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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
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Posted - 2013.12.23 22:39:00 -
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Artificer Ghost wrote:I's played EVE doe. My Algos has like, what, a couple hundred shield and over 1k armor?
Really? That's a really bad tank, Ghost. But, it is a destroyer. They aren't renown for their tanks.
Amarr, in general, have better Armor HP and more low slots.
Also, it's not uncommon to see Gallente ships using shield tanks.
What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage?
The pile of garbage looks nicer.
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Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
788
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Posted - 2013.12.23 22:42:00 -
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Hm.
(Note that I'm a super-noob in EVE. Not even past all the Advanced Tutorials, so Core Skills are at nothing. I got the Algos almost specifically for the drone capacity and guns.)
So yup. Null tank, 6+ drones, however many blasters, I think I'm good, considering that I'm not getting out of the carebear stuff for a while.
~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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Ulysses Knapse
Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm
873
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Posted - 2013.12.23 22:52:00 -
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Artificer Ghost wrote:Hm.
(Note that I'm a super-noob in EVE. Not even past all the Advanced Tutorials, so Core Skills are at nothing. I got the Algos almost specifically for the drone capacity and guns.)
So yup. Null tank, 6+ drones, however many blasters, I think I'm good, considering that I'm not getting out of the carebear stuff for a while.
What's your character name? :o
What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage?
The pile of garbage looks nicer.
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Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
799
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Posted - 2013.12.23 23:00:00 -
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Don't worry about it. I'm not going to try and PVP you, with all of my Hobgoblins and Ogres... Also I'm uber-bad. :D
~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
2150
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Posted - 2013.12.24 04:00:00 -
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Come on ccp, I know you devs are on right now.
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1074
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Posted - 2013.12.25 23:05:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:I personally think that instead of giving more lows or maybe along with the one low across the board, they could also get a base armor rep equal to 2 enhanced repairers. John, you're back!  But I must disagree with you. Also I must inform you that you are wrong. Not all dropsuits have the same number of slots, sadly, which they should.
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.25 23:05:00 -
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Artificer Ghost wrote:Don't worry about it. I'm not going to try and PVP you, with all of my Hobgoblins and Ogres... Also I'm uber-bad. :D
Ogres in an algos? Eww |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.12.25 23:19:00 -
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Back to the commando...
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
2407
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Posted - 2013.12.26 17:13:00 -
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Are there any objections to buffing the commando?
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
1846
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Posted - 2013.12.26 21:49:00 -
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I'm wearing no underwear, it will have to do until I get proto 
Level 1 forum warrior.
Minmatar and Gallente fw.
I sold my wife and kids to the Amarr for isk, its a valid tactic.
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T'orq
DUST University
Ivy League
82
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Posted - 2013.12.26 22:02:00 -
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No objections from me=P
Thanjac-
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Commando Lives
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
2415
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Posted - 2013.12.27 02:58:00 -
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Ccp.....come on :(
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Talos Alomar
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1914
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Posted - 2013.12.27 10:09:00 -
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The commando is OP. it needs nerf nao.
Try to kill it all you want CCP, I still <3 my laser.
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
2419
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Posted - 2013.12.27 13:39:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:The commando is OP. it needs nerf nao.
Lolololololololololololololololol.......wait are you serious?
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Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
350
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Posted - 2013.12.27 14:46:00 -
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It's clear CCP forgot about the lolmando, and the scout. But I can't say that I'm all that surprised either.
they need a look at, we all know they suffer from some idiosyncrasies.
1. Specialty skill level bonus for armor/shield modules, but zero slots at standard (can't even fit a repairer? Really?)
2. Shield recharge rate and delay is terrible, arguably worse than any suit.
3. One equipment slot and no grenade does not make the role autonomous as the description would suggest.
4. Very slow/large hit box for so having so many other faults
5. Cost per suit is too high. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.12.27 14:47:00 -
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Slag Emberforge wrote:It's clear CCP forgot about the lolmando, and the scout. But I can't say that I'm all that surprised either.
they need a look at, we all know they suffer from some idiosyncrasies.
1. Specialty skill level bonus for armor/shield modules, but zero slots at standard (can't even fit a repairer? Really?)
2. Shield recharge rate and delay is terrible, arguably worse than any suit.
3. One equipment slot and no grenade does not make the role autonomous as the description would suggest.
4. Very slow/large hit box for so having so many other faults
5. Cost per suit is too high.
You are 100% correct. :D
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Slag Emberforge
Immortal Retribution
351
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Posted - 2013.12.27 14:51:00 -
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I'm primarily a heavy forger, but I like to roll lolmando every once in awhile. They are just so limited, there isn't any optimization to do, throw two weapons at it, doesn't work? Try a different or more expensive variant of that weapon.. Oh wait you a can't.. Because your out of resources.. |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
2421
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Posted - 2013.12.27 14:55:00 -
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Slag Emberforge wrote:I'm primarily a heavy forger, but I like to roll lolmando every once in awhile. They are just so limited, there isn't any optimization to do, throw two weapons at it, doesn't work? Try a different or more expensive variant of that weapon.. Oh wait you a can't.. Because your out of resources..
Exactly, I have been able to do well with the commando (even turn....dare I say it....I made a profit using the commando).
My main tactic is let the blueberries rush in first and take all of the heat and then just sit back and wreck the leftovers.....jk I'm usually the first one into a compound filled with reds :p
Anyways, in the OP there is a quote at the bottom that sums up exactly what's going on ATM with the commando.
