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devonus durga
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Posted - 2014.01.11 15:28:00 -
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This thread shall be used to publicly aknowledge the scions of no skill so that others might be aware of their actions, transgressions, and take appropriate action to either avoid or kill such members. Please be aware that all these groups commonly run with plentiful numbers of nanite injectors and that should you choose to engage them, it is recommended that you not only kill them, but make sure their non revivabke by headshotting them, blowing them to bits, or shooting their body after its down. I reccomend this to such an extent that you ignore their other near. Ye players to insure their 200k suit stays dead.
The best tactics for handling these corporations is to use a cheap disposable suit armed with remote explosives. With the exception of certain heavy builds, no proto suit can survive a remote, and they do not need to be double tapped. I personally reccomend a militia scout shotgunner build. Dampeners are useless as they regularly have at least one proto scanner available.
I encourage players to not associate with these players as they ruin the game and abuse the match making system. I have marked some as deserving of faction warfare team killing due to the unrepentant and abusive actions, and that perhaps some repercussions for said actions will at least give them pause before steam rolling some newberries and those less skilled/experienced.
Nyan San/chan: Well known proto stompers from japan. This corp is rarely found as an individual and is often squaded with a full squad of other proto sompers, usually from their own corp though known to squad and que syn with other known proto stomp corps. They are fond of using proto tanks with proto logo suit drivers who will hop out to repair their vehicle, allowing them to have more hardeners and damage mods then most proto tankers. They rarely role rail gun tanks but will often bring 3-4 proto blaster tanks to the field. When not using tank squads they will use the ,latest FoTM weapon, at this current time proto rail rifles, usually assault. Several of their members will also use core locus grenade spam so avoid bunching in groups, and remember that their blast radius is larger then other locus grenades. They are also well known users of the equipment lag glitch, however the recent patch seems to have fixed this to an extent. They will also commonly use cheap locations such as the mushroom top, or other unassaultable locations if the situation warrants. Most commonly found in ambush. Their actions warrant FW killing in my opinion
Molon labe: Another proto group, currently quite fond of rolling squads of proto tanks, all blaster as observed thus far. Not to be under estimated out of their tanks, and often found squaring with or que syncing with other proto corps, including nyan. They also have several associated groups that occasionally role with them, however rest assured if you see at least 3 of these members, they are most likely in a squad of 6, from composed of lesser known allied corps or other proto corps, and most likely all running proto gear. They will also use mlt tanks once any possible enemy tank threat has been neutralized, so if you want to hurt them the worst, kill their initial tanks if you can. They are also known to utilize assault dropships and it is not uncommon for them to field 2 or more if they do. Found in ambush and doms. Also warrants faction warfare team killing.
Ancient exiles: not as commonly found as the first two, squads and que syncing squads are still a regular occurance, and often consists of at least 1-2 tanks. Little other Intel is known of their tactics and associations with other corps, however they still pose a threat when found in public matches
Sver True blood: A large corp with many members, not all of whome proto stomp, however when found In A full squad of their own it is more or less gaurenteed to consist of all proto players. When found they do not utilize tanks as much as the others, however that does not mean they will not do so. Their corps proto players seem quite fond of HMGs and it is not uncommon to find 2 or more protons backed by logo support.
There are many many other corps in addition to these who engage in such actions, however these are the more common offenders. Other offending parties include
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I would offer isk bounties on these players however such is outside my budget at this time, if any body wishes to discuss become patron for such bounties however please message me in game. I will continue to update this as tactics, corps, and other information becomes available, and encourage players tobrag by provideing kill screens, information, and other such details pertaining to proto stompers.
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devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
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Posted - 2014.01.11 15:29:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
768
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Posted - 2014.01.11 15:30:00 -
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U mad bro?
That's "MR." Pothead to you.
