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Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10611	Posted - 2013.11.24 11:25:00 - [1] - Quote http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
DJINN Marauder Ancient Exiles. Renegade Alliance 3119	Posted - 2013.11.24 11:27:00 - [2] - Quote Kinda sad when 4.4 k is the months high :( GôÉGô¥GôÿGô£Gôö > GôÉGô¢Gô¢ Gÿà¿When will dust get better?Gÿà Forum Warrior LV. 3
Scheherazade VII 178	Posted - 2013.11.24 11:28:00 - [3] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I want CCP to do some television advertising, think of how many people want something new to play without having to buy the next-gen console. Get an advertisement on TV and reallllllly hammer home the free-to-play aspect, and I reckon DUST will have an influx of thousands of players. Still, 4,400 max for last night isn't too bad, maybe we will see 5,000+ consistently soon? GêÜGëêDUST VIDEOSGëêGêÜ
ovary obliterator Red Star. EoN. 36	Posted - 2013.11.24 11:28:00 - [4] - Quote gloating level = weak perhaps try a little more sarcasm or just learn to fly better maybe...
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10612	Posted - 2013.11.24 11:29:00 - [5] - Quote ovary obliterator wrote: gloating level = weak perhaps try a little more sarcasm or just learn to fly better maybe... :( I haven't crashed into any buildings all week... getting shot down another story. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 900	Posted - 2013.11.24 11:30:00 - [6] - Quote PS4 currently has nothing I want other than Killzone. Xbox One is prone to failure and has nothing I'll ever want. I'm getting the WiiU for Monster Hunter and Pikman. My PS3 has at least half a decade left in it. Look at all these needless spaces. "I am a mercenary, I do as I need. I'll shed Amarrian blood for the freedom of my Minmitar allies but only for a price."
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 2114	Posted - 2013.11.24 11:37:00 - [7] - Quote when we are able to buy PS4s (when there is stock) and when guys actually get them with a decent title, then we'll see how many continue to unplug the ps4 just to log onto dust. weRideNDie2getha since 2010
Jason Pearson 3128	Posted - 2013.11.24 11:37:00 - [8] - Quote Scheherazade VII wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I want CCP to do some television advertising, think of how many people want something new to play without having to buy the next-gen console. Get an advertisement on TV and reallllllly hammer home the free-to-play aspect, and I reckon DUST will have an influx of thousands of players. Still, 4,400 max for last night isn't too bad, maybe we will see 5,000+ consistently soon? No, you really don't want them advertising, it'll be money wasted with the game in a state atm, advertise when it's good and balanced. Also, PS4 isn't out in Europe yet is it? King of the Forums // Vehicle Specialist for Hire Laugh at the idiots crying about four BPOs being removed erryday, lul
Midas Fool T.R.I.A.D 198	Posted - 2013.11.24 11:47:00 - [9] - Quote I need my fix, man. Besides, there isn't any real reason to buy any new console until next year anyway.
Lt Royal Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2139	Posted - 2013.11.24 11:54:00 - [10] - Quote Scheherazade VII wrote: I want CCP to do some television advertising, think of how many people want something new to play without having to buy the next-gen console. Get an advertisement on TV and reallllllly hammer home the free-to-play aspect, and I reckon DUST will have an influx of thousands of players. Still, 4,400 max for last night isn't too bad, maybe we will see 5,000+ consistently soon? They already have a TV advertisement, which they showcased at FanFest 2013.

Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1924	Posted - 2013.11.24 12:11:00 - [11] - Quote They are delaying the campaign until the product is ready. They aren't stupid but it's taking longer than they planned to get it all done considering how much they've had to redo and fix. // Logistics / Scout / Dropship Pilot Trainee // https://twitter.com/reesnoturana
Vyzion Eyri The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 2103	Posted - 2013.11.24 12:24:00 - [12] - Quote I should've saved all those threads where people specifically said the PS4 wouldn't be the end of DUST. The doomsayer threads simply attracted more trolls, which is why they became popular opinion because they hogged the front page. I'm pretty sure lots of us knew DUST wouldn't somehow instantly become a ghost town when the new console launched. And even if people slowly trickle away, the amount of times I've heard "DUST is the only game I've continuously played for x amount of time" is really uplifting, and it will probably apply to me as well (record is probably 2.5 years on 1 game). You'll probably come back, and even if you replace the PS3 and are physically unable to play, then it will nag the back of your mind until you can't help but re-install it. I tried stopping DUST and I got to two months, after which I started dreaming about dropships. "When nothing is going your way, go out of your way to do nothing."
Necandi Brasil DUST BRASIL S.A Covert Intervention 477	Posted - 2013.11.24 12:27:00 - [13] - Quote Where is DUST going ? Cause that's gonna decide what next gen console I'm buying. A DUST BRASIL S.A precisa de você ! Junte-se a nós ! Hey CCP, give me PvE!
Fizzer94 L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 923	Posted - 2013.11.24 12:29:00 - [14] - Quote Never buy a console at launch. I may or may not be here come 6 months from now. Depends on how much the price of ps4s have gone down by then. [+ªa¦Ç+¦++-ö-Å94] The Plasma Cannon is not underpowered. REMOVE ALL BPOs
Minako Nakajima Vortex State Empire Dark Taboo 38	Posted - 2013.11.24 12:30:00 - [15] - Quote I just got my rig so less Dust more Blacklight:R for me now... "Looks can kill." // Terminally Insane
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1269	Posted - 2013.11.24 12:37:00 - [16] - Quote PS4 hasn't had it's European release yet, so there's that. And then there's the slightly more cautious adopters who held back and are as we speak sniffing the winds for tidings of burning resin and hot plastic. But none of that really matters. Sooner or later the doomsayers will realize that there is nothing tougher, nothing harder to kill than New Eden. I'm still waiting for a developer to come along who has the balls to take CCP on in this market and give them some real competition. We will all profit from CCP having a real competitor. So far though, nobody has stepped up to the plate. Just more and more elaborate iterations on the accessible and meaningless games for the masses. I suppose they're afraid of offending palates weened on mcdonalds. And in the end, all those doomsayers are just over-sensitive loverboys jilted by CCP's independence ;) I support SP rollover.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 1536	Posted - 2013.11.24 12:39:00 - [17] - Quote The thing with the Doomberrypocalypsegeddon is that it's always "incoming". EVERYTHING'S GONNA FAIL IN THE END!!! DOOOOOOOOOOOMMM!!! Greedy Bastards' Hate Lord
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 3962	Posted - 2013.11.24 12:41:00 - [18] - Quote Oh look at that. A free to play shooter on a console that has none ( = no competition from F2P games) only gets 4.4k players as it's high level Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 900	Posted - 2013.11.24 12:43:00 - [19] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Oh look at that. A free to play shooter on a console that has none ( = no competition from F2P games) only gets 4.4k players as it's high level There's at least 2000 of us that are in it until the end. You can't buy that kind of loyalty. "I am a mercenary, I do as I need. I'll shed Amarrian blood for the freedom of my Minmitar allies but only for a price."
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1269	Posted - 2013.11.24 13:02:00 - [20] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Oh look at that. A free to play shooter on a console that has none ( = no competition from F2P games) only gets 4.4k players as it's high level A free to play shooter that was released deeply flawed, has terribad reviews and doesn't have any of it's design content yet ^.^ Silly cat. I support SP rollover.

Badonk Adonk Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 43	Posted - 2013.11.24 13:06:00 - [21] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Oh look at that. A free to play shooter on a console that has none ( = no competition from F2P games) only gets 4.4k players as it's high level There's at least 2000 of us that are in it until the end. You can't buy that kind of loyalty. Whoooooaaahhhh 2000........worldwide.......... you probably could buy that kind of loyalty.
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 901	Posted - 2013.11.24 13:12:00 - [22] - Quote Badonk Adonk wrote: Whoooooaaahhhh 2000........worldwide.......... you probably could buy that kind of loyalty. Do you know what Armored Core is? Quick question. "I am a mercenary, I do as I need. I'll shed Amarrian blood for the freedom of my Minmitar allies but only for a price."
ANON Illuminati 462	Posted - 2013.11.24 13:12:00 - [23] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: when we are able to buy PS4s (when there is stock) and when guys actually get them with a decent title, then we'll see how many continue to unplug the ps4 just to log onto dust. dual hdmi bud lol but nah trust me most wont come back it is an epic console *I Sware It Wasnt Me*
ANON Illuminati 462	Posted - 2013.11.24 13:16:00 - [24] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Oh look at that. A free to play shooter on a console that has none ( = no competition from F2P games) only gets 4.4k players as it's high level There's at least 2000 of us that are in it until the end. You can't buy that kind of loyalty. lol 2000 out of millions 'some playerbase. not even a spec or stain. *I Sware It Wasnt Me*
Badonk Adonk Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 43	Posted - 2013.11.24 13:19:00 - [25] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Badonk Adonk wrote: Whoooooaaahhhh 2000........worldwide.......... you probably could buy that kind of loyalty. Do you know what Armored Core is? Quick question. An irrelevant, overrated mech shoot em up
Kasote Denzara A Vulture 901	Posted - 2013.11.24 13:33:00 - [26] - Quote Badonk Adonk wrote: An irrelevant, overrated mech shoot em up So you're one of those people. Okay. "I am a mercenary, I do as I need. I'll shed Amarrian blood for the freedom of my Minmitar allies but only for a price."
Kevall Longstride DUST University Ivy League 697	Posted - 2013.11.24 13:37:00 - [27] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. Well, GAME.co.uk screwed up my order so I don't get mine till Tuesday... You sound like you're complaining lol. But seriously, the numbers have been holding steady and been showing a slight increase for the last 6 weeks. We're getting a lot more applications in D-UNI from players in Eve coming over to give Dust a go. 1.7 will have new Shiney and a shed load of fixes from what I hear, so my hopes for the game are as high as they've ever been to be honest. Sorry if such a positive post might scare some but they do happen. Mercenary Clone of Dennie Fleetfoot CEO of DUST University
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 538	Posted - 2013.11.24 13:54:00 - [28] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. LOL, your own link at the time I clicked on it, said max online in a 24 hour period was 4443. In other words, about the same as always. While this proves the doomsayers about ps4 may have initially been incorrect in thinking it would be an instant kill, it does not mean there is any growth to dust. There is not any growth to dust. Face it, this game will be like Mag. It will have a small but insanely devoted group of people that play it constantly. As a result, Dust can last about 4-5 years like mag did. It will not be the end all be all of gaming like you delude yourself into thinking. P.S. IWS you are also forgetting a couple of things regarding the next gen consoles. Some folks always wait a few months before getting next gen consoles to wait for the bugs to be fixed. So while they did not get them right away, they will get them in a few months. You are also not considering the fact that there will be a shortage of the next gen consoles in the US through the holiday season as it is next to impossible to find one right now in certain cities as they have sold out. There are folks that will continue to look for them and when they get their hands on a next gen, they may very well quit dust. They just do not have the ability to do so yet
Karl Marx II Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 121	Posted - 2013.11.24 14:09:00 - [29] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. Simple really some peopel came back to play the game in the hope that alot of the vets and protostompers had left to play something else on the PS4 etc (The protostompers are tryhards .. it is logical to thing that they'd have bought 1st Gen consoles) .. thats why my brother came back to play it but it's still the same so he is going back to not playing it on monday My Theme
Scheherazade VII 181	Posted - 2013.11.24 14:31:00 - [30] - Quote Jason Pearson wrote: Scheherazade VII wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I want CCP to do some television advertising, think of how many people want something new to play without having to buy the next-gen console. Get an advertisement on TV and reallllllly hammer home the free-to-play aspect, and I reckon DUST will have an influx of thousands of players. Still, 4,400 max for last night isn't too bad, maybe we will see 5,000+ consistently soon? No, you really don't want them advertising, it'll be money wasted with the game in a state atm, advertise when it's good and balanced. Also, PS4 isn't out in Europe yet is it? Good point and I agree. I should have put that in my post. No not yet, 29th November, we will wait and see what happens! From the beginning if this game had proper matchmaking, a proper new player experience and tutorials + TV advertising, then DUST would be a in different place. You can't get the game to a good standard and say "hey guys, come back...please...?" I like any increase in player count but I don't see how people will come back to DUST. It would be great if the matchmaking was in place when we had the player counts to make it viable. To chime in on the PS4 though, I won't be getting one for a while, not until all the good exclusives are released, really want some horror games. I think the PS4 will be in it's prime after 6 months. Really CCP should aim at getting DUST on the PS4 in the next year or really, what hope is there? GêÜGëêDUST VIDEOSGëêGêÜ

