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Bax Zanith
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Posted - 2014.01.18 01:48:00 -
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A lot of protos just assume where militia newbarries, and tell us suck it up and imbrace the imposible challenge. "You should always accept the challenge!" They say. "It fun if theres a challenge!" If you protos like a challenge then why use a suit that makes everything easy as pie?
In the last anbush match I was in, the red team was in ADV gear, when they saw most of are team has militia gear, they switched to full on proto. So stop with the challenge baloney. Are you all just making up for lack of skill? (Sorry for any spelling errors. I posted this from my phone.)
I'd say walk in my shoes for a day, but you probably still won't understand.
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Eko Sol
3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance
56
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Posted - 2014.01.18 02:31:00 -
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NOTE: Skip to the bottom if you don't want to read all of this.
Two important things.
1) Losing bad sucks 2) Losing bad sucks less in a good corp squad
I love soloing. i love it so much I understand that I can't carry 15 other soloers or crappy squads through a match.
I have 6mil sp and no proto (5) skilled out except for the AR and I don't run it.
I play mostly tier 1.5 or tier 2 builds. I dabble in an aurum build on occasion that I call tier 2.5 but it is soley for hacking nulls early on.
That being said, I score over 1200 WP pretty consistently solo. Sometimes I crack 1200 and the second place person on my team gets 200 and sometimes they get 1000. Again, this is when we get stomped. On a bad day i might have between 700 and 1k and am in the top 3. Again, when getting stomped.
I also play in a corp full of people that like playing the game and know how to play it. A good corp, as far as I am concerned, will actively try to get you to participate in the squad. I mean, sometimes, I straight up get a message telling me to stop what I am doing and squad up. I play a few matches and then when someone else is LFS I get back out and go solo (if that is what I wanted to do). When in that corp squad, everything is chill and awesome.
I say, if you aren't getting recruited ACTIVELY into a squad by your corp then join a top 50 corp. Stop wasting your time soloing a team based MMO and complaining when things turn out how they are expected to.
There is nothing wrong with going to a corp that wants you to play and wants you to squad and will let you be with them when they stomp others.
I know that's a lot to read so you can just read the following as a conclusion:
JOIN A CORP THAT YOU CAN STOMP OTHERS IN....PERIOD. |
Bugz The Rabbit
5
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Posted - 2014.01.18 02:37:00 -
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Bax Zanith wrote:A lot of protos just assume where militia newbarries, and tell us suck it up and imbrace the imposible challenge. "You should always accept the challenge!" They say. "It fun if theres a challenge!" If you protos like a challenge then why use a suit that makes everything easy as pie?
In the last anbush match I was in, the red team was in ADV gear, when they saw most of are team has militia gear, they switched to full on proto. So stop with the challenge baloney. Are you all just making up for lack of skill? (Sorry for any spelling errors. I posted this from my phone.)
you don't have proto gear, I can tell it'll be okay shhhsshhhh
Ehh, Watsup Doc?
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Bax Zanith
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Posted - 2014.01.18 04:15:00 -
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Bugz The Rabbit wrote:Bax Zanith wrote:A lot of protos just assume where militia newbarries, and tell us suck it up and imbrace the imposible challenge. "You should always accept the challenge!" They say. "It fun if theres a challenge!" If you protos like a challenge then why use a suit that makes everything easy as pie?
In the last anbush match I was in, the red team was in ADV gear, when they saw most of are team has militia gear, they switched to full on proto. So stop with the challenge baloney. Are you all just making up for lack of skill? (Sorry for any spelling errors. I posted this from my phone.) you don't have proto gear, I can tell it'll be okay shhhsshhhh
I have the skills for the proto gear, and I will aquire the suit in approximately 69k sp. When I get it, I WON'T be spaming the living daylights out of it, un leashing it's wrathfull scorn on newbarries and others who don't deserve the stomp. I'll save it for the common rainy day. When they stomp, I'll stomp them back. If I'm faced with newbarries, a STD heavy will be enough havic.
And as for you eko, and other posters. You always assume. I was with a squad when it happened. I'm often with at least one other merc. Two friends of mine have full proto and even they think the stomping and tank spam is rediculess.
I'm not saying don't use proto. I'm saying use it when its needed.