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devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
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Posted - 2014.01.11 15:33:00 -
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Not really, I rather enjoy running guerilla warfare against them. Its when I'm number one for my team with 200 wp that I realize just what these corps are doing to the game. Till match making is fixed players need to be for warned and armed, and fr those willing, to attempt to do something, or at least bring satisfaction to others wronged. |
Ghosts Chance
Inf4m0us
768
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Posted - 2014.01.11 15:35:00 -
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the proto stomping nyans only do ambush and dom, so simply play scrim :P
melon lube arnt very good with the exception of their PC team wich also only plays ambush and dom so play scrim
ancient exiles dont have any glitches to exploit so they currently arnt a problem
STB was never all that great to begin with so i dont understand why people think they are... they hold districts in PC becuase they perma lock them not because they can actually keep them :P
"proto stomping" is unavoidable in a game where the entire endgame currently consists of getting proto gear and using it...
pointless thread is pointless, although i do awknowledge that it looks like you put some decent work into it, but unfortunatly this is general disscussion so its not going to survive long. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
3914
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Posted - 2014.01.11 15:38:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:the proto stomping nyans only do ambush and dom, so simply play scrim :P
melon lube arnt very good with the exception of their PC team wich also only plays ambush and dom so play scrim
ancient exiles dont have any glitches to exploit so they currently arnt a problem
STB was never all that great to begin with so i dont understand why people think they are... they hold districts in PC becuase they perma lock them not because they can actually keep them :P
"proto stomping" is unavoidable in a game where the entire endgame currently consists of getting proto gear and using it...
pointless thread is pointless, although i do awknowledge that it looks like you put some decent work into it, but unfortunatly this is general disscussion so its not going to survive long. You mad bro.
Perma locking isn't something we tend to do BTW.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 3
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Slim Winning
BIG BAD W0LVES
6
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Posted - 2014.01.11 15:47:00 -
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What about Imperfects? Just one of them can cause as much havock as a squad of the other guys. I get more concerned about just one Imperfect than a team of Nyain San. |
Earl E Bird
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2014.01.11 15:47:00 -
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Molon Labe? i played a fw game on there team yesterday, against a corp called "astroya guard" (or something simaler) most of molon labe finished at the bottom of the board, with the couple that did get some kills in the redline sniping, my 500sp charcater would have finished in 1st place for wp's except i went on a tk'ing spree on there snipers and lost my points, yeah, there not very good and would rather "attempt" to pad kd than pto
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
768
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Posted - 2014.01.11 15:49:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:Not really, I rather enjoy running guerilla warfare against them. Its when I'm number one for my team with 200 wp that I realize just what these corps are doing to the game. Till match making is fixed players need to be for warned and armed, and fr those willing, to attempt to do something, or at least bring satisfaction to others wronged. Its not proto players faults, its the fact that blueberries don't know how to aim, how to watch the radar, how to use basic tactics like cover & sticking together or flanking or when to use grenades, they don't know how to use scanners, uplinks, or nanohives, or how to call in vehicles. They are then using starter fits with 310EHP as well. These people are completely useless due to inexperience, and often less skill as well, the MLT gear being icing on the cake.
This isn't just dust, take a 6 man party into COD and watch how quickly you spawn trap teams and steamroll everyone.
In dust you're just playing a game with so few players that you're put up against the same seasoned veteran players using teamwork, tactics, and superior gear.
This is why you will sometimes see a team with no squads but they will still stomp the other team, simply because each player knows what he's doing, while the other team has the blueberries mentioned above.
That's "MR." Pothead to you.
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DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
9896
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Posted - 2014.01.11 15:52:00 -
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PvE solves proto stomping
PvPvE brings it back, but makes it cooler.