Guildo Crow ZionTCD Public Disorder. 162	Posted - 2013.11.24 14:34:00 - [31] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: They already have a TV advertisement, which they showcased at FanFest 2013. Woah. I actually really liked that. Any more info on this one? Which studio worked on it? where did it air? A higher rez version of this?
Borne Velvalor Endless Hatred 1016	Posted - 2013.11.24 14:35:00 - [32] - Quote The newborn player count has remained steady for a while now, yet the active amount of players has been steadily slowly decreasing. A month before 1.7, with free boosters, events, a triple SP week and a bonus 40-50k SP a week on tuesdays, you've managed to get the numbers back up. Good job, but it says nothing about longterm player retention. We'll see what happens when 1.7 comes out. We'll probably get another spike in newborn players and active players, then. Dust 514 is "doomed" if the downward trend continues, even if disrupted for a short period of time, through major content updates. I think Dust will have a cycle of losing active players and gaining active players between large updates, so it's hard to tell anything now. Many suits I've worn, many burdens I've borne, for the oaths I've sworn. Panda.
The Robot Devil Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 1267	Posted - 2013.11.24 15:06:00 - [33] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: PS4 hasn't had it's European release yet, so there's that. And then there's the slightly more cautious adopters who held back and are as we speak sniffing the winds for tidings of burning resin and hot plastic. But none of that really matters. Sooner or later the doomsayers will realize that there is nothing tougher, nothing harder to kill than New Eden. I'm still waiting for a developer to come along who has the balls to take CCP on in this market and give them some real competition. We will all profit from CCP having a real competitor. So far though, nobody has stepped up to the plate. Just more and more elaborate iterations on the accessible and meaningless games for the masses. I suppose they're afraid of offending palates weened on mcdonalds. And in the end, all those doomsayers are just over-sensitive loverboys jilted by CCP's independence ;) New Eden in a niche that is difficult to fill. We can complain and bemoan about CCP but you have to give it to them. They make one hell of a sci fi universe. I don't worry too much about the doomsayers because it isn't anything that EVE didn't go through. If EVE's past is an indication of our future then we are in for a good time. Dr. Gonzo: I hate to say this, but this place is getting to me. I think I'm getting the Fear.
IAmDuncanIdaho II R 0 N 1 N 152	Posted - 2013.11.24 15:12:00 - [34] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. Hehe but I can't play DUST on the PS4 or X-Box One thing :-p
Second Cerberus Tested In Production 54	Posted - 2013.11.24 15:21:00 - [35] - Quote Sorry, < 5,000 players on a system with 77 million sold doesn't say good things about the future of DUST. If people didn't bother to try a free game by now, what makes you think they will with next-gen consoles and true next-gen games becoming widely available over the next year? And don't tell me new content because one or two new weapons or suits per year is not going to draw new players. Also, someone has to pay for this development so we need those people willing to drop $500 on a FTP game. You may not like them and they don't deserve an "IWin" button, but we need them. Every person who states on this forum that they've spent "hundreds of dollars" is lol'd. With PS4 launch, tons of "old" PS3 games much better than DUST are going to be moving to the bargain bins. Even those willing to stay on the PS3 for financial reasons or PS4 availability are going to have many more great games to play on the cheap. Are they going to drop $50 or a $100 on DUST when the can get 5-10 games for the same money?
Marston VC SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1297	Posted - 2013.11.24 15:55:00 - [36] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Oh look at that. A free to play shooter on a console that has none ( = no competition from F2P games) only gets 4.4k players as it's high level If this game doesn't have more people 1 year from now, then yeah..... it might be doomed. But right now stagnation isn't such a terrible thing. There just isn't enough content yet. Marston VC, STB director
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Kinsho Swords Caldari State 118	Posted - 2013.11.24 16:12:00 - [37] - Quote Scheherazade VII wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I want CCP to do some television advertising, think of how many people want something new to play without having to buy the next-gen console. Get an advertisement on TV and reallllllly hammer home the free-to-play aspect, and I reckon DUST will have an influx of thousands of players. Still, 4,400 max for last night isn't too bad, maybe we will see 5,000+ consistently soon? They don't have to do that . A lot of people know about Dust 514 . More than you think , just look at YouTube and social media sights and you can tell that the game ( along with EVE ) is well known . A lot of features of and about this game is the key to it's success or failure . Trust me . Get the bugs out and fix some ( not even all but just some FOR NOW ) of the problems of this game and first the old players will come back and second some newer players will come because the players you have now will bring players as well as the old players ( when they come back ) so lets solve some of these problems and this game will be fine . CCP knows what they are doing ( half the time ... mad about my tanks still ) so let's just trust them and enjoy the ride . DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE ALREADY !!!! " BANE " of ALL vehicle users , Crush , Kill and Destroy ALL vehicles !!!!!
DUST Fiend OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 7948	Posted - 2013.11.24 16:15:00 - [38] - Quote Marston VC wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Oh look at that. A free to play shooter on a console that has none ( = no competition from F2P games) only gets 4.4k players as it's high level If this game doesn't have more people 1 year from now, then yeah..... it might be doomed. But right now stagnation isn't such a terrible thing. There just isn't enough content yet. To be honest, a lower player count is probably a good thing for us right now, considering how buggy and laggy the game can be. Best to keep it on the DL until we get PvE, EVE connection, smooth fps, stable balance and mechanics. This time next year is what will really start showing DUST's true colors. They're still building the foundation. It's close. Read / Vid / Stream
Joel II X AHPA 208	Posted - 2013.11.24 16:27:00 - [39] - Quote Give it time. By the time Destiny comes out, Dust 514 will only be dust in the wind.
Powerh8er Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men. 353	Posted - 2013.11.24 16:38:00 - [40] - Quote Its all going to hell... Slowly. Livin' large!

DeathwindRising ROGUE SPADES EoN. 129	Posted - 2013.11.24 16:40:00 - [41] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Oh look at that. A free to play shooter on a console that has none ( = no competition from F2P games) only gets 4.4k players as it's high level A free to play shooter that was released deeply flawed, has terribad reviews and doesn't have any of it's design content yet ^.^ Silly cat. lmao i loved that. itll be the 1st year anniversary of dust and it still wont have any of that CCP wanted in the game for release lol CCP shouldve gone the way of duke nukem forever and released "when it's done" of course DNF came out and sucked, so theres that too. lesson from this is to get the help you need to get things done in a reasonable time frame. crowd fund if need be, but get it done when you say itll be done, and dont use the term MMO as an excuse to release a product without even half of its content. Bad form CCP
EternalRMG KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 628	Posted - 2013.11.24 17:01:00 - [42] - Quote Lt Royal wrote: Scheherazade VII wrote: I want CCP to do some television advertising, think of how many people want something new to play without having to buy the next-gen console. Get an advertisement on TV and reallllllly hammer home the free-to-play aspect, and I reckon DUST will have an influx of thousands of players. Still, 4,400 max for last night isn't too bad, maybe we will see 5,000+ consistently soon? They already have a TV advertisement, which they showcased at FanFest 2013. It looks pretty good "Fight Togheter; Win Together" Duster Since: July 2012 Best DropShip Pilot; Soon To be best Jet Fighter Pilot
Alpha 443-6732 219	Posted - 2013.11.24 17:07:00 - [43] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. ccp is rigging the player stats jsccf conspiracy the jews will strike again AV =/= Completely dominate and render vehicles useless. AV = Counterpart of vehicles that combats vehicles.
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 1316	Posted - 2013.11.24 17:13:00 - [44] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. probably because the game has become more like cod "Please don't" GÿåForum warrior lvl.1Gÿå I Support SP Rollover, MAKE IT HAPPEN CCP !!!
xLuca Brasi Onikanabo Brigade Caldari State 116	Posted - 2013.11.24 21:23:00 - [45] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. as soon as they actually remove my bpo's im gone... and I wont be playing dust on the ps4 when it gets there years from now. SAY NO TO BPO REMOVALS!
Tebu Gan Dem Durrty Boyz 224	Posted - 2013.11.24 21:33:00 - [46] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: ovary obliterator wrote: gloating level = weak perhaps try a little more sarcasm or just learn to fly better maybe... :( I haven't crashed into any buildings all week... getting shot down another story. I know right, feel sorry for the dropships I drop in one shot. Nuff Said
Tech Ohm Eaven L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 955	Posted - 2013.11.24 21:38:00 - [47] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. try posting this again next weekend once I am home with my black friday game deals , new 70 inch hdtv, laptops , tablets. bench time for dust next weekend .....lol. Abandon Ship!, Abandon Ship!! Jumps into escape pod! Selected destination Planet PS4.
Lance 2ballzStrong SyNergy Gaming EoN. 4540	Posted - 2013.11.24 21:50:00 - [48] - Quote People that wanted to leave DUST are gone already (months now). I guess new people are playing. Wait a month or so till they realize they're grinding for no reason cuz they're still getting raped. ( ._.) <('.'<) "There there Mr. Heavy, it's not your fault CCP doesn't care about you"
jlpgaming2752 The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 13	Posted - 2013.11.24 21:53:00 - [49] - Quote Proof Dust needs to be fixed and returned to Chromosome. Subscribe to my YouTube channel for entertaining Dust videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/jlpgaming2752
Roy Ventus Foxhound Corporation General Tso's Alliance 595	Posted - 2013.11.24 21:55:00 - [50] - Quote I'd reckon that the PS4 will really buzz when MGSV, Destiny, and Watchdogs come alive on the consoles. Oh and there's Infamous: Second Son and the F2P Space Ninja Game(Which looks like it belongs in Dust because of the character models). >.> Dust has plenty of time to build itself up before placing a set on the PS4 before the playerbase is "stolen" away like these caller of the apocalypse players have been saying. "There once was a time when there wasn't a Roy Ventus and it wasn't much of a time at all." Roy Ventus

