Nyan San/chan:
Well known proto stompers from japan. This corp is rarely found as an individual and is often squaded with a full squad of other proto sompers, usually from their own corp though known to squad and que syn with other known proto stomp corps. They are fond of using proto tanks with proto logo suit drivers who will hop out to repair their vehicle, allowing them to have more hardeners and damage mods then most proto tankers. They rarely role rail gun tanks but will often bring 3-4 proto blaster tanks to the field. When not using tank squads they will use the ,latest FoTM weapon, at this current time proto rail rifles, usually assault. Several of their members will also use core locus grenade spam so avoid bunching in groups, and remember that their blast radius is larger then other locus grenades. They are also well known users of the equipment lag glitch, however the recent patch seems to have fixed this to an extent. They will also commonly use cheap locations such as the mushroom top, or other unassaultable locations if the situation warrants. Most commonly found in ambush. Their actions warrant FW killing in my opinion

Molon labe:
Another proto group, currently quite fond of rolling squads of proto tanks, all blaster as observed thus far. Not to be under estimated out of their tanks, and often found squaring with or que syncing with other proto corps, including nyan. They also have several associated groups that occasionally role with them, however rest assured if you see at least 3 of these members, they are most likely in a squad of 6, from composed of lesser known allied corps or other proto corps, and most likely all running proto gear. They will also use mlt tanks once any possible enemy tank threat has been neutralized, so if you want to hurt them the worst, kill their initial tanks if you can. They are also known to utilize assault dropships and it is not uncommon for them to field 2 or more if they do. Found in ambush and doms. Also warrants faction warfare team killing.

I'm not saying running proto is bad, you worked hard put the time in got the gear, go ahead run it. Just don't feel the need to run with 5-10 other people all the time constantly. And I actually almost added your corp to the watch list lol.

Its not people running proto that ruins the game, its the peoplwho do it in such a way as take the fun out of it for everyone else in the match that does.

The only "problem corp" that needs to kicked to the curb is Duna Corp, and only because they insist on running six tanks every ambush game they play, and they play for hours sometimes. I made my peace with proto suits when I realised it was the teamwork that was getting me killed more than the better gear (although I acknowledge it does make a significan difference).

I've yet to figure out how six tanks can be taken off the field when they're in your face within a minute of the match starting, but oh hum. Who wants to live forever?

Good luck, anyway. You're going to need it.

When I run into the occasional squad or two yeah, when I run against the same 10 peopl in 3 or 4 matches? Nahhh

And abusing something that is broken, is OK? Be it matchmaking, the equipment lag issue, tank spam, etc.

And I didn't say team work was bad, I run in a squad regulary, heck I don't even mind que syncing if its not 12 guys all running proto. Half the fun of the game is running together. But there are corps who abuse their power, the system, current OP weapons/mechanics, etc, and just make the game no fun for anyone else. When you ruin the game for other people, its wrong, period, and there are certain corps that do this consistently, and the only reason they do it s because they can.

That's what this topic is about. Not protons in general, not teamwork, its about those who consistently abuse the current state of the game and conti uously do it. sver and exiles are good about it usually, thiwr just there BC when they do do it, new players and less equipped players need to be prepared.

The only "problem corp" that needs to kicked to the curb is Duna Corp, and only because they insist on running six tanks every ambush game they play, and they play for hours sometimes. I made my peace with proto suits when I realised it was the teamwork that was getting me killed more than the better gear (although I acknowledge it does make a significan difference).

I've yet to figure out how six tanks can be taken off the field when they're in your face within a minute of the match starting, but oh hum. Who wants to live forever?

Good luck, anyway. You're going to need it.

I don't like any of this **** either. Running solo domination gets really old facing 2-3 squads every match when I'm on a team of noobs.


But not everything you listed is abusing the game :P In fact, I wish I still had my Python now :(

When I run into the occasional squad or two yeah, when I run against the same 10 peopl in 3 or 4 matches? Nahhh

And abusing something that is broken, is OK? Be it matchmaking, the equipment lag issue, tank spam, etc.

