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Jenova Rhapsodos
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
95
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Posted - 2014.01.14 18:35:00 -
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I don't always protostomp
But when I do I make sure it's against the OP |
Atiim
Living Like Larry Schwag
3467
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Posted - 2014.01.14 18:40:00 -
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Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:I don't always protostomp
But when I do I make sure it's against the OP I don't always Thale.
But when I do I make sure it's against vets stomping rookies.
Atiim (Wyrikomi Swarm Launcher) Tank Spammer
Tank Spammer (Soma - MLT 80GJ Blaster) Atiim
And this is why I drink.
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Amarrgheddon
Warcaste
85
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Posted - 2014.01.14 19:04:00 -
[183] - Quote
I don't always play dust but when I do I quit halfway thru the first match. |
Kn1ght of Darknes
Nova Corps Marines Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
0
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Posted - 2014.01.14 22:38:00 -
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Amarrgheddon wrote:I don't always play dust but when I do I quit halfway thru the first match. I think this is quite possibly the most important post in this thread. If anyone here wants this game to survive past the PS3 (and they will shut servers down and move on to another console because you don't just upgrade consoles like PCs) then the game needs a sizable playerbase. I don't think there is a lot of hope for a game where something like this can be said AT ALL.
Just because CCP can do things to change this doesn't mean it'll happen fast. Coding is hard and takes a lot of time, especially with external factors to consider when doing it. So in the meantime it is up to the players themselves to make sure the game can thrive. We are the ones who ultimately decide whether DUST is a thing on the PS4 or PS5 even, or if it ends with the PS3. We cannot shirk our responsibility to the new players or to each other and to the game itself.
Also I really want Corp battles back. Those were really fun and a great outlet for all the pre-PC warmups or rivalry fights or a great way to host some more DUSTkart or other things like that that would add real diversity to this game. |
KenKaniff69
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
1870
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Posted - 2014.01.15 01:02:00 -
[185] - Quote
x
So about those vehicle locks...
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Kira Takizawa
2Shitz 1Giggle
90
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Posted - 2014.01.15 07:28:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Jenova Rhapsodos wrote:I don't always protostomp
But when I do I make sure it's against the OP I don't always Thale. But when I do I make sure it's against vets stomping rookies.
You too? Too bad I couldn't use them in the last match considering I was on my alt.. A.O.D and F.T.U proto frenzy :(
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Vanell Sin
Dust2Dust. Top Men.
32
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Posted - 2014.01.15 07:40:00 -
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The game gives them the option to wear proto suits and equipment so they do.
Its not that they do something wrong.
If you could afford it im sure you ll end up doing the same thing
Im playing since Uprising 1.0 and still have 8m SP.Im I doing something wrong?
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edguy 111
Quebec United
16
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Posted - 2014.01.15 07:48:00 -
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I have play with these corp a.e are not that bad some of them dont pub stomp.Molon labe are really good but are not proto stomper either they are just good lol (have get 7 ob with a molon labe squad once,two core focus rep tool,two heavy and 2 assault.We end up with over 3k wp each)XD
minmatar logi at is finest~~~~~~~Edguy Quebec United,Ceo
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Kira Takizawa
2Shitz 1Giggle
90
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Posted - 2014.01.15 07:50:00 -
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CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:Kira Takizawa wrote:J0hlss0n wrote:Well, if you see me on the other team in a pub match (or on your team), dont worry about me using proto, never go beyond advanced in pubs, that goes with modules/extenders etc also... with the exception of a proto forge on a advanced suit, that is needed in these days of tanks. =P If true you might be the only Molon with my respect I will back up Johlsson on this. He is a friend of mine and my corp. We squad up quite a bit when he has time and he NEVER runs proto. I appreciate these kind of players and keep trying to find more people I can look up to in this game. |
Kira Takizawa
2Shitz 1Giggle
90
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Posted - 2014.01.15 07:52:00 -
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Vanell Sin wrote:The game gives them the option to wear proto suits and equipment so they do.
Its not that they do something wrong.