Avallo Kantor Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 244	Posted - 2013.11.24 22:36:00 - [51] - Quote There was a really well done post that was made a few months ago, I suggest you reread it (don't necro it though) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112030 Basically the sentiment and research is still much the same: Among Free to play Games concurrent logged in users are not as high as one expects, and the total player base isn't determined just by the "highest concurrent players" count that so many people are using from Eve Offline. Remember there is a -large- difference in scope between 4k players total vs 4k players logged in concurrently. The First indicates total population size, where as the second is only the cap of people playing at one time. Also, we can assume that sessions for the average player aren't that long. Using this link: http://www.pwc.com/us/en/industry/entertainment-media/publications/assets/pwc-video-gaming-and-content-consumption.pdf we can see an industry paper from Microsoft on the average play time per WEEK of many players. Using Pg 2 as a reference, we can see average weekly play times. Assuming everyone who plays DUST is in the "Heavy Gamer" category that still only shows 6.8 hrs a week spent on the game. Assuming 1 hr sessions, that isn't even enough (on average) to cover the entire peak time of each day. Not to mention the middling numbers (less than peak) that display the rest of the non-peak hours. Clearly one can see that the total player count is -far- higher than max players.
Vinsarrow New Eden Blades Of The Azure Zero-Day 99	Posted - 2013.11.24 22:50:00 - [52] - Quote It just goes to show the Love people have for Dust 514 we aren't going unless Dust 514 switches & that's final (This is especially pointed at CCP) DO YOU HEAR US CCP!!!!!!!!???
Aoena Rays Bragian Order Amarr Empire 385	Posted - 2013.11.25 02:59:00 - [53] - Quote I am pretty sure 4.4k is number of players in battle. Although to be sure tweet @CCP_CmdrWang to clarify...

CCP Cmdr Wang C C P C C P Alliance 2366	Posted - 2013.11.25 03:14:00 - [54] - Quote Did someone call my name? @Aoena, PCU is peak concurrent user and only measures highest number of players logged in to the game. There is a separate battle PCU that measures number of people in battles. WAU, is weekly active user, and is more commonly used to gauge player base size. @Vinsarrow, you had us at hello.

Michael Arck Anubis Prime Syndicate 1881	Posted - 2013.11.25 03:29:00 - [55] - Quote And the Y2K fear mongering fell silent that day...
Reefersmokintaz Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 68	Posted - 2013.11.25 04:26:00 - [56] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: PS4 hasn't had it's European release yet, so there's that. And then there's the slightly more cautious adopters who held back and are as we speak sniffing the winds for tidings of burning resin and hot plastic. But none of that really matters. Sooner or later the doomsayers will realize that there is nothing tougher, nothing harder to kill than New Eden. I'm still waiting for a developer to come along who has the balls to take CCP on in this market and give them some real competition. We will all profit from CCP having a real competitor. So far though, nobody has stepped up to the plate. Just more and more elaborate iterations on the accessible and meaningless games for the masses. I suppose they're afraid of offending palates weened on mcdonalds. And in the end, all those doomsayers are just over-sensitive loverboys jilted by CCP's independence ;) If Deep Silver and Egosoft were smart, SOMEHOW if they introduced an online universe, IMHO over time the X universe will kill EvE... I freakin love the X series. One thing that brought me to New Eden. Now that X Rebirth is out, I am gonna buy it and get lost for a few months lol. Deep Silver NEED to launch an online X game!
4447 Resolution XIII 847	Posted - 2013.11.25 04:42:00 - [57] - Quote CCP Cmdr Wang wrote: Did someone call my name? @Aoena, PCU is peak concurrent user and only measures highest number of players logged in to the game. There is a separate battle PCU that measures number of people in battles. WAU, is weekly active user, and is more commonly used to gauge player base size. @Vinsarrow, you had us at hello. If we get to 10k, can we have a BPO tank module Creep, Radiohead.
Ludvig Enraga KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 675	Posted - 2013.11.25 04:42:00 - [58] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. Nice promo, IWS. You did see the 6 month population graph I trust? Oh, sht! I just learned you can make a signature! Thanks, CCP! Forums are getting better!
dustwaffle Xer Cloud Consortium 684	Posted - 2013.11.25 05:26:00 - [59] - Quote Keep moving those goalposts
Asirius Medaius 690	Posted - 2013.11.25 05:46:00 - [60] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. Man, calm down, I'm leaving soon, just be patient; I have to wait for the PS4s to be restocked at my local GameStop, and then if 1.7 isn't as good as CCP hyped, I'm gone. (P.S.: I don't think 1.7 is going to make a lot of vehicle or AV users very happy, so I'm getting my shoes ready to head out the door just in case.) Signature coming soonGäó. [Level 9 Forum Warrior]

Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 387	Posted - 2013.11.25 06:14:00 - [61] - Quote i wont be buying a ps4 for at least a year. Even then i will likely buy a broken one off ebay and find youtube video's on how to fix it. So far it has worked well for me. I have fixed 7 ps3 systems (and permanently broken 3 when i attempted to remove the integrated heat sink) The money these companies want for these systems is much more than what they are worth to me personally. Maybe when the kids are older and they want to use the systems as well. On a side note the numbers for dust really aren't all that great. I dont even know of another game that i can think of that posts such low numbers.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10725	Posted - 2013.11.25 06:18:00 - [62] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: i wont be buying a ps4 for at least a year. Even then i will likely buy a broken one off ebay and find youtube video's on how to fix it. So far it has worked well for me. I have fixed 7 ps3 systems (and permanently broken 3 when i attempted to remove the integrated heat sink) The money these companies want for these systems is much more than what they are worth to me personally. Maybe when the kids are older and they want to use the systems as well. On a side note the numbers for dust really aren't all that great. I dont even know of another game that i can think of that posts such low numbers. Most other games don't even post at all. In general for not a top line (games that get plastered on front of every game website well after launch) product we're fairly average as some snooping around found out about other games. Some numbers revealed we're doing much better than some even who have a playing cocurrent numbers around the hundreds. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
Thurak1 Psygod9 D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 387	Posted - 2013.11.25 06:31:00 - [63] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Thurak1 wrote: i wont be buying a ps4 for at least a year. Even then i will likely buy a broken one off ebay and find youtube video's on how to fix it. So far it has worked well for me. I have fixed 7 ps3 systems (and permanently broken 3 when i attempted to remove the integrated heat sink) The money these companies want for these systems is much more than what they are worth to me personally. Maybe when the kids are older and they want to use the systems as well. On a side note the numbers for dust really aren't all that great. I dont even know of another game that i can think of that posts such low numbers. Most other games don't even post at all. In general for not a top line (games that get plastered on front of every game website well after launch) product we're fairly average as some snooping around found out about other games. Some numbers revealed we're doing much better than some even who have a playing cocurrent numbers around the hundreds. I hope so but i am new to the ps3 area i am used to numbers from PC games. But i guess a lot more people have a pc than a ps3.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10725	Posted - 2013.11.25 06:34:00 - [64] - Quote Thurak1 wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Thurak1 wrote: i wont be buying a ps4 for at least a year. Even then i will likely buy a broken one off ebay and find youtube video's on how to fix it. So far it has worked well for me. I have fixed 7 ps3 systems (and permanently broken 3 when i attempted to remove the integrated heat sink) The money these companies want for these systems is much more than what they are worth to me personally. Maybe when the kids are older and they want to use the systems as well. On a side note the numbers for dust really aren't all that great. I dont even know of another game that i can think of that posts such low numbers. Most other games don't even post at all. In general for not a top line (games that get plastered on front of every game website well after launch) product we're fairly average as some snooping around found out about other games. Some numbers revealed we're doing much better than some even who have a playing cocurrent numbers around the hundreds. I hope so but i am new to the ps3 area i am used to numbers from PC games. But i guess a lot more people have a pc than a ps3. Not everyone has steam either who which steam does provide numbers for at some companies own displeasures. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
DUST 514 Player 12345678914 Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 570	Posted - 2013.11.25 06:47:00 - [65] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. When you are basically down to your rusted on numbers it's not going to drop much, if at all which is pretty much what I anticipated.
IceStormers Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 89	Posted - 2013.11.25 11:21:00 - [66] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Not everyone has steam either who which steam does provide numbers for at some companies own displeasures. I still hope that once the basic content and gungame is fixed that CCP will put it on other platforms like the PS4 and the PC if we can steal some of the counterstrike numbers we are onto a winner CS = buy weapons and armor with money gained from combat Dust just goes to the next level and keep that money round after round right now there are 130k people playing CS in some form on steam these players are dedicated to quality gun game where deaths matter, hence never moving on to BF and COD, these are the players we want to educate to join us These players already know of New Eden but its not their game type, i dont want to pull players from EvE i want them from other games to grow New Eden as a whole, i want New Eden to cover as many game types as possible, get everyone involved However right now with the state of the game if it was ported to PC they will turn up play a few rounds and leave, our mouse controls are poor, its missing all the basic content, TTK is too low, Vehicles....... Give them time then move to other platforms release adverts and boost the player base, until then the odd spike means nothing, only the overall trend of player count matters my habbits have changed i no longer login and play, now i just login and play something else on the PC, wonder how many others have trouble forcing themselves to play this build? I Support SP Rollover Why is KB/M being ignored
Zelorian Dexter snr 8thDivision 73	Posted - 2013.11.25 11:29:00 - [67] - Quote Dust is like a drug I tried to quit but I always come back. I think its the female voice she brain washes you....... must buy some aurum
Aeon Amadi A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. Renegade Alliance 3901	Posted - 2013.11.25 11:41:00 - [68] - Quote Scheherazade VII wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I want CCP to do some television advertising, think of how many people want something new to play without having to buy the next-gen console. Get an advertisement on TV and reallllllly hammer home the free-to-play aspect, and I reckon DUST will have an influx of thousands of players. Still, 4,400 max for last night isn't too bad, maybe we will see 5,000+ consistently soon? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjjKfAdJ-Y0 ^^^^ They just need to air that already. I Support SP Rollover ^_^
Echoist Fenrir's Wolves Zero-Day 91	Posted - 2013.11.25 11:43:00 - [69] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Oh look at that. A free to play shooter on a console that has none ( = no competition from F2P games) only gets 4.4k players as it's high level A free to play shooter that was released deeply flawed, has terribad reviews and doesn't have any of it's design content yet ^.^ https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=rsstopic&pg=posts&t=122678 Silly cat. All that and it can still manage to get 4.4k players I'd say that's extremely impressive. Can't wait till they port to the ps4.
Niuvo NECROM0NGERS 816	Posted - 2013.11.25 11:53:00 - [70] - Quote I like my PS3. If I could play my games on the new console it would be sweet, but NO. $400 for what?? Same old, meaningless games? I don't know about "next-gen" yet. I may get the product later down the line, but for now, nah. 4k players and you still find close matches. I like the mature community here. No quickscope crap.

