Provided their is a mlt variant, I see no prolem with HAV's or HAAV's , MAV's or MAAV'S requiring a pilot suit to run.
Light vehicle shouldn't need them otherwise you are unfairly stopping the use of personal transport.

I've seen it both ways about crews on capsuleer controlled ships. It seems some have crews and some don't. It, unfortunatly, doesn't seem to have any effect on how the ship actually flies. Personally I think it would be great if you could chose to have a human crew on your ship which includes a slight recurring cost (We're talking tens or hundreds of isk depending on the size) whilst you're actually undocked but which improves your stats a small amount. This would take into account how automated systems can only react to problems as they happen or after they happen. With a human you have an ability to predict where problems are going to happen based on information an automated system can't detect and interpret as it would be highly situational.

How this feeds into tanks is, I think a tank should be useable as a one-man, automated system, but it should be most effective when it has a crew onboard, communicating with each other. Dropships should be better when they have a pilot and a co-pilot/gunner than they are with just a pilot. It should apply even more in Dust than in EVE as you have less time to react to events as they happen. In space you usually have kilometres between you and your opponent. On the ground you have metres.

Bro, the crewed ships preform far worse than the Capusleer ships with a small crew or no crew.

It's a tech 2 suit, so no, there wouldn't be a MLT version.

Yes, non-capsuleer ships do perform worse. What I'm saying is that Capsuleer ships with a crew should, in my opinion, be at least slightly better than Capsuleer ships with no crew.

All our current suits are T2, or are you referring to specalization in skill tree.
Either then no, if their is not a mlt variant of a suit then it shouldn't be necessary to pilot a vehicle.

No they are not. Light, Medium, Heavy frames, and every vehicle but the ADS is tech 1.

EDIT: IT shouldn't be. It should simply make it better, depending on how you fit it. Also, once it comes out, vehicles should be nerfed. MLT vehicles needs to be nerfed now.

No you are kistaken all suits are Tier 2, their used to be a previous iteration of suits that diddn't havethe same player model.
Its the same with weapons there used to be a T1 Assault Rifle with an underslung grenade launcher, check the old footage.

T3 weapons are rumoured to have hundreds off attachments and configurations.
You are definitely thinking of pilot suits being up a skill tree level (called a specilization)

Confirmed:

Anti Infantry weapons are far too versatile.

With no DEV confirmation you can't even prove yourself correct.

Even if, these alleged drones are automated and their functions are still managed by 1 player, so that argument is both incorrect and irrelevant.

Haha try this...

No. There are no drones and things are not as you claim. You cannot prove otherwise, thus you are wrong by your own logic.

Give it up, Atiim, you can't argue with someone who thinks that a magical teapot in the asteroid belt is worth believing in just because it cannot be proven to not exist.

Lore

You cant prove otherwise

But this is the future where a pod pilot in EVE can use his ship with a skeleton crew, without the pod pilot it would take a full crew

In DUST with his pilot suit it only takes 1, the other 2 gunners offer nothing to the working of the tank, they dont increase its HP or its resistance or its speed etc

Lore

You cant prove otherwise

But this is the future where a pod pilot in EVE can use his ship with a skeleton crew, without the pod pilot it would take a full crew

In DUST with his pilot suit it only takes 1, the other 2 gunners offer nothing to the working of the tank, they dont increase its HP or its resistance or its speed etc

*checks skill tree and market place*

Nope, no pilot suit. Take your babbling elsewhere please.

it doesnt take half a squad to kill a mlt tank. it takes half a squad filled with idiots to kill a mlt tank.

i can solo most mlt tanks with adv swarms and std av nades pretty easily. and i havnt even put much of any sp into it.

Yet it only takes 1 person to fly/fire a titan. The inability to control two aspects of something 1000x smaller makes no sense. All that has to happen is either slow tanks down, or make prox mines stop giving warnings. I alone can do enough damage to make a tank run away. If running away wasn't an easy out I'd be able to finish it off. Also I'd reduce blaster range so they had to fear AV nades.

Both of those need to happen along with 1 seat per gun + 1 seat for the driver. IMHO, zooming around the ground of the battlefield should be the sole domain of the LAV (and perhaps the MAV when we get them). HAVs should take forever to get somewhere, but once they do you're in for a world of hurt if you're in their range.

