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WeapondigitX V7 wrote:

The heavy should always have a commado specialization.

But 2 scout commando specializations could be created to satisfy many people.

my suggestion

first commando scout specialisation: should have 2 light weapons, no grenades, 1 equipment slot, suit bonus should give CPU/PG reduction cost of cloak equipment per level and reduce 'shimmer' when moving while cloaked per level, cant think of a racial bonus for gallente that would befit it.

has no module slots at basic level, 1 low slot at adv level, 2 low slots proto (gallente suit)
has roughly 30 hp/sec shield regen
roughly 6 second shield recharge delay
roughly 12 second depleted shield recharge delay
sprint speed is 8.01 m/s
movement speed is 5.35m/s
stamina is 300
stamina regen is 17 per sec
melee damage is 80 Hp
scan profile: 45
scan precision: 36

second commando scout specialisation: has 2 light weapons, 1 grenade slot, no equipment slot, suit bonus could be a reduction in light weapon and sidearm reload time per level, cant think of a racial bonus for gallente that would befit it.

has no module slots at basic level, 1 low slot at adv level, 2 low slots proto (gallente suit)
has roughly 40 hp/sec shield regen
roughly 4 second shield recharge delay
roughly 6 second shield depleted recharge delay
sprint speed is 8.01 m/s
movement speed is 5.2 m/s
stamina is 350
stamina regen is 8 per sec
melee damage is 240 Hp
scan profile: 36
scan precision: 36

this is my suggestion for gallente, I will let others think of how the other racial variants of these specializations can be made, if they like the idea.

"It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it."