4447 Resolution XIII 854	Posted - 2013.11.25 12:15:00 - [71] - Quote Niuvo wrote: I like my PS3. If I could play my games on the new console it would be sweet, but NO. $400 for what?? Same old, meaningless games? I don't know about "next-gen" yet. I may get the product later down the line, but for now, nah. 4k players and you still find close matches. I like the mature community here. No quickscope crap. Quote, "Mature." <---- This is Dust 514 right Troll, For lifeGÇª But maybe a dragon, uh a bigger dragon.
4447 Resolution XIII 854	Posted - 2013.11.25 12:17:00 - [72] - Quote Aeon Amadi wrote: Scheherazade VII wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I want CCP to do some television advertising, think of how many people want something new to play without having to buy the next-gen console. Get an advertisement on TV and reallllllly hammer home the free-to-play aspect, and I reckon DUST will have an influx of thousands of players. Still, 4,400 max for last night isn't too bad, maybe we will see 5,000+ consistently soon? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjjKfAdJ-Y0 ^^^^ They just need to air that already. Watch it again but, replace Dust 514 with ice-cream man. Troll, For lifeGÇª But maybe a dragon, uh a bigger dragon.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1278	Posted - 2013.11.25 13:06:00 - [73] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Scheherazade VII wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I want CCP to do some television advertising, think of how many people want something new to play without having to buy the next-gen console. Get an advertisement on TV and reallllllly hammer home the free-to-play aspect, and I reckon DUST will have an influx of thousands of players. Still, 4,400 max for last night isn't too bad, maybe we will see 5,000+ consistently soon? They don't have to do that . A lot of people know about Dust 514 . More than you think , just look at YouTube and social media sights and you can tell that the game ( along with EVE ) is well known . A lot of features of and about this game is the key to it's success or failure . Trust me . Get the bugs out and fix some ( not even all but just some FOR NOW ) of the problems of this game and first the old players will come back and second some newer players will come because the players you have now will bring players as well as the old players ( when they come back ) so lets solve some of these problems and this game will be fine . CCP knows what they are doing ( half the time ... mad about my tanks still ) so let's just trust them and enjoy the ride . DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE ALREADY !!!! +1. I had to quote this. Great analysis, Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui(love that name!). I think you nailed it. Why are we still here? Simply put, DUST is revolutionary. We all intuit that if CCP can execute, the results will manifest as something beyond 'mindblowing'. By now the entire industry and a large part of the potential playerbase has some inkling of this, and is also aware that there are technical problems. But many peeps are watching, reading articles, checking in occasionally to see for themselves. If CCP can clean up their mess(and they are) and move ahead with core systems, content and meaningful gameplay, DUST's numbers have the potential to change very quickly. We need much more than will be in 1.7, however, 1.11 seems like a reasonable estimate for us having all of our core FPS systems and content in place. I support SP rollover.
steadyhand amarr Bragian Order Amarr Empire 1963	Posted - 2013.11.25 13:24:00 - [74] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. With 1.7 I will unhappily admit Dust514 is still better than most next gen games. I just hope they fix ttk because I can only managed like 3 games before it pisses me off and I quit :-( "my faith is my shield, the empress's light my guide and my fury my sword" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
knight of 6 SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 690	Posted - 2013.11.25 13:50:00 - [75] - Quote dust 514 has less glitches than BF4 on the ps3. wtf dice. also, on the subject of the tv spot, ccp has done a great job not airing that (0% sacrasm). tell me if you just picked up the game would you stay? if you have no idea why I'd ask that, fire up an alt and see what happens or even better fire up an alt hand the controller to a friend and see what happens. has this changed? is having 5 matches of academy then being proto stomped better than just being proto stomped? "God favors the side with the best artillery" ~ Napoleon Ko6, scout, tanker. CLOSED BETA VET
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4029	Posted - 2013.11.25 13:57:00 - [76] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Oh look at that. A free to play shooter on a console that has none ( = no competition from F2P games) only gets 4.4k players as it's high level A free to play shooter that was released deeply flawed, has terribad reviews and doesn't have any of it's design content yet ^.^ Silly cat. Out of 80 million PS3's, when the price tag is 0, at least some people will stay. Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Cat Merc Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 4029	Posted - 2013.11.25 13:58:00 - [77] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Oh look at that. A free to play shooter on a console that has none ( = no competition from F2P games) only gets 4.4k players as it's high level There's at least 2000 of us that are in it until the end. You can't buy that kind of loyalty. Of course you can, it's called the Exile Assault Rifle :P Shield regeneration bonus for Gallente Assault is about as useful as Sharpshooter for Nova Knives.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 749	Posted - 2013.11.25 14:06:00 - [78] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. CCP is bribing us to stay this week with trinkets. Other games don't have to do that to get people to stay. It's always nice to log in periodically and prance around a bit for freebies. Doesn't mean people care about this game beyond a humorous aside. Kittens are cute. You play with them, but you don't really take them seriously. "It's made with bits of real Gallente. So you know it's good." -GÇö Brian Fantana paraphrased
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 749	Posted - 2013.11.25 14:08:00 - [79] - Quote Cat Merc wrote: Kasote Denzara wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Oh look at that. A free to play shooter on a console that has none ( = no competition from F2P games) only gets 4.4k players as it's high level There's at least 2000 of us that are in it until the end. You can't buy that kind of loyalty. Of course you can, it's called the Exile Assault Rifle :P Buy loyalty? Lol. My friend you have not partaken of the fruit that is calledGÇª a hooker. "It's made with bits of real Gallente. So you know it's good." -GÇö Brian Fantana paraphrased
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 87	Posted - 2013.11.25 18:33:00 - [80] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Scheherazade VII wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I want CCP to do some television advertising, think of how many people want something new to play without having to buy the next-gen console. Get an advertisement on TV and reallllllly hammer home the free-to-play aspect, and I reckon DUST will have an influx of thousands of players. Still, 4,400 max for last night isn't too bad, maybe we will see 5,000+ consistently soon? They don't have to do that . A lot of people know about Dust 514 . More than you think , just look at YouTube and social media sights and you can tell that the game ( along with EVE ) is well known . A lot of features of and about this game is the key to it's success or failure . Trust me . Get the bugs out and fix some ( not even all but just some FOR NOW ) of the problems of this game and first the old players will come back and second some newer players will come because the players you have now will bring players as well as the old players ( when they come back ) so lets solve some of these problems and this game will be fine . CCP knows what they are doing ( half the time ... mad about my tanks still ) so let's just trust them and enjoy the ride . DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE 1.7 DIE ALREADY !!!! A lot of people might know Dust but how many actually think the game is good and/or play it? And how many is actually "a lot" and how many of them are people from Eve , Dust players, and known about Eve vs people that don't know anything about dust?

Yelhsa Jin-Mao GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 157	Posted - 2013.11.25 18:47:00 - [81] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Oh look at that. A free to play shooter on a console that has none ( = no competition from F2P games) only gets 4.4k players as it's high level There's at least 2000 of us that are in it until the end. You can't buy that kind of loyalty. I'm sure MW1, 2, 3 and W@W still pull in at least 10X this number each still. I can has ISK
Jak'Saan 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 140	Posted - 2013.11.25 19:10:00 - [82] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. Wow you really are the worst CPM ever... dude seriously go home. Anyway, down to it: here's a little statistics for our genius CPM based on weekly peaks: Oct 26 active players: 4156 Oct 26 new players: 767 Nov 2 active players: 4180 Nov 2 new players: 667 ... where did all the new players from Oct 26 go? wait let's give Nov another chance. Nov 9 active players: 4398 Nov 9 new players: 661 getting better... so far 242 out of the previous 1434 new players stuck around. Maybe there is more to come? Nov 16 active players: 4073???? what happened? Nov 16 new players: 826 Let me get this straight... so far -83 of the previous 2095 new players of previous weeks stuck around? Lets do one more week: Nov 23 active players: 3875 Nov 23 new players: 801 Ok so far? -281 of the previous 2921 new players stuck around. Or better put... ALL new players have left and 281 vets have left... but you are right... today is a good day. Let's also keep in mind that Nov events were basically a bribe to all players to come back online. Imagine if there was no bribe?
Avinash Decker Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic 87	Posted - 2013.11.25 19:18:00 - [83] - Quote Jak'Saan wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. Wow you really are the worst CPM ever... dude seriously go home. Anyway, down to it: here's a little statistics for our genius CPM based on weekly peaks: Oct 26 active players: 4156 Oct 26 new players: 767 Nov 2 active players: 4180 Nov 2 new players: 667 ... where did all the new players from Oct 26 go? wait let's give Nov another chance. Nov 9 active players: 4398 Nov 9 new players: 661 getting better... so far 242 out of the previous 1434 new players stuck around. Maybe there is more to come? Nov 16 active players: 4073???? what happened? Nov 16 new players: 826 Let me get this straight... so far -83 of the previous 2095 new players of previous weeks stuck around? Lets do one more week: Nov 23 active players: 3875 Nov 23 new players: 801 Ok so far? -281 of the previous 2921 new players stuck around. Or better put... ALL new players have left and 281 vets have left... but you are right... today is a good day. Let's also keep in mind that Nov events were basically a bribe to all players to come back online. Imagine if there was no bribe? No today isn't a good day Ironwolf took the day which historically has the highest population which is usually Saturday or Sunday and called it a "good day" .
Jak'Saan 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 140	Posted - 2013.11.25 19:20:00 - [84] - Quote Avinash Decker wrote: Jak'Saan wrote: ...but you are right... today is a good day. No today isn't a good day Ironwolf took the day which traditional has the highest population which is usually Saturday or Sunday . Lol you're right. My apologies. Sunday was a good day. That voids my entire argument.
Mobius Wyvern Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY 3855	Posted - 2013.11.25 19:22:00 - [85] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: when we are able to buy PS4s (when there is stock) and when guys actually get them with a decent title, then we'll see how many continue to unplug the ps4 just to log onto dust. Unplug the PS4? Are you citing lack of power outlets or lack of HDMI/Component ports? Amidst the blue skies A link from past to future The sheltering wings of the protector
Jak'Saan 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 140	Posted - 2013.11.25 19:27:00 - [86] - Quote BTW, I forgot to mention: OP == fail!
Jacques Cayton II Providence Guard Templis Dragonaors 121	Posted - 2013.11.25 19:38:00 - [87] - Quote Fizzer94 wrote: Never buy a console at launch. I may or may not be here come 6 months from now. Depends on how much the price of ps4s have gone down by then. So very true We fight for the future of the State not our personal goals
Jak'Saan 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 142	Posted - 2013.11.25 20:03:00 - [88] - Quote Op? Are you there? You must be sick, are you ok? You have nothing to say to this, and you've found lots of cause to mindlessly argue in the past... don't you like numbers?
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10762	Posted - 2013.11.25 20:36:00 - [89] - Quote Jak'Saan wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. Wow you really are the worst CPM ever... dude seriously go home. Anyway, down to it: here's a little statistics for our genius CPM based on weekly peaks: Oct 26 active players: 4156 Oct 26 new players: 767 Nov 2 active players: 4180 Nov 2 new players: 667 ... where did all the new players from Oct 26 go? wait let's give Nov another chance. Nov 9 active players: 4398 Nov 9 new players: 661 getting better... so far 242 out of the previous 1434 new players stuck around. Maybe there is more to come? Nov 16 active players: 4073???? what happened? Nov 16 new players: 826 Let me get this straight... so far -83 of the previous 2095 new players of previous weeks stuck around? Lets do one more week: Nov 23 active players: 3875 Nov 23 new players: 801 Ok so far? -281 of the previous 2921 new players stuck around. Or better put... ALL new players have left and 281 vets have left... but you are right... today is a good day. Let's also keep in mind that Nov events were basically a bribe to all players to come back online. Imagine if there was no bribe? Sigh I am not bad at reading graphs, I just don't have the means to read the graphs like Mr. Veldspar does. In order to measure the entire player base you have to measure the area of the frequency above zero for 30 instances of the frequency. Also all the math I been taught so far only measure area of a frequency if the frequency is bell shaped perfectly (normally distributed) which is highly possible to do if you rearrange the numbers on a single instance of the frequency. From there you get you find your deviation, tolerances, and zscores and do the math. Bunch of boring stuff really. That aside your conclusion that new born players are not translating into new players participating has a factor you may not accounted for. That its counting characters, not accounts. So unless we know how many alts are being made a day we're having a bad means telling who's what. You are right to assumed that despite the alt factors that some of these new players should be translating to higher numbers throughout the day but like I said unless you're measuring the volumes of the frequency over a period of time you're not going to be getting an accurate number. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
Jak'Saan 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 145	Posted - 2013.11.25 20:43:00 - [90] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Sigh I am not bad at reading graphs, I just don't have the means to read the graphs like Mr. Veldspar does (and is a wee bit to lazy to figure API hooks out, I'm a hardware sort of tech person not software) . In order to measure the entire player base you have to measure the area of the frequency above zero for 30 instances of the frequency. Also all the math I been taught so far only measure area of a frequency if the frequency is bell shaped perfectly (normally distributed) which is highly possible to do if you rearrange the numbers on a single instance of the frequency. From there you get you find your deviation, tolerances, and zscores and do the math. Bunch of boring stuff really. That aside your conclusion that new born players are not translating into new players participating has a factor you may not accounted for. That its counting characters, not accounts. So unless we know how many alts are being made a day we're having a bad means telling who's what. You are right to assumed that despite the alt factors that some of these new players should be translating to higher numbers throughout the day but like I said unless you're measuring the volumes of the frequency over a period of time you're not going to be getting an accurate number. Ok so let's do it your way by only choosing days that support me. Where you took the highest day last week, I will take the lowest of days last week and compare it to the plataux of recent. And then I will win. Sound fair? Also... all this means is Dust is dying slower this month. Well done.