Assault Dropship Montage
Incubus Pilot, AV Specialist, Fat Scout DUST addict
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devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
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Posted - 2014.01.11 15:52:00 -
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Most of these corps are large, I'm not saying all their members are guilty, or a threat. However their corp is known to regularly proto stomp and que sync. I'm going to start paying more attention to individual members responsible, however their members are still guilty by association, and there for worthy of being shunned if not killed. Giving a pass to one just leads to giving them all a pass, when really all of them are guilty of either doing it or supporting it. |
devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
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Posted - 2014.01.11 15:59:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:devonus durga wrote:Not really, I rather enjoy running guerilla warfare against them. Its when I'm number one for my team with 200 wp that I realize just what these corps are doing to the game. Till match making is fixed players need to be for warned and armed, and fr those willing, to attempt to do something, or at least bring satisfaction to others wronged. Its not proto players faults, its the fact that blueberries don't know how to aim, how to watch the radar, how to use basic tactics like cover & sticking together or flanking or when to use grenades, they don't know how to use scanners, uplinks, or nanohives, or how to call in vehicles. They are then using starter fits with 310EHP as well. These people are completely useless due to inexperience, and often less skill as well, the MLT gear being icing on the cake. This isn't just dust, take a 6 man party into COD and watch how quickly you spawn trap teams and steamroll everyone. In dust you're just playing a game with so few players that you're put up against the same seasoned veteran players using teamwork, tactics, and superior gear. This is why you will sometimes see a team with no squads but they will still stomp the other team, simply because each player knows what he's doing, while the other team has the blueberries mentioned above.
So you would blame the baby for burning his hand in the fire place rather then the mother? No it is proto sompers faults, they role pubs for the sole satisfaction that it is mostly blueberries there, and some of them are just plain dirty about it. We can say its match making fault etc etc, but every one of these corps regularly que syncs as well, which abuses the system. You don't need 10-12 proto plays to win a pub, you need 10-12 proto players to STOMP a pub, with minimal risk to themselves. Its like pitting a team of NFL players against a jr high football team, its pointless. |
JP Acuna
EATMOD
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Posted - 2014.01.11 16:21:00 -
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Not sure about Ancient Exiles. They're actually very good, not always in big squads and often solo, still on the top of the killboard. I used to hate those guys before, but now i do respect them.
The rest are full plain stompers.
This should make you think again about wanting a way to queue multiple squads into the same game. That would be awful. |
devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
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Posted - 2014.01.11 16:30:00 -
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Exiles are not as guilty no, I rarely find them que syncing but occasionally they, and when they do, its all proto. I actually respect them, however I have also caught them using squads of proto tanks occasionally, which is as bad and op as a que sync, at least at this current build.
Regardless even one squad of proto is the to much unless against another squad of proto. I can regularly have a 3+ kdr against newberries running a basic assauult with a gek, running full proto in pub is just over kill.
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Your Absolut End
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
332
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Posted - 2014.01.11 16:34:00 -
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Ghosts Chance wrote:the proto stomping nyans only do ambush and dom, so simply play scrim :P
melon lube arnt very good with the exception of their PC team wich also only plays ambush and dom so play scrim
ancient exiles dont have any glitches to exploit so they currently arnt a problem
STB was never all that great to begin with so i dont understand why people think they are... they hold districts in PC becuase they perma lock them not because they can actually keep them :P
"proto stomping" is unavoidable in a game where the entire endgame currently consists of getting proto gear and using it...
pointless thread is pointless, although i do awknowledge that it looks like you put some decent work into it, but unfortunatly this is general disscussion so its not going to survive long.
Lol we never lock districts in STB.
Looks like you need a more reliable source for your infos. When I was in Neanderthal Nation wlocked our districts thats true, but that was in the period where we tried to stay on our own feet, in fact we had to because all the stb-butthurted corps tried to get some easy revenge.
Back to topic: I admit that I run proo in pubs at times, where else can I test fittings for serious PC work?
Funny how using good gear in this game is consodered bad, cant remember when I have ever seen a BF3/4 vet with the standard weapons
another one bites the Dust...
Born as Kameira, die as Kameira, my life for the Empress!