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Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4754	Posted - 2013.12.17 13:02:00 - [31] - Quote -1 for using YOLO. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives. Tuna > Tacos
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 1991	Posted - 2013.12.17 20:30:00 - [32] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: The solution to the commando suit is too make it a medium frame. At proto(Amarr) 2 highs, 3 lows, 2 L, 1 grenade, 2 equipment. Just doesn't fit the heavy scheme. I think it suits the heavy frame well IMO, I believe if it was a medium frame, all we would see is dual wielding duvolles + nade spamming even more. "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle <3 Commando AK.0
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 2005	Posted - 2013.12.18 00:59:00 - [33] - Quote I refuse to let this be ignored by ccp!!!!! "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle <3 Commando AK.0
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2167	Posted - 2013.12.18 01:06:00 - [34] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: I refuse to let this be ignored by ccp!!!!! It's your fault for speccing into Proto Commando When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 2010	Posted - 2013.12.18 01:10:00 - [35] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: I refuse to let this be ignored by ccp!!!!! It's your fault for speccing into Proto Commando No I don't care about that, I actually like the proto commando, but the commando is basically the new scout, UP as tranquilized cucumber but is used far less than a scout :p "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle <3 Commando AK.0
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2170	Posted - 2013.12.18 01:12:00 - [36] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: I refuse to let this be ignored by ccp!!!!! It's your fault for speccing into Proto Commando No I don't care about that, I actually like the proto commando, but the commando is basically the new scout, UP as tranquilized cucumber but is used far less than a scout :p I know the Scout is UP, but it's so #&%@%$ fun! I actually had more fun in a Militia Scout with a Militia Shotgun than I've had in days.* And beyond that, I still went 21-5 :D Then I had a ****** PC vs AE :( Derailed thread, this thread is now about kittens. Proceed. When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 2010	Posted - 2013.12.18 01:14:00 - [37] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: Patrick57 wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: I refuse to let this be ignored by ccp!!!!! It's your fault for speccing into Proto Commando No I don't care about that, I actually like the proto commando, but the commando is basically the new scout, UP as tranquilized cucumber but is used far less than a scout :p I know the Scout is UP, but it's so #&%@%$ fun! I actually had more fun in a Militia Scout with a Militia Shotgun than I've had in days.* And beyond that, I still went 21-5 :D Then I had a ****** PC vs AE :( Derailed thread, this thread is now about kittens. Proceed. Lol scout is very fun....but I got bored with it a few weeks ago, now it's commando time :p "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle <3 Commando AK.0
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2170	Posted - 2013.12.18 01:17:00 - [38] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Lol scout is very fun....but I got bored with it a few weeks ago, now it's commando time :p What was that about kittens? When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
WeapondigitX V7 The Exemplars Top Men. 132	Posted - 2013.12.18 01:27:00 - [39] - Quote The heavy should always have a commado specialization. But 2 scout commando specializations could be created to satisfy many people. my suggestion first commando scout specialisation: should have 2 light weapons, no grenades, 1 equipment slot, suit bonus should give CPU/PG reduction cost of cloak equipment per level and reduce 'shimmer' when moving while cloaked per level, cant think of a racial bonus for gallente that would befit it. has no module slots at basic level, 1 low slot at adv level, 2 low slots proto (gallente suit) has roughly 30ph/sec shield regen roughly 6 second shield recharge delay roughly 12 second depleted shield recharge delay sprint speed is 8.01 m/s movement speed is 5.35m/s stamina is 300 stamina regen is 17 per sec melee damage is 80 Hp scan profile: 45 scan precision: 36 second commando scout specialisation: has 2 light weapons, 1 grenade slot, no equipment slot, suit bonus could be a reduction in light weapon and sidearm reload time per level, cant think of a racial bonus for gallente that would befit it. has no module slots at basic level, 1 low slot at adv level, 2 low slots proto (gallente suit) has roughly 40ph/sec shield regen roughly 4 second shield recharge delay roughly 6 second shield depleted recharge delay sprint speed is 8.01 m/s movement speed is 5.2 m/s stamina is 350 stamina regen is 8 per sec melee damage is 240 Hp scan profile: 36 scan precision: 36 this is my suggestion for gallente, I will let others think of how the other racial variants of these specializations can be made, if they like the idea.
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 2011	Posted - 2013.12.18 01:31:00 - [40] - Quote WeapondigitX V7 wrote: The heavy should always have a commado specialization. But 2 scout commando specializations could be created to satisfy many people. my suggestion first commando scout specialisation: should have 2 light weapons, no grenades, 1 equipment slot, suit bonus should give CPU/PG reduction cost of cloak equipment per level and reduce 'shimmer' when moving while cloaked per level, cant think of a racial bonus for gallente that would befit it. has no module slots at basic level, 1 low slot at adv level, 2 low slots proto (gallente suit) has roughly 30 hp/sec shield regen roughly 6 second shield recharge delay roughly 12 second depleted shield recharge delay sprint speed is 8.01 m/s movement speed is 5.35m/s stamina is 300 stamina regen is 17 per sec melee damage is 80 Hp scan profile: 45 scan precision: 36 second commando scout specialisation: has 2 light weapons, 1 grenade slot, no equipment slot, suit bonus could be a reduction in light weapon and sidearm reload time per level, cant think of a racial bonus for gallente that would befit it. has no module slots at basic level, 1 low slot at adv level, 2 low slots proto (gallente suit) has roughly 40 hp/sec shield regen roughly 4 second shield recharge delay roughly 6 second shield depleted recharge delay sprint speed is 8.01 m/s movement speed is 5.2 m/s stamina is 350 stamina regen is 8 per sec melee damage is 240 Hp scan profile: 36 scan precision: 36 this is my suggestion for gallente, I will let others think of how the other racial variants of these specializations can be made, if they like the idea. Alright, I see were your coming from, I like it.....however I don't think ccp will swap the commando class to light frames (it just seems like to much work were a simple buff would do) "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle <3 Commando AK.0