Iskandar Zul Karnain Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 2449	Posted - 2013.11.25 20:50:00 - [91] - Quote Geez... Can't make a positive post in these parts without getting pooped all over. Haters love the Dust forums HellsGÇáorm, Director Bringing the Wrath of God down on the Matari since YC114
howard sanchez DUST University Ivy League 812	Posted - 2013.11.25 20:50:00 - [92] - Quote Hilarious that IWS makes a 'poke in the eye' post to all the haters and gets page after page of responses... So many names in this thread that I haven't seen in a while. Welcome back bitches! Like you ever left... :)
Yelhsa Jin-Mao GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 160	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:05:00 - [93] - Quote Echoist wrote: Vrain Matari wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Oh look at that. A free to play shooter on a console that has none ( = no competition from F2P games) only gets 4.4k players as it's high level A free to play shooter that was released deeply flawed, has terribad reviews and doesn't have any of it's design content yet ^.^ https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=rsstopic&pg=posts&t=122678 Silly cat. All that and it can still manage to get 4.4k players I'd say that's extremely impressive. Can't wait till they port to the ps4. You will be waiting a very long time in that case I can has ISK
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10763	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:12:00 - [94] - Quote Jak'Saan wrote: Ok so let's do it your way by only choosing days that support me. Where you took the highest day last week, I will take the lowest of days last week and compare it to the plataux of recent. And then I will win. Sound fair? Also... all this means is Dust is dying slower this month. Well done. Uhm you just proved you failed at reading. http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2012/07/13/business/economy/economix-13nalp2011/economix-13nalp2011-blog480.jpg This graph represents what I am meaning that needs measurement. The big hill is more to the left is more preferable to have over the spike to the left. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
Jak'Saan 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 147	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:16:00 - [95] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The big hill is more to the left is more preferable to have over the spike to the left. I suck at reading? Maybe I do, cause clearly I suck at reading this line... couldn't possibly be that you suck at writing lol.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10763	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:17:00 - [96] - Quote Jak'Saan wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The big hill is more to the left is more preferable to have over the spike to the left. I suck at reading? Maybe I do, cause clearly I suck at reading this line... couldn't possibly be that you suck at writing lol. It did forced you to open the picture didn't it? CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
Crash Monster Snipers Anonymous 1815	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:22:00 - [97] - Quote Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Kittens are cute. You play with them, but you don't really take them seriously. Unless you have rodents.
Jak'Saan 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 147	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:29:00 - [98] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: It did forced you to open the picture didn't it? Yeah... cause verifying a counter-argument's information source is considered un-intelligent. Well played.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10766	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:33:00 - [99] - Quote Crash Monster wrote: Operative 1171 Aajli wrote: Kittens are cute. You play with them, but you don't really take them seriously. Unless you have rodents. Friend of mine took me to his farm where his mother kept a large number of cats to keep mice away, the pack done caught themselves a rabbit and tore into a bit and let the kittens have at it. To see what i normally thought to be a white kitten to pop out of the rabbit's gut like the larva from aliens was a bit scary. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
BMSTUBBY 340	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:37:00 - [100] - Quote * Opens up troll thread * * Sees that troll thread was started by a CCP elected CPM * * https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=999109#post999109 * * Leaves thread * I used to play DUST514 but then CCP took a COD arrow to their knee. MMO Someday SoonGäó

Jak'Saan 3dge of D4rkness SoulWing Alliance 151	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:39:00 - [101] - Quote BMSTUBBY wrote: * Opens up troll thread * * Sees that troll thread was started by a CCP elected CPM * * https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=999109#post999109 * * Leaves thread * Seriously, not even exaggerating. Worst. CPM. Ever. You sure set the bar low buddy.
Necandi Brasil DUST BRASIL S.A Covert Intervention 487	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:42:00 - [102] - Quote CCP Cmdr Wang wrote: Did someone call my name? @Aoena, PCU is peak concurrent user and only measures highest number of players logged in to the game. There is a separate battle PCU that measures number of people in battles. WAU, is weekly active user, and is more commonly used to gauge player base size. @Vinsarrow, you had us at hello. Good to see you Cmdr Wang, Can we have some videos of dust developer diaries ? I kinda miss those... A DUST BRASIL S.A precisa de você ! Junte-se a nós ! Hey CCP, give me PvE!
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1219	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:46:00 - [103] - Quote 4000 IWS is the same bloody players that made up their mind that they were staying. many left for GTA5 and way before that. Ps4 may have grabbed a few. and xbone. But 4000 seems to me about the regular. Before and after ps4. the eve loyalists and the new guys.
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 1220	Posted - 2013.11.25 21:51:00 - [104] - Quote Vrain Matari wrote: PS4 hasn't had it's European release yet, so there's that. And then there's the slightly more cautious adopters who held back and are as we speak sniffing the winds for tidings of burning resin and hot plastic. But none of that really matters. Sooner or later the doomsayers will realize that there is nothing tougher, nothing harder to kill than New Eden. I'm still waiting for a developer to come along who has the balls to take CCP on in this market and give them some real competition. We will all profit from CCP having a real competitor. So far though, nobody has stepped up to the plate. Just more and more elaborate iterations on the accessible and meaningless games for the masses. I suppose they're afraid of offending palates weened on mcdonalds. And in the end, all those doomsayers are just over-sensitive loverboys jilted by CCP's independence ;) BF 1943 puts out more numbers then dust. and how old is that game? Vegas 2? **** even unreal tournament puts on a better showing. If you meant eve online, then I agree. FPS market? Dust arrived DOA.
Vrain Matari ZionTCD Public Disorder. 1283	Posted - 2013.11.26 00:06:00 - [105] - Quote howard sanchez wrote: Hilarious that IWS makes a 'poke in the eye' post to all the haters and gets page after page of responses... So many names in this thread that I haven't seen in a while. Welcome back bitches! Like you ever left... :) But i thought DUST was dead? GTAV killed it, right? Or was it CoD Ghosts? Or maybe BF4? The PS4? Killzone? The XBOX? I dunno, i forget them all. But i'm pretty sure one of those titans killed DUST - the haters said so - just before they left. But didn't leave. Right? I support SP rollover.
Zene Ren Bullet Cluster Legacy Rising 7	Posted - 2013.11.26 00:16:00 - [106] - Quote PS 4 still only available for USA... EU will get it this weak if i'm not mistaken.... PS. still waiting for all racial suits/weapons/vehicles/infrastructure...
Evicer THE HECATONCHIRES 68	Posted - 2013.11.26 00:54:00 - [107] - Quote I really didnt want to be "that" guy but Im pretty sure a CCP person said there is 80 million PS3's in the world right now......... Im thinking 4,400 player population is a far cry from the potential a fore mentioned amount of 80 million potential users. SO how bout we quit bragging about player population, talking about ways to rip off our already existing paying customers by removing content ie BPO's .Reversing there decision to port to PS4 at release and get this game to where it was "hyped" to be at. back to work.... Closed Beta Tester since Crater Lake My motto regarding haters http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8gAb3uc6f
Asirius Medaius 692	Posted - 2013.11.26 01:01:00 - [108] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Jak'Saan wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The big hill is more to the left is more preferable to have over the spike to the left. I suck at reading? Maybe I do, cause clearly I suck at reading this line... couldn't possibly be that you suck at writing lol. It did forced you to open the picture didn't it? "It did forced"? First off, you don't have a damn clue what you are talking about when it comes to statistics (applied mathematics major here, so don't even conceive the idea that you know what you are saying); second off, how the hell did you get into CPM when you type with as much incorrect grammar as you do? I guess CCP hired you for your skills of subterfuge and your ability to play with their "smokes and mirrors" routine, but this is plain ridiculous. Go back to school, and then come back and talk to the big boys when you are ready to become a real productive member of CPM. P.S.: Your attitude and what you represent, is the one of the prime reasons CCP is failing in their mission to keep players playing Dust 514. Signature coming soonGäó. [Level 9 Forum Warrior]
Zyrus Amalomyn Militaires-Sans-Frontieres 276	Posted - 2013.11.26 01:01:00 - [109] - Quote Anarchide wrote: The thing with the Doomberrypocalypsegeddon is that it's always "incoming". EVERYTHING'S GONNA FAIL IN THE END!!! DOOOOOOOOOOOMMM!!! Warhammer Online failed.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 2001	Posted - 2013.11.26 01:14:00 - [110] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: when we are able to buy PS4s (when there is stock) and when guys actually get them with a decent title, then we'll see how many continue to unplug the ps4 just to log onto dust. I know a lot of people still logging plenty of Dust time despite having a PS4. We should just accept the love hate relationship and come to terms that we really like Dust. I'm bored with the content, but I still love the game. Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.

Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 2002	Posted - 2013.11.26 01:37:00 - [111] - Quote Asirius Medaius wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Jak'Saan wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: The big hill is more to the left is more preferable to have over the spike to the left. I suck at reading? Maybe I do, cause clearly I suck at reading this line... couldn't possibly be that you suck at writing lol. It did forced you to open the picture didn't it? "It did forced"? First off, you don't have a damn clue what you are talking about when it comes to statistics (applied mathematics major here, so don't even conceive the idea that you know what you are saying); second off, how the hell did you get into CPM when you type with as much incorrect grammar as you do? I guess CCP hired you for your skills of subterfuge and your ability to play with their "smokes and mirrors" routine, but this is plain ridiculous. Go back to school, and then come back and talk to the big boys when you are ready to become a real productive member of CPM. P.S.: Your attitude and what you represent, is the one of the prime reasons CCP is failing in their mission to keep players playing Dust 514. It's really a shame all the flak that IWS gets. Before he had the CPM tag people respected his posts (many people still do). It was universally expected he'd be a CPM. Remove time in battle from ISK payout formula and provide a bonus to winning team... Watch battles become fun again.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 4327	Posted - 2013.11.26 01:55:00 - [112] - Quote CCP Cmdr Wang wrote: Did someone call my name? @Aoena, PCU is peak concurrent user and only measures highest number of players logged in to the game. There is a separate battle PCU that measures number of people in battles. WAU, is weekly active user, and is more commonly used to gauge player base size. @Vinsarrow, you had us at hello. Yeah we do love CCP.....I just like to throw tantrums as I wait for St Wolfman to deliver unto us immortal men and women, the Platinum Amarrian HAV. "All things were created by the Divine, and so the glory of our faith is inherent to us all"
LOS HAWK Science For Death 81	Posted - 2013.11.26 07:28:00 - [113] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: Cat Merc wrote: Oh look at that. A free to play shooter on a console that has none ( = no competition from F2P games) only gets 4.4k players as it's high level There's at least 2000 of us that are in it until the end. You can't buy that kind of loyalty. Give this man a ***** medal what a bad ass you *** gave it to that *
Chibi Andy Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 658	Posted - 2013.11.26 08:32:00 - [114] - Quote Kasote Denzara wrote: PS4 currently has nothing I want other than Killzone. Xbox One is prone to failure and has nothing I'll ever want. I'm getting the WiiU for Monster Hunter and Pikman. My PS3 has at least half a decade left in it. Look at all these needless spaces. you my friend might just be a fellow mon hun buddy though i wont be getting the WiiU for that, still busy playing mon hun 3rd HD on the ps3 so its all good hehe YOU HAVE BEEN SCANNED!!! sç+a¦át¢èa¦á)sç+ (pâÄa¦át¢èa¦á)pâÄs+íGö+GöüGö+
Spectral Clone Dust2Dust. Top Men. 610	Posted - 2013.11.26 09:09:00 - [115] - Quote Everyone will be gone SoonGäó or LaterGäó. KDR > ALL ME > KDR ME > ALL
dustwaffle Xer Cloud Consortium 686	Posted - 2013.11.27 04:42:00 - [116] - Quote Jak'Saan wrote: Wow you really are the worst CPM ever... dude seriously go home. Anyway, down to it: here's a little statistics for our genius CPM based on weekly peaks: Proceeds to show us very bad maths Statistics 101 is ---------------------------------------------> that way
Slick Saan FotM 514 0	Posted - 2013.11.27 06:15:00 - [117] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: Jak'Saan wrote: Wow you really are the worst CPM ever... dude seriously go home. Anyway, down to it: here's a little statistics for our genius CPM based on weekly peaks: Proceeds to show us very bad maths Statistics 101 is ---------------------------------------------> that way Lol! You do realize the math adds up right? So if we take into account all the new players: Current week active players - first week active players SHOULD EQUAL: First week active players + all or at least a small portion of new players since First week. Instead what we see is: Current week active players < First week active players + ALL new players since first week. Or better described as, players are quitting faster than they are joining.
BMSTUBBY 353	Posted - 2013.11.28 14:15:00 - [118] - Quote Hey Iron Wolf Saber WTH? Where are the tens of thousands of DUST Players? It is a major US holiday with millions of kids and adults home today. Heck kids have been home since yesterday. These are the numbers that this game gets: Currently online: 2,506 Max (24h): 4,062 (2013-11-27 22:53:00) 85 million PS3's world wide. Dusters - MMO WhenGäó ? CCP - MMO SoonGäó .
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10838	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:03:00 - [119] - Quote BMSTUBBY wrote: Hey Iron Wolf Saber WTH? Where are the tens of thousands of DUST Players? It is a major US holiday with millions of kids and adults home today. Heck kids have been home since yesterday. These are the numbers that this game gets: Currently online: 2,506 Max (24h): 4,062 (2013-11-27 22:53:00) 85 million PS3's world wide. hey millions of Steam users, only 500 bother playing star conflict http://steamcharts.com/app/212070 1k play black light retribution a game lauded to be much better than Dust 514. http://steamcharts.com/app/209870 6k for planetside 2 http://steamcharts.com/app/218230 Number of Steam Users 65 million. What does this mean? Quite a few folks didn't buy a ps3 for a singular game. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier Specialist Current Theme \\= Advanced Scrambler Rifle =// Unlocked
soulreaper73 PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies 546	Posted - 2013.11.28 20:43:00 - [120] - Quote As I mentioned in another thread, Dust is very similar to Mag's track. Mag's player base dwindled quickly just like Dust. Those that remained were a fanatical fan base that kept a broken game going on for 4 years. (yes it will be four years come January which is its last month to live.) Dust seems like its fanatical fan base can keep it alive for about 4-5 years as well. However, it will need to eventually port to PS4 to do so. So relax hardcore dust players. Your game will not die anytime soon. It may be a ghost town with the same folks in lobbies over and over, but hey so was mag and it survived longer than it should have.

BMSTUBBY 355	Posted - 2013.11.28 22:52:00 - [121] - Quote soulreaper73 wrote: As I mentioned in another thread, Dust is very similar to Mag's track. Mag's player base dwindled quickly just like Dust. Those that remained were a fanatical fan base that kept a broken game going on for 4 years. (yes it will be four years come January which is its last month to live.) Dust seems like its fanatical fan base can keep it alive for about 4-5 years as well. However, it will need to eventually port to PS4 to do so. So relax hardcore dust players. Your game will not die anytime soon. It may be a ghost town with the same folks in lobbies over and over, but hey so was mag and it survived longer than it should have. Yes proto stomping for 3 years and then death, lol. Dusters - MMO WhenGäó ? CCP - MMO SoonGäó .
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 640	Posted - 2013.11.29 00:36:00 - [122] - Quote Dust gives us something. I am not sure what. These forums are a waste of time tho. Fu(k you all. (see u in a month orso).
Slick Saan FotM 514 0	Posted - 2013.11.29 01:15:00 - [123] - Quote It should also be noted that the stats here are REALLY generous. The stats only include new players of that ONE day... Not all week long. The numbers would be much worse if all 7 days in the week were counted.
Darken-Sol BIG BAD W0LVES 640	Posted - 2013.11.29 02:42:00 - [124] - Quote I thought I'd be banned by now.
KING CHECKMATE AMARR IMPERIAL CRUSADERS 2512	Posted - 2013.11.29 02:48:00 - [125] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. I still dont have $ for a Ps4. Me poor you see... The Best Damage Mod, its a Headshot....
Tectonic Fusion 629	Posted - 2013.11.29 03:11:00 - [126] - Quote Lol at these posts :3 Solo Player Squad status: Locked
dustwaffle Xer Cloud Consortium 699	Posted - 2013.11.29 07:39:00 - [127] - Quote Slick Saan wrote: dustwaffle wrote: Jak'Saan wrote: Wow you really are the worst CPM ever... dude seriously go home. Anyway, down to it: here's a little statistics for our genius CPM based on weekly peaks: Proceeds to show us very bad maths Statistics 101 is ---------------------------------------------> that way Lol! You do realize the math adds up right? So if we take into account all the new players: Current week active players - first week active players SHOULD EQUAL: First week active players + all or at least a small portion of new players since First week. Instead what we see is: Current week active players < First week active players + ALL new players since first week. Or better described as, players are quitting faster than they are joining. Ok, since it's a Friday and I'm feeling too lazy to work: The numbers you quote do not indicate active players. They show player counts online at a given time. That means, on the assumption that there is overlap between different players playing at different times, and that average play time is 2-4 hours a day, you'd be looking at an active total playercount much higher than the quote 3000-4000. Next, you have the X number of new characters created. The new characters created could either be old players creating alts, or new players creating accounts and creating characters. Therefore a more accurate indicator would be new accounts created, which unfortunately we don't have the numbers for. This is not to say that even if we had this number, we could derive anything from it, since it's hard to track how many unique new players there are as opposed to an old player creating an alt account. Even if we assume all new characters created are unique new players, you have to factor in that they will not ALL be playing at the same time, and at the peak time at that. Therefore, even if you have 800 new characters created in a day, you would probably only see a bump of an additional 20-30 players on at a given time. This isn't to say that Dust isn't losing subscribers. But it's not losing it at the hyperbolic Dust-Is-Dead/Dying rate you're prescribing in both this thread (backed up by **** maths due to lack of understanding graphs) or the other thread you started (also backed by ** maths). CCP has, in the past and present, acknowledged that new player retention is a key problem. They also, however, understand that there is always that core base of players to whom the game appeals to. The key to their success is improving new player retention, either through making the game more newbie friendly or decreasing the 'difficulty'/complexity, while at the same time not alienating their existing playerbase by driving down the complexity and systems that drew them in the first place. I would say this balancing act isn't as simple as you think it is. You're welcome for the maths lessons and reading comprehension lessons. Next time, maybe you'll be able to understand what you're looking at when you look at a graph. I do, however, have a question for you. Given your earlier post about deleting Dust from your PS3 (referring to your post on 22nd November), why are you still posting rubbish maths on a video game forum when you' (1) are no longer playing the game; (2) do not have the game installed anyway; and (3) claim that the game is dying? Just wanted to understand the reasoning behind this kind of irrational behaviour, since I'm basing it off what I would do and my own line of reasoning, where if something no longer interests me (like many of the games out there), I couldn't care less what happens to it and would not bother posting anything, constructive or not, on said games' forums. Give me some help here, since I don't understand why someone who isn't interested in a game anymore would still continue making shitposts on the forums a WEEK** after the game has been deleted.
dustwaffle Xer Cloud Consortium 699	Posted - 2013.11.29 07:49:00 - [128] - Quote Slick Saan wrote: It should also be noted that the stats here are REALLY generous. The stats only include new players of that ONE day... Not all week long. The numbers would be much worse if all 7 days in the week were counted. Free lesson on understanding numbers and what they mean 1 post above this.
BMSTUBBY 356	Posted - 2013.11.29 15:37:00 - [129] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: BMSTUBBY wrote: Hey Iron Wolf Saber WTH? Where are the tens of thousands of DUST Players? It is a major US holiday with millions of kids and adults home today. Heck kids have been home since yesterday. These are the numbers that this game gets: Currently online: 2,506 Max (24h): 4,062 (2013-11-27 22:53:00) 85 million PS3's world wide. hey millions of Steam users, only 500 bother playing star conflict http://steamcharts.com/app/212070 1k play black light retribution a game lauded to be much better than Dust 514. http://steamcharts.com/app/209870 6k for planetside 2 http://steamcharts.com/app/218230 Number of Steam Users 65 million with about a 10% logged in base of about 5 million at a time. What does this mean? Quite a few folks didn't buy a ps3 for a singular game. Hummm, I do not recall referencing any of the above rubbish in my post but okay. Hey if comparing this games playerbase numbers to steams gets you past the fact that this MMO FPS is below meh average then more power to you. Dusters - MMO WhenGäó ? CCP - MMO SoonGäó .
KGB Sleep Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 446	Posted - 2013.11.29 15:48:00 - [130] - Quote Let this ******* stupid thread die already. "Because beer, that's why."