I'd say walk in my shoes for a day, but you probably still won't understand.
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Kira Takizawa
2Shitz 1Giggle
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Posted - 2014.01.18 05:05:00 -
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MOOSEON THE LOOSE wrote:devonus durga wrote:This thread shall be used to publicly aknowledge the scions of no skill so that others might be aware of their actions, transgressions, and take appropriate action to either avoid or kill such members. Please be aware that all these groups commonly run with plentiful numbers of nanite injectors and that should you choose to engage them, it is recommended that you not only kill them, but make sure their non revivabke by headshotting them, blowing them to bits, or shooting their body after its down. I reccomend this to such an extent that you ignore their other near by players to insure their 200k suit stays dead.
The best tactics for handling these corporations is to use a cheap disposable suit armed with remote explosives. With the exception of certain heavy builds, no proto suit can survive a remote, and they do not need to be double tapped. I personally reccomend a militia scout shotgunner build. Dampeners are useless as they regularly have at least one proto scanner available.
I encourage players to not associate with these players as they ruin the game and abuse the match making system. I have marked some as deserving of faction warfare team killing due to the unrepentant and abusive actions, and that perhaps some repercussions for said actions will at least give them pause before steam rolling some newberries and those less skilled/experienced.
Nyan San/chan: Well known proto stompers from japan. This corp is rarely found as an individual and is often squaded with a full squad of other proto sompers, usually from their own corp though known to squad and que syn with other known proto stomp corps. They are fond of using proto tanks with proto logo suit drivers who will hop out to repair their vehicle, allowing them to have more hardeners and damage mods then most proto tankers. They rarely role rail gun tanks but will often bring 3-4 proto blaster tanks to the field. When not using tank squads they will use the ,latest FoTM weapon, at this current time proto rail rifles, usually assault. Several of their members will also use core locus grenade spam so avoid bunching in groups, and remember that their blast radius is larger then other locus grenades. They are also well known users of the equipment lag glitch, however the recent patch seems to have fixed this to an extent. They will also commonly use cheap locations such as the mushroom top, or other unassaultable locations if the situation warrants. Most commonly found in ambush. Their actions warrant FW killing in my opin
Ancient exiles: not as commonly found as the first two, squads and que syncing squads are still a regular occurance, and often consists of at least 1-2 tanks. Little other Intel is known of their tactics and associations with other corps, however they still pose a threat when found in public matches
Sver True blood: A large corp with many members, not all of whome proto stomp, however when found In A full squad of their own it is more or less gaurenteed to consist of all proto players. When found they do not utilize tanks as much as the others, however that does not mean they will not do so. Their corps proto players seem quite fond of HMGs and it is not uncommon to find 2 or more protons backed by logo support.
There are many many other corps in addition to these who engage in such actions, usually less often then the above mentioned corps. Should thier threat to amush become more common tactics and information may becoeme available. Other offending parties include
Molon Labe (removed from main list due to some of their members willingness to talk, majority of members seem not to abuse the system however may occasionally end in protostomping due to the coincidences of matchmaking) War ravens (may warrant upgrading pending further information. Duma corp (rarely found but tank spams when encountered) Rainbow effect (rarely encountered but a threat when found) Generals (accused but uncomfirmed)
I would offer isk bounties on these players however such is outside my budget at this time, if any body wishes to discuss become patron for such bounties however please message me in game. I will continue to update this as tactics, corps, and other information becomes available, and encourage players tobrag by provideing kill screens, information, and other such details pertaining to proto stompers. Fuckin QQ more I run proto if I want. I spent my time as a blueberry and now I can spend my time as a proto stomper. People who don't understand dust is a team game and they run around like Rambo and expect to get 30-0 right off the start are ridiculous. UPGRADE THE GENERALS the guys that I play with from there run proto 90% of the time and we que sync full teams for TEAM PRACTICE. man scrubberries are just getting worse and worse.
You are a sad human being.. and with that said yes run as a team but even some teams can't compete with the best gear and stupid to think otherwise.
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
2766
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Posted - 2014.01.18 05:13:00 -
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You understand that Nyain San has infinite ISK via PC farmer via locked districts. They run Proto All the time because price is no object.