WeapondigitX V7 The Exemplars Top Men. 134	Posted - 2013.12.18 01:33:00 - [41] - Quote I said that the heavy commando should stay where it is and also meant that its stats should remain roughly the same as it is now.
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 2011	Posted - 2013.12.18 01:38:00 - [42] - Quote WeapondigitX V7 wrote: I said that the heavy commando should stay where it is and also meant that its stats should remain roughly the same as it is now. Sorry :p I skimmed over ur post as I'm writing an essay right now :p "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle <3 Commando AK.0
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2173	Posted - 2013.12.18 01:39:00 - [43] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: WeapondigitX V7 wrote: I said that the heavy commando should stay where it is and also meant that its stats should remain roughly the same as it is now. Sorry :p I skimmed over ur post as I'm writing an essay right now :p Quit slacking!! When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Shadow Archeus OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 176	Posted - 2013.12.18 02:54:00 - [44] - Quote Here's how to fix the commando Give it the 1 low slot across all tiers like the op asked for Buff HP to be In line with other heavy suits Keep everything else the same
Patrick57 Fatal Absolution 2188	Posted - 2013.12.18 02:55:00 - [45] - Quote Shadow Archeus wrote: Here's how to fix the commando Give it the 1 low slot across all tiers like the op asked for Buff HP to be In line with other heavy suits Keep everything else the same No, never!! Nerf the Commando!! Make it have 2 Sidearm slots instead When I'm depressed, I cut myself......A BIG SLICE OF CHOCOLATE CAKE! nú+
Midas Fool Black Phoenix Mercenaries 263	Posted - 2013.12.18 02:55:00 - [46] - Quote +1 for extra low slot across the board. For best results press R1 repeatedly. Consult your doctor if your erection persists for more than four hours.
Shadow Archeus OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 176	Posted - 2013.12.18 03:14:00 - [47] - Quote Patrick57 wrote: Shadow Archeus wrote: Here's how to fix the commando Give it the 1 low slot across all tiers like the op asked for Buff HP to be In line with other heavy suits Keep everything else the same No, never!! Nerf the Commando!! Make it have 2 Sidearm slots instead No that's my approach to fixing slayer logis
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 2014	Posted - 2013.12.18 03:43:00 - [48] - Quote Back to commandos, any foreseeable "OP-ness" coming from my suggested buffs? "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle <3 Commando AK.0
DeadlyAztec11 2819	Posted - 2013.12.18 03:46:00 - [49] - Quote Just make the Black Eagle the standard Commando suit already. What was CCP even thinking? »We still have our honor!
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 2014	Posted - 2013.12.18 04:12:00 - [50] - Quote DeadlyAztec11 wrote: Just make the Black Eagle the standard Commando suit already. What was CCP even thinking? Lol Idk but I like the look of the proto commando as a heavy....black and red make him look like a bad@$$ "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle <3 Commando AK.0

