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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:53:00 -
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The 1.7 patch is not a week old, and very few of them are happy with it.
Guess what... these are the results of you constantly complaining about tanks. Now they're better, and all of you are still trying to use AV to destroy us. Well, now CCP made it so the best counter to a tank is another one. See a Madrugar with a blaster ruining infantry? Have someone call in a Gunnlogi with a missile turret. See a Gunnlogi with a blaster ruining infantry? Call in a tank with a railgun to destroy it.
What's so hard about rolling with a competent tanker? I want someone to explain that to me. Why is that so hard?
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
3224
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:55:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:The 1.7 patch is not a week old, and very few of them are happy with it.
Guess what... these are the results of you constantly complaining about tanks. Now they're better, and all of you are still trying to use AV to destroy us. Well, now CCP made it so the best counter to a tank is another one. See a Madrugar with a blaster ruining infantry? Have someone call in a Gunnlogi with a missile turret. See a Gunnlogi with a blaster ruining infantry? Call in a tank with a railgun to destroy it.
What's so hard about rolling with a competent tanker? I want someone to explain that to me. Why is that so hard?
ITs not so hard. But its wrong to HAVE to play with a tanker in order to have a Chance.Its not balance. Its stupid.
like this thread.
AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood Public Disorder.
3169
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:55:00 -
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*Comes in tread to have a logical conversation*
*Sees the guy who was complaining about proximity mines*
*Leaves thread*
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 3
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
3224
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:55:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:*Comes in tread to have a logical conversation*
*Sees the guy who was complaining about proximity mines*
*Leaves thread*
+1
Spkr4theDead: your credibility is rapidly going down the sewer...
AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
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Mortedeamor
WASTELAND JUNK REMOVAL Top Men.
1006
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:57:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:The 1.7 patch is not a week old, and very few of them are happy with it.
Guess what... these are the results of you constantly complaining about tanks. Now they're better, and all of you are still trying to use AV to destroy us. Well, now CCP made it so the best counter to a tank is another one. See a Madrugar with a blaster ruining infantry? Have someone call in a Gunnlogi with a missile turret. See a Gunnlogi with a blaster ruining infantry? Call in a tank with a railgun to destroy it.
What's so hard about rolling with a competent tanker? I want someone to explain that to me. Why is that so hard? nothing absolutely nothing |
True Adamance
Scions of Athra
4914
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:58:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:The 1.7 patch is not a week old, and very few of them are happy with it.
Guess what... these are the results of you constantly complaining about tanks. Now they're better, and all of you are still trying to use AV to destroy us. Well, now CCP made it so the best counter to a tank is another one. See a Madrugar with a blaster ruining infantry? Have someone call in a Gunnlogi with a missile turret. See a Gunnlogi with a blaster ruining infantry? Call in a tank with a railgun to destroy it.
What's so hard about rolling with a competent tanker? I want someone to explain that to me. Why is that so hard? ITs not so hard. But its wrong to HAVE to play with a tanker in order to have a Chance.Its not balance. Its stupid.like this thread.
Sure its balance.
I have a tanker.....so you must have a tanker.
"Shudder. Again another smart idea from an Amarr..."- Forlorn Destrier (11/12/13) LAWL
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1486
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Posted - 2013.12.16 02:59:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:The 1.7 patch is not a week old, and very few of them are happy with it.
Guess what... these are the results of you constantly complaining about tanks. Now they're better, and all of you are still trying to use AV to destroy us. Well, now CCP made it so the best counter to a tank is another one. See a Madrugar with a blaster ruining infantry? Have someone call in a Gunnlogi with a missile turret. See a Gunnlogi with a blaster ruining infantry? Call in a tank with a railgun to destroy it.
What's so hard about rolling with a competent tanker? I want someone to explain that to me. Why is that so hard? ITs not so hard. But its wrong to HAVE to play with a tanker in order to have a Chance.Its not balance. Its stupid.like this thread. You're not explaining yourself. I asked for an explanation. Why is wrong to squad with a tanker?
