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Teilka Darkmist
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Posted - 2014.02.01 12:17:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:You and your crew are notorious for stomping! GTFO.
If someone who's 'notorious for stomping' is coming out against it, doesn't thqt suggest that maybe there's a problem and that the person in question is, maybe, changing their attitude, trying to highlight something that's wrong and trying to help change it?
By your standard, no-one would get out of prison because 'They've done it before so they'll always do it.'
Maybe what it takes to curb stomping is for a former stomper to come up with the tactic against it. Of course what happens then is they try and share their solution and they get heckled by other players, so they think 'screw helping out' and go back to stomping, keeping their idea for whenever they need to use it to stop others from stomping them.
When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.
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Teilka Darkmist
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Posted - 2014.02.01 15:22:00 -
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Mad Syringe wrote:By the way,
since I recently started to play eve (wanted to know what's going on with OBs etc.). I found out, that eve is basically a game that favors ganking over everything else.
What does that mean?
In EVE, you tend to make sure you have way higher firepower then the opponent, before you engage. If you haven't you just run away.
In that regard, dust has managed to do exactly that, one side is always superior to the other. So the odds of turning a battle in your favor, are minimal at best in an average pub stomp game. There is the rare balanced one which can be a lot of fun, but mainly its an unbalanced stomp.
Maybe that is what the devs want, but I doubt that the average console jockey likes that...
Whenever this game gets fully integrated into eve, it will be even worse. In PC the EVE side will dictate the outcome of matches. It won't be our pathetic kdr or anything, it will be economic values that dictate the outcome of battles.
Expect to be anihilated by obital strikes from Titans, that devastate a planet in a way that makes terraforming necessary afterwards. Good luck with gungame and Proto suits against that...
That's a huge generalisation about eve players tending to make sure they have way higher firepower than the other side. It depends on who you're with and what you're doing. I know there are plenty of players who go out solo or in small gangs and aren't afraid to engage even when numerically they're outmatched. Because it's not just about the numbers on a small fight, it's about player skill as well, gauging when to overheat your modules, or switch your ammo, when to move in closer or back away.
Sure, the blob fights may be more about sheer numbers, I don't know, in 7 years I've never been in one. And yes, they're what get all the press, but it's the smaller gang and solo pilots who get fights more consistently.
When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.
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Teilka Darkmist
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Posted - 2014.02.01 17:08:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:Teilka Darkmist wrote:ANON Cerberus wrote:You and your crew are notorious for stomping! GTFO. If someone who's 'notorious for stomping' is coming out against it, doesn't thqt suggest that maybe there's a problem and that the person in question is, maybe, changing their attitude, trying to highlight something that's wrong and trying to help change it? By your standard, no-one would get out of prison because 'They've done it before so they'll always do it.' Maybe what it takes to curb stomping is for a former stomper to come up with the tactic against it. Of course what happens then is they try and share their solution and they get heckled by other players, so they think 'screw helping out' and go back to stomping, keeping their idea for whenever they need to use it to stop others from stomping them. That said, you can't come out against stomping and keep doing it and expect anyone to take you seriously. Match deeds to words and people will take notice. Amen. I've seen RE and ML both come out about this. It's a good thing, but nothing goes by without complaint and even if they change things up they need to realize not everyone will notice or accept that they have changed. It is all a matter of attitude and what is considered acceptable, having these corps recognizing the problem and encouraging their players to be aware of it can only be good. It isn't that hard, play hard until you can see you the writing on the wall, I usually know in the first minute if one team is outmatched, then switch to make it more challenging for yourself. It sucks that players have to work out a solution and can't just play their best, but that is the way it is.
Nah, that's the New Eden way. Corps and Alliances in EVE are always coming up with new tactics to counter the old ones. Part of the reason for that, of course, is that CCP keep adding to and re-balancing the game. Which is only right imo.
Even in RL, the military studies tactics and comes up with ways to improve on, or beat them. It's how you get better.
When I play as a sniper, I'm more likely to be nearer to the opponents redline than my own.
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