If you could afford it im sure you ll end up doing the same thing
<----150m isk and not running proto... your logic invalid
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Kira Takizawa
2Shitz 1Giggle
90
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Posted - 2014.01.15 07:53:00 -
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edguy 111 wrote:I have play with these corp a.e are not that bad some of them dont pub stomp.Molon labe are really good but are not proto stomper either they are just good lol (have get 7 ob with a molon labe squad once,two core focus rep tool,two heavy and 2 assault.We end up with over 3k wp each)XD Most do proto stomp and that is an issue. |
Kira Takizawa
2Shitz 1Giggle
91
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Posted - 2014.01.15 08:00:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Bax Zanith wrote:Protos; put your isk where your mouth is.
Spend a day in full STD gear and tell me we're whining for nothing.
Almost at 12mill sp, and dust 514 has been the FPS equivelint of Dark Souls. I remember when all games used to have Dark Souls difficulty. And honestly, most who run proto can still give you a run for your money in STD gear. It might sound harsh but welcome to the brutality of New Eden. Start playing objective based games instead of always doing ambush. Objective based games increase your knowledge of strategy, which you can employ in Amb to a degree. MOST proto can't do anything in ADV/STD fittings and if they can it's due to dmg mods stacked to the heavens. >.> Welcome to the Proto/Tank/RR/CR 514 :D They shall harvest your tears! |
devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
89
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Posted - 2014.01.15 08:07:00 -
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Vanell Sin wrote:The game gives them the option to wear proto suits and equipment so they do.
Its not that they do something wrong.
If you could afford it im sure you ll end up doing the same thing
Technicly I have proto, I have about 20 full proto state suits, more if I sunk the lap into the modules I need. Just don't see a reason to bring them out since I average a 2-2.5 kdr when not getting stomped, and 800-1000 wp, which is all I need or want out of an ambush. And against proto stompers, my one suit isn't going to make a difference, just waste all those hours spent grinding out caldari LP.
Newbiest newberry to ever spawn a 10 page Debate
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Michael Arck
Onuoto Uakan Huogaatsu
2600
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Posted - 2014.01.15 08:16:00 -
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Kira Takizawa wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Bax Zanith wrote:Protos; put your isk where your mouth is.
Spend a day in full STD gear and tell me we're whining for nothing.
Almost at 12mill sp, and dust 514 has been the FPS equivelint of Dark Souls. I remember when all games used to have Dark Souls difficulty. And honestly, most who run proto can still give you a run for your money in STD gear. It might sound harsh but welcome to the brutality of New Eden. Start playing objective based games instead of always doing ambush. Objective based games increase your knowledge of strategy, which you can employ in Amb to a degree. MOST proto can't do anything in ADV/STD fittings and if they can it's due to dmg mods stacked to the heavens. >.> Welcome to the Proto/Tank/RR/CR 514 :D They shall harvest your tears!
So you're implying actual skill gained from the grueling and violent grind towards proto is all lost?
Hnolai ki tuul, ti sei oni a tiu.
For the State!!
[email protected]
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Kira Takizawa
2Shitz 1Giggle
91
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Posted - 2014.01.15 08:43:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Kira Takizawa wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Bax Zanith wrote:Protos; put your isk where your mouth is.
Spend a day in full STD gear and tell me we're whining for nothing.
Almost at 12mill sp, and dust 514 has been the FPS equivelint of Dark Souls. I remember when all games used to have Dark Souls difficulty. And honestly, most who run proto can still give you a run for your money in STD gear. It might sound harsh but welcome to the brutality of New Eden. Start playing objective based games instead of always doing ambush. Objective based games increase your knowledge of strategy, which you can employ in Amb to a degree. MOST proto can't do anything in ADV/STD fittings and if they can it's due to dmg mods stacked to the heavens. >.> Welcome to the Proto/Tank/RR/CR 514 :D They shall harvest your tears! So you're implying actual skill gained from the grueling and violent grind towards proto is all lost? Depending on the person. |
devonus durga
P.L.A.N. B
95
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Posted - 2014.01.15 09:25:00 -
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Kira Takizawa wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Kira Takizawa wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Bax Zanith wrote:Protos; put your isk where your mouth is.