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pagl1u M
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.01.11 16:35:00 -
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Yes, they are good players that play all together with tactics and strategy. They so evil! |
devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
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Posted - 2014.01.11 16:39:00 -
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The two are incomparable. Except for weapons doing more damage, most fps you don't suddenly gain 800 more HP over what you started with by being a vet. And the damage increase is also a lot higher over the DMG increase from most fps games |
THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Nyain San Renegade Alliance
771
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Posted - 2014.01.11 16:42:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:devonus durga wrote:Not really, I rather enjoy running guerilla warfare against them. Its when I'm number one for my team with 200 wp that I realize just what these corps are doing to the game. Till match making is fixed players need to be for warned and armed, and fr those willing, to attempt to do something, or at least bring satisfaction to others wronged. Its not proto players faults, its the fact that blueberries don't know how to aim, how to watch the radar, how to use basic tactics like cover & sticking together or flanking or when to use grenades, they don't know how to use scanners, uplinks, or nanohives, or how to call in vehicles. They are then using starter fits with 310EHP as well. These people are completely useless due to inexperience, and often less skill as well, the MLT gear being icing on the cake. This isn't just dust, take a 6 man party into COD and watch how quickly you spawn trap teams and steamroll everyone. In dust you're just playing a game with so few players that you're put up against the same seasoned veteran players using teamwork, tactics, and superior gear. This is why you will sometimes see a team with no squads but they will still stomp the other team, simply because each player knows what he's doing, while the other team has the blueberries mentioned above. So you would blame the baby for burning his hand in the fire place rather then the mother? No it is proto sompers faults, they role pubs for the sole satisfaction that it is mostly blueberries there, and some of them are just plain dirty about it. We can say its match making fault etc etc, but every one of these corps regularly que syncs as well, which abuses the system. You don't need 10-12 proto plays to win a pub, you need 10-12 proto players to STOMP a pub, with minimal risk to themselves. Its like pitting a team of NFL players against a jr high football team, its pointless.
Blame the baby? No these are adults who are perfectly capable of aiming yet do not take the time and start b*tching because they're getting killed by players who DO take the time. And why run pubs? UHH IDK MAYBE ITS BECAUSE THATS THE ONLY MODE AVAILABLE? FW IS DEAD AND PC ISNT 24/7 DIPSH*T.
Also only scrubs quesync anymore, nyain san and AE never quesync, we sometimes get 7 or 8 nyains in a match because we like ambush and theres only 3 or so ambush's going on much of the time, we often fight each other because of it. But if you're mad because players who played for a year+ and accumulated the isk to run proto, and choose to be social while doing so, then you need HTFU and quit b*tching.
That's "MR." Pothead to you.
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Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
1848
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Posted - 2014.01.11 16:48:00 -
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Critical-Impact 100% of their members run proto.
Selling Templar BPO 300Mil
Earn 50Mil+ ISK in Dust
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devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
45
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Posted - 2014.01.11 16:53:00 -
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OK, no more acknowledging the proto defenders...
Oh and in regards to your reguary facing each other part? Yeah I know, I was in a match like that two days ago. Funny thing, it was a good match, both sides neck and neck..... and then around 20 clones left, our nyans suddenly dissapeared, all 5 of ya. Were still in match, ddidn't die most had no deaths, which was funny I thought, very few of the other nyans died either....