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devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
103
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Posted - 2014.01.18 16:01:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:You understand that Nyain San has infinite ISK via PC farmer via locked districts. They run Proto All the time because price is no object.
Yes but I still relish being able to cost them some mony, better then laying in a ditch and waiting to die or notspawning in.
Why just today I killed around 15 of their protos across 6 matches or so, not much, but still cost them between 3-4m
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Bojo The Mighty
L.O.T.I.S.
2785
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Posted - 2014.01.19 02:45:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:You understand that Nyain San has infinite ISK via PC farmer via locked districts. They run Proto All the time because price is no object. Yes but I still relish being able to cost them some mony, better then laying in a ditch and waiting to die or notspawning in. Why just today I killed around 15 of their protos across 6 matches or so, not much, but still cost them between 3-4m Out of Billions that is made back and then X times some (X being a large number) a day for not participating. You think that costing them works towards some kind of goal like if you cost them Y money they will break. But you know it's nothing in the grand scheme. You want to stop protostompers, you have to take this ring to Mount Doom and cast it in the Volcano. Easier said than done.
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Mathew LaBorde
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
42
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Posted - 2014.01.19 06:15:00 -
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Bax Zanith wrote:A lot of protos just assume where militia newbarries, and tell us suck it up and imbrace the imposible challenge. "You should always accept the challenge!" They say. "It fun if theres a challenge!" If you protos like a challenge then why use a suit that makes everything easy as pie?
In the last anbush match I was in, the red team was in ADV gear, when they saw most of are team has militia gear, they switched to full on proto. So stop with the challenge baloney. Are you all just making up for lack of skill? (Sorry for any spelling errors. I posted this from my phone.) your pitiful.
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Mathew LaBorde
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.19 06:16:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:Bojo The Mighty wrote:You understand that Nyain San has infinite ISK via PC farmer via locked districts. They run Proto All the time because price is no object. Yes but I still relish being able to cost them some mony, better then laying in a ditch and waiting to die or notspawning in. Why just today I killed around 15 of their protos across 6 matches or so, not much, but still cost them between 3-4m I feel the same way |
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devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
164
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Posted - 2014.01.22 13:12:00 -
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List updated in first post, second post now contains tips and reccomendations to grief... I mean punish, same team proto stompers. Please remember a proto sgomper is a proto stomper, weather in a squad doing it or not, weather they or their corp is, they still support it.
Please take appropriate action against all members of protostomping corps as found, be the individuals or in squads.
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m twiggz
Pradox One Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.01.22 13:17:00 -
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I proto-stomp daily. Feel free to add me to this list. I'd like to see some people get paid for killing me, because I know I cost them a lot more money than they ever cost me.
I'm also curious how running a full squad of proto gear players is abusing the system? We like to play with our friends, we like to run proto gear when we play, we can afford to run proto gear. One day you'll grow up to be a big mean pub-stomping proto wearing merc as well. Do like we all did, grind out the SP and grind out the ISK.
If you had a brand new t-shirt or an old ratty one with holes, which would you wear? Hmm? |
devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
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Posted - 2014.01.22 13:23:00 -
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Paradox as a whole seem pretty decent about pubs, and what happens in Fw is fine IMO. This is for those who do it consistently, only in a squad, and with the intention of stomp in.
Running proto solo, or even in a squad of 3 or 4 is OK. Heck even an occasional squad I wouldn't mind, its for those who consistently do it, without remorse or though for the community, and usually accompanied by particularly cheap tactics or devestatingly over powering means, or just plain don't give the pubs a break, and steam roll them constantly.
The occasional stomping is good for the newberry. It let's them know what their aspiring for, being rolled match aft match aft match, is not.
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Charlotte O'Dell
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
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Posted - 2014.01.22 14:13:00 -
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Add me to list damnit! I ran 500k isk tanks all day yesterday and I didn't get a single QQ
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
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Posted - 2014.01.22 14:20:00 -
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Oh I saw you, but everyone on here already knows you. No point in fanning your vanity. Pretty much any proto tank is a proto stomper (proto equipped tank), if added them all it would be a bloody list 10 miles long. And yo do iT solo usually, which I can respect. Your corp isn't overly guilty, and I can't blame you if your backed up by 5 militia tanks.