Spend a day in full STD gear and tell me we're whining for nothing.
Almost at 12mill sp, and dust 514 has been the FPS equivelint of Dark Souls. I remember when all games used to have Dark Souls difficulty. And honestly, most who run proto can still give you a run for your money in STD gear. It might sound harsh but welcome to the brutality of New Eden. Start playing objective based games instead of always doing ambush. Objective based games increase your knowledge of strategy, which you can employ in Amb to a degree. MOST proto can't do anything in ADV/STD fittings and if they can it's due to dmg mods stacked to the heavens. >.> Welcome to the Proto/Tank/RR/CR 514 :D They shall harvest your tears! So you're implying actual skill gained from the grueling and violent grind towards proto is all lost? Depending on the person.
Proto tankers and ads tend to be rather entertaining and easy to kill if you catch them outside their vehicles (not saying all are). Some of them forget what its like not to have 4k+ armor and 2000dps canon.
Newbiest newberry to ever spawn a 10 page Debate
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CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
516
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Posted - 2014.01.16 17:03:00 -
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Vanell Sin wrote:The game gives them the option to wear proto suits and equipment so they do.
Its not that they do something wrong.
If you could afford it im sure you ll end up doing the same thing I have almost 35mil sp and a shite ton of isk. Proto in Minmatar, Caldari assault, working on Logi build. Yeah I can field proto till the cows come home, but, I don't. Why.
1) I can hold a positive K/D with BPO'S in pubs, "not that I give a shite about kd cause it means **** in this game. Unless you want into a corp with a kd requirement, which is ***** to start with".
2) I know what I can do in my chosen fits and enjoy the challenge of running basic and advanced gear, "yes me and my top squad can go 25/1, 25/3, whatever, all day long, but who am I really proving anything too? My squadmates who all know what we can do? We don't have to have that score on the leaderboard to make ourselves feel like we accomplished something.
3) We do a lot of training in our corp, it would be hypocritical to go into a pub and run proto when these players are here for help learning to combat these pricks that run it 24/7, 365.
4) I love taking down protostompers with a bpo suit, "that makes me feel accomplishment".
5) We got enough problems with the scrubs that tank spam right now, no need to add to the problems this game already has.
6) You put 75% of those guys in a basic fit against a truly skilled player in the same gear, they will lose.
CEO
Invictus Maneo~ "I remain unvanquished"
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Johnny Guilt
Algintal Core
433
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Posted - 2014.01.16 19:41:00 -
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The corps that own a whole planet worth of districts in in PC
A strange game.
The only winning move is
not to play.
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Kira Takizawa
2Shitz 1Giggle
92
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Posted - 2014.01.17 08:19:00 -
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CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:Vanell Sin wrote:The game gives them the option to wear proto suits and equipment so they do.
Its not that they do something wrong.
If you could afford it im sure you ll end up doing the same thing I have almost 35mil sp and a shite ton of isk. Proto in Minmatar, Caldari assault, working on Logi build. Yeah I can field proto till the cows come home, but, I don't. Why. 1) I can hold a positive K/D with BPO'S in pubs, "not that I give a shite about kd cause it means **** in this game. Unless you want into a corp with a kd requirement, which is ***** to start with". 2) I know what I can do in my chosen fits and enjoy the challenge of running basic and advanced gear, "yes me and my top squad can go 25/1, 25/3, whatever, all day long, but who am I really proving anything too? My squadmates who all know what we can do? We don't have to have that score on the leaderboard to make ourselves feel like we accomplished something. 3) We do a lot of training in our corp, it would be hypocritical to go into a pub and run proto when these players are here for help learning to combat these pricks that run it 24/7, 365. 4) I love taking down protostompers with a bpo suit, "that makes me feel accomplishment". 5) We got enough problems with the scrubs that tank spam right now, no need to add to the problems this game already has. 6) You put 75% of those guys in a basic fit against a truly skilled player in the same gear, they will lose. I love all of your points and your corp is pretty good for basic/adv users but some of them are a bit too cocky xD |
CYRAX SERVIUS
Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives
534
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Posted - 2014.01.17 14:43:00 -
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Kira Takizawa wrote:CYRAX SERVIUS wrote:Vanell Sin wrote:The game gives them the option to wear proto suits and equipment so they do.
