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KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3224	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:55:00 - [1] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: The 1.7 patch is not a week old, and very few of them are happy with it. Guess what... these are the results of you constantly complaining about tanks. Now they're better, and all of you are still trying to use AV to destroy us. Well, now CCP made it so the best counter to a tank is another one. See a Madrugar with a blaster ruining infantry? Have someone call in a Gunnlogi with a missile turret. See a Gunnlogi with a blaster ruining infantry? Call in a tank with a railgun to destroy it. What's so hard about rolling with a competent tanker? I want someone to explain that to me. Why is that so hard? ITs not so hard. But its wrong to HAVE to play with a tanker in order to have a Chance.Its not balance. Its stupid. like this thread. AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3224	Posted - 2013.12.16 02:55:00 - [2] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Comes in tread to have a logical conversation Sees the guy who was complaining about proximity mines Leaves thread +1 Spkr4theDead: your credibility is rapidly going down the sewer... AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3227	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:01:00 - [3] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: The 1.7 patch is not a week old, and very few of them are happy with it. Guess what... these are the results of you constantly complaining about tanks. Now they're better, and all of you are still trying to use AV to destroy us. Well, now CCP made it so the best counter to a tank is another one. See a Madrugar with a blaster ruining infantry? Have someone call in a Gunnlogi with a missile turret. See a Gunnlogi with a blaster ruining infantry? Call in a tank with a railgun to destroy it. What's so hard about rolling with a competent tanker? I want someone to explain that to me. Why is that so hard? ITs not so hard. But its wrong to HAVE to play with a tanker in order to have a Chance.Its not balance. Its stupid. like this thread. You're not explaining yourself. I asked for an explanation. Why is wrong to squad with a tanker? there is nothing wrong. BUT WHAT IF I CANNOT squad with a tanker said day. The only tanker i know that would play with me is TRUE ADAMANCE. If hes not connected , then i have to suck it up and NOT play? Or play and get butt plugged without counter? Or i have to deploy a tank to be able to actually compete? THIS IS YOUR REASONING? Because if it is its really flawed. EDIT: ''You're not explaining yourself. I asked for an explanation. Why is wrong to squad with a tanker?'' Im sorry i took 2 minutes in answer you princess. next time i'll be hitting F5 repeatedly until i spot one of your answers to intermediately respond and explain to you, because you are worth all of my time.... ( -.- ) ..I.. AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3227	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:08:00 - [4] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: So the game should balanced on whether or not someone already knows a tanker? Well thats what you are saying! = Have a tank on your team or you cant win. AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3230	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:10:00 - [5] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: Because tanks in bf4 are freeeeeeeeee, therefore it doesn't matter if one looses 7 of them in one game Again , my MLT tanks are cheaper than my Dropsuits.and 100% more effective in everything but capping points. After 1.7, please dont use the ISK argument. Its ridiculous..... AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3230	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:12:00 - [6] - Quote Flix Keptick wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Tanker mentality is the reason why you don't let tankers balance gameplay. Especially Spkr threads.... *Regnum cringes Because infantry with OP rifles is better? Or maybe it's just all the other weapons that are up? At least infantry with OP Rifles have a counter. AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3230	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:14:00 - [7] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: So the game should balanced on whether or not someone already knows a tanker? Well thats what you are saying! = Have a tank on your team or you cant win. I'll say it again. 16 Cal Logis on a team with Duvolle TARs or Core Flaylocks, but only 7 tanks. And at that, not all of them could be piloted well. You don't even have a logical argument against me. Why do you bother? The difference is , i can take on 16 cal logis with Duvolle Tars or Flaylocks. Or at least i have a chance WITHOUT having to use the same equipment. I dont have a chance vs the 7 tanks unless i use a tank myself. You being slow and arrogant wont see it, but others do..... AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3230	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:15:00 - [8] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Flix Keptick wrote: Because tanks in bf4 are freeeeeeeeee, therefore it doesn't matter if one looses 7 of them in one game Again , my MLT tanks are cheaper than my Dropsuits.and 100% more effective in everything but capping points. After 1.7, please dont use the ISK argument. Its ridiculous..... Another one still angry that MLT is cheaper than PRO. Do you not see the ridiculousness of your statement? Would you rather MLT hulls go for 300,000 ISK? In that case, let's petition CCP to make PRO cost what they used to, 317,000 ISK. Yeah because a MLT 5000+ EHP tank at 65K ISK = 185k ISK 350 EHP scout fit. Very smart bro.REally bright... AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3230	Posted - 2013.12.16 03:18:00 - [9] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: ReGnYuM wrote: Tanker mentality is the reason why you don't let tankers balance gameplay. Especially Spkr threads.... *Regnum cringes Letting infantry dictate balance resulted in tanks being nerfed what, 5 or 6 builds in a row? Infantry is STILL the Mayority of this player-base. Dont forget that SPKR4. NEVER forget that..... AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3234	Posted - 2013.12.16 04:04:00 - [10] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: So that means they should hold all the influence over CCP, and the small playerbase that are tankers should hold exactly none? That's not exactly fair, or balanced. Like AV was up until 1.7. Not saying it was. But tanking is not fair for the rest of the community as it is now. Not even saying they are OP,but MLT tanks taking on Proto Av'ers easily is not balanced at all. AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446

KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3234	Posted - 2013.12.16 04:06:00 - [11] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: It's MLT and PRO. You still don't get it, do you. Will you be happy if MLT tanks cost 500,000 ISK? Not necessarily happy, but considering their effectiveness and the fact it might stop tanks spam at least in FW i wouldn't mind too much to be quite honest. AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3236	Posted - 2013.12.16 04:16:00 - [12] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: It's MLT and PRO. You still don't get it, do you. Will you be happy if MLT tanks cost 500,000 ISK? Not necessarily happy, but considering their effectiveness and the fact it might stop tanks spam at least in FW i wouldn't mind too much to be quite honest. Of course you wouldn't mind if MLT and STD tanks cost twice as much as they did pre 1.7. Of course i wouldnt since they are at least 3 times stronger. AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3240	Posted - 2013.12.16 04:20:00 - [13] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: It's a tank. People still shoot tanks with ARs expecting them to do noticeable damage. Is there help for people like that? If even MLT AV could have their way with tanks so easily, what's the point of using them at all? But then again, that's your ultimate goal, isn't it, to make tanks so bad that nobody uses them. ''It's a tank. People still shoot tanks with ARs expecting them to do noticeable damage. Is there help for people like that?'' No.But you know i dont try to AV with AR's. '' If even MLT AV could have their way with tanks so easily, what's the point of using them at all? '' Hmhmm. Ok taht IS very true. But as it is NOW using anything except Proto AV againts (even MLT) tanks is pointless. What is the pont of USING a STD swarm launcher at all? of course, you dont care. Because im not talking about useless tanks here, just AV. ''But then again, that's your ultimate goal, isn't it, to make tanks so bad that nobody uses them.'' Regardless of how many times you put words in my mouth, thats not my ultimate goal. My ultimate goal is being able to PLAY a game , killing enemies as always and in the case a tank is pulled down either have a chance to Destroy it with my AV weaponry (since thats what its for and im already risking my neck vs other infantry) or at least get some income for pushing it away. AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3247	Posted - 2013.12.16 04:39:00 - [14] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: 34+ mil SP? Jeez, and I thought I had no life. You have no brain.Its different. You cant even tell you are mistaken. Even with all these people trying to explain it to you.Even TANKERS....And AVERS, and infantry alike... AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3249	Posted - 2013.12.16 04:53:00 - [15] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: 34+ mil SP? Jeez, and I thought I had no life. You have no brain.Its different. You cant even tell you are mistaken. Even with all these people trying to explain it to you.Even TANKERS....And AVERS, and infantry alike... Of course I have a brain, you need one to be a tanker. Especially making a very rapid decision of whether you could win any certain battle or not. If I'm using an experimental fit and see someone using a particle cannon with a damage mod, I won't try to fight them. Why don't you try tanking for a week? ''Of course I have a brain, you need one to be a tanker.'' Not a lot in 1.7, there by the tank spam ''Why don't you try tanking for a week?'' I think you havn't been around a lot huh? My AV weapon of Choice is now a MLT sica , with 2 Shield hardeners, 1 Armor repairer,1 armor hardener and STD Missiles. ITs Cheaper than my best AV fitting by 80k and its at least 200% more effective beating my best AV fit with a rate of 3 to 1 tanks destroyed. Im not saying im particularity good at it, but i do have a nack to wait far away watching my enemy fight and use their hardeners and then move in for the kill using my double shield hardener to outlast their tank EHP. Has worked on both MAddys and Gunnos alike. AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446
KING CHECKMATE Scions of Athra 3251	Posted - 2013.12.16 05:01:00 - [16] - Quote RydogV wrote: I don't know what folks are complaining about with tanks. Other than the redonkulous speed, they are totally kill-able. I have killed more tanks in the past few days than I had in the past few months. And I am only running Advanced Swarms with zero Proficiency, and some EX-0 A/V grenades. You don't need a tank to kill another tank...you just need a couple of A/V gunners who can work together. At the very least, they are going to run off and give you some breathing room for a bit. Next best thing to a kill in my book. Heck the best games are the ones with 3 or 4 enemy tanks running around. Not only is it a target rich environment but those teams rarely can hold on to their objectives. Easy wins, every time. ''Other than the redonkulous speed, they are totally kill-able. I have killed more tanks in the past few days than I had in the past few months'' Yes they are pretty fast for a HEAVY vehicle. Of course you have killed more, there are at least 20 times more tanks than before 1.7. ''You don't need a tank to kill another tank...you just need a couple of A/V gunners who can work together'' there by the imbalance. Why does the tanker get to play solo and i have to squad up with OTHER AVers? What if im playing SOLO? what if my squad mates dont have good AV? WHAT IF THERE ARE MORE THAN 1 TANK AT A TIME, say 5? ''At the very least, they are going to run off and give you some breathing room for a bit. Next best thing to a kill in my book'' I would agree if i got some WP for it. But after the tank is gone getting killed by Infantry since i was using AV weaponry to TRY and counter the tank,is not acceptable,specially since i didnt get any WP for pushing it back NOR the kill,NOR assist if anything.... ''Heck the best games are the ones with 3 or 4 enemy tanks running around.'' All games are with 3+ tanks running around. ''Not only is it a target rich environment but those teams rarely can hold on to their objectives. Easy wins, every time'' BullS and you know it, cant hold their objectives? There are lots of maps that have 3 objectives out in the open! as infantry it will be easy to hold the 2 inside but going outside is suicide. a Map as ASH LAND , tanks can have powerful presence in 3 out of 5 objectives and in the case of Line Harvest they have COVER and easy access to all 4 objectives. a lot of nonesense being said, i can only imagine SPKR4 will like your post. EDIT:''see guys, here's a reasonable reply. Why can't you be more like this guy?'' LOL i knew it. AV-TANK BALANCE = https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1612446#post1612446

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