So yes Charlotte, your a threat, but your a solo threat. And don't take that as a disc, its a compliment. You unto yourself however will not be added to the list, as you at least give people a chance to kill you, even if its bloody hard as all hell.
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TuFar Gon
Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.01.22 15:32:00 -
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So freakin pathetic. Dude you might as well ask ccp to remove proto gear all together if your gonna QQ that hard over it. I mean really. Put a binky in this baby's mouth and change his diaper. W O W!! |
devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
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Posted - 2014.01.22 15:34:00 -
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Yes yes I know. Qq more htfu, get good nokb, welcome to eve, stfu, suck it up. Heard it all more or less. We are on page 12.
Tough the binky was a nice twist.
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Roy Ventus
Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.22 15:34:00 -
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I think this gentleman is a bit mad and possibly angry.
"There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all."
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devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
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Posted - 2014.01.23 16:54:00 -
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Woohoo, this 5x sp event is great for grabbing all the stompers at their prime!
Still no cure for proto tank spam though.
Even more corps added to the list! See I'd your corp is cheap.... I mean gud enough to make the list!
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Aeon Amadi
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
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Posted - 2014.01.24 09:51:00 -
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I always love this ****, I really do.
Can't tell you how many times I'll run standard/advanced gear and then get a message in my inbox about proto-stomping; doesn't make any sense. So I casually remind the person who I am, what I do and what I don't do...
... and then of course I run into a team of players using prototype gear, which persuades me to bring out my own to stay competitive. All of a sudden, inbox starts getting filled up again.
Or, my personal favorite, the time where I was injector spammed because I was using Prototype AV against the nigh invulnerable tanks in Faction Warfare. Or the time I was using my Proto sniper load-out to counter a Thale's on the enemy team.
And then, low and behold, I see this thread; which is actively chastizing entire corporations in a "guilt by association" manner with a few posts trying to justify and save face because of reasons. /sarcasm. But further more, someone made the decision to rope in vehicles into the mix... So while we're here discussing what we can and cannot use in a match without being publicly branded by someone(s) who just couldn't get over it, what the hell are we supposed to run if not something that fails to be competitive?
Standard Commando suits with Plasma Cannons and Breach Shotguns, anyone?
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8213
BIG BAD W0LVES
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Posted - 2014.01.24 09:53:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:I always love this ****, I really do.
Can't tell you how many times I'll run standard/advanced gear and then get a message in my inbox about proto-stomping; doesn't make any sense. So I casually remind the person who I am, what I do and what I don't do...
... and then of course I run into a team of players using prototype gear, which persuades me to bring out my own to stay competitive. All of a sudden, inbox starts getting filled up again.
Or, my personal favorite, the time where I was injector spammed because I was using Prototype AV against the nigh invulnerable tanks in Faction Warfare. Or the time I was using my Proto sniper load-out to counter a Thale's on the enemy team.
And then, low and behold, I see this thread; which is actively chastizing entire corporations in a "guilt by association" manner with a few posts trying to justify and save face because of reasons. /sarcasm. But further more, someone made the decision to rope in vehicles into the mix... So while we're here discussing what we can and cannot use in a match without being publicly branded by someone(s) who just couldn't get over it, what the hell are we supposed to run if not something that fails to be competitive?
Standard Commando suits with Plasma Cannons and Breach Shotguns, anyone?
The best part of having one AE or NS in your squad is that you always get to hear the hatemail they get every game. Even if they don't do good in the slightest. To many people judge players by their corp in this game.
Fish in a bucket!
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2794
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Posted - 2014.01.24 09:57:00 -
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It's stupid. These gamers don't accept the challenge and work to get better with the understanding that every loss could be a key to victory. They cry and want the game changed around them.
It's like a sword. Before the blade is sharp and deadly, the metal must first be bathed in fire, beaten and folded many times over before it becomes a deadly weapon.
How these new gamers entering New Eden don't understand this is beyond me. I'm just glad that's not me.
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
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devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
204
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Posted - 2014.01.24 09:58:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:I always love this ****, I really do.
Can't tell you how many times I'll run standard/advanced gear and then get a message in my inbox about proto-stomping; doesn't make any sense. So I casually remind the person who I am, what I do and what I don't do...