Regardless I made the mistake f trying to reason with you, no clue why. Your not going to admit your wrong or concede that you have to be cheap to pad your sp/kdr/isk/ego. |
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
3916
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Posted - 2014.01.11 16:55:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:devonus durga wrote:THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:devonus durga wrote:Not really, I rather enjoy running guerilla warfare against them. Its when I'm number one for my team with 200 wp that I realize just what these corps are doing to the game. Till match making is fixed players need to be for warned and armed, and fr those willing, to attempt to do something, or at least bring satisfaction to others wronged. Its not proto players faults, its the fact that blueberries don't know how to aim, how to watch the radar, how to use basic tactics like cover & sticking together or flanking or when to use grenades, they don't know how to use scanners, uplinks, or nanohives, or how to call in vehicles. They are then using starter fits with 310EHP as well. These people are completely useless due to inexperience, and often less skill as well, the MLT gear being icing on the cake. This isn't just dust, take a 6 man party into COD and watch how quickly you spawn trap teams and steamroll everyone. In dust you're just playing a game with so few players that you're put up against the same seasoned veteran players using teamwork, tactics, and superior gear. This is why you will sometimes see a team with no squads but they will still stomp the other team, simply because each player knows what he's doing, while the other team has the blueberries mentioned above. So you would blame the baby for burning his hand in the fire place rather then the mother? No it is proto sompers faults, they role pubs for the sole satisfaction that it is mostly blueberries there, and some of them are just plain dirty about it. We can say its match making fault etc etc, but every one of these corps regularly que syncs as well, which abuses the system. You don't need 10-12 proto plays to win a pub, you need 10-12 proto players to STOMP a pub, with minimal risk to themselves. Its like pitting a team of NFL players against a jr high football team, its pointless. Blame the baby? No these are adults who are perfectly capable of aiming yet do not take the time and start b*tching because they're getting killed by players who DO take the time. And why run pubs? UHH IDK MAYBE ITS BECAUSE THATS THE ONLY MODE AVAILABLE? FW IS DEAD AND PC ISNT 24/7 DIPSH*T. Also only scrubs quesync anymore, nyain san and AE never quesync, we sometimes get 7 or 8 nyains in a match because we like ambush and theres only 3 or so ambush's going on much of the time, we often fight each other because of it. But if you're mad because players who played for a year+ and accumulated the isk to run proto, and choose to be social while doing so, then you need HTFU and quit b*tching. QFT.
I like usung my PRO scout from time to time, I like squading with corp members.
The reason I see that many matches ends in a stomp is not the gear, it's the players, any squad that plays domination has seen it: Match goes south and suddenly there are only 6 guys trying to push the objective, if your team doesn't have the (metaphorical) balls to fight you WILL lose.
Winning against a PRO team in STD or ADV gear is very doable, hell my squad and I do it all the time, but it requires teamwork and tactics, if your team just up and gives up instead of fighting than they have no reason to *****.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 3
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Slim Winning
BIG BAD W0LVES
6
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Posted - 2014.01.11 16:55:00 -
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Its like gun control debate. Do you blame the gun or the person abusing it?
The broken match making is fact to vet players. A lot abuse it. Stacking against Caldari or Amarr is the player's fault. Stomping randoms with protogear is the player's fault. Tank rolling even after its apparent that the other team has no opposition is the player's fault.
As a Big Bad Wolf, we've had many comeback victories against top corps trying to abuse the system. Made Ancient Exiles back out of a match because they tried to roll us but we did it better.
Blew up 9 Nyain San tanks in a match once, all proto turrets and modules on Madrugars and Gunlogis. They still won by 5 clones, but it cost them millions.
I never understood wasting millions of ISK to win a pub. |
Viktor Hadah Jr
Critical-Impact
1848
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Posted - 2014.01.11 16:56:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:Regardless I made the mistake f trying to reason with you, no clue why. Your not going to admit your wrong or concede that you have to be cheap to pad your sp/kdr/isk/ego. I don't care for any of that, i just play casually that why i use proto because it is just the best stuff and i can do a lot more with it. If i wanted to go hardcore would i not just use standard suits and try to save ISK and camp. I don't care about ISK thats why i use proto.
Selling Templar BPO 300Mil
Earn 50Mil+ ISK in Dust
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DISGRUNTLEDev
Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance
278
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Posted - 2014.01.11 17:01:00 -
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I run basic suits in pubs and still role blueberries. I have a stupid amount of isk, have over 1000 proto suits stocked, if I want to run proto, why can't I? I have literally nothing else so spend isk on. |
pyramidhead 420
Carbon 7 CRONOS.
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Posted - 2014.01.11 17:04:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:Exiles are not as guilty no, I rarely find them que syncing but occasionally they, and when they do, its all proto. I actually respect them, however I have also caught them using squads of proto tanks occasionally, which is as bad and op as a que sync, at least at this current build.