General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 37	Posted - 2013.12.18 04:45:00 - [51] - Quote Its sad to say that this role was broken from the beginning. I say keep it a heavy frame, but give it a speed closer to a medium rather than a 'lighter heavy.' Perhaps +1% light damage increase per level? Reason why i want it to stay a heavy though is because i think if star wars republic commando whe i think of a commando suit. I think the suit is so useless though is CCP's poor design. It was meant for multiple battlefield roles at once like sniper/assualt. You will need more than just the ability to change between two different light weapons in order to fully accomplish that.
General12912 Gallente Marine Corps 37	Posted - 2013.12.18 04:47:00 - [52] - Quote Its sad to say that this role was broken from the beginning. I say keep it a heavy frame, but give it a speed closer to a medium rather than a 'lighter heavy.' Perhaps +1% light damage increase per level? Reason why i want it to stay a heavy though is because i think if star wars republic commando whe i think of a commando suit. I think the reason why suit is so useless though is CCP's poor design. It was meant for multiple battlefield roles at once like sniper/assualt. You will need more than just the ability to change between two different light weapons in order to fully accomplish that.
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 2016	Posted - 2013.12.18 12:12:00 - [53] - Quote General12912 wrote: Its sad to say that this role was broken from the beginning. I say keep it a heavy frame, but give it a speed closer to a medium rather than a 'lighter heavy.' Perhaps +1% light damage increase per level? Reason why i want it to stay a heavy though is because i think if star wars republic commando whe i think of a commando suit. I think the reason why suit is so useless though is CCP's poor design. It was meant for multiple battlefield roles at once like sniper/assualt. You will need more than just the ability to change between two different light weapons in order to fully accomplish that. Finally someone who understands!!!!!!!! Can I add an excerpt from this post to the OP? "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle <3 Commando AK.0
T'orq DUST University Ivy League 27	Posted - 2013.12.18 12:31:00 - [54] - Quote I agree with Fire, the commando suit needs some TLC from CCP. But it needs to remain a heavy suit, yes you die quickly but not as quick as the black eagle suit. I don't have proto yet, but I will get there eventually. 'Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.' - John 15:13. A code for logis.
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 2019	Posted - 2013.12.18 20:28:00 - [55] - Quote To the top!!!!! "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle <3 Commando AK.0
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1021	Posted - 2013.12.19 01:33:00 - [56] - Quote Sgt Buttscratch wrote: The solution to the commando suit is too make it a medium frame. At proto(Amarr) 2 highs, 3 lows, 2 L, 1 grenade, 2 equipment. Just doesn't fit the heavy scheme. I disagree in every way.
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 2021	Posted - 2013.12.19 02:05:00 - [57] - Quote low genius wrote: Sgt Buttscratch wrote: The solution to the commando suit is too make it a medium frame. At proto(Amarr) 2 highs, 3 lows, 2 L, 1 grenade, 2 equipment. Just doesn't fit the heavy scheme. I disagree in every way. Me too :p I think the commando should stay as a heavy frame. It just needs a little TLC in order for it to be a true asset to any team. "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle <3 Commando AK.0
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1023	Posted - 2013.12.19 02:29:00 - [58] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: low genius wrote: Sgt Buttscratch wrote: The solution to the commando suit is too make it a medium frame. At proto(Amarr) 2 highs, 3 lows, 2 L, 1 grenade, 2 equipment. Just doesn't fit the heavy scheme. I disagree in every way. Me too :p I think the commando should stay as a heavy frame. It just needs a little TLC in order for it to be a true asset to any team. I think that one more low slot and the fittings to cover it across the suits would go a long way to getting people to use it. getting the standard suit and no mods to put onto it puts people off. very few players move up to the advanced level.
Fire of Prometheus DUST University Ivy League 2022	Posted - 2013.12.19 02:30:00 - [59] - Quote low genius wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: low genius wrote: Sgt Buttscratch wrote: The solution to the commando suit is too make it a medium frame. At proto(Amarr) 2 highs, 3 lows, 2 L, 1 grenade, 2 equipment. Just doesn't fit the heavy scheme. I disagree in every way. Me too :p I think the commando should stay as a heavy frame. It just needs a little TLC in order for it to be a true asset to any team. I think that one more low slot and the fittings to cover it across the suits would go a long way to getting people to use it. getting the standard suit and no mods to put onto it puts people off. very few players move up to the advanced level. Even fewer move up to proto :p "It is the mark of an educated mind to entertain a thought without accepting it." -Aristotle <3 Commando AK.0
low genius The Sound Of Freedom Renegade Alliance 1023	Posted - 2013.12.19 02:33:00 - [60] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: low genius wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: low genius wrote: Sgt Buttscratch wrote: The solution to the commando suit is too make it a medium frame. At proto(Amarr) 2 highs, 3 lows, 2 L, 1 grenade, 2 equipment. Just doesn't fit the heavy scheme. I disagree in every way. Me too :p I think the commando should stay as a heavy frame. It just needs a little TLC in order for it to be a true asset to any team. I think that one more low slot and the fittings to cover it across the suits would go a long way to getting people to use it. getting the standard suit and no mods to put onto it puts people off. very few players move up to the advanced level. Even fewer move up to proto :p don't even get me started



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