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1486
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:00:00 -
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Sinboto Simmons wrote:*Comes in tread to have a logical conversation*
*Sees the guy who was complaining about proximity mines*
*Leaves thread* They're remote explosives, and they also detonate if a friendly tank rolls over them. Therefore, it's a bug, and should be fixed.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1486
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:00:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:*Comes in tread to have a logical conversation*
*Sees the guy who was complaining about proximity mines*
*Leaves thread* +1 Spkr4theDead: your credibility is rapidly going down the sewer... I'm the one that offers logical explanations. You can't even tell me why it's wrong or difficult to squad with a tanker.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
1328
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:01:00 -
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This a FPS game. When you say you need one weapon to counter the other its called... wait for it... no, you know the word for it. Cause your not dumb. You yourself can see what your asking.
infantry wanted a cod? no. BF by far holds the belt for HAV and AV balance. (even in it's current state) Maybe one or two guys can wreck a tank there. But guess what? by the time that tank is put down he would have taken 10 blokes with him.
What does AV mean? The letters? When was it design as a deterrent? My question to you is why do you want it to be just a deterrent?
I wanted tanks cheap. I didn't care if they were many on the field, cause of it. But I never asked for my FPS comrades to be obliterated from no gun skill nerds who dust is there first FPS game. |
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
3227
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:01:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:The 1.7 patch is not a week old, and very few of them are happy with it.
Guess what... these are the results of you constantly complaining about tanks. Now they're better, and all of you are still trying to use AV to destroy us. Well, now CCP made it so the best counter to a tank is another one. See a Madrugar with a blaster ruining infantry? Have someone call in a Gunnlogi with a missile turret. See a Gunnlogi with a blaster ruining infantry? Call in a tank with a railgun to destroy it.
What's so hard about rolling with a competent tanker? I want someone to explain that to me. Why is that so hard? ITs not so hard. But its wrong to HAVE to play with a tanker in order to have a Chance.Its not balance. Its stupid.like this thread. You're not explaining yourself. I asked for an explanation. Why is wrong to squad with a tanker?
there is nothing wrong. BUT WHAT IF I CANNOT squad with a tanker said day. The only tanker i know that would play with me is TRUE ADAMANCE. If hes not connected , then i have to suck it up and NOT play? Or play and get butt plugged without counter? Or i have to deploy a tank to be able to actually compete?
THIS IS YOUR REASONING?
Because if it is its really flawed.
EDIT: ''You're not explaining yourself. I asked for an explanation. Why is wrong to squad with a tanker?''
Im sorry i took 2 minutes in answer you princess. next time i'll be hitting F5 repeatedly until i spot one of your answers to intermediately respond and explain to you, because you are worth all of my time....
( -.- ) ..I..
AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
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THUNDERGROOVE
ZionTCD Public Disorder.
402
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:03:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:*Comes in tread to have a logical conversation*
*Sees the guy who was complaining about proximity mines*
*Leaves thread* +1 Spkr4theDead: your credibility is rapidly going down the sewer... I'm the one that offers logical explanations. You can't even tell me why it's wrong or difficult to squad with a tanker.
This, even if it's some scrub with militia tanks. At least their tankers will be too busy steamrolling him then your infantry,
ZionTCD Director & Ammar Loyalist
Amarr Sentinel | Amarr Logi | Losematar Scout
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1486
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:04:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:This a FPS game. When you say you need one weapon to counter the other its called... wait for it... no, you know the word for it. Cause your not dumb. You yourself can see what your asking.
infantry wanted a cod? no. BF by far holds the belt for HAV and AV balance. (even in it's current state) Maybe one or two guys can wreck a tank there. But guess what? by the time that tank is put down he would have taken 10 blokes with him.
What does AV mean? The letters? When was it design as a deterrent? My question to you is why do you want it to be just a deterrent?
I wanted tanks cheap. I didn't care if they were many on the field, cause of it. But I never asked for my FPS comrades to be obliterated from no gun skill nerds who dust is there first FPS game. To you, FPS means no vehicles.