Slick Saan FotM 514 0	Posted - 2013.11.29 16:20:00 - [131] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: Therefore, even if you have 800 new characters created in a day, you would probably only see a bump of an additional 20-30 players on at a given time. The point is, with 800 or so new players a DAY for a week, in one weeks time you should at least see the active players in a given day (the weekly peak) increase by 30-20, but we see that it decreases most weeks. dustwaffle wrote: You're welcome for the maths lessons and reading comprehension lessons. Next time, maybe you'll be able to understand what you're looking at when you look at a graph. Using the word "maths" makes me question your credibility on this subject. dustwaffle wrote: I do, however, have a question for you. Given your earlier post about deleting Dust from your PS3 (referring to your post on 22nd November), why are you still posting rubbish maths on a video game forum when you' (1) are no longer playing the game; (2) do not have the game installed anyway; and (3) claim that the game is dying? Because the game was good once. My favorite in fact, even with all the bugs. Then they started showing sloppy development habits (coding hacks and then forgetting to remove the hacks once they fix the real issues) and just like that, 1.6 HD fixes meant if I wanted to stay on the top of the charts I'd have to proto. dustwaffle wrote: Give me some help here, since I don't understand why someone who isn't interested in a game anymore would still continue making shitposts on the forums a WEEK after the game has been deleted. Plain and simple. If CCP ever comes out with a fix to this **** TTK issue, I would be the first to re-download and start up again. My posts are a pissed way of saying, "CCP get your ** together!" So that we can reclaim maybe just SOME of the people who have left for the same reasons. I deleted it because I was sick of getting frustrated at getting killed just for being seen, even though I was still top three spots on the team. But I am hopeful that CCP will at some point realize how frustrating they've made their game and that they are in fact losing players over it. People who don't care, don't hate.
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Public Disorder. 512	Posted - 2013.11.29 17:04:00 - [132] - Quote Avallo Kantor wrote: There was a really well done post that was made a few months ago, I suggest you reread it (don't necro it though) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=112030 Basically the sentiment and research is still much the same: Among Free to play Games concurrent logged in users are not as high as one expects, and the total player base isn't determined just by the "highest concurrent players" count that so many people are using from Eve Offline. Post #91 in that thread is a perfect example and explanation of the flaws in the statistical logic of the post.
Admonishment The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo 31	Posted - 2013.11.29 18:32:00 - [133] - Quote Honestly I see a lot of potential in this game, people bad mouth it because its not like C.O.D. and you cant run around instantly no scope 360 head shot people at whim with your pink camouflage rifle. Part of the problem with the newer generation of gamers is that game gave them the idea they were good because the game did most of the work for them. They go to something else and they aren't "good" anymore and complain. They want every other game to be exactly like that and for some reason think every game should be influenced from it lol. My first shooters were Wolfenstine and Blake Stone on floppy disc. If some of the new gamers tried to play those games they wouldn't make it past the first level. No hand holding at all. Pretty sure C.O.D. wasn't the first shooter that came along. I came to this game because some of it reminds me of M.A.G. and I ended up coming over to this and liked it. Even with the bugs I still play because its fun when you get into a good even fight that can go either way. As long as the patches keep coming and issues keep being fixed I will continue to keep playing. Hopefully eventually will see this game again on PS4. Patiently waiting for new scout suits, shotguns, and new melee sidearms lol. Level 5 Proficiency in Tupperware handling.
mollerz Minja Scouts 1030	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:25:00 - [134] - Quote Slick Saan wrote: People who don't care, don't hate. I took your like cherry. We are forever connected. #shittycoding
Solitar Greywatch D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 0	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:29:00 - [135] - Quote People say this game is dying but when I log into the tranquility server it usually has over 20,000 players online?
A'Real Fury D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 447	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:39:00 - [136] - Quote Solitar Greywatch wrote: People say this game is dying but when I log into the tranquility server it usually has over 20,000 players online? Sorry Solitar what you are seeing is a combination of Eve Online players and Dust 514. Dust on average makes up less than 4000 players at peak times with a general roof at 4500 approx on weekends etc.
Solitar Greywatch D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 0	Posted - 2013.11.29 19:52:00 - [137] - Quote Thanks for clearing the confusion
Sleepy Zan 0uter.Heaven Proficiency V. 2867	Posted - 2013.11.29 20:02:00 - [138] - Quote Game is still bleeding out, hopefully the 1.7 Band-Aid will help it out. "Burn down their families and rape their homes!"
Solitar Greywatch D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 0	Posted - 2013.11.29 20:07:00 - [139] - Quote I heard some D.A.R.K. L.E.G.I.O.N. soldiers talking about 1.7 and they said it is going to be the biggest content drop in Dust 514. Just wanted to say if this is true.
Slick Saan FotM 514 1	Posted - 2013.11.29 21:29:00 - [140] - Quote Solitar Greywatch wrote: I heard some D.A.R.K. L.E.G.I.O.N. soldiers talking about 1.7 and they said it is going to be the biggest content drop in Dust 514. Just wanted to say if this is true. Honestly as much hate as I am spewing, I'm starting to wonder myself. I really am thinking (hoping, praying really) that this is true and that is why CCP is being so quiet about it. CCP you've held me onto this game since the beginning, I am giving you the benefit of the doubt... See you at 1.7 1.6 == fail

BMSTUBBY 357	Posted - 2013.11.30 17:27:00 - [141] - Quote KGB Sleep wrote: Let this ******* stupid thread die already. Never! I want to keep reminding people how much of a troll this CPM is. CCP will never lock or ban their little monkey on a string though. Dusters - MMO WhenGäó ? CCP - MMO SoonGäó .
mollerz Minja Scouts 1066	Posted - 2013.11.30 18:52:00 - [142] - Quote I've resisted posting on this thread, but hey may as well. IWS, your analysis is somewhat interesting, but you really didn't read the next gen console situation very well. The PS4, once it really becomes widely available with that right game, Dust will plummet. An incomplete last gen FPS with horrible mechanics and only balanced to one role out of four that requires a half year grind is doomed in any scenario. Dust 514 or any other game. You shouldn't be so happy if you really like Dust. IWS isn't the worst CPM, That Jenza lady is. She needs to go home. I would never vote for IWS to be on CPM1, but I might for CPM2. Something tells me he desperately needs to be on the CPM, and losing that spot will help him grow enough to ditch all the bullshit and just shine with the positives he does bring in his bid for reelection on the CPM2. Howse about them apples for an analysis, IWS? #shittycoding
SoTarian PoParrazi Shining Flame Amarr Empire 379	Posted - 2013.11.30 18:53:00 - [143] - Quote Everyones waiting to see is PS2 is going to flop or not. If it does - a wave of us will probably return to Dust514 as BF4 and CoD:G are nothing special. Dust has that special flavor that's turned every FPS lame for me. n+ÅS¦¦Gùò GÇ+GÇ+ GùòS¦¦n++ - Let's make a contract!
Slick Saan FotM 514 1	Posted - 2013.12.02 17:29:00 - [144] - Quote BMSTUBBY wrote: KGB Sleep wrote: Let this ***** stupid thread die already. Never! I want to keep reminding people how much of a troll this CPM is. CCP will never lock or ban their little monkey on a string though. This! I've already reported this thread as a troll thread and any other IWS troll posts as well. But alas, we all know this to be true... BMSTUBBY wrote:** CCP will never lock or ban their little monkey on a string though.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10958	Posted - 2013.12.02 19:58:00 - [145] - Quote Slick Saan wrote: BMSTUBBY wrote: KGB Sleep wrote: Let this ***** stupid thread die already. Never! I want to keep reminding people how much of a troll this CPM is. CCP will never lock or ban their little monkey on a string though. This! I've already reported this thread as a troll thread and any other IWS troll posts as well. But alas, we all know this to be true... BMSTUBBY wrote:** CCP will never lock or ban their little monkey on a string though. I want you from this point forward report every thread that decides "hey let's look at dust population chart and let's widely speculate its dying" then. Also I highly suggest looking up trolling and what generally happens in a successful troll. Generally I am a total failure of a troll to based on that fact alone. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Electronics =// Unlocked
DUST 514 Player 12345678914 Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic 571	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:13:00 - [146] - Quote Thread will haunt OP forever. You have a lot to answer for.
Sentient Archon 1353	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:16:00 - [147] - Quote DUST 514 Player 12345678914 wrote: Thread will haunt OP forever. Nah! IWS is just gonna go home and hug his Caldari Assault plushie in a fetal position and cry himself to sleep saying;- "It's gonna be alright! It's gonna!" The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10958	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:16:00 - [148] - Quote DUST 514 Player 12345678914 wrote: Thread will haunt OP forever. I don't think so. There are more noteworthy threads of my failure yet the community can't seem to stay focused enough to ostrasize me on the more critical things I have said or done wrong. Most of those are locked now due to timeout. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Electronics =// Unlocked
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10958	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:17:00 - [149] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: DUST 514 Player 12345678914 wrote: Thread will haunt OP forever. Nah! IWS is just gonna go home and hug his Caldari Assault plushie in a fetal position and cry himself to sleep saying;- "It's gonna be alright! It's gonna!" Who told you about that!?!???? CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Electronics =// Unlocked
Sentient Archon 1353	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:18:00 - [150] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: my failure(s) Fixed for you! The only troll to successfully troll CCP.