Regardless even one squad of proto is the to much unless against another squad of proto. I can regularly have a 3+ kdr against newberries running a basic assauult with a gek, running full proto in pub is just over kill.
little timmy is tired of having his a$$ handed to him...awwe so cute. you're like a mad kid, stomping your feet. can you cry over this bowl please? so its easier to harvest your tears.
corp : pyramidhead
description: one man tear harvesting machine. commonly see wearing 1000 hp tank with legs, otherwise know as brick tanked, 33db amarr logi. consistently see carrying proto AR or assault rail rifle, assault smg, and a full set of medic gear in the 3x EQ slots.
if you see him, consider him OP and completely over confident. do not engage. all previous know engagements have resulted, in the stretching of noobs sphincters. please i repeat, unless you want to end up crying on the forums, like a little b!t*h, do not engage that little yellow triangle, in the top left |
stlcarlos989
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
919
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Posted - 2014.01.11 17:06:00 -
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You guys are sending your hate for proto stomping the wrong way. Why hate a guy who spent months unlocking prototype gear just because he uses it? Its not my fault or anyone elses that CCP throws new players fresh out of the academy with 1500WP I believe to face veterans with 20+ million SP.
Also whats the point of being in a corp if you don't squad up with them? If my squadmates want to use proto its their choice they spent the time to unlock it and they take the risk of losing ISK running it. Why even unlock prototype if you have no intention of using it?
Your anger should be directed at CCPs lack of player separation.
If I could play in pub matches where everyone is using proto I would, unfortunately PC is the only place that exists. I have the luxury of being in a corp that is involved in PC but other don't.
If you're upset about the other team using proto then do the same, if proto is the only reason they are killing then you should have no problem killing them or just leave the battle and quit your btchin'
STB Director, #1 in Warpoints E3 Closed Beta Build, Water Pipe Aficionado
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Galvan Nized
Deep Space Republic
516
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Posted - 2014.01.11 17:06:00 -
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This is truly a fault of matchmaking, why when you get a squad does it not try and pair you up against another squad? It just fills random matches.
At this point I think we should just bring back Corp Battles.
FW isn't a gamemode that will sustain itself, you just return to pubs later. There needs to be a switch to get paid in ISK or LP, with slightly higher ISK payouts in FW...paid out to the winner only.
PC is nice but not very well done. It's so limited that you only bring the A team, what about everyone else in that Corp? Plus with locking and other exploits it is more a pain than it's worth.
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devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
45
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Posted - 2014.01.11 17:06:00 -
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Viktor Hadah Jr wrote:devonus durga wrote:Regardless I made the mistake f trying to reason with you, no clue why. Your not going to admit your wrong or concede that you have to be cheap to pad your sp/kdr/isk/ego. I don't care for any of that, i just play casually that why i use proto because it is just the best stuff and i can do a lot more with it. If i wanted to go hardcore would i not just use standard suits and try to save ISK and camp. I don't care about ISK thats why i use proto.
I'm not saying running proto is bad, you worked hard put the time in got the gear, go ahead run it. Just don't feel the need to run with 5-10 other people all the time constantly. And I actually almost added your corp to the watch list lol.
Its not people running proto that ruins the game, its the peoplwho do it in such a way as take the fun out of it for everyone else in the match that does. |
Blaze Ashra
Ametat Security Amarr Empire
101
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Posted - 2014.01.11 17:13:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:Exiles are not as guilty no, I rarely find them que syncing but occasionally they, and when they do, its all proto. I actually respect them, however I have also caught them using squads of proto tanks occasionally, which is as bad and op as a que sync, at least at this current build.
Regardless even one squad of proto is the to much unless against another squad of proto. I can regularly have a 3+ kdr against newberries running a basic assauult with a gek, running full proto in pub is just over kill.
There is no proto tank at the moment. |
KryptixX
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
443
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Posted - 2014.01.11 17:17:00 -
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Slim Winning wrote:What about Imperfects? Just one of them can cause as much havock as a squad of the other guys. I get more concerned about just one Imperfect than a team of Nyain San. I'm basically a whole squad by myself. |
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