Did you ever think that some of us have a long history of gaming? I was playing shooters before they were brought online. I first learned how to handle vehicles in SOCOM III. Dust is most certainly NOT my first shooter.
If you don't like vehicles that much, maybe you should go to Call of Duty instead of ruining the game for an entire style of play just because you don't like them.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1486
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:05:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote:The 1.7 patch is not a week old, and very few of them are happy with it.
Guess what... these are the results of you constantly complaining about tanks. Now they're better, and all of you are still trying to use AV to destroy us. Well, now CCP made it so the best counter to a tank is another one. See a Madrugar with a blaster ruining infantry? Have someone call in a Gunnlogi with a missile turret. See a Gunnlogi with a blaster ruining infantry? Call in a tank with a railgun to destroy it.
What's so hard about rolling with a competent tanker? I want someone to explain that to me. Why is that so hard? ITs not so hard. But its wrong to HAVE to play with a tanker in order to have a Chance.Its not balance. Its stupid.like this thread. You're not explaining yourself. I asked for an explanation. Why is wrong to squad with a tanker? there is nothing wrong. BUT WHAT IF I CANNOT squad with a tanker said day. The only tanker i know that would play with me is TRUE ADAMANCE. If hes not connected , then i have to suck it up and NOT play? Or play and get butt plugged without counter? Or i have to deploy a tank to be able to actually compete?
THIS IS YOUR REASONING?Because if it is its really flawed. So the game should balanced on whether or not someone already knows a tanker?
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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ReGnYuM
Imperfects
1499
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:05:00 -
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Tanker mentality is the reason why you don't let tankers balance gameplay.
Especially Spkr threads.... *Regnum cringes
If you never heard of ReGnYuM, you're neither Good or Relevant in Dust 514.
KDR>ALL
Sig Move: Minmatar Crub Stomp
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
1663
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:06:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:This a FPS game. When you say you need one weapon to counter the other its called... wait for it... no, you know the word for it. Cause your not dumb. You yourself can see what your asking.
infantry wanted a cod? no. BF by far holds the belt for HAV and AV balance. (even in it's current state) Maybe one or two guys can wreck a tank there. But guess what? by the time that tank is put down he would have taken 10 blokes with him.
What does AV mean? The letters? When was it design as a deterrent? My question to you is why do you want it to be just a deterrent?
I wanted tanks cheap. I didn't care if they were many on the field, cause of it. But I never asked for my FPS comrades to be obliterated from no gun skill nerds who dust is there first FPS game. Because tanks in bf4 are freeeeeeeeee, therefore it doesn't matter if one looses 7 of them in one game
Going to stay out of AV/V debates, better for my sanity.
G˙åTank driverG˙å
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Keri Starlight
0uter.Heaven Proficiency V.
1932
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:06:00 -
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Spkr, it's not about having a good tanker in your squad all the time, which is already limiting and frustrating.
When you run into 6 enemy tanks you might take down 1 or 2 of them if they are dumb and spread too much, but you're not going to win by yourself.
I drive tanks, by the way.
"I load my gun with love instead of bullets"
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Thumb Green
Novashift
569
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:07:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:*Comes in tread to have a logical conversation*
*Sees the guy who was complaining about proximity mines*
*Leaves thread* +1 Spkr4theDead: your credibility is rapidly going down the sewer...
....Uhm.... What credibility?
Never mind the president, let's overgrow the government.
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Flix Keptick
Red Star. EoN.
1663
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:08:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Tanker mentality is the reason why you don't let tankers balance gameplay.
Especially Spkr threads.... *Regnum cringes Because infantry with OP rifles is better? Or maybe it's just all the other weapons that are up?
Going to stay out of AV/V debates, better for my sanity.
G˙åTank driverG˙å
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
3227
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:08:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote: So the game should balanced on whether or not someone already knows a tanker?
Well thats what you are saying! = Have a tank on your team or you cant win.
AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1486
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:08:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:Tanker mentality is the reason why you don't let tankers balance gameplay.