Its not that they do something wrong.
If you could afford it im sure you ll end up doing the same thing I have almost 35mil sp and a shite ton of isk. Proto in Minmatar, Caldari assault, working on Logi build. Yeah I can field proto till the cows come home, but, I don't. Why. 1) I can hold a positive K/D with BPO'S in pubs, "not that I give a shite about kd cause it means **** in this game. Unless you want into a corp with a kd requirement, which is ***** to start with". 2) I know what I can do in my chosen fits and enjoy the challenge of running basic and advanced gear, "yes me and my top squad can go 25/1, 25/3, whatever, all day long, but who am I really proving anything too? My squadmates who all know what we can do? We don't have to have that score on the leaderboard to make ourselves feel like we accomplished something. 3) We do a lot of training in our corp, it would be hypocritical to go into a pub and run proto when these players are here for help learning to combat these pricks that run it 24/7, 365. 4) I love taking down protostompers with a bpo suit, "that makes me feel accomplishment". 5) We got enough problems with the scrubs that tank spam right now, no need to add to the problems this game already has. 6) You put 75% of those guys in a basic fit against a truly skilled player in the same gear, they will lose. I love all of your points and your corp is pretty good for basic/adv users but some of them are a bit too cocky xD There is a fine line between cockiness and confidence, don't be mistaken about our ability to perform in our top gear either. We have found by running and surviving in lower tier suits, when you do run the top gear, you are much more efficient and effective. And thank you for your compliment.
CEO
Invictus Maneo~ "I remain unvanquished"
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Asha Starwind
VEXALATION CORPORATION Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
164
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Posted - 2014.01.17 14:59:00 -
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Your Absolut End wrote:[quote=Ghosts Chance]
Funny how using good gear in this game is consodered bad, cant remember when I have ever seen a BF3/4 vet with the standard weapons
Really, dude? Closet Colonels are rampant. Hell, the phrase itself being coined is an indicator of how common it is. |
Charlotte O'Dell
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
1643
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Posted - 2014.01.17 16:43:00 -
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Fatal Absolution: They be OP and have lots of former bunnies.
Charlotte O'Dell is the highest level unicorn!
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Frost Kitty
Fatal Absolution Covert Intervention
33
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:20:00 -
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Charlotte O'Dell wrote:Fatal Absolution: They be OP and have lots of former bunnies. We're OP?
"If youGÇÖre not remembered, then you never existed."
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oso tiburon
G I A N T General Tso's Alliance
201
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Posted - 2014.01.17 17:39:00 -
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dem tears ...
say hello to my little friend
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Mathew LaBorde
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
41
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:01:00 -
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Slim Winning wrote:What about Imperfects? Just one of them can cause as much havock as a squad of the other guys. I get more concerned about just one Imperfect than a team of Nyain San. Good point but a little late. Imperfects split up a long time ago. |
Mathew LaBorde
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
41
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:02:00 -
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oso tiburon wrote:dem tears ... Well, I am getting pretty thirsty I guess |
Mathew LaBorde
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
41
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:13:00 -
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I can't say we run proto alot cuz we don't. Mostly basic and adv and we quesync to practice for PC if the event ever showed up. Also. Dust is a social game. I go to work for ten hour days and I like to co e home and talk to my friends and play games. The best way to do all that in o e sitting is to do it together in my opinion. |
RevoL Frog
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
257
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Posted - 2014.01.17 18:51:00 -
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Virtual Riot wrote:Can we add The Generals to this list?
I've be going against them in dominion all day today, games filled with massive tank spam and prototype gear
Redlined and slaughtered the blueberries had no chance, its sad and pathetic http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs
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John Demonsbane
Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy
1612
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:26:00 -
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Mathew LaBorde wrote:Slim Winning wrote:What about Imperfects? Just one of them can cause as much havock as a squad of the other guys. I get more concerned about just one Imperfect than a team of Nyain San. Good point but a little late. Imperfects split up a long time ago.
