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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.01.14 06:56:00 -
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Bax Zanith wrote:Protos; put your isk where your mouth is.
Spend a day in full STD gear and tell me we're whining for nothing.
Almost at 12mill sp, and dust 514 has been the FPS equivelint of Dark Souls.
I remember when all games used to have Dark Souls difficulty.
And honestly, most who run proto can still give you a run for your money in STD gear. It might sound harsh but welcome to the brutality of New Eden. Start playing objective based games instead of always doing ambush. Objective based games increase your knowledge of strategy, which you can employ in Amb to a degree.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.01.14 07:17:00 -
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8213 wrote:Protostompers and PC Corps are usually one in the same.
PC funds this practice. Best scenario is Nyain San. Their districts stay locked and have the sole purpose of funding their protostomping in pubs. They are a DUST 514 cancer.
Normally, if Im on a losing PC battle I lose 1/2mil ISK in suites(except last week I broke a record and lost 2mil). To make up those loses I turn to pubs. I don't use blacksuits in pubs unless its a special circumstance.
Its basically 2 seperate worlds clashing. PC vs Pubs... Its easy to get spoiled by top gear in pubs, because you can single handed crush a team unlike what you can do in PC on a regular basis.
Its wrong to do and its hurting the game. I know for a fact certian players want to ride this game into death so they can stay on top forever.
Its also hard to balance gear with PC and Pubs in mind. Take the Amarr Assault bonus. The SCR doesn't need a slower heat build up in pub matches, but in PC its 100% necessary.
I was agreeing until you said they are a cancer. It is my belief if it was cubs or any of the "elites" doing so, you guys wouldn't say much and just go along.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.01.15 08:16:00 -
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Kira Takizawa wrote:Michael Arck wrote:Bax Zanith wrote:Protos; put your isk where your mouth is.
Spend a day in full STD gear and tell me we're whining for nothing.
Almost at 12mill sp, and dust 514 has been the FPS equivelint of Dark Souls. I remember when all games used to have Dark Souls difficulty. And honestly, most who run proto can still give you a run for your money in STD gear. It might sound harsh but welcome to the brutality of New Eden. Start playing objective based games instead of always doing ambush. Objective based games increase your knowledge of strategy, which you can employ in Amb to a degree. MOST proto can't do anything in ADV/STD fittings and if they can it's due to dmg mods stacked to the heavens. >.> Welcome to the Proto/Tank/RR/CR 514 :D They shall harvest your tears!
So you're implying actual skill gained from the grueling and violent grind towards proto is all lost?
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.01.24 09:57:00 -
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It's stupid. These gamers don't accept the challenge and work to get better with the understanding that every loss could be a key to victory. They cry and want the game changed around them.
It's like a sword. Before the blade is sharp and deadly, the metal must first be bathed in fire, beaten and folded many times over before it becomes a deadly weapon.
How these new gamers entering New Eden don't understand this is beyond me. I'm just glad that's not me.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.01.24 10:02:00 -
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No you are creating soft minded mercenaries. That is a cancer. There are many people here who got the welcome to new eden butt whoopings when they first arrived, me included. Yet, we kept pushing on to becoming better.
HTFU
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.01.24 10:17:00 -
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ANON Cerberus wrote:Michael Arck wrote:No you are creating soft minded mercenaries. That is a cancer. There are many people here who got the welcome to new eden butt whoopings when they first arrived, me included. Yet, we kept pushing on to becoming better.
HTFU That type of mind set is why this game has not attracted or kept a lot of players. Keep that up and there will only be the proto pc corps left. Come on people are already unhappy that PC is basically the same few faces. Do you want new competition to grow or do you want them to get pissed off with the game before they even get their foot in the door so to speak?
That mindset is not on the cover or description info of this game, so just what the heck are you talking about? What keeps people from coming back here are folks who think like you who can't handle defeat or try to learn from it. Basically charmin soft players.
Like I said, I got my ass kicked when I first arrived here too. You new guys aren't the only ones to face an uphill battle arriving in New Eden.
New competition will grow when you blueberries start getting better.
Just use your brain for a bit. Just for a little bit. Yes, the situation is rough. But to think, if you challenge yourself. Again, if you challenge yourself and go head to head against the protos. If you attempted; can you imagine what you will learn that will stick with you throughout your mercenary career? You will learn how to use cover better because damn those protos can kill quick. You will learn about evasive maneuvers because you had to run your metal butt out of situations. You will learn how to attack, when to attack and when not to. Your aim will get better since every bullet counted against protos.
That's looking at it objectively instead looking at the immediate and saying "oh man, I can't do this because of protostompers"
Also, prototypes isn't the problem here. Most can get out of a prototype suit and just embarrass you with militia fits. Because its about skill, not about the suit. And when you start killing rookie prototype players who don't know that, you will understand. I've killed protos who thought because they are in a proto, they shouldn't fall to a lesser suit.
In all the years I have followed EVE Online stories and Dust 514, New Eden has never been a place of mercy or grace. You either sink or swim. This is why you have met such fierce competitors on the battlefield. Because they didn't think like you and the OP did. They took to their rifles and got better, which made them fierce.
A man who weathers the storm appreciates the sunshine but no longer fears the storm for he has become one himself
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.01.24 10:19:00 -
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KGB Sleep wrote:ANON Cerberus wrote:Michael Arck wrote:No you are creating soft minded mercenaries. That is a cancer. There are many people here who got the welcome to new eden butt whoopings when they first arrived, me included. Yet, we kept pushing on to becoming better.
HTFU That type of mind set is why this game has not attracted or kept a lot of players. Keep that up and there will only be the proto pc corps left. Come on people are already unhappy that PC is basically the same few faces. Do you want new competition to grow or do you want them to get pissed off with the game before they even get their foot in the door so to speak? This game needs to be marketed as a hard mode FPS similar to the way Demon and Dark Souls is referred to. That way people immediately expect it to be hard and don't cry about it. It needs a disclaimer. WARNING: You should bring a bag to retrieve your prolapsed anus.
ROFL!! +1
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