Especially Spkr threads.... *Regnum cringes Letting infantry dictate balance resulted in tanks being nerfed what, 5 or 6 builds in a row?
CCP for the first time nerfs AV and to infantry, the game is broken. Tankers have the tank battles of Chromosome back, but that's not fair, because infantry is supposed to do everything.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
299
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:09:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:*Comes in tread to have a logical conversation*
*Sees the guy who was complaining about proximity mines*
*Leaves thread* +1 Spkr4theDead: your credibility is rapidly going down the sewer...
You lost me bro, what credibility? Lol |
Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1486
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:09:00 -
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Keri Starlight wrote:Spkr, it's not about having a good tanker in your squad all the time, which is already limiting and frustrating.
When you run into 6 enemy tanks you might take down 1 or 2 of them if they are dumb and spread too much, but you're not going to win by yourself.
I drive tanks, by the way. LOL If you drive tanks and you can only take down so few, you're obviously doing it wrong.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
3230
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:10:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote: Because tanks in bf4 are freeeeeeeeee, therefore it doesn't matter if one looses 7 of them in one game
Again , my MLT tanks are cheaper than my Dropsuits.and 100% more effective in everything but capping points. After 1.7, please dont use the ISK argument. Its ridiculous.....
AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1486
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:10:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Sinboto Simmons wrote:*Comes in tread to have a logical conversation*
*Sees the guy who was complaining about proximity mines*
*Leaves thread* +1 Spkr4theDead: your credibility is rapidly going down the sewer... ....Uhm.... What credibility? Not having been in RND and actually able to understand vehicle dynamics.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1486
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:11:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote: So the game should balanced on whether or not someone already knows a tanker?
Well thats what you are saying! = Have a tank on your team or you cant win. I'll say it again.
16 Cal Logis on a team with Duvolle TARs or Core Flaylocks, but only 7 tanks. And at that, not all of them could be piloted well.
You don't even have a logical argument against me. Why do you bother?
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
3230
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:12:00 -
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Flix Keptick wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Tanker mentality is the reason why you don't let tankers balance gameplay.
Especially Spkr threads.... *Regnum cringes Because infantry with OP rifles is better? Or maybe it's just all the other weapons that are up?
At least infantry with OP Rifles have a counter.
AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1486
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:13:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Flix Keptick wrote: Because tanks in bf4 are freeeeeeeeee, therefore it doesn't matter if one looses 7 of them in one game
Again , my MLT tanks are cheaper than my Dropsuits.and 100% more effective in everything but capping points. After 1.7, please dont use the ISK argument. Its ridiculous..... Another one still angry that MLT is cheaper than PRO. Do you not see the ridiculousness of your statement? Would you rather MLT hulls go for 300,000 ISK? In that case, let's petition CCP to make PRO cost what they used to, 317,000 ISK.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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KING CHECKMATE
Scions of Athra
3230
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:14:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Spkr4theDead wrote: So the game should balanced on whether or not someone already knows a tanker?
Well thats what you are saying! = Have a tank on your team or you cant win. I'll say it again. 16 Cal Logis on a team with Duvolle TARs or Core Flaylocks, but only 7 tanks. And at that, not all of them could be piloted well. You don't even have a logical argument against me. Why do you bother?
The difference is , i can take on 16 cal logis with Duvolle Tars or Flaylocks. Or at least i have a chance WITHOUT having to use the same equipment.
I dont have a chance vs the 7 tanks unless i use a tank myself.
You being slow and arrogant wont see it, but others do.....
AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
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Spkr4theDead
Red Star. EoN.
1486
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Posted - 2013.12.16 03:14:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Flix Keptick wrote:ReGnYuM wrote:Tanker mentality is the reason why you don't let tankers balance gameplay.
Especially Spkr threads.... *Regnum cringes Because infantry with OP rifles is better? Or maybe it's just all the other weapons that are up? At least infantry with OP Rifles have a counter. Maybe someday soon you'll see the fallacy in running 6 PRO stomping assaults.
Teamwork for thee, but no teamwork for me, such is the motto of the anti vehicle infantry.
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