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Ulysses Knapse duna corp 753	Posted - 2013.12.15 23:36:00 - [1] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: there is a reason why there is literally only 6 proto commandos in existence. Am I included in that count? What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
Ulysses Knapse duna corp 754	Posted - 2013.12.15 23:46:00 - [2] - Quote Cosgar wrote: How would you feel if the the commando was a light suit? Light dropsuits should be buffed before something like that happens. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
Ulysses Knapse duna corp 757	Posted - 2013.12.15 23:49:00 - [3] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: Fire of Prometheus wrote: there is a reason why there is literally only 6 proto commandos in existence. Am I included in that count? If you dumped the sp into a lvl 5 commando than yes :) Hoorah! I'm a member of the exclusive Proto Commando club! What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
Ulysses Knapse duna corp 778	Posted - 2013.12.17 02:09:00 - [4] - Quote Cosgar wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: Cosgar wrote: How would you feel if the the commando was a light suit? Light dropsuits should be buffed before something like that happens. Even with how bad scouts are, the commando would still be better as a light frame. They got it right the first time with the Black Eagle. Scouts are useless. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 849	Posted - 2013.12.21 15:03:00 - [5] - Quote I personally think the Commando Dropsuit should be like the Assault Dropsuit, except with a focus on durability rather than mobility, and giving up the Grenade for a second Light Weapon. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 850	Posted - 2013.12.21 15:19:00 - [6] - Quote Fire of Prometheus wrote: Ulysses Knapse wrote: I personally think the Commando Dropsuit should be like the Assault Dropsuit, except with a focus on durability rather than mobility, and giving up the Grenade for a second Light Weapon. Agreed, ccp could have done a better way of implementing the commando role, however I doubt they will change the commandos "frame size" were a simple buff would do. It's not the frame size I want the Commando Dropsuit to borrow from the Assault Dropsuit, it's everything else, and everything that isn't the same would be counterbalanced. Basically, the Assault and Commando would have an equal number of strengths against the other. Mobility versus Durability Grenade versus Second Light Weapon That would be a decent balance, but CCP had to gimp the Commando by giving it the lowest slot count of any dropsuit. So, yeah... I'm not really sure why they did that. The loss of a grenade is bad enough, right? What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 850	Posted - 2013.12.21 15:31:00 - [7] - Quote T'orq wrote: You have some good points =) and yes the loss of a grenade is bad enough, but if you need grenades use a MD.;) Unless you need AV Grenades and Flux Grenades. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 850	Posted - 2013.12.21 15:44:00 - [8] - Quote Ulysses Knapse wrote: Unless you need AV Grenades and Flux Grenades. I actually think this a good thing, by the way. Adds some fitting complexity. Would you rather have a Light AV Weapon, or AV Grenades and a Sidearm of your choice? If I had a Sniper Rifle, I'd probably go with the latter, but with an Assault Rifle I'd probably choose the former. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 851	Posted - 2013.12.21 16:09:00 - [9] - Quote Yes, buff is needed. Also, I'm tired of all these people talking about making Commando into a Light Dropsuit. It makes more sense on a Heavy Frame. For one, a running theme with Heavy Dropsuits is their excessive weapons capability. Most get a Heavy Weapon, but the Commando gets two Light Weapons, which is fair enough. For two, Light Dropsuits don't really need the versatility that two Light Weapons provide. They're designed to be fast so they can choose which situations they get into. For example, a Light Dropsuit with a Shotgun or Sniper Rifle can easily get into the range they want, but a Heavy Dropsuit with the same weapons wouldn't be so lucky. Yes, Light Dropsuits do need a buff, but that's besides the point. For three, I kind of like the way Commandos work now. I tried the Black Eagles Dropsuit and I didn't enjoy it. Let's face it, Light Dropsuits aren't really meant for combat, so giving them two Light Weapons doesn't help all that much. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 864	Posted - 2013.12.21 20:33:00 - [10] - Quote Artificer Ghost wrote: Hm... Can't tell if someone is trying to trick me into proto-commando or it's actually worth the 2.1 million SP... It's not worth it. Standard Commando? Worth it. Advanced Commando? Eh... Proto Commando? Definitely not. There's almost no difference in effectiveness for me between the Advanced Commando and Proto Commando. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.

Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 867	Posted - 2013.12.21 23:05:00 - [11] - Quote Artificer Ghost wrote: Share some stats with the Assault class That's my idea, Ghost! What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 867	Posted - 2013.12.21 23:16:00 - [12] - Quote Artificer Ghost wrote: No idea who this "Ghost" guy is, but my name is Art. I'll always call you Ghost. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 873	Posted - 2013.12.23 20:24:00 - [13] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: I personally think that instead of giving more lows or maybe along with the one low across the board, they could also get a base armor rep equal to 2 enhanced repairers. John, you're back! But I must disagree with you. Also I must inform you that you are wrong. Not all dropsuits have the same number of slots, sadly, which they should. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 873	Posted - 2013.12.23 22:24:00 - [14] - Quote Artificer Ghost wrote: Ah, I see. Still, the Amarrians are the most balanced out of all of them. The Commando should be no different. Amarr should have the most lows. Gallente should lean towards lows. Minmatar should lean towards mids. Caldari should have the most mids. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 873	Posted - 2013.12.23 22:30:00 - [15] - Quote Artificer Ghost wrote: Noooope. Gallente have always been the uber armor-tankers. Dust 514 is the first and only example of where this is actually true. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 873	Posted - 2013.12.23 22:39:00 - [16] - Quote Artificer Ghost wrote: I's played EVE doe. My Algos has like, what, a couple hundred shield and over 1k armor? Really? That's a really bad tank, Ghost. But, it is a destroyer. They aren't renown for their tanks. Amarr, in general, have better Armor HP and more low slots. Also, it's not uncommon to see Gallente ships using shield tanks. What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.
Ulysses Knapse Knapse and Co. Mercenary Firm 873	Posted - 2013.12.23 22:52:00 - [17] - Quote Artificer Ghost wrote: Hm. (Note that I'm a super-noob in EVE. Not even past all the Advanced Tutorials, so Core Skills are at nothing. I got the Algos almost specifically for the drone capacity and guns.) So yup. Null tank, 6+ drones, however many blasters, I think I'm good, considering that I'm not getting out of the carebear stuff for a while. What's your character name? :o What's the difference between an immobile Minmatar ship and a pile of garbage? The pile of garbage looks nicer.

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