Another thing, concerning the turret ranges. Ranges of Turrets should mirror the ranges of similar weapons of that tier. MLT Railguns should have the same basic range as a MLT Forge Gun (which IMHO should be called a Forge Shotgun since that is about all of the range they get). MLT Blasters should have roughly the same range as MLT HMG.

Even then, range should increase by size (or rather decrease by reduction of size). If the MLT 80GJ Rail has the same range as a MLT Forge Shotgun, then the Small Turret versions should have 1/4 the range of the 80GJ since it is a 20GJ gun.

Though this would also mean that the PRO 80GJ Rails would have the same range as PRO Forge Guns (which is stupid long range AFAIK), as well, PRO 80GJ Blasters would melt anything within 30m or so (not entirely sure on optimal of the HMG since I am only a tourist with it).

In my tank i have 2 drones working blow decks for the reloading of turrets and activating modules, other than that its me doing all the work

You cant prove otherwise

Lore

You cant prove otherwise

But this is the future where a pod pilot in EVE can use his ship with a skeleton crew, without the pod pilot it would take a full crew

In DUST with his pilot suit it only takes 1, the other 2 gunners offer nothing to the working of the tank, they dont increase its HP or its resistance or its speed etc

*checks market place*

Pilot suit tab is under light frame in the dropsuit section

Only a matter of time

*checks skill tree and market place*

Nope, no pilot suit. Take your babbling elsewhere please.

I know this has been said before billions of times, but it bears repeating I suppose.

EVE =/= DUST

You cannot balance a FPS game based on a space ship game. You cannot balance a 16v16 game on a fleet v fleet game. You cannot balance a console lobby shooter where you actively have to earn SP off of a PC MMO space opera where you can let the game sit for months and not miss a beat on your SP accumulation. You cannot balance a game that is based on using cover, strafing, aiming and "gungame" on a game that is based on whatever the hell you use to kill people with in a space MMO.

Therefore, you cannot base tank v infantry balance on titan v frigate balance.

Eve also doesn't have such small grids (relative to the size of the individual) or the need for each side to be balanced out before a fight starts. It also doesn't have people complaining about how someone in a battleship can alpha their frigate or the ability to return to the battle within a couple of second, you have to clone (assuming you're podded) get in a new ship, undock then fly to the engagement zone. And that's the shortest version of it.

Yea no not happening

Next to impossible to do anyways since who skills up what and who buys what and can they fit it even if the person who has it can fit it, its impossible and tbh a stupid idea, even BF4 doesnt use this method

Also lol a 80GJ Large railgun turret which needs a tank to use it and over 1000PG will fire a shell further than a handheld FG

English, it is not impossible, it is called coordination. One guy skills up appropriately to be able to sit in the drivers seat of the tank and the other guy skills up appropriately to sit in the gunners seat. Who buys what and fits the tank has nothing to do splitting driver and gunner.

If CCP just made it so that you actually needed to have the skills to use something to use it, then it would be as simple as:

If I have skills for a HAV though no skills for any turrets, I can still buy turrets and fit them, I just won't be able to use them. They will be there to be occupied by corp/squadmates who are appropriately skilled. I will never be able to cycle to the turret seats unless I skill for them.

Conversely, if I have skills for Small Rail Turrets but I don't have skills for a HAV, if I hop into your HAV, even if it is empty, I will never be able to cycle to the drivers seat. If you don't have Small Rail Turrets and I am not skilled to use the turrets you do have fitted then I will just not be able to enter your HAV no matter how many times I spam circle.

Tie the seats that are open to you to the skills you have.

This would cut down on vehicle theft for one and for two it would also cut down on vehicle spam.

In response to your comment about the 80GJ Rail, what percentage of the HAVs PG does that 80GJ Rail take up? Is it proportional to the percentage of PG the Heavy needs to dedicate to his Forge Gun? It called balance, which should be more important than realism (as though 80GJ Rails and modified handheld mining lasers have any realism to begin with).

I firmly believe that the most important and fairest way to solve this problem is to keep everything the way it is, but to make it more difficult to obtain these tanks. They should cost more, both in SP and in ISK. Maybe even the militia ones can be cheap. So that new people can get into them. But they arent nearly as strong. I was talking with some buddies last night they suggested that there should be a limit on how many vehiceles YOU can call in. If you lose a tank then you gotta wait for about four or five mins before you can call in another one. Which would cause you to have to be skilled in both infantry and vehicles. I do agree that just one person shouldn't be able to take out a tank. But then again it shouldn't be so easy for just one person to get a tank