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
2432
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Posted - 2013.12.28 18:10:00 -
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O_o
o_O
*bump*
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Suanar Daranaus
Seykal Expeditionary Group
Minmatar Republic
98
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Posted - 2013.12.28 19:16:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:How would you feel if the the commando was a light suit?
It was almost one in one of the earlier Builds. ( Light Scout Suit ) I LOVED it.
Would carry a Swarm Launcher and a Sniper rifle around. Great fun ! |
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.12.28 19:29:00 -
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Suanar Daranaus wrote:Cosgar wrote:How would you feel if the the commando was a light suit? It was almost one in one of the earlier Builds. ( Light Scout Suit ) I LOVED it. Would carry a Swarm Launcher and a Sniper rifle around. Great fun !
Interesting, but if it was a light frame it would suffers rom the current issues and all the issues with scouts :/
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1097
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Posted - 2013.12.28 19:37:00 -
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Ulysses Knapse wrote:Artificer Ghost wrote:I's played EVE doe. My Algos has like, what, a couple hundred shield and over 1k armor? Really? That's a really bad tank, Ghost. But, it is a destroyer. They aren't renown for their tanks. Amarr, in general, have better Armor HP and more low slots. Also, it's not uncommon to see Gallente ships using shield tanks.
@artificer, my dragoon would eat your algos for breakfast, and your average punisher has a better tank.
And Ulysses is right, whatever a gallente ship can reach, an amarr ship will probably out do it.
"Always fight dirty, the victor writes history"
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.12.28 19:39:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Ulysses Knapse wrote:Artificer Ghost wrote:I's played EVE doe. My Algos has like, what, a couple hundred shield and over 1k armor? Really? That's a really bad tank, Ghost. But, it is a destroyer. They aren't renown for their tanks. Amarr, in general, have better Armor HP and more low slots. Also, it's not uncommon to see Gallente ships using shield tanks. @artificer, my dragoon would eat your algos for breakfast, and your average punisher has a better tank. And Ulysses is right, whatever a gallente ship can reach, an amarr ship will probably out do it.
Commando?
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.12.28 19:40:00 -
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Personally I believe commando suits would be best as a med frame, since they provide a good mix of base defense/utility.
Edit: sorry for going off topic so many times.
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TunRa
Sebiestor Field Sappers
Minmatar Republic
279
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Posted - 2013.12.28 20:24:00 -
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Someone needs to make a proto commando squad and pub stomp.
Thanks CCP Foxfour
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Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
868
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:19:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:@Artificer, my Dragoon would eat your Algos for breakfast, and your average Punisher has a better tank.
And Ulysses is right, whatever a Gallente ship can reach, an Amarr ship will probably out do it.
1) FTFY. :D
2) It is a Destroyer. Their tank is pretty iffy, as you know.
3) As a Gallente purist, I'll not play Amarr ships that often. I'll probably pick up a Magnate so I could do some low-sec exploration, and even that's a maybe.
4) Did you not read the, like, 9 posts where I said "#nooby"? I'm not even done with the Advanced Missions yet. Core Skills are all unleveled, and I'm just generally very weak. I went straight for the Algos and Heavy Scout Drones. :P #NOOBY
Plus, I don't do PvP. Not until I'm a little more well-fit and/or skilled.
/re-rail
EDIT: Plus, I wasn't sure on those numbers. I probably got them wrong. I know that the switch from Velator to Algos seriously surprised me because of the changes to HP.
~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1100
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:25:00 -
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Artificer Ghost wrote:Vermaak Doe wrote:@Artificer, my Dragoon would eat your Algos for breakfast, and your average Punisher has a better tank.
And Ulysses is right, whatever a Gallente ship can reach, an Amarr ship will probably out do it. 1) FTFY. :D 2) It is a Destroyer. Their tank is pretty iffy, as you know. 3) As a Gallente purist, I'll not play Amarr ships that often. I'll probably pick up a Magnate so I could do some low-sec exploration, and even that's a maybe. 4) Did you not read the, like, 9 posts where I said "#nooby"? I'm not even done with the Advanced Missions yet. Core Skills are all unleveled, and I'm just generally very weak. I went straight for the Algos and Heavy Scout Drones. :P #NOOBY Plus, I don't do PvP. Not until I'm a little more well-fit and/or skilled. /re-rail EDIT: Plus, I wasn't sure on those numbers. I probably got them wrong. I know that the switch from Velator to Algos seriously surprised me because of the changes to HP.
Lets talk on eve, put your character's name in your signature and I'll do likewise.
"Always fight dirty, the victor writes history"
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
2432
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:41:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Personally I believe commando suits would be best as a med frame, since they provide a good mix of base defense/utility.
Edit: sorry for going off topic so many times.
That's alright :)
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:45:00 -
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TunRa wrote:Someone needs to make a proto commando squad and pub stomp.
If you click the link in my sig you'll see I did so ur hung similar :p
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Artificer Ghost
Bojo's School of the Trades
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Posted - 2013.12.28 21:51:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:Lets talk on eve, put your character's name in your signature and I'll do likewise.
I haven't re-activated my account, and don't plan on it until I get a bit time to play (On the 2nd, I'll be back home). I also need to remember which one of my trial accounts holds my alt with the Algos/drones. I may just need to start completely from scratch, which I don't mind.
~Art, CEO and Director of Educations at Bojo's School of The Trades, Co-Founder of the Learning Coalition
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