... and then of course I run into a team of players using prototype gear, which persuades me to bring out my own to stay competitive. All of a sudden, inbox starts getting filled up again.
Or, my personal favorite, the time where I was injector spammed because I was using Prototype AV against the nigh invulnerable tanks in Faction Warfare. Or the time I was using my Proto sniper load-out to counter a Thale's on the enemy team.
And then, low and behold, I see this thread; which is actively chastizing entire corporations in a "guilt by association" manner with a few posts trying to justify and save face because of reasons. /sarcasm. But further more, someone made the decision to rope in vehicles into the mix... So while we're here discussing what we can and cannot use in a match without being publicly branded by someone(s) who just couldn't get over it, what the hell are we supposed to run if not something that fails to be competitive?
Standard Commando suits with Plasma Cannons and Breach Shotguns, anyone?
Personally I know no one will fix it, everyone will wait till CCP does etc. I'm just firwarnng nooblets and giving reccomendations to those who care to try and do something.
I'm well aware protostomping won't stop, regardless of whatever justification they want to use. I'm not asking you too, I'm just putting out information for others to use, as well.
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devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
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Posted - 2014.01.24 10:00:00 -
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Meh, guilt by association is quite common accepted.
You choose your friends, and you chose your corp. If people hate your corp, suit, tactics, you get to deal with them, and this thread, because you chose all 3 of them.
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
131
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Posted - 2014.01.24 10:02:00 -
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All people want is options.
A small group comparatively have the corp power / PC income to run full proto indefinitely regardless of costs. Is that fair that they should be put up in battles against new players and other not so fortunate players?
Granted people can run cheap fits and make isk. However most average players CANNOT afford to use proto 24/7.
All we are asking is for one or two options so we can pick the 'challenge level'. A militia / standard game mode - and an advanced / proto game mode would probably suffice! I dont see why people dont get this.
Its all about balancing the matches so there is an actual fight, an actual battle and not just a slaughter fest red line stomp every 8 out of 10 games. |
Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2795
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Posted - 2014.01.24 10:02:00 -
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No you are creating soft minded mercenaries. That is a cancer. There are many people here who got the welcome to new eden butt whoopings when they first arrived, me included. Yet, we kept pushing on to becoming better.
HTFU
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
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ANON Cerberus
Tiny Toons
131
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Posted - 2014.01.24 10:04:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:No you are creating soft minded mercenaries. That is a cancer. There are many people here who got the welcome to new eden butt whoopings when they first arrived, me included. Yet, we kept pushing on to becoming better.
HTFU
That type of mind set is why this game has not attracted or kept a lot of players. Keep that up and there will only be the proto pc corps left.
Come on people are already unhappy that PC is basically the same few faces. Do you want new competition to grow or do you want them to get pissed off with the game before they even get their foot in the door so to speak? |
Haerr
Molon Labe. Public Disorder.
190
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Posted - 2014.01.24 10:05:00 -
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Aeon Amadi wrote:Standard Commando suits with Plasma Cannons and Breach Shotguns, anyone? lol.
Day 2.
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devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
205
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Posted - 2014.01.24 10:05:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:All people want is options.
A small group comparatively have the corp power / PC income to run full proto indefinitely regardless of costs. Is that fair that they should be put up in battles against new players and other not so fortunate players?
Granted people can run cheap fits and make isk. However most average players CANNOT afford to use proto 24/7.
All we are asking is for one or two options so we can pick the 'challenge level'. A militia / standard game mode - and an advanced / proto game mode would probably suffice! I dont see why people dont get this.
Its all about balancing the matches so there is an actual fight, an actual battle and not just a slaughter fest red line stomp every 8 out of 10 games.
And till then I merely reccomend tactics and targets for the futile rage usually unable to be utilized by the common player. Most f yes are not satisfied wit soonGäó
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devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
205
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Posted - 2014.01.24 10:08:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:No you are creating soft minded mercenaries. That is a cancer. There are many people here who got the welcome to new eden butt whoopings when they first arrived, me included. Yet, we kept pushing on to becoming better.
HTFU
Why BC I give them targets tactics and ideas? Oh yes we are suppose to sit there and take it n the ass with a smile. Well forgive me if I shove a remote up your proto stomping squads ass.
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