And I didn't say team work was bad, I run in a squad regulary, heck I don't even mind que syncing if its not 12 guys all running proto. Half the fun of the game is running together. But there are corps who abuse their power, the system, current OP weapons/mechanics, etc, and just make the game no fun for anyone else. When you ruin the game for other people, its wrong, period, and there are certain corps that do this consistently, and the only reason they do it s because they can.

That's what this topic is about. Not protons in general, not teamwork, its about those who consistently abuse the current state of the game and conti uously do it. sver and exiles are good about it usually, thiwr just there BC when they do do it, new players and less equipped players need to be prepared.

Stop running solo then you noob! At least squad up with 1 other person so they can try to watch your back. ( I recommend xSaphir3 or Rampage ).

Maybe if people quit playing with screaming and crying family members in the back ground while they eat chips and mouth breath. Then I might consider doing something that requires me to listen to other people.

If the OP hadn't been sending so much hate mail, I would have sent them some ISK for continuing to push.

The matchmaking was terrible in the matches that brought this on. I switched to a scout BPO suit and ran around with a scrambler pistol in two of them. It happens, but I can tell you that I'm not going to run **** gear all the time out of some pathetic belief that using gear that I earned is bad.

Kuddos to the OP for running in a squad and bringing it hard in those matches. Lay off the hatemail and QQing and keep getting better.

Yeah, I was tad miffed that night, my apologies. I actually need to send that whole group apologies, the rage boiled over, which partially resulted in this as I need to do something constructive with my rage besides yell at people.

I understand where you are coming from...however, you play EVE? Check out how folks view the CFC or Goons. Any PVP game has this facet to some degree. The EVE / Dust universe just bring it into sharp focus as a factor of the game play.

I'm on the receiving end of pub ambush beatdowns as often as I help deliver them...I'm an average solo player and excellent teamplayer. Everytime I see a guy on the board go 43/1 or get rolled by a Nyain San pub ambush ROFLSTOMP in less than 5min it doesn't make me upset at anyone but myself and I keep trying to get better.

Again, I understand your beef with the situation, however, if you have groups of very experienced guys that want to run together the outcome is pretty much forecasted. To me the current solution is to get better individually and build a stronger Corps so you aren't on the receiving end as much. That said, the long term answer clearly has to be baked into the game via matchmaking, PVE options, corp battles, ect.

I'm not sure where you're getting your "observations" from....

We don't queue sync with Nyan San.

We don't queue sync much at all (it's literally been months since I've seen us do that, and we did it to practice intra squad tactics for PC).

If you don't like our proto suits (or those of us that run them), kill us enough to warrant stop using them.

Until then, you'll have to accept my apology for our killing you so much it warrants public QQ....or consider our squads a challenge to try to overcome....Leadfoot

I don't care for any of that, i just play casually that why i use proto because it is just the best stuff and i can do a lot more with it. If i wanted to go hardcore would i not just use standard suits and try to save ISK and camp. I don't care about ISK thats why i use proto.

I run basic suits in pubs and still role blueberries. I have a stupid amount of isk, have over 1000 proto suits stocked, if I want to run proto, why can't I? I have literally nothing else to spend isk on.

You guys are sending your hate for proto stomping the wrong way. Why hate a guy who spent months unlocking prototype gear just because he uses it? Its not my fault or anyone elses that CCP throws new players fresh out of the academy with 1500WP I believe to face veterans with 20+ million SP.

Also whats the point of being in a corp if you don't squad up with them? If my squadmates want to use proto its their choice they spent the time to unlock it and they take the risk of losing ISK running it. Why even unlock prototype if you have no intention of using it?

Your anger should be directed at CCPs lack of player separation.

If I could play in pub matches where everyone is using proto I would, unfortunately PC is the only place that exists. I have the luxury of being in a corp that is involved in PC but other don't.

If you're upset about the other team using proto then do the same, if proto is the only reason they are killing then you should have no problem killing them with it or just leave the battle and quit your btchin'

Not really, I rather enjoy running guerilla warfare against them. Its when I'm number one for my team with 200 wp that I realize just what these corps are doing to the game. Till match making is fixed players need to be for warned and armed, and fr those willing, to attempt to do something, or at least bring satisfaction to others wronged.