. I'd need to die like 15-20 times to break even... and as I said, a lot of guys are unwilling to switch to cheaper fits and risk their KDR in a situation like this. When I'm willing to push objectives on the field it has helped my strategy, gun-game, sneakiness, etc... at the expense of my ISK and KDR. (I'm not thanking these guys, they are still try-hard, cry-baby, pansy-ass tools who I don't respect even an ounce).
Personally I used to just leave the battle and find another as I'd have more fun than sitting in the redline or getting stomped.
I have to admit it would be pretty satisfying to head shot some of those proto chumps; I didn't say there is anything wrong with this. I said "I think a lot of guys are too worried about loosing ISK and are unwilling to switch to cheaper fits to do battle and continue to improve their gun game." I didn't say that staying in the redline was bad or "wrong".
It's the choice you make and a lot of guys make the same choice for the reasons I stated and until the proto stomping tones down, this is the choice a lot of folks will continue to make. And, I support it, honestly, because it makes dudes like the OP take notice.
So, proto-chumps: show us your real skill you baby-faced, snot nosed, security blanket using limp daisies and bring us a real battle. But you'll get your **** handed to you. I know plenty of scouts that would easily tear you to ribbons using standard gear and militia weapons.... |
Matticus Monk
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Posted - 2014.02.01 13:49:00 -
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KingBabar wrote:Matticus Monk wrote:KalOfTheRathi wrote:[quote=Matticus Monk]
(I'm not thanking these guys, they are still try-hard, cry-baby, pansy-ass tools who I don't respect even an ounce). So, proto-chumps: show us your real skill you baby-faced, snot nosed, security blanket using limp daisies and bring us a real battle. But you'll get your **** handed to you. I know plenty of scouts that would easily tear you to ribbons using standard gear and militia weapons.... Yeah yeah heard it all before. The funny thing is that this mentality seems to be the leading one for such a large part of the comunity. We've done test after test running cheaper fits with merely any difference in results. Teamwork, gungame and fighting spirit wins the battles, gear is merely the top of the iceberg. Actually I did another 10 game test 2 days ago. ( I do this from time to time, I play 10 games, solo in cheap fits and notice the scores to see how bad I'd play without team support and with cheap fits.) I ended up with more kills and a better KDR on average compared to my usual stats. Why? Well I played smart for once, no crazy stuff, and I didn't have 3 experienced dudes around me competing for the kills. I did it in a 35K isk enhanced suit with basic weapons. Best game was 40-4 and the worst was 13-5. I know I can play well without my fanzy gear, and no I still won't do it, protogear makes me able to play more recklessly and makes the game more fun cause a loss of 10 suits in a game sort of hurts. So take that "you need your crutch" attitude and stuff it. Do you really think that the dudes fighting at the top end in PC has no real skills and are merely being carried by their gear and skills? STFU
LOL! Sensitive there, big guy. Did I hit a nerve? 
If any of your statements were true, and gear really didn't make the difference, I wouldn't see so many babies using it in full squads. You did "experiments" supposedly? Wow, good for you.... and you learned that it doesn't make a difference? Then don't use it when you and your proto stomping friends run your proposed smaller squads.... simple. Till you do that you're blowing hot-air, dude.
And BTW - if you feel my statements don't apply to YOU specifically, you don't have to include yourself as a "Proto-Chump"...
But I'm sure if this was the case you wouldn't have responded.
If you're not being challenged, you need to KEEP handicapping yourself until you are challenged. Simple concept dude... gear is one variable in this equation, apparently one you are unwilling to adjust because it apparently doesn't factor into things at all.... mathematically, all that extra PG/CPU, extra slot - sure... whatever. you use it as a crutch yourself, you admitted being able to play more recklessly with it instead of playing smart....
Man, you are a piece of work, dude. LOL! |
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