???
ReGnYuM and Alldin Kan (and a couple others) might disagree. There's only a few but they certainly can wreak havok all by their lonesomes.
"The line between disorder and order lies in logistics" -Sun Tzu
Amarr victor!
Forum Warrior lv.1
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MOOSEON THE LOOSE
The Generals General Tso's Alliance
2
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Posted - 2014.01.17 21:31:00 -
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devonus durga wrote:This thread shall be used to publicly aknowledge the scions of no skill so that others might be aware of their actions, transgressions, and take appropriate action to either avoid or kill such members. Please be aware that all these groups commonly run with plentiful numbers of nanite injectors and that should you choose to engage them, it is recommended that you not only kill them, but make sure their non revivabke by headshotting them, blowing them to bits, or shooting their body after its down. I reccomend this to such an extent that you ignore their other near by players to insure their 200k suit stays dead.
The best tactics for handling these corporations is to use a cheap disposable suit armed with remote explosives. With the exception of certain heavy builds, no proto suit can survive a remote, and they do not need to be double tapped. I personally reccomend a militia scout shotgunner build. Dampeners are useless as they regularly have at least one proto scanner available.
I encourage players to not associate with these players as they ruin the game and abuse the match making system. I have marked some as deserving of faction warfare team killing due to the unrepentant and abusive actions, and that perhaps some repercussions for said actions will at least give them pause before steam rolling some newberries and those less skilled/experienced.
Nyan San/chan: Well known proto stompers from japan. This corp is rarely found as an individual and is often squaded with a full squad of other proto sompers, usually from their own corp though known to squad and que syn with other known proto stomp corps. They are fond of using proto tanks with proto logo suit drivers who will hop out to repair their vehicle, allowing them to have more hardeners and damage mods then most proto tankers. They rarely role rail gun tanks but will often bring 3-4 proto blaster tanks to the field. When not using tank squads they will use the ,latest FoTM weapon, at this current time proto rail rifles, usually assault. Several of their members will also use core locus grenade spam so avoid bunching in groups, and remember that their blast radius is larger then other locus grenades. They are also well known users of the equipment lag glitch, however the recent patch seems to have fixed this to an extent. They will also commonly use cheap locations such as the mushroom top, or other unassaultable locations if the situation warrants. Most commonly found in ambush. Their actions warrant FW killing in my opin
Ancient exiles: not as commonly found as the first two, squads and que syncing squads are still a regular occurance, and often consists of at least 1-2 tanks. Little other Intel is known of their tactics and associations with other corps, however they still pose a threat when found in public matches
Sver True blood: A large corp with many members, not all of whome proto stomp, however when found In A full squad of their own it is more or less gaurenteed to consist of all proto players. When found they do not utilize tanks as much as the others, however that does not mean they will not do so. Their corps proto players seem quite fond of HMGs and it is not uncommon to find 2 or more protons backed by logo support.
There are many many other corps in addition to these who engage in such actions, usually less often then the above mentioned corps. Should thier threat to amush become more common tactics and information may becoeme available. Other offending parties include
Molon Labe (removed from main list due to some of their members willingness to talk, majority of members seem not to abuse the system however may occasionally end in protostomping due to the coincidences of matchmaking) War ravens (may warrant upgrading pending further information. Duma corp (rarely found but tank spams when encountered) Rainbow effect (rarely encountered but a threat when found) Generals (accused but uncomfirmed)
I would offer isk bounties on these players however such is outside my budget at this time, if any body wishes to discuss become patron for such bounties however please message me in game. I will continue to update this as tactics, corps, and other information becomes available, and encourage players tobrag by provideing kill screens, information, and other such details pertaining to proto stompers.
Fuckin QQ more I run proto if I want. I spent my time as a blueberry and now I can spend my time as a proto stomper. People who don't understand dust is a team game and they run around like Rambo and expect to get 30-0 right off the start are ridiculous. UPGRADE THE GENERALS the guys that I play with from there run proto 90% of the time and we que sync full teams for TEAM PRACTICE. man scrubberries are just getting worse and worse. |
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