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10958	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:21:00 - [151] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: my failure(s) Fixed for you! Failure was subjectively a plural thing already like building materials are because the plural-ification of the content Threads. Threads of Failures sounds nearly as horribly as Spools of Twines CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Electronics =// Unlocked
Sentient Archon 1353	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:23:00 - [152] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Sentient Archon wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: my failure(s) Fixed for you! Failure was subjectively a plural thing already like building materials are because the plural-ification of the content Threads. Threads of Failures sounds nearly as horribly as Spools of Twines Fixed again for you. You can use that site for your grammatical failures next time ! The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
Slick Saan FotM 514 5	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:27:00 - [153] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Failure was subjectively a plural thing already like building materials are because the plural-ification of the content Threads. As in: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: My life of failure
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10959	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:28:00 - [154] - Quote Slick Saan wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Failure was subjectively a plural thing already like building materials are because the plural-ification of the content Threads. As in: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: My life of failure You sir would have to know that perfection of any lifeform is a fallacy. All are prone to failure, there are those who dwell on it and those just plow through and move on. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Electronics =// Unlocked
Slick Saan FotM 514 5	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:30:00 - [155] - Quote Slick Saan wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Failure was subjectively a plural thing already like building materials are because the plural-ification of the content Threads. As in: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: My life of failure You know though, despite his trolliness nature, at a certain point you kind of have to feel bad for the guy. I'm gonna take it easier on him from here on out.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10959	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:31:00 - [156] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Sentient Archon wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: my failure(s) Fixed for you! Failure was subjectively a plural thing already like building materials are because the plural-ification of the content Threads. Threads of Failures sounds nearly as horribly as Spools of Twines Fixed again for you. You can use that site for your grammatical failures next time ! Bricks Walls CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Electronics =// Unlocked
Sentient Archon 1353	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:34:00 - [157] - Quote Slick Saan wrote: You know though, despite his trolliness nature, at a certain point you kind of have to feel bad for the guy. I'm gonna take it easier on him from here on out. Feeling bad for IWS is like feeling bad for that bum on the street who you give $20 only to see him 5 minutes later at your weed dealer buying some good ole kush ! (.... wonders to himself if this is worthy of a 1 year or permaban !) The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
Sentient Archon 1353	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:35:00 - [158] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: IWS Brains = Bricks Walls Fixed again for you ! The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
Terra Thesis HDYLTA Defiant Legacy 368	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:37:00 - [159] - Quote according to the forums, this game has been "dying" since beta. in regards to this i believe Confucius once said, "haters gonna hate." see you fellas next month. HDYLTA - Freedom Delivered
Sentient Archon 1353	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:39:00 - [160] - Quote Terra Thesis wrote: according to the forums, this game has been "dying" since beta. in regards to this i believe Confucius once said, "haters gonna hate." see you fellas next month. Welp when you go from 9000 + active players to less than 3000 active players I wouldnt know what to call it. The only troll to successfully troll CCP.

Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10961	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:43:00 - [161] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: Terra Thesis wrote: according to the forums, this game has been "dying" since beta. in regards to this i believe Confucius once said, "haters gonna hate." see you fellas next month. Welp when you go from 9000 + active players to less than 3000 active players I wouldnt know what to call it. We never had 9k players though that was an api error. Similar to PS2 having 2 million in a spike. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Electronics =// Unlocked
Kane Fyea 2300	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:45:00 - [162] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: Terra Thesis wrote: according to the forums, this game has been "dying" since beta. in regards to this i believe Confucius once said, "haters gonna hate." see you fellas next month. Welp when you go from 9000 + active players to less than 3000 active players I wouldnt know what to call it. The 9000 players was from Uprising launch weekend. The player counts have been pretty much the same since chromosome.
BMSTUBBY 369	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:46:00 - [163] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: Terra Thesis wrote: according to the forums, this game has been "dying" since beta. in regards to this i believe Confucius once said, "haters gonna hate." see you fellas next month. Welp when you go from 9000 + active players to less than 3000 active players I wouldnt know what to call it. Incoming IWS referencing some random Steam game numbers and comparing them to DUST. Dusters - MMO WhenGäó ? CCP - MMO SoonGäó .
Sentient Archon 1353	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:47:00 - [164] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: We never had 9k players though that was an api error. Similar to PS2 having 2 million in a spike. This is why you dont give IWS that $20... The kush is strong with him The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10961	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:47:00 - [165] - Quote Kane Fyea wrote: Sentient Archon wrote: Terra Thesis wrote: according to the forums, this game has been "dying" since beta. in regards to this i believe Confucius once said, "haters gonna hate." see you fellas next month. Welp when you go from 9000 + active players to less than 3000 active players I wouldnt know what to call it. The 9000 players was from Uprising launch weekend. The player counts have been pretty much the same since chromosome. Scrolling back the player report was 6.4k. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Electronics =// Unlocked
Sentient Archon 1353	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:54:00 - [166] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Unscientific numbers are unscientific. Just like 80 million PS3s are out there ! They are out there, but no ones playing Dust on them Oooooooooo! This is a good one.,. Some of them might actually be collecting Dust The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 10961	Posted - 2013.12.02 20:56:00 - [167] - Quote Sentient Archon wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Unscientific numbers are unscientific. Just like 80 million PS3s are out there ! They are out there, but no ones playing Dust on them See even more fail conclusions on the prospect on the belief that everyone bought a ps3 for dust 514 or shooter games or the sorts. I bought mine because it was a cheap blu ray player at the time. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Electronics =// Unlocked
Sentient Archon 1353	Posted - 2013.12.02 21:00:00 - [168] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: i bought mine because it was a cheap blu ray player at the time. Yep. Dust the so called Revolutionary Cross platform game is played on a system thats supposed to be a cheap blu ray player alternative... Well said IWS! Well said! Shows how much quality and potential it has! The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
SILENTSAM 69 SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION 608	Posted - 2013.12.02 21:27:00 - [169] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: when we are able to buy PS4s (when there is stock) and when guys actually get them with a decent title, then we'll see how many continue to unplug the ps4 just to log onto dust. The ultimate truth behind all doomsayers. They are constantly pushing back the deadline and trust their opinions stronger every time it gets pushed back.
Michael Cratar Fenrir's Wolves Zero-Day 268	Posted - 2013.12.02 21:41:00 - [170] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. Log back in to the forums to see this. I love you Iron wolf. <3 As much as I bash on this game, I would love to see it succeed. The question is not if I can or can not, but who is going to stop me? Beta Vet

Slick Saan FotM 514 5	Posted - 2013.12.03 03:28:00 - [171] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Unscientific numbers are unscientific. I disagree.
dustwaffle Xer Cloud Consortium 707	Posted - 2013.12.03 04:05:00 - [172] - Quote Slick Saan wrote: The point is, with 800 or so new players a DAY for a week, in one weeks time you should at least see the active players in a given day (the weekly peak) increase by 30-20, but we see that it decreases most weeks. You can hover you mouse over the little spikes in the graphs to see the player counts. Quote: Using the word "maths" makes me question your credibility on this subject. "Maths", as in a commonly used abbreviation of the word "mathematics", which encompasses various disciplines (?) such as, for example, statistics. So sue me, I only studied 'maths' up to A-levels. Quote: Because the game was good once. My favorite in fact, even with all the bugs. Then they started showing sloppy development habits (coding hacks and then forgetting to remove the hacks once they fix the real issues) and just like that, 1.6 HD fixes meant if I wanted to stay on the top of the charts I'd have to proto. So you are complaining about TTK and protostomping at the same time? Quote: Plain and simple. If CCP ever comes out with a fix to this **** TTK issue, I would be the first to re-download and start up again. My posts are a pissed way of saying, "CCP get your ** together!" So that we can reclaim maybe just SOME of the people who have left for the same reasons. I deleted it because I was sick of getting frustrated at getting killed just for being seen, even though I was still top three spots on the team. But I am hopeful that CCP will at some point realize how frustrating they've made their game and that they are in fact losing players over it. People who don't care, don't hate. So you deleted the game from your PS3 in a fit of rage, even though in likelihood you will one day re-download the game if/when it gets better and the issues get fixed? Get a grip on emotions maybe? I like how you avoided the rest of my post where you couldn't come up with an argument for. Good job.
Sentient Archon 1355	Posted - 2013.12.03 13:30:00 - [173] - Quote dustwaffle wrote: "Maths", as in a commonly used abbreviation of the word "mathematics", which encompasses various disciplines (?) such as, for example, statistics. So sue me, I only studied 'maths' up to A-levels. Sorry Dude! the plural for Mathematics or Math is still Mathematics or Math ... (note the s in the end). For someone that studied A-Level 'maths' I am calling you out on this. Hop on the BS wagon LOL. Looks like you and IWS went to the same phail grammar school. The only troll to successfully troll CCP.
The Attorney General ZionTCD 1488	Posted - 2013.12.03 13:59:00 - [174] - Quote What is this? Americans not understanding the idiosyncasies of another English speaking country? I am taken aback. Mr. Hybrid Vayu.
NomaDz 2K DUTY FR33 87	Posted - 2013.12.03 17:39:00 - [175] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: http://eve-offline.net/?server=dust I mean seriously with xbone launch and ps4 launch and a host of games with them to boot and you guys turn around and give us our month's high? What is wrong with you doomsayers? I mean cmon we're beating some numbers back from june for crying out loud. Your average High is around 2600-2800 Players which to be honest is fairly poor for a FREE TO PLAY Online game on the PS3, especially considering the amount of PS3s on the market. I personally have the PS4 and BF4, it's a GREAT CONSOLE, I can FINALLY Call Battlefield 4 a BATTLEFIELD game on console , especially considering that on the PS4 it runs at 60fps 900p (whereas the XBone can ONLY HANDLE 720p and yes there is a DRAMATIC Difference)and with 64 PLAYERS, Now IMAGINE - What if DUST 514 were to come to the PS4. I'm sure we could have 64 players on the PS4 version of DUST 514 and even make it Cross Playstation with the PS3, Why do I think this? Cause we already have DC Universe on the PS4 and it ports your characters directly from the PS3 to the PS4 so you don't have to start all over again from scratch (Futhermore this is also being done with PLANETSIDE 2 on the PS4 - U can port over your character from PC to the PS4), which is another GREAT idea if cross platform isn't possible for CCP, as in PS3 and PS4 together. It would be not only nice BUT GREAT to see DUST 514 on the PS4 and have 64 or even 128 Players and being capable of playing smaller player based game modes alongside PS3 DUST 514 players (PS4 and PS3 play together as 32 players which the PS3 appears to support fine), just think of the success rate of doing such a thing CCP! MAG got into the Guiness Book of Records for the Amount of players and DUST would for a decent Cross Platform if CCP are capable of doing it, which to be honest i have serious doubts due to the constant "SooN TM". U need Adverts on TV and the Net like U did with EVE and seriously consider a PS4 move, as in consider making it on the PS4 with a Cross gaming from PS3 to PS4. NB CCP EVERY1 I know with a PS4 downloaded EVERY FREE TO PLAY and PS+ Game there was on the PS4 Store. Which means even DUST is bound to have more players just by making it happen on the PS4. Then again I hear you're LAZER FOCUSED... Get real man seriously...


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