Like I said any good tanker would have the whole squad killed before they get into AV grenade range. That is unless the tanker is stupid enough to go into a city (?Which only two or three sockets have)

FW anti tank trap

4x proxies and 4x remotes

thats more than 12000 damage. if its not a brick tanked proto gunnlogi with 2 hardeners running its DEAD instantly

sow aht your saying is you can negate a tank without any AV whatsoever just by holding HALF THE DAMN MAP


best anti tank solution EVER, IGNORE THE DAMN THING it cant shoot you in the city, then win because you hold 3/5 objectives.

That is if you get all of them to actually hit the tanks and if the tanker is stupid and can't hear the beeping from proxy mines (which is pretty easy to hear). Also that only works if the tankers resist are down which to trap a tank with resists down is not very easy at all. (Which goes back to risk vs reward)

There are only two sockets with cities that tanks can't navigate easily out of the what like 15 others. So I can only do that what like a third of the time if that even.

I did by using a militia tank. Lot more effective then proto swarms with prof 4 and three complex damage mods. Also did you not read the rest of my post?

i can do it in EVERY city.... now what? hell i can do it only EVERY map that isnt manuous peak.

Kill a good tanker with that method not one of the scrub FOTM tankers. Also proof or GTFO

i get them all to hit the tank... its called learning how to set them down properly.

i get them to run over them... its called hiding them and positioning them in optimal locations aka escape routes and entrances.

those 300mph tanks dont stop so quickly :P

and it works on EVERY tank reguardless of resists EXCEPT for a single tank build that requires about 5+ mil SP into it.

aka gunnlogi with complex extender and 2 hardeners, and BOTH hardeners have to be running at the time.


i get 2+ kills with those traps a game in FW

did you just ask me to kill a good tanker by ignoring it?

I can roll over proxy mines with my afterburner before they can even blow up. Also they stop pretty quickly. Quickly enough for someone who actually pays attention to his surroundings and listens for certain sounds (Such as swarms being fired or PROXY MINES BEEPING)

Sorry quoted the wrong post. Also if you can ignore tankers on every map except for manus peak then why would you have to use AV at all. Why not just leave the tankers alone instead of trying to kill them with remotes and proxy mines since they obviously aren't bothering you at all.

heres another trade secret, you can place them in such a way that the proxies are futherst away and the REs are closest, alowing you to detonate and cause a chain reaction dealing damage to the tank from the range of that beeping noise :P

meaning if they hear it... its too late.

proxies in a U shape with remotes in a line from the U almost like a rounded arrow

That sounds like a lot of work for very little reward. I'd rather call a tank in and destroy 3 before you even destroy 1.

And nobody wants to actually fullfill the role.


now that being infantry AV is more then just a swap at a supply depot and intakill your problem type of job, nobody wants to actually fill the role as a dedicated tank hunter.

its not like infantry AV doesnt do the job, in skilled hands it even kills tanks solo, both as heavys with forge guns, and infantry with swarms and PLCs.

the problem isnt that these things dont work, they do. the problem is that nobody wants to sit around as AV infantry all game, nobody wants to fill that role. and the team that DOESNT fill that role is going to get a whole lot of tanks on their doorstep.



its not that tanks are OP, its that players arnt adapting into nessesary roles. everyone wants to play that slayer assault suit, or that brawler tank.


pub matches have degraded into pure kill farming, objectives being secondary used as a means to an end.


the game doesnt work like that guys, if you want to win, the team as a whole is going to have to bring the tools nessesary to win, if nobody brings those tools then you dont win its simple.



remember when murder taxi was at an all time high and each and every single foot soldier started equiping AV nades to deal with it? notice how its now tanks doing the same thing but now infantry isnt even bothering with the AV nades?


its not like 6 people with AV nades cant mess up a tank, its likely it will maim and or destroy it nearly instantly and if an entaire team swaped out to AV nades a tank would think twice before driving into the middle of an objective.






its not that rock is OP, its that nobody wants to play paper and everyone wants to play scizors and rock.

do you have friends? are you in a squad? are the helping you and vice versa?


a squad with AV nades and fluxes with a dedicated swarmer/ PLC guy has absolutly ZERO fear of tanks, its almost laughable how easily most of the tankers are to destroy, and the experianced onces are forced to leave yoru squad alone. yah maybe one or two of you will fall, but that guy in a tank isnt going to be acomplishing much around you guys

it takes 20 seconds to set up... and a fraction of a second to detonate.... you wait longer for your RDV to show up then i take on my trap

AV may not fear tanks but they do fear infantry. A squad of AV is easy to clean up with a rail rifle.

But then you have to wait for a tank while I'm going to the tank and destroying it. Then I can continually use the tank until it is destroyed or I recall while you have to have nanohives (Which take time to refill and explosives eat through them fast) or run to a supply depot to refill.

im either defending the objecive in LOS to it or i leave it to detonate itself.
in fac war the proxes trigger the remotes, as well as the remotes triggering the proxes.

so you can either use manual LOS defence
or automatic explosive modes if you have to cover a secondary objective.

Oh and can you tell me why I would use AV when it is less effective and gets less reward over time (Since tanks can kill vehicles 3x faster then infantry AV can. Oh and tanks are still very effective against infantry still while someone with swarms is limited to a sidearm)

yes, because my paper comes in the form of a whole squad.... without diminishing its AI capabilities


6 man squad with AVs and fluxes with a SINGLE av guy in the mix and you NEVER have to worry about tanks again, not only that but you dont have to get into a tank if you dont want to, and you get to run on the gorund shooting people in the face all you want uninterupted by vehicles.


thats what everyones bitching about wanting isnt it? to run around as infantry and not ahve to worry about a tank owning you unmolested?


im literally handing the solution to everyone on a silver platter, a solution that bends to everyones collective will of

"i dont want to run around hunting tanks all game"
"i dont want to run a tank"
"i want to destroy tanks easily"
"i want to just run around shooting infantry"


the solution is RUN IN A DAMN SQUAD WIITH A SINGLE AV GUY, the collective action of a squad with AV nades and fluxes alone is deadly to a tank, adding the AV guy in there is just the icing.

So you answered my question 'Can you honestly say that AV is better at destroying a tank than another tank is?' by saying that six AVers (AV grenade=AV) are better than one tank at anti-tank. You should try a career in politics.

The way I remember rock-paper-scissors, one paper would beat one rock. So let's try again.

Is one AV better at taking out a tank than one tank?

Or if you prefer, you can answer this one: What has a better chance of taking out a convoy of six tanks - six tanks or six AVers?

AV nades a dedicated AV class does not make.

your point is now invalid.

6 tanks arnt fitting into the city at the same time, and in the city they cant cover each other due to LOS... so the 6 man squad wins there too.

also your an idiot, this isnt a solo game.

Who said anything about this being a solo game? I even asked you what's better at anti-tank, six tanks or six AV. Not only are you unable to give a straight answer to simple questions, you